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Created on : Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 01:43:09 pm
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Millions of people suffer from sleep issues such as insomnia, sleep apnea, narcolepsy, sleep walking, sleep terrors, or restless leg syndrome. Share your stories and offer advice and support to others facing similar conditions.

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March 11, 2007, 12:50 am CST

good meds

I used to have problems with insomnia. I would stay up for weeks at a time then sleep for one night and then be up again for weeks at a time. Eventually they put me on medication called Trazadone. It kicked me in the ass and knocked me out. The only thing about it is that you have to eat a small meal with it and you can't have grapefruit. It worked wonders for me and if I still had my prescription I'd be taking them right now because I am once again having sleeping problems. If you happen to have problems with waking up in the night it could be because of sleep apnea. I had went to a ENT specialist who figured out that I had sleep apnea and so he did surgery to fix it. I would suggest getting a sleep study done.
 
March 14, 2007, 12:03 pm CDT

Get a sleep study

Quote From: snugs719

Hi every1...My name is Liz.I have "MAJOR" sleep issues.Since I was 12yrs.old I have had sleep issues.The problem is I very sledom sleep.Don't get me wrong,I try real hard,sometimes (well most nights) I lay in bed 5,6,7 hours before I can get to sleep.I'd give anything to be normal.Or am I normal??? Do I just NOT require alot of sleep? I mean I know all the docs say every1 is different,but is 2-3 hours a night  normal,and or healthy?Becuz I don't  feel rested when I get up.And the slightest noise will wake me most of the time.I have been on Ambien,Halcion,etc...Now my  doc tells me it's ok to take benedryl,to help get to sleep.But since I have been taking benedryl so long now....It barely works anymore.

So.....I am at my witts end....Any1 out there with any suggestions,I would greatly appreciate them.........

                          Thx a Bunch...

                                                                    Sleepless In Ohio

There are over 200 sleep disorders that cause inability to sleep, poor sleep, and daytime drowsiness.  The only way to know what is going on with you is to have a sleep study done by a qualified sleep specialist.  Ask your general doctor for a referral.  If sleep meds don't help, maybe they're not the right meds.  A sleep study will reveal just which sleep disorder it is, so you can get on the right meds.

 

My husband has sleep apnea and Restless Leg Syndrome.  He has a cpap machine, and he takes Requip.  Other sleep meds did not work for him because they were not treating the real problem.

 

I have Narcolepsy.  My nighttime sleep patterns are a little disturbed, but I am getting enough sleep.  The problem is that I couldn't stay awake for reading, watching TV, driving, or any passive activities, and for active things, I just wasn't alert and had slow reflexes.  I now take Provigil for the Narcolepsy, and there is such a huge difference in my quality of life.  I can now stay awake during the day.  I used to have to take a 2 hour nap just so I could stay awake to drive to the store.  Now, I can go all day without having to take a nap, and my sleep routine is much better...I can go to bed at a normal time, and get up at a normal time, and function during the day.

 

Again, GET A SLEEP STUDY if you are having trouble sleeping,  or if you are tired during the day...it could make a huge difference in your quality of life.

 

Also, if you seem to be requiring little sleep, and still have energy during the day, you might want to consider a psychiatric evaluation...don't be offended by this advice.  I have bipolar disorder, and one of the symptoms of mania is the reduced need for sleep, racing thoughts, trouble sleeping...etc.  After you have a sleep study, go see a psychiatrist.  Sleep disorders and psychiatric disorders go hand-in-hand.

 

I hope this helps.

 
March 26, 2007, 5:31 am CDT

Hi

Quote From: wereatthebeach

     I have had sleep issues for at least two years. The doctor has prescribed all kinds of meds to try to help me fall asleep, because that is my issue. No matter how tired I am, and I feel like I am ready to sleep, as soon as my head hits the pillow, I am wide awake and my mind is racing. I have kept a sleep journal, and had an overnight sleep test done. The doctor said I am a "true insomniac". I have tried taking sleep medications, and the one that can get me to sleep is AMBIEN, however, it has not been good! At first, I would get up, without knowing and eat, prepare foods, make a mess in the kitchen and even get lost in my own bathroom, where my husband found me trying to get out through the wall. I gave the Ambien up at that time, as I was packing the weight on, and not getting the chance to enjoy the food I was partaking in, and I felt such guilt from waking my husband with my adventures. One night, I got up and painted the kitchen and fell off the ladder. I only remembered that I fell off the ladder, when I got up in the morning, and was very sore. Well, no Ambien, no getting to sleep. I have finally swore off of it, and am now going through my first week of withdrawal and getting very little sleep. My body actually hurts from not sleeping, and I am sooooooo tempted to go get a refill of the Ambien so I am not walking around in a fog, but, the experience I was told I had three weeks ago is preventing that! I actually fell again, and this time told my husband I broke both of my ankles in the fall. He took me to the ER, not because he thought my ankles were broken (I was walking on both legs!) but because he knew I had the Ambien in my system and was afraid that if he were to fall back to sleep, I would get in the car and drive myself to the hospital "under the influence". He falls asleep very easily, so I understand why he took me. I fully believe that my insurance is not going to find a reason to pay my $3000+ hospital visit that night, and I feel so terrible that I put my husband through this, and then he had to get up for work!!! He also told me that I was talking to people that were not here, so hallucinating. My opinion is, Ambien IS addictive, and I have a friend who is hooked on it, and my sister told me her friend just tried it and she also had hallucinations. You just don't know what this drug will do to you, or what it has already done to my brain, since it makes you forget. Right now, my sleep doctor has me getting out of bed, early (for me!) at a regular time each day, no matter how much sleep I got the night before. This morning, I am here typing and have not yet gotten to sleep in 23 hours. I went to bed several times, and couldn't sleep, so I gave up and got back out of bed. I don't know what to do, or what could help. I just know that I do not want to put anyone through my behavior on Ambien! I am wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience???

THANKS!

Susie

I know what you mean with the Ambien. I had really crazy hallucinations on that drug. And after about a month of taking it I had a really hard time waking in the mornings. So, like you, I have stopped that drug.

 

I have since talked to my Dr. about herbal meds. He recommended I try Black Cohosh and Valeria Root. I've been taking this combination for 3 months now. And let me tell you, that has been the best thing to ever happen to me. I have no side effects, I wake up every morning feeling 100% and I sleep like a baby!

 

There is only one down side to Valeria Root...you can not take Valuim with it.  But once these meds get into the body you don't need Valuim anyways.  Another thing I do now before I go to bed is put on a Breathe Right Nose Strip. My husband wares them because he snors. But I decided to try one of those strips a couple weeks after I started taking the Herbal meds. Those nose strips make a big difference in your sleep also. 

 

Maybe these are a couple of things that can help you fall asleep and stay asleep all night. But I would ask your Dr. before you try the Black Cohosh and Valeria Root.  I know I have had no ill effects from these meds...but I'm not a Dr. and have no idea what your medical history is.  But I do wish you luck and I hope I have been of some help to you.  Please stay in touch and keep us informed of how everything is going.

 

I feel for you.

Mickie

 
April 22, 2007, 10:24 pm CDT

I'm with you

I have no idea what it's like to feel rested. I haven't felt that way in years, if ever. I had two majors in college and a job, then a stressful job with weird hours (journalist), then I went to law school. So for awhile I thought my problem was just stress. Now I know that can't be it because I'm not currently working so I have time to sleep, but I still can't sleep well.

I recently bought Melatonin and taking 1/2 of that has helped me stay asleep, but a nap during the day is still necessary. I'm going to ask my doctor to do a sleep study.
 
April 23, 2007, 12:44 am CDT

there is a solution.

Quote From: yvetteq

 

Wow, I really identify with Simbah317.  No matter how many hours I sleep, I always have a terrible time trying to wake up in the morning.  My whole life I've required lots of sleep.  I remember as a child that my favorite Saturday morning cartoon was Super Friends (I'm also 34), but it came on at 7:00 am and that was just too early for me to get up.

 

I've also had a problem with chronic lateness.  I remember in high school trying all kinds of things to make me wake up in the morning, including setting up my alarm (set 15 minutes ahead of course) across the room so that I would have to actually get out of bed to turn it off.  Well, it took me a couple of mornings to be able to sleep right through it and a couple more days before I didn't even hear it anymore.

 

I've been fired from jobs for lateness and one year I took my child to school late almost every day.  Even letters from the teacher and the principal didn't work.  This is very embarrassing, but I don't know why I can't get up early like everyone else.

 

To this day I have 2 alarms and I hit the snooze buttons several times.  My alarms are set about an hour before I actually get up.  I know I am losing more sleep this way, but I need all that time with all the alarms going off in order to semi-wake up and get out of bed.  When I do wake up I look like a zombie walking to the bathroom with my eyes closed.  I've actually fallen asleep on the toilet and dozed off in the shower.

 

I can fall asleep any time, any place, given the opportunity, even when I shouldn't be sleeping.  This does improve some when I have gotten plenty of sleep. 

 

Waking up in the morning is the hardest thing for me to do all day.  The only difference between me and Simbah 317 is that I don't have a problem falling asleep.  I knock out almost immediately after I get in bed.

 

Does anyone know if there is an actual reason for this or am I really just lazy?

 

 

I cant tell you how many times i here this same story over and over. trust me when i say "YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!" I am a tech at a sleep disorders center in indiana. i do sleep studies for people who are suspected of having sleep apnea. if you dont know what apnea is, its the stopping and starting of your breathing when you sleep. it can cause you to feel extremely tired and fatigued. falling asleep fast is a symptom, as well as, extreme tiredness no matter how much sleep you get. My suggestion to you is to do some research on sleep apnea and cpap (continuous positive airway pressure) therapy. You are not lazy, well maybe you are, lol, but you may also have sleep apnea. if you have any questions, let me know. hope you figure things out so you can feel better.
 
April 23, 2007, 9:47 am CDT

chronically late for years

Quote From: yvetteq

 

Wow, I really identify with Simbah317.  No matter how many hours I sleep, I always have a terrible time trying to wake up in the morning.  My whole life I've required lots of sleep.  I remember as a child that my favorite Saturday morning cartoon was Super Friends (I'm also 34), but it came on at 7:00 am and that was just too early for me to get up.

 

I've also had a problem with chronic lateness.  I remember in high school trying all kinds of things to make me wake up in the morning, including setting up my alarm (set 15 minutes ahead of course) across the room so that I would have to actually get out of bed to turn it off.  Well, it took me a couple of mornings to be able to sleep right through it and a couple more days before I didn't even hear it anymore.

 

I've been fired from jobs for lateness and one year I took my child to school late almost every day.  Even letters from the teacher and the principal didn't work.  This is very embarrassing, but I don't know why I can't get up early like everyone else.

 

To this day I have 2 alarms and I hit the snooze buttons several times.  My alarms are set about an hour before I actually get up.  I know I am losing more sleep this way, but I need all that time with all the alarms going off in order to semi-wake up and get out of bed.  When I do wake up I look like a zombie walking to the bathroom with my eyes closed.  I've actually fallen asleep on the toilet and dozed off in the shower.

 

I can fall asleep any time, any place, given the opportunity, even when I shouldn't be sleeping.  This does improve some when I have gotten plenty of sleep. 

 

Waking up in the morning is the hardest thing for me to do all day.  The only difference between me and Simbah 317 is that I don't have a problem falling asleep.  I knock out almost immediately after I get in bed.

 

Does anyone know if there is an actual reason for this or am I really just lazy?

 

 

I can identify with your inability to get up in the morning.  I had a sleep study done a couple of years ago...nighttime and daytime.  I was diagnosed with Narcolepsy.  I used to have to sleep several hours during the day just to stay awake to drive somewhere.   I never scheduled anything in the morning.

 

There are over 200 sleep disorders out there that cause daytime sleepiness, trouble sleeping, and trouble getting up in the morning...apnea, restless leg syndrome, Narcolepsy...those are the most well-known ones. 

 

HAVE A SLEEP STUDY DONE...it could change your life...I am now on Provigil, and I am much more able to stay awake...and I am much more able to get up in the morning.  One suggestion that the sleep specialist had was to set an alarm for an hour before needing to get up.  Then take a Provigil at that time.  Let the other alarm go off when it is time to get up...it will be much easier to get up.

 

My whole family has sleep disorders...diagnosed from sleep studies.  My husband has sleep apnea (now uses a CPAP), plus restless leg syndrome.  I have Narcolepsy.  Our oldest son has Narcolepsy (which was previously diagnosed as ADHD), and our youngest two sons have restless leg syndrome.

 

If you don't want drugs, my sleep specialist highly recommends the Feel Bright Light Visor, available online...just google it.  It costs about $200, and insurance doesn't cover it.  It is supposed to be very helpful for morning wakefulness.  Maybe your circadian rhythms are off...altered body clock for sleeping...the light visor can help straighten you out.

 

AGAIN, GO SEE A SLEEP SPECIALIST AND ASK FOR A SLEEP STUDY...IT COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

 

Becky

 

PS  You're not lazy.

 
May 24, 2007, 7:38 pm CDT

Can't fall asleep, and can't stay asleep.

Quote From: jgardner1014

I cant tell you how many times i here this same story over and over. trust me when i say "YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!" I am a tech at a sleep disorders center in indiana. i do sleep studies for people who are suspected of having sleep apnea. if you dont know what apnea is, its the stopping and starting of your breathing when you sleep. it can cause you to feel extremely tired and fatigued. falling asleep fast is a symptom, as well as, extreme tiredness no matter how much sleep you get. My suggestion to you is to do some research on sleep apnea and cpap (continuous positive airway pressure) therapy. You are not lazy, well maybe you are, lol, but you may also have sleep apnea. if you have any questions, let me know. hope you figure things out so you can feel better.

I guess I'm the odd one out these days. I can't seem to fall or stay asleep. For the last 5 years its been hell, and I had hopes that now that we've completed our final move, and staying put would at least help me to fall asleep much easier. Instead, I can't get to sleep earlier than 1:30 am , and I gotta get up for work at 5:00 am.

But to top it all off, if I do get into a good restful sleep earlier than normal I get the most terrible charlie horses in both legs! It's a struggle not to fall out of the bed to get up and walk around to try walk the cramp out. But, nine times out of ten I have to get into the tub to take a hot shower and just pray that the cramp will leave me in blessed peace.

I have tried everything under the sun to prevent the charlie horses, exercise, stretching, and until month before last, Quinine. Now they aren't making Quinine which was cheaper, but some synthetic stuff that now I won't be able to afford for any length of time.....

Anyone have any ideas? I would sure appreciate it.  I thank you so much in advance....*S*

Namaste

 

 
June 1, 2007, 5:01 am CDT

Struggling with Sleep Issues?

Quote From: wolfweeps

I guess I'm the odd one out these days. I can't seem to fall or stay asleep. For the last 5 years its been hell, and I had hopes that now that we've completed our final move, and staying put would at least help me to fall asleep much easier. Instead, I can't get to sleep earlier than 1:30 am , and I gotta get up for work at 5:00 am.

But to top it all off, if I do get into a good restful sleep earlier than normal I get the most terrible charlie horses in both legs! It's a struggle not to fall out of the bed to get up and walk around to try walk the cramp out. But, nine times out of ten I have to get into the tub to take a hot shower and just pray that the cramp will leave me in blessed peace.

I have tried everything under the sun to prevent the charlie horses, exercise, stretching, and until month before last, Quinine. Now they aren't making Quinine which was cheaper, but some synthetic stuff that now I won't be able to afford for any length of time.....

Anyone have any ideas? I would sure appreciate it.  I thank you so much in advance....*S*

Namaste

 

You can drink Tonic Water, it has Quinine in it. My father-n-law has terrible leg cramps. He drinks the tonic water and eats a banana before bed time, it really helped him.

As for the not sleeping that has been my problem and I have taken alot of different meds for it.  But have come across Trazodone 150mg, that  has been a miracle pill for me for sleeping. And to wake up really feeling rested, that I have struggle with for years. It is prescription only. You can start out taking half a pill at first then after a couple weeks increase to the whole pill if need to. Let me know if any of this works for you.

 
June 5, 2007, 4:21 pm CDT

sleep study

Quote From: wolfweeps

I guess I'm the odd one out these days. I can't seem to fall or stay asleep. For the last 5 years its been hell, and I had hopes that now that we've completed our final move, and staying put would at least help me to fall asleep much easier. Instead, I can't get to sleep earlier than 1:30 am , and I gotta get up for work at 5:00 am.

But to top it all off, if I do get into a good restful sleep earlier than normal I get the most terrible charlie horses in both legs! It's a struggle not to fall out of the bed to get up and walk around to try walk the cramp out. But, nine times out of ten I have to get into the tub to take a hot shower and just pray that the cramp will leave me in blessed peace.

I have tried everything under the sun to prevent the charlie horses, exercise, stretching, and until month before last, Quinine. Now they aren't making Quinine which was cheaper, but some synthetic stuff that now I won't be able to afford for any length of time.....

Anyone have any ideas? I would sure appreciate it.  I thank you so much in advance....*S*

Namaste

 

Have you ever had a sleep study?  Your symptoms sound similar to my husband and two of my sons.  Lack of good sleep and leg cramps at night.  Through  sleep studies, it was discovered that they have Restless Leg Syndrome.  They all take Requip for that.  There are over 200 known sleep disorders.  Since you are not getting a good night's sleep, chances are, you have one of those disorders.  If you can at all afford it...it's well worth the time.  Do you have insurance?

 

Good Luck...Becky

 
June 6, 2007, 1:41 pm CDT

Sleep Issues

Since I can remember i've always had problems sleeping. I would go to bed an not fall asleep for hours, even tho I am woren out and tired. Then once I fall asleep good luck waking me up. I on daily basis could sleep 16-19 hours a day (if I was allowed). LOL. I have alot on my mind like divorce, custody, raising my other son to be a good man....etc....I have taken Advil PM, Sleep Aid, Benydrel..etc.. I have recently started taking Tylenyl PM and have found within 20 mins I am asleep. But when I don't take them I'm up all hours. I just want a good night sleep without depending on meds to make me sleep. Think they will ever get a med that is not addicting?? LOL...

 
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