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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 01:17:37 pm
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Do you prefer an alternative to traditional schooling? Share tips, advice, support, and chat with others that homeschool their children.

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November 23, 2006, 1:02 pm PST

the way I see it...

Many people are skeptical of things they don't entirely understand.

The idea that some people step outside the unquestioned and unchallenged traditions
 of a culture is a bit of a jolt for some people.  It simply never occured to them that people can thrive and succeed in their own chosen path by doing it their own way.  It's so steeped into society that it's a default that after one's 5th birthday parents are to start enrolling and selecting school.  It's almost taboo in our society to question things, and to do things differently from "the Joneses".

But for us, all the skepticism around us, doesn't bother us.  We just carry on.  What someone thinks really has no influence on our firm decision to carry on our chosen path.



 
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November 23, 2006, 7:15 pm PST

Loved this post!

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Many people are skeptical of things they don't entirely understand.

The idea that some people step outside the unquestioned and unchallenged traditions
 of a culture is a bit of a jolt for some people.  It simply never occured to them that people can thrive and succeed in their own chosen path by doing it their own way.  It's so steeped into society that it's a default that after one's 5th birthday parents are to start enrolling and selecting school.  It's almost taboo in our society to question things, and to do things differently from "the Joneses".

But for us, all the skepticism around us, doesn't bother us.  We just carry on.  What someone thinks really has no influence on our firm decision to carry on our chosen path.



Your post is exactly how I feel, among many other feelings. Well said!

Sherri

 
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November 23, 2006, 7:18 pm PST

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" I know they interact with other kids in other situations and all but they do not have the same social skills as other kids. "

Which "other kids"?  Do you mean the kids who, after my own child was thriving happily in an accepting enviroment and had lots of friends outside of school, told my daughter she was ugly, stupid, a dog, and her clothes were weird?  The ones who told her with their fists curled toward her, "run fast you stupid b***h" at the age of 5?  She came home from school on her first day and that was the very first time in her life in which she had ever been spoken to in such a disrespectful, mean, and rude manner. Perhaps I should have prepared her a bit better by insulting her and slapping her around a bit?

If that is the behaviour and social skills one's child is supposed to emulate or is supposed to "build character" then no thank you.  I naively assumed that times would have changed since I went to school.  Whoda thunk it was changed, but not better? :/


Another great post! I agree 100%.

Sherri

 
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November 24, 2006, 6:11 am PST

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Your post is exactly how I feel, among many other feelings. Well said!

Sherri

Thank  you.  It's an interesting study in human thinking.  The notion that many people can achieve human goals through "unofficial" means bothers those who have gone through the offical routes to do so.  That is understandable. 

But the fact is, people learn (i.e. retain knowledgte and make it a core part of their own make-up) their own way and their own thing, whether they're in school or not.  At school, I know I ignored what I wasn't interested in and obsessively pursued what I was, as did my husband, who was what they call a "good student".

Regardless of what other people try to drum into my head, what's retained is ultimately, what my drive tells me to retain.  Even if I pass a test in a subject with flying colors, the option is entirely my own as to whether it's retained and used in my real life.  There are some laws of nature and biological drives that artificial forces simply cannot beat.

I mean, while I had teachers who I liked growing up, there are many hours of schooling that I wish I could climb into the DeLorean and have done something different.  I likely would have been the present "me" a lot sooner! :)


 
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November 24, 2006, 8:57 am PST

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Hello,

My name is Allison and Im new here. I am a mother of 2 boys ages 10 and 7. My oldest is in the 4th grade and my youngest is in 2nd grade. They both attend our local public school.

 

My 7 yr old has been having some behavior problems this year. It is my opinion that he is being negativly influenced by other children in his class.  My husband and I are seriously considering pulling him out of public school and homeschooling him.  My husband would be the one to actually do the teaching. He works for UPS overnight and is home during the day, whereas I work during the day.

 

Have any of you experienced such negative peer pressure that would cause your child to act out...not be themselves? We have been in contact with the teacher almost daily, and my son's behavior is spiraling steadily downward. He has now started lying to us and stealing  money from family members. And obviously his grades are not where they should be. He is too smart for this.

 

His classroom teacher is concerned about his behavior, but says that there are other kids who are worse than he is. My son is constantly getting into trouble. He has not had a "green light" day since September. He has not been tested for ADD/ADHD but he is controllable at home, so I dont think that is the case with him.

 

Ive just started researching what it would cost as far as cirrculum and am entirely overwhelmed by the options. How do you know which one is good and which isnt?

 

Any feedback or suggestions would be welcomed.

Allison

 

 

Hi Allison,
First off I would advise that if your child is tested for ADD/ADHD you do it through your  family doctor and NOT through the school.   Schools are notorious for  labeling kids  and medicating them. (that way teachers don't have to deal with them)  Make sure you and your husband are ready for the commitment before you make your final decision, and if you present a united front it can be done.  I homeschoooled my son as a single mom working midnights.  When I got remarried my husband became a great help.  One of the sites I used for help was www.homeschoolworld.com.   My son' s favorite site for math was Aplusmath.com.  If you google "homeschool" you will be amazed at what you find.  Good luck.
 
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November 24, 2006, 5:47 pm PST

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Well, there are a myriad of reasons...

First of all, I had wanted to homeschool, because I liked the idea of families staying together, since I found out I was pregnant with my first child.

When one is noticeably pregnant, seemingly one is free to receive well-wishing "advice" from strangers (wink).  One that stuck with me, was, "Better enjoy them while you can, because when they turn 5, you don't get much time with them, anymore, and they grow up so quickly!..."  It didn't stick with me then.  I just smiled and moved on.
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Time went on, I remarried and had more children.  I had my children in school for a time.  Then, while unpacking a box, I saw all the literature I had before about homeschooling, the pros and cons, "how to" do it, etc... and a flood of memories came back to me, including that kind "better enjoy them while you can" woman.  Reading those books re-awakened my dormant goals.  Also, there were other personal circumstances which seemed to fit.  So we made the decision 5 years ago, and haven't looked back.

I started questioning things that we take for granted.  Things such as the default of families not being together during "school hours".  We take that for granted.  We wake up, one or both parents head to work, and kids spend their best and most energetic hours with someone else.  When a parent is seen in public with their child during "school hours", the question is "Oh, do you have a day off school?".  It's perceived as odd or unusual,  that at certain hours of the day, children over a certain age are with their own parents, or with other children but not in a school.  The epiphany hit me like a ton of bricks.

I also felt retroactively gypped, given that as parents, we "get them" during the most physically exhausting times (for parents) of their lives, the diaper years, the chasing toddler years, the times when their physical abilities are not quite aligned with their sense of reason (grin).  Then, precisely at the age when they turn more "fun", and require no more babying, but still are young and relate-able, they're sent off to someone else!

So now we don't deal with that anymore.  Many people who don't understand homeschooling perceive homeschoolers as people who tend to isolate their children.  Well, for me the opposite is true. 

When I think about it, they were more isolated when they were in school.  They came home from school, and the first thing was, "Mom, can I go over and play at (name of friend's) house?".  Sometimes I would allow them but other times I'd resent that here they spent all day somewhere else, and STILL didn't get "time with their friends?" (And school is supposed to be this social Utopia).  When do we as parents get to see them? Bedtime? Supper time?  When it's time to nag them to finish their homework?.  Yeah, evenings (if I'm lucky) and weekends.  Gee, Thanks.

How can a parent be "so involved" when it's largely remotely?  Get in line while the teacher deals with the other parents who just want "5 seconds" of the teacher's time?  Write a note?  Don't teachers get a break off school hours for their lives or do they have to spend all their time after hours reading notes and responding to them?

Well, now that they are home, I'm more inclined to let them go visit friends, do other things and be gone for sleepovers, because my time with them is not ripped off.  We get quality time, interactive learning time, and the time I spend with them is not when they're tired from being in school all day, but when they're open and receptive.  So yeah, when you look at it that way, they're less "isolated".  They interact with not only me, but with a myriad of people through their lives.

Anyway, this post is already long, but yet it only covers a fraction of the reasons we homeschool.  But I thought the family thing is a big one, which is not often addressed.  More often it's the "socialization" and "university readiness", and I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

Hi.  I have two children, one is 4 and the other is 18 mos..  I have been giving very serious thought to homeschooling my children.. The town I live in apparently has a large number of homeschooled children.  I know there are networks in town but finding them is a different story.   I was wondering where you found the literature about it.  I tried to find things online but the amount of information is overwhelming.  My 4 year old is supposed to start Kindergarten in '07.  I'm in Indiana so the law does not require children to start until first grade.  I'm very concerned about putting him in school.  He could read his ABC's at 2 on top of knowing 1-10 by sight, knew his colors and shapes.  By the time he was 3 he could read words, now at 4 1/2  he can read whole books with large words like "professional" and such.  He can tell time, he knows tons of other things, too numerous to list.  I'm afraid that putting him in school will only hinder him.  He'll get bored and be disruptive then fall behind.  I need help to find the information before it gets too close to school time.  I also wonder how can you convince others that you are doing what is best for your child.  I'm not getting much support from my family.  I would appreciate any help you or anyone reading this can give me.

 
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November 24, 2006, 6:06 pm PST

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Our 3rd son and his wife began homeschooling when their oldest son was asked to tutor to worst student in school (we rented to his parents, we knew).  Kris tutored Jacob and Adam until they moved to northern Michigan, at which time they felt they should let the boys experience school again.  After two weeks the boys begged to be homeschooled again.  Kris said if she was going to teach them 4 hours of homework, she would just as soon do it in the morning.  Jacob graduated with an Associates degree at 18, and is now a senior at Western Michigan University in the Electrical Engineering program.  Adam is 17, and the youngest person at his college (Kuyper College) in Grand Rapids MI.  At 17 he is doing A's and B's with no problem.  Not only did the boys have a great teacher, they had excellent parents.  Far better than their father and I were.

 

Now, due to health reasons, the 4th son and his wife are beginning to homeschool their children, getting lots of help and advise from Kris.

 

Stacked up against the rest of the grandchildren, the homeschooled kids are head and shoulders above the rest.  They went to proms, etc., and relished their school years.  The oldest is even engaged to marry when he graduates in another year.

 

Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.  This time you were out in left field as far as my husband and I are concerned.  We usually agree with you, but this gave us a new side to you.   We are steady watchers.

 
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November 24, 2006, 8:10 pm PST

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Statically, homeschool children - being homeschool from elementary through twelfth grade are usually academically and socially sounder than that of tradtional schooling both private and public.  They tend to finish college and enter higher professional fields.  Obviously, homeschooling didn't affect their abilities to enter the "real world".  They have a great deal of confident and responsibility.  Most  homeschoolers don't have a problem with their social life.  There are so many homeschool groups and activities just for the homeschoolers.  Homeschooler have a very strong sense of family value. 

I don't agree with "Unschoolers".  Children need structure and proper guidance everyday.  There is definitely a difference between "Homeschoolers" and Unschoolers".  

We have homeschooled our children since 3 years old.  Their friends go to public school.  We hear stories after stories about what they go through.  My daughter has more confidence than her friend whose self-esteem has been lowered dramatically by kids on the bus and her teachers.  Socially, my  children have no problems making new friends when playing at the mall, at gymnastics, at the gym, or playground.  I don't have to worry about my children picking up bad language from school.  I know the kids in the public and private schools pick up slangs and bad language because I work with kids at church every Sunday.  I hear the way they talk and I have asked them, "Where did you hear that?"  The answer is usually from their friends at school.  I also know personally a friend who is a teacher whose philosophy is "anything goes".  There is not much control in the classrooms.  Teachers in most states are not allow to have much control in the classrooms.  

Why should the teachers be raising my kids?  That is our job as parents.  Do you realized that the teachers are not just teacher your children the curriculums.  They are teaching them their philosophies of life.  I am not against teachers, but these kids, they go from teacher to teacher all day long.  They come home and get maybe 1 hour with their parents because they have so much homework to do.  Talk about a social life, our kids have more social life than their friends in the public school. 

I am frustrated about the false information that is being spread about homeschoolers.  We are not sheltering our children from the world.  We are preparing them for the world.  Our children will be more ready for the "real world" when that time comes. 

Mother of 3 wonderful homeschooled children,
Jenny
 

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November 25, 2006, 8:36 am PST

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Hi.  I have two children, one is 4 and the other is 18 mos..  I have been giving very serious thought to homeschooling my children.. The town I live in apparently has a large number of homeschooled children.  I know there are networks in town but finding them is a different story.   I was wondering where you found the literature about it.  I tried to find things online but the amount of information is overwhelming.  My 4 year old is supposed to start Kindergarten in '07.  I'm in Indiana so the law does not require children to start until first grade.  I'm very concerned about putting him in school.  He could read his ABC's at 2 on top of knowing 1-10 by sight, knew his colors and shapes.  By the time he was 3 he could read words, now at 4 1/2  he can read whole books with large words like "professional" and such.  He can tell time, he knows tons of other things, too numerous to list.  I'm afraid that putting him in school will only hinder him.  He'll get bored and be disruptive then fall behind.  I need help to find the information before it gets too close to school time.  I also wonder how can you convince others that you are doing what is best for your child.  I'm not getting much support from my family.  I would appreciate any help you or anyone reading this can give me.

Hi. I'm so glad that you want information. The internet is awesome for finding what you need to know. Ebay has many homeschooling books to buy. Also, there are many homeschooling groups on Yahoo.  You can ask questions of other homeschoolers (what they did, etc) There may even be one from your area.

There is probably an actual homeschooling group in your area. Where you can met face to face with others who are doing it right now. Our group has people come all the time who are just seeking more information. 

 

The library may even have some books on homeschooling.

 

Good luck and God bless

 

 

 

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November 25, 2006, 8:51 am PST

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Homeschooling is a novel idea, I guess. Obviously, I am not a big fan of home schooling.  I understand wanting to protect your child, I want my child safe as well but the few kids that I have seen that are home schooled are sort of outcasts.  I know they interact with other kids in other situations and all but they do not have the same social skills as other kids.  I am not trying to put down your choice, I would never want to tell someone what they are doing is wrong, this is just MHO.  My son goes to a very good private catholic school and that is the only way I would have it. Kids need a little separation from their parents and need the enriching experience of school. Remember this is just MY OPINION.

I am thrilled that your child is in a good private school. So are mine. It just happens to be at my home. My children are not outcasts. Both of my daughters have solos in our church Christmas program. My son is 'one of the guys' at baseball. In both of these instances they are the only homeschooled kids. You can't pick them out of the group when they are surrounded by kids who are not homeschooled. My daughter's dance group is made up of both homeschoolers and private school children. They all interact well and you can't tell the difference from any of them.

 

I've know alot of private school children and I would never judge them based on "a few kids".

My father barely made it out of school. He has trouble reading and has had to spend years overcoming his 'schooling'. He attended one of our towns best Catholic schools. I don't judge the school, or have the opinion that private schools are bad. I also know several private school kids who don't mix well with public school children. They  can't really make friends with them very well. They are (if you have to label) outcasts,unless they are with kids from their school. I don't have the opinion that all private school kids are that way.

   

 
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