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Created on : Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 11:19:51 am
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The last of the kids have all left home, how do you handle your feelings of letting go of growing kids? Share advice and support with others dealing with empty nest blues.

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April 5, 2007, 9:58 am PDT

Dear dragonfly

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I really need some help, I have wrote to Dr.Phil for help several times but I guess its not important enough, --yes I am upset at all the drama in my life due to kids.

My 20 year old has moved on, and that was alot to deal ith as we are really close and her leaving home was hard for me and I was depressed for a long time, She always has been such a good daughter and I have always been proud of her and she continues to make me proud. She has a really good job, is putting herself through college and has bought a new car, and her and her fiance have just moved into there first apartment.

But the bad news is she just discovered she is pregnate and is very unhappy about it, and I am supporting the decision she makes, and when they moved into there apartment yesterday they discovered the place was filthy and filled with cockroaches,on a year lease.

poor kid!!!!!!!!!!!!

My 18 year old is struggling with life, she is a good kid, no drugs, booze.

But she thinks the world is out to get her, she is a senior and is not applying herself in school, she is going to fail a subject that keeps her from getting her diploma with her class. I have been so involved in school trying to help her but I guess you cant help those that dont want to be helped,she hates my husband, and he doesnt like her. They fight all the time putting me in the middle, which causes huge blow ups with my husband and I and we dont speak for days.

Last nite she tried to talk to me about dropping out of school and going to get her GED. WHAT?????????

a month left? that desnt fly with me. I made the MISTAKE of telling my husband, we got in a big fight and not talking again.I dont think that punishment is the answer, I think helping her get through school and working hard to have her graduate is the key.

I am at the point where I want a divorce, I want her to move out. But I have divorced once and I am not about to start over again at 45. WHY does life have to be so comlicated and why do people have to work so hard to have a good family life?

I am a strong woman who has been through alot in 20 years, and I should be able to handle this. But no matter what I do it blows up in my face. I just want to give up. I need Dr. Phil

Your idea regarding how to help your daughter obtain her high school diploma is right on, and I encourage you to go to call her school guidance councelor and find out exactly what your daughter needs to do so she can graduate with her class. Don’t wait another day!

Don’t allow your husband’s reaction to keep you down. Your daughter might not act like she wants your help, but believe me, she does! She doesn’t want to drop out of school, she is just thinking that right now, that looks like the easiest option- she needs you to guide her back on the right track. My advice to you is to try a new tactic with her, since what you are doing so far isn’t working. Sit down with her and tell her that you understand where she is coming from when she suggested dropping out, because she feels that is the easiest thing to do, however, you know she is a smart kid, and that you know she can do this- she is so close! Be calm and rational while talking to her, she needs to know that you really will help her out. She is probably feeling a bit desperate right now. Perhaps she feels that she will never measure up to her older sister in your eyes? I know that you’ve tried to help her a lot already, but now isn’t the time to give up. All you can do is continue to try to help her, and the rest is up to her. Let her know that you will do whatever you can, but she also has to hold up her end of the deal; it is her diploma, after all. A diploma will give her more opportunities than a GED in the long run.

Your husband’s silent treatment is equal to emotional abuse. Is this the way you want to live the rest of your life? Every time there is an issue, you fight, have no resolution, and get the silent treatment. That doesn’t sound healthy for anyone living under your roof; you deserve so much more. If you are going to fight, there should at least be a resolution.

 
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May 14, 2007, 6:09 am PDT

Empty Nest Blues

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Hi,  I am glad to finally read about someone else who is just truly heartbroken over all the kids being out of the house.  I have 2 boys, 20 and 24. I have been happily married to their father for 21 years and still love him so much, maybe more.    I wrapped myself up in my children's lives when they were born.  I dreamed of having a house full of kids, but was very fortunate to have these 2.  They are also self-sufficient and happy in their lives, which I am so proud of, but that hasn't stopped me from missing them and wanting to be in their life everyday.  Do you ever feel like someone came along and took your whole meaning of life from you?  I knew if I never did anything right in my life, I could always say, I  was a good mother.  I always thought I could protect them from everything bad in life, because I would always be "right there".  Now I feel lost. Like you said, even having a wonderful husband, a good job and lots of friends, nothing replaces the love, laughter, warmth and security of a child.  I hope things get better, like everyone says, but it's hard to believe this pain will ever go away.
Hi everyone. It's hard isn't it? I have a 21 yo and an almost 18 yo and they are great young men. I just get a real shock when they plan something and don't need my permission or advice. I don't want them to be reliant and they are making their own way which is exactly what we want for them. It's just weird to hear them talk about a trip overseas and realise all they need from you is the assurance that they can call if they need anything and to have fun. It happens so fast, younger parents don't realise that it does. I know they are caught up in the day to day stuff but man, they were little boys not that long ago.
I hope everyone had a nice mothers day. Cheers to all from an almost empty nester from Australia.
 
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May 20, 2007, 8:10 am PDT

More Drama

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Your idea regarding how to help your daughter obtain her high school diploma is right on, and I encourage you to go to call her school guidance councelor and find out exactly what your daughter needs to do so she can graduate with her class. Dont wait another day!

Dont allow your husbands reaction to keep you down. Your daughter might not act like she wants your help, but believe me, she does! She doesnt want to drop out of school, she is just thinking that right now, that looks like the easiest option- she needs you to guide her back on the right track. My advice to you is to try a new tactic with her, since what you are doing so far isnt working. Sit down with her and tell her that you understand where she is coming from when she suggested dropping out, because she feels that is the easiest thing to do, however, you know she is a smart kid, and that you know she can do this- she is so close! Be calm and rational while talking to her, she needs to know that you really will help her out. She is probably feeling a bit desperate right now. Perhaps she feels that she will never measure up to her older sister in your eyes? I know that youve tried to help her a lot already, but now isnt the time to give up. All you can do is continue to try to help her, and the rest is up to her. Let her know that you will do whatever you can, but she also has to hold up her end of the deal; it is her diploma, after all. A diploma will give her more opportunities than a GED in the long run.

Your husbands silent treatment is equal to emotional abuse. Is this the way you want to live the rest of your life? Every time there is an issue, you fight, have no resolution, and get the silent treatment. That doesnt sound healthy for anyone living under your roof; you deserve so much more. If you are going to fight, there should at least be a resolution.

This is my second message on my daughters issue.And I thank the person who replied.I really wish I had someone to talk to, but I have no insurance to pay for counseling so I keep it inside.

I totally got involved with my daughters school and we finally were able to talk her out of dropping out of school. But then something else happened. My daughters friend has come to live with us. She is a really good kid and always in good spirits which I have not seen much of in my home. I had to help this kid as she lived in a very abusive home( mentally and physically) and I knew this as the mom told me things a few years ago.

But, I have been finding out that they have still been missing school. My daughter doesn't understand how angry and frustrated I get every time school calls at work to tell me she didn't show up. I have done EVERYTHING I possibly could to help her get through school and have a great attitude on life and to try to reach goals. She does not give a s*** and I am tired of trying. I cant do it anymore and I am upset she is not going to graduate and I just want her to move out. I feel like a terrible mom, but I am tired and don't want to take care of her anymore.

I have financed her car a year ago, child support has been paying for insurance and car payment, And I pay for her cell phone that was added onto my plan. I want to take it all away from her. But how is she going to get to work(15hrs a week), what if she is in a accident, how would she call me, I know I am making excuses, And my husband says he would take it all away from her, and let her suffer, I don't know how to stand up to her. I just want her out, and it kills me to say that.

My husband is no help, we have been struggling with all of her issues for 5 years, and he is mean to her,calls her names, tell her he cant wait till she moves out,picks on her, he wont fix her car if broken,he wont have anything to do with her.. He has tried several times to win her over but she hates him, so he gave up, but he cant stop with his opinions and I hate it and him for it, but I love him so much.

At least I thought I did.

Now I added more to this all by myself.

I have a interest in another man-I know I am wrong to have these feelings, I know I must back away, I hate myself for feeling this. But I don't feel guilty.

I just want to leave everyone, and be my own person. I am tired of 5 years of fighting,5 years of sexual comments, 5 years of having my a$$ grabbed, 5 years of faking orgasms, 5 years of being told my parenting skills suck-which he should talk-he never had any, and 5 years of defending myself and my kids.

What the hell is wrong with me. All I have wanted was a happy family.I want to give up

Now I am more confused, more angry, and more alone than I thought possible. I want help so bad. there is none

 
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May 27, 2007, 1:14 pm PDT

Battling childhood issues

I need advice. I have been married for 26 years, have 2 sons, both married and 1 grandchild. .Well, things came to a head today between my hubby and my oldest son. My husband drinks and has done drugs in the past when the kids were young. I tried to hide this from them and tried to be the best mom I could. I stayed at home and raised them till they were 14ish and then joined the workforce. My hubby was seldom around (worked 3 jobs and wonder if he got paid for most of that cause he worked with friends that had the same bad habits) and when he was, he constantly drank. I stayed like most "for the kids". I know now I should have left. I can't stand being in the middle of this fight. I love my son and my daughter-in-law, and grandchild. The issue is this: my son has issues with his dad doing those things,seeing what he did and I can't get my husband to see that it still bothers my oldest. He says he "needs to grow up and get over it". I can't accept that! My husband can be very verbally abusive and this was how he was raised. No excuse! My son is trying to break the cycle. Our families fought at holidays or whenever they got together. It was terrible. I applaud him for not wanting this in his daughter's life. I tried, maybe I didn't do as good as I thought I was. My mom said I am a good mom. It is breaking my heart to have them not speaking to each other. I refuse to not see my grandchild. I love her and if my husband wants to act like a child and think he's done nothing wrong, then he loses. I try to make him see this but he says he don't care.....please help with any advice.
 
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May 31, 2007, 10:34 am PDT

Gone but not forgotten

I hope that young people can read this as well. I try to look back to when I left home and if I knew the pain ,if my mother would have let it known, I would have made it a bit easier. A child leaving home is necessary, they have their own life to live their own adventures and mistakes to learn.  One thing that would help is communication, there is no excuse today for a child/young adult to not let her mother know she is alright, she is fine, and not worry. We as mothers can still worry, as mothers do ,but no contact as in my case is heart wretching pain. My daughter dissapeared and refuses to let me know how she is doing, I can only assume she is okay since she refuses to answer my calls or emails. I have told her over and over, I loved her and to please contact me. The biggest problem that we had ,that she is upset with me over, is that she moved 3000 miles from the east to the west coast to live with a friend she met over the internet. Anyone as a parent would be upset about this ,but she felt in e-mails, several months ago ,that I was unfair, controlling and un-fairly judged her friend and this is why she is shunning me now. She said I was paranoid and that things don't happen and if it does it is Gods will. Please communicate with parents and parents please be aware of who your child is talking too.
 
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June 4, 2007, 12:10 am PDT

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Wow! So I'm not the only mother who feels lost without her kids.  My youngest just moved out 4 days ago and I have done nothing but cry.  Now I need to find purpose in my life.  I feel like I have nothong and noone why am I still here. Surely it is not to make my husband happy cause hell I never see him anyway.  When I do see him all I can think about is that it's his fault all m kids left.  I need major help
 
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June 8, 2007, 10:08 am PDT

wish I could suffer the empty nest blues

But my 26 yr daughter will not leave. She has a mild case of cereabel palsey and just refuses to do anything. she will not go to school even though it is paid for, won't get a job. she just plays on the computer all day. I know she would enjoy life and feel batter about her self if she would just DO SOMTHING.
 
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June 12, 2007, 9:09 am PDT

Be ever so careful what you wish for...

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They need to have a forum on here about parents being happy their kids are leaving home.  Since we fight constantly and my daughter is a mean person, I personally can't wait til she leaves home.  I am awful, but it's how I feel.
I know believe me, I know.  I have five sons, none of whom now speak to me.  I was (am) a good mom, stayed with my children, and for the most part thought they were happy too. I have no idea, my heart aches for them.  Though I have moved on, I go to school full time now and relatively happy, I still wish I had a full life with my children and grandchildren. My boys are mean also, and things in their lives will not be right until they fix whatever problem they have with me.  But, they don't see that yet.  With girls, I've talked to so many people who say mothers and daughters go through stuff but generally the girls change for the good, and you two will look back and be glad you hung onto her, she needs you no matter what!  Your feelings are understandable for now, things will get better, switch your approach!
 
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June 12, 2007, 9:18 am PDT

I feel your pain

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I hope that young people can read this as well. I try to look back to when I left home and if I knew the pain ,if my mother would have let it known, I would have made it a bit easier. A child leaving home is necessary, they have their own life to live their own adventures and mistakes to learn.  One thing that would help is communication, there is no excuse today for a child/young adult to not let her mother know she is alright, she is fine, and not worry. We as mothers can still worry, as mothers do ,but no contact as in my case is heart wretching pain. My daughter dissapeared and refuses to let me know how she is doing, I can only assume she is okay since she refuses to answer my calls or emails. I have told her over and over, I loved her and to please contact me. The biggest problem that we had ,that she is upset with me over, is that she moved 3000 miles from the east to the west coast to live with a friend she met over the internet. Anyone as a parent would be upset about this ,but she felt in e-mails, several months ago ,that I was unfair, controlling and un-fairly judged her friend and this is why she is shunning me now. She said I was paranoid and that things don't happen and if it does it is Gods will. Please communicate with parents and parents please be aware of who your child is talking too.

Hi there. I am a mother of five sons, all of them are gone and grown, but do not want me in their lives. I have five grandchildren out there. I am missing their love, they are missing me, even though they don't know it yet. One day they will. My sons do not want to communicate with me, and no reason why. There excuses are poor. They all had a pretty decent life, even though divorced and problems, I still kept them in good schools, no crime, I stayed home as much as possible, 3 meals a day, never beat them or severly punished them.   Who knows?  Of course I am guilty of mistakes, and not thinking they are forgetting any of those.  However they were not life threatening mistakes.  Maybe they were a little spoiled, but why would they not talk to me and talk to the dad they never knew. I begged that man to see his sons, to send a card. My kids did not want to talk when I'd dial their dad's number up. Now, they go see him, 16 years absent, I was there!  "He gets to see the grandchildren",   I don't get it. I am in  so much private pain.

Filling up my time is easy but sleeping without the nightmares is impossible I think.

 
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June 12, 2007, 9:37 am PDT

yes, i understand the pain

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I also have been through this situation, having one son who moved far away at 16 or so, wanted back to NJ from Florida. 

Then, my middle one had a baby when barely 18 and his girl 17.  they are nearby, but now the little one is 5, and i have enjoyed being a grandma, but now, it is like an empty nest all over again.  My daughter who is 18 has a baby nearly 2, and has been in and out of my life.  every time we get closer, her father who hates me, plays games, now, today, she is moving out with the baby, and mad at me.  i feel like i am beaten up mentally, the more good things i do, the more i feel taken advantage of, and now, my pride and joy little pal of nearly 2 is leaving, and i will most likely not see her for  her birthday in 2 weeks, and god knows for how long after that! 

I am feeling so depressed, and that it has to be something i am doing. i work a lot too, but just have not had time to have the outside interests, always busy, this all is devastating!

I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for the child mostly. the baby doesn't know what is going on!  At older ages we(our hearts) understand babies better than when we were young and thought they would adjust to every stupid thing we as young adults did.  They don't always recover, feellings of abandonment run deep, they get low self esteem, they are injured souls. Grandparents are the most important people in their lives and our grown up children are still too not grown to realize all of this.  Think of when it was we realized it.  So..suggest you ask her to please join you in famiy counseling for the sake of the child.  Ask her for one sure day a week, or two, which you are assured to see her, so that she has some sense of stability left in her little life.  Ask her to call you at least two times, if only to leave a message each week that all is well. Ask her, tell her, what you need to right now, before she's gone. This is child abuse, neglect, what she is doing is ripping the child out of her surroundings every time she has a gripe. She is using the child like a dangeling carrott, getting what she wants from that. Too bad, can't change it, counseling may help.  Do something, be as calm as you can. Get an order from the court if needed to see your grandchild, you can, because you have been a significant part of her life to this age. Do it.Blessings and I am holding the light with you.  Patti(peridot)

 
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