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Meeting the love of your life in a bar is no longer the only option. Every month, 61 million people log on to try online dating. So why is Dr. Phil's first guest, Deb, having such a hard time? She says she's a dating disaster and can't figure out why she only gets losers in her inbox. Some online dating experts take a look at her profile to see what she's doing wrong. Then, Jeanne hasn't been on a date in over 20 years and says she's scared to death to try online dating. Dr. Phil goes over some cyber safety tips from his book, Love Smart. Plus, a unique first date that doesn’t include dinner and drinks ... but a metal bar and a harness! Join the discussion.

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July 14, 2006, 8:54 am PDT

07/13 Online Dating

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You know what is odd Jim....earlier you agreed that women are out there looking for men that "don't exist"...yet here you are, middle aged, looking for women that don't exist...
You most certainly know how to put words into somebody's mouth and make assumptions that are not even remotely true.  Are you hiding something?
 
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July 14, 2006, 9:03 am PDT

You cannot keep someone you never had

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 I met this guy on line about 7 months ago. We clicked right away, we use to chat all the time and now I am lucky if its once a month. He claims it due to his job or Business. We told each other a little bit about each others past and what we wanted in our lives today. But I have to wonder what he truly wants on line. Here is part of a long story.....he says he is divorce and raised his son on his own, he is a business owner over by the east coast. I know what he says is his full name. He has called me a couple of times but has his number blocked. He has my name and phone numbers to call whenever he would like. He keeps telling me he wants to meet me and will fly me out soon. But that never happens. He comes on line once every month now to chat with me and of coarse he think we should share intimate things on line. But I ask is that all you want, he replies no, there is way more to it then that. But if you care and love someone you will want to share the intimate things on line. My question is... Is he hiding something from me or lying about who he truly is? He gives me a name that if you look it up, you will find hundreds of them, he wont give me a phone number to call him. He told me the cities in which he lives and has his business. But I have to wonder if that is correct too now.  He says he is confused but wont tell me on what. He says we will go by his way and then once we meet I will now everything about him and we will go by my ways. He tells me things like, we will be together soon, he sees me in his future, that he wants to take this to another level, etc   I want this to be a two way street and feel comfortable with this whole on line dating. I don't want to give up on him cause for what I do know he is or seems to be what I am looking for. I think he is a very private person and being cautious on line. But how do I know that ? The thing is I gave him a lot of information about me, my past, present and future , and I really don't know a lot about him. Granted we are like 1500 miles apart. How do I get this guys to be more open with me or know that he is being honest and truthful with me? I just have this feeling he is lying to me or hiding something. I have asked many of times over about issues in his life and he will tell me a little bit but tries to get me on another topic. I email him all the time don't get responses back , Offline IM's, etc. Am I trying to hard to keep him? I just don't want to give up on some if he is telling me the truth and just is nervous or confused with the on line dating stuff. Help me please understand what might be happening here.

Wondering Why

First of all, stop beating yourself up and try to put things into perspective.  You *communicated* with this guy - and that is it.  Many people, especially those who are new to online dating, start filling in emotional blank spaces with what they want the relationship to be, rather than what the relationship really is.  During the seven months, there was never the urgency or immediate desire for him meet  you face to face - that is a big old red flag.  I know there is a distance involved, but if the distance is too great to warrant a real meeting, what is the point?  If meeting is so challenging and his time such a premium,  how could you possibly spend enough time together to establish a real relationship?  

   

I am not saying that long-distance can't work - BUT - you have to meet - real life - to see if things connect.    

   

You say your communication has now dissolved into a once a month chat - and he wants it to be "intimate" - which I'm guessing is your way of saying he wants cyber sex - sex chat.  You really have answered your own question on if that is all he want - because - that is all he is giving you.    

   

Please don't take this personally, or as an insult, but by not wanting to get together with you, not providing any firm information, blocking his phone numbers and such limited contact - he *IS* saying that is all he wants.  You aren't getting anything except frustrated, discouraged and disappointed.  Remember, actions DO speak louder than words and if all you are getting is down-the-road promises - that isn't enough.  

   

To me - what you are doing IS NOT online dating.  Online dates go through steps, phases.  First, is the email connection, which can very quickly move to chatting on the phone.   Phone contact should move with ease into a casual meeting, which if the circumstances are right, can progress into real dating - or not.  My point is you cannot hope and wish for the situation to be what you want, without having a real connection.  

   

I know you may want to believe that "he is or seems to be what I am looking for" but you simply do not have enough information to make that call.  My thoughs are you have wasted enough time priming this fellows ego and you should move on.  And you certainly shouldn't be there for the once monthly jolly-talk on the phone or pc.  More than likely, he has a full life - whether he is involved, married or just being a single guy - you deserve someone who wants to have a real life connection and not waste anymore time providing free wacking material.  

 
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July 14, 2006, 9:14 am PDT

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 I met this guy on line about 7 months ago. We clicked right away, we use to chat all the time and now I am lucky if its once a month. He claims it due to his job or Business. We told each other a little bit about each others past and what we wanted in our lives today. But I have to wonder what he truly wants on line. Here is part of a long story.....he says he is divorce and raised his son on his own, he is a business owner over by the east coast. I know what he says is his full name. He has called me a couple of times but has his number blocked. He has my name and phone numbers to call whenever he would like. He keeps telling me he wants to meet me and will fly me out soon. But that never happens. He comes on line once every month now to chat with me and of coarse he think we should share intimate things on line. But I ask is that all you want, he replies no, there is way more to it then that. But if you care and love someone you will want to share the intimate things on line. My question is... Is he hiding something from me or lying about who he truly is? He gives me a name that if you look it up, you will find hundreds of them, he wont give me a phone number to call him. He told me the cities in which he lives and has his business. But I have to wonder if that is correct too now.  He says he is confused but wont tell me on what. He says we will go by his way and then once we meet I will now everything about him and we will go by my ways. He tells me things like, we will be together soon, he sees me in his future, that he wants to take this to another level, etc   I want this to be a two way street and feel comfortable with this whole on line dating. I don't want to give up on him cause for what I do know he is or seems to be what I am looking for. I think he is a very private person and being cautious on line. But how do I know that ? The thing is I gave him a lot of information about me, my past, present and future , and I really don't know a lot about him. Granted we are like 1500 miles apart. How do I get this guys to be more open with me or know that he is being honest and truthful with me? I just have this feeling he is lying to me or hiding something. I have asked many of times over about issues in his life and he will tell me a little bit but tries to get me on another topic. I email him all the time don't get responses back , Offline IM's, etc. Am I trying to hard to keep him? I just don't want to give up on some if he is telling me the truth and just is nervous or confused with the on line dating stuff. Help me please understand what might be happening here.

Wondering Why
Suppose this exact scenario was happening to your best friend.  What advice would you give her?
 
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July 14, 2006, 9:17 am PDT

I think ONLINE DATING isn't the correct term

I prefer to think of it as "online introductions."  What we really want is to meet someone who we connect with - on some fun, basic, level and have some level of mutual attraction.  I think lots of people put too much pressure on trying to find the love of their life, or worse soul-mate  (talk about pressure, huh??)    

   

I like the idea that things don't have to work out - that meetings can be fun in themselves.  I think that getting TOO physical -  too soon -  can throw a monkey wrench into a good introduction that down the road, may have developed in to a romance.  I think there is nothing romantic about those who proclaim themselves - from the word go - as a hopeless romantic.  I think  real romance takes time.  

   

But hey, that's just me - and I'm still single, but happy and having fun at what I do.  Me thinks I'm going to take some new snaps and write a new profile and give the whole online intro deal one more whirl.  Besides, summer is now official half over - what can it hurt?  

 

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July 14, 2006, 9:21 am PDT

Amen!

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First of all, stop beating yourself up and try to put things into perspective.  You *communicated* with this guy - and that is it.  Many people, especially those who are new to online dating, start filling in emotional blank spaces with what they want the relationship to be, rather than what the relationship really is.  During the seven months, there was never the urgency or immediate desire for him meet  you face to face - that is a big old red flag.  I know there is a distance involved, but if the distance is too great to warrant a real meeting, what is the point?  If meeting is so challenging and his time such a premium,  how could you possibly spend enough time together to establish a real relationship?  

   

I am not saying that long-distance can't work - BUT - you have to meet - real life - to see if things connect.    

   

You say your communication has now dissolved into a once a month chat - and he wants it to be "intimate" - which I'm guessing is your way of saying he wants cyber sex - sex chat.  You really have answered your own question on if that is all he want - because - that is all he is giving you.    

   

Please don't take this personally, or as an insult, but by not wanting to get together with you, not providing any firm information, blocking his phone numbers and such limited contact - he *IS* saying that is all he wants.  You aren't getting anything except frustrated, discouraged and disappointed.  Remember, actions DO speak louder than words and if all you are getting is down-the-road promises - that isn't enough.  

   

To me - what you are doing IS NOT online dating.  Online dates go through steps, phases.  First, is the email connection, which can very quickly move to chatting on the phone.   Phone contact should move with ease into a casual meeting, which if the circumstances are right, can progress into real dating - or not.  My point is you cannot hope and wish for the situation to be what you want, without having a real connection.  

   

I know you may want to believe that "he is or seems to be what I am looking for" but you simply do not have enough information to make that call.  My thoughs are you have wasted enough time priming this fellows ego and you should move on.  And you certainly shouldn't be there for the once monthly jolly-talk on the phone or pc.  More than likely, he has a full life - whether he is involved, married or just being a single guy - you deserve someone who wants to have a real life connection and not waste anymore time providing free wacking material.  

I agree with all your points.  Classic case of "he's just not that into her."  I second your advice that she should move on.
 
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July 14, 2006, 9:31 am PDT

Tell us like it is - Jim

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You most certainly know how to put words into somebody's mouth and make assumptions that are not even remotely true.  Are you hiding something?

Jim - you are one of the FEW men who are frequenting this message board about online dating.   Why don't you use this opportunity to tell us single gals just what it is that men of your age bracket want.  You have a great opportunity to tell us like it is - although I'm not saying we are going to take your word as gospel,  it would be interesting to sneak a peak into what makes you tick.   

 

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July 14, 2006, 9:34 am PDT

Excellent advice, thanks.

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If one's words are disproportionate to their actions that's a HUGE clue!!   

  

Ask a bunch of questions to hypothetical situations, do a background check and take your time. 

  

 

 

 

There's no rush.....here's an example.... 

 

 

 

I met a super nice guy on match.com.  We talked online, emailed and he called me every day.  About a month into all of this, I found out he was married.  Not legally separated, but still living-with-his-wife-married.  In hindsight, I look back and things make sense.  He only called me while he was on his way home from work.  That's the only time we could talk over the phone.   

 

 

 

The need to digress..... 

 

 

 

I would highly recommend avoiding the "currently separated" ones.  Some are still carrying a torch for their ex, some haven't had time to get over past hurts and carry way too much baggage and you could be a rebound to them.   

 

 

 

Anyway, take your time.  This is your life we're talking about.....the person you could end up with.  Listen when they speak. 

 

  

Added advice - When a guy goes on & on about his ex & still has a "charge" over it, it's a clue he's not over her.  I learned that the hard way too, when I heard all about how Lisa is making all the same mistakes now with her new husband, and Lisa would call him up for hours to complain about the new husband.  And my boyfriend would point out how he treated her better than all the other guys in her life.  BIG CLUE.    

   

Non-surprise ending:  Lisa's new husband dumped her & she ran back to her ex husband (my then boyfriend) ending my relationship with him.  

 
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July 14, 2006, 9:54 am PDT

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Added advice - When a guy goes on & on about his ex & still has a "charge" over it, it's a clue he's not over her.  I learned that the hard way too, when I heard all about how Lisa is making all the same mistakes now with her new husband, and Lisa would call him up for hours to complain about the new husband.  And my boyfriend would point out how he treated her better than all the other guys in her life.  BIG CLUE.    

   

Non-surprise ending:  Lisa's new husband dumped her & she ran back to her ex husband (my then boyfriend) ending my relationship with him.  

I've met the man who went on and on about his soon-to-be-ex.  In fact, I think that's all he ever talked about.   

  

Ummmm......who is Lisa? 

 
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July 14, 2006, 10:10 am PDT

online dating works!!!!

I met this guy on match.com about 11 months ago. He is a wonderful guy. Couldn't ask for a better man.  

 I did run into alot of weirdos out their. Usually it shows in their emails, or if not, it shows up when you meet for the first time. It took awhile before I met the man I'm dating now.  

We are taking it very slow, but needless to say our relationship is working. (we only see eachother on the weekends, and we only talk on the phone once a week).  And yes we live in the same city.  

Girls you just need to know what to look for, plus know the warning signs, and the red flags. Not all guys are bums. Plus it helps if your profile is up beat and positive, not only that but short and sweet, and to the point, that will lur them in. Men love mystery in a woman, so be mystrious.  Most of all post a picture, you'll get 50% more responses than if you don't. 

 

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July 14, 2006, 10:14 am PDT

Lisa was his the name of his ex.

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I've met the man who went on and on about his soon-to-be-ex.  In fact, I think that's all he ever talked about.   

  

Ummmm......who is Lisa? 

Thinking back to first dates with other guys:  One guy went on & on about how his wife became a lesbian & left him to live with her girlfriend, then tried to squeeze every penny out of him him in their divorce with the girlfriend egging her on.  Another guy went on & on about his ex-wife & her new boyfriend & how she spent so much money on getting her hair frosted & how the new husband is a bad influence on the kids & how she's trying to squeeze every penny out of him with the new boyfriend cheering her on...  

   

When the go on & on about their ex's on the first date, it has never worked out for me.  It's clear they're still not over these people or at least are putting a lot of energy into feuding with them.  

 
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