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Created on : Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 11:19:51 am
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The last of the kids have all left home, how do you handle your feelings of letting go of growing kids? Share advice and support with others dealing with empty nest blues.

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January 28, 2009, 12:01 pm PST

Future nurse & caretaker

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This is my fifth year at a college that is 200 miles from home (about a 3 hour drive). I go home every summer but I still am having separation anxiety from my parents. A high school teammate of my softball team goes to the same college. When I was a sophomore her dad died suddenly. He was considerably older than my parents but every since then I have a huge fear of my parents dying. If I think about it I start tearing up and feel the urge to just leave school all together and go home. I have focused my career goals around something that I can use to take care of them when I graduate (i.e. Nursing or medical field). I want to move back home and will only accept a job if it is close to my hometown. My dad had a heart stint put in last fall and I have just been overwhelmed with the thought of him dying ever since. I just keep thinking back to my friend and how she could have been home with her dad and how she possibly regrets that she was at college instead of spending more time with her dad. My life kinda revolves around my dad. I know this is biased but he can do just about anything. He does my taxes, he fixes my car (its not his profession but he's so good he once put an entire new motor in my car), he takes care of things in my apartment at school, and he does numerous other small things like that. I'm on athletic scholarship for tuition and books but I take out loans for living expenses but my parents take care of my cell phone, car insurance, health insurance, exc. so if anything happened to them I wouldn't know what to do. My older sister is causing extreme stress on both of them because she is getting in with the wrong crowd and is about to lose custody of my niece (whom my dad absolutely loves). He would be heartbroken without her and I think this stress could cause my dad a heart attack so I've been extremely worried lately. I argue with my sister and tell her that if she causes my dad to die that I will never forgive her (and I wouldn't). At this point I will graduate in Dec 2009 but I just want to pack up and come home to a community college to do nursing. My degree at college will be in Chemistry but I want to do nursing now bc a job with a chem degree will not likely be open in my small town. Also, my granny used to be one of those 55 year olds who looked like early forties, now she is beginning to really show her age and I'm getting very scared about her too bc of her health problems. I call my parents twice a day and also call my granny several times and usually have an hour or two long conversation on a daily basis (however, my parents don't like to stay on the phone and talk as long as she does).  How can I stop constantly obsessing about my parents and granny dying and more importantly how can I prepare so that when it enivitably does happen that it doesn't destroy my life?

 

 

Your post is heart warming;  daughter/grandaughter that appreciates and deeply cares about her family.  Your fear of loss is totally understandable, but living in fear of a natural event, that is going to happen someday, must put a cover of anxiety over your life. 

 

I too, had an overwhelming fear of losing both of my parents, but my fears and worries did not prevent the inevitable from happening and now I wonder if it prevented me from enjoying the time I had with them.

 

You will never regret caring for your parents & grandparents, it is admirable and generous , but it sounds like the fears you have may have too much control of your life choices.  That's just my opinion and I may be all wrong, since you sound very intelligent and successful.  

Also,  reading your perceptions of health, stress and family genetics(your grandmother ) it's clear you are very intelligent and observant.   I have always found intelligent, observant people to be worriers because they analyze every detail of life and can project future developments. 

 

 
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April 8, 2009, 8:30 am PDT

Empty nest = parents not wanting their own indepence

People always bring up the views of the parents when their children leave then a nest as well as children coming back in adulthood; but never views from the children that have there parents trying to come back to them.

I was raised by a single parent for most of my life... and it more so developed into a team rather than a family. She treated us as equals and we would try to balance the efforts out (my mother worked so I'd do the chores to pick up slack). When she was sad I'd be around to cheer her up and listen to her... so I grew up as a pretty mature child.

I'm now in my mid 24 and am the older of my brother and I. I left for college 6 years ago, move 24 hours away, and have been doing fine and I enjoy my independence (I wanted to be north, hated the florida heat, and wanted more independence that I couldn't get by emotionally taking care of my mom and brother). Last year my mother move up to my state and is falling back in to the old ways and she really doesn't respect my space and independence. She doesn't have any friends here and isn't social enough to go out and meet people so she falls back on me. I may not be the most social but I try and it's not easy when she visits every weekend. I'm not the type of person that makes plans for the weekend early in the week. I'm young and single so I pretty much like just deciding saturday morning... maybe I'll call some friends and we'll hang out and watch a movie. I can't do that when she shows up every saturday morning or friday night. It's not like she stays for a few hours either. She spends the weekend. I only live in a one bedroom apt. so it's not like I can hide her if I want friends over.

Once I wanted to go to the movies so she was like "Fine... I'll just crash at your place while you're out"... "What if we want to hang out here when we're done." was my reply. She said "Fine... just tell me when they are gone so I can come over." When I said... that they were probably crashing here since we had plans for the next day and they way they wouldn't have to commute all the way home she had a pouty fit.

I've tried to explain it to her but everytime I do she's like "no... i understand" but really she doesn't. She wants to get a boyfriend as well but how will she meet people by always coming to my place. How can I build a social life and get a boyfriend myself if I can have my space again?

It's been a year since she moved here and she needs to start forming her own independence.
 
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June 12, 2009, 10:28 pm PDT

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 My son who is 18 years old just graduated from high school a week ago.  I had a celebration for him on Friday.  Everything turn out beautiful, everyone came and we had a great time with friends and family.  Come Sunday night my son is in his room and I come into say goodnight and ask about his Saturday after graduation.  They had what they call a lockdown at the local university with all the seniors.  I proceed with several questions about some gifts that he received at his graduation party on Friday.  Well he snaps at me and replies with  Why are you asking so many questions. I was very hurt so I say goodnight and leave his room.  The next day I ask him if he wants to go with me to check out a vehicle that my husband might purchase for him.  He says no in a rude manner.  I was so saddened by his behavior that I just leave the room. Then my husband calls me and I start to cry.  Feeling like my son doesn't want anything to do with me.  I'm upset so when my son comes to ask what is wrong I refuse to talk to him.  Then later he leaves and tells me he;s going to look for an apartment to live in.  Mind you he just graduated on Saturday this is Monday.  I'm very upset.  To make a long story short I've spoken to him but he hasn't returned home.  He's staying at a friends house and says he's moving out.  My husband says let him be.  I just don't like that he's imposing on his friend's family.  He has a vehicle to get around but no job and no money.
 
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June 13, 2009, 4:16 am PDT

In short form...

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 My son who is 18 years old just graduated from high school a week ago.  I had a celebration for him on Friday.  Everything turn out beautiful, everyone came and we had a great time with friends and family.  Come Sunday night my son is in his room and I come into say goodnight and ask about his Saturday after graduation.  They had what they call a lockdown at the local university with all the seniors.  I proceed with several questions about some gifts that he received at his graduation party on Friday.  Well he snaps at me and replies with  Why are you asking so many questions. I was very hurt so I say goodnight and leave his room.  The next day I ask him if he wants to go with me to check out a vehicle that my husband might purchase for him.  He says no in a rude manner.  I was so saddened by his behavior that I just leave the room. Then my husband calls me and I start to cry.  Feeling like my son doesn't want anything to do with me.  I'm upset so when my son comes to ask what is wrong I refuse to talk to him.  Then later he leaves and tells me he;s going to look for an apartment to live in.  Mind you he just graduated on Saturday this is Monday.  I'm very upset.  To make a long story short I've spoken to him but he hasn't returned home.  He's staying at a friends house and says he's moving out.  My husband says let him be.  I just don't like that he's imposing on his friend's family.  He has a vehicle to get around but no job and no money.

Your son is trying to separate from you because that is the natural approach to adulthood (only, he doesn't quite know how to do it). Who did?

 

Your son is also feeling sad but does not know how to show it. He knows his time is coming to step up to the plate and grow up, even having to leave the place he lived in all his life. It is not easy for a young person to understand the emotions that go along with change. Adults have had more experience so they are able to make more sense out of their emotions. I would only offer him words of encouragement, support and compassion as he ventures along the path of the unknown and change and separations and let him prepare, with your calmness and non attachment to the outcome, so that he can be a person that he will later be able to respect and know that he had your respect as well.

 

His temper is a front. He is just as scared as you are.  :)  Kimi

 
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June 14, 2009, 8:55 pm PDT

confront other parents

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Your son is trying to separate from you because that is the natural approach to adulthood (only, he doesn't quite know how to do it). Who did?

 

Your son is also feeling sad but does not know how to show it. He knows his time is coming to step up to the plate and grow up, even having to leave the place he lived in all his life. It is not easy for a young person to understand the emotions that go along with change. Adults have had more experience so they are able to make more sense out of their emotions. I would only offer him words of encouragement, support and compassion as he ventures along the path of the unknown and change and separations and let him prepare, with your calmness and non attachment to the outcome, so that he can be a person that he will later be able to respect and know that he had your respect as well.

 

His temper is a front. He is just as scared as you are.  :)  Kimi

Today we called our son to return his cell phone to us. I decide that if my son was going to move away one of the conditions was that we would not pay for his phone.  He moved in with his friend who lives with his parents so I wanted to confront  my son's friends parents.  I wanted to discuss and inform my self about what conditions and for how long were they going to allow my son in their home with out him contributing to the cost  of his housing.  My husband says to let it be but  I don't like that he is not going to learn anything about what things cost if this other parents continue to feed and provide a place to play and lounge around for my son.  This well defeat the purpose of him knowing  what it is to be on his own.  Please help me with  my decision.  I'm afraid that if I don't speak up my son may get into drugs or other illegal things since the parents of this other boy provide everything plus money for their son  and some of his friends.  My son is 18 years old already but I still want to
 
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August 13, 2009, 5:02 pm PDT

i got the blues

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Hubby and I drove over to the town where our son is attending college last night. We had some things to take to him and wanted to have dinner and visit with him. We've visited a couple of other times since he left in August, but I noticed a difference in him this time.
He had been sick, caught the cold that's being passed around in the dorms and still had some residual congestion. He had bought me a CD that he knows I like. When we sat down to eat, he made sure his father and I had our menus first, and that we ordered first. He opened doors and waited on us. These are small things, but as a parent I was moved beyond words. He is homesick, but assured us that he loves college. He is finding his classes challenging but enjoys them. He is trying to qualify for a master's program.
He did say that weekends are boring right now because there's only one other guy in the whole dorm that does not drink or do drugs on the weekends. Until he finds others like himself, he has taken up running in his spare time. A bicyclist following him one day informed him that he kept up a steady 8 miles an hour for quite a ways.
 He mentioned all of this in an off-hand, casual way, but I know that it's hard for him. My heart aches with pride.

Omg ! My daughter is 17 and she has been my life forever , we are bestfriends, and always will be .

But  her grandmother needed her to move in with her and help with things , cause no one else will, So i let her , cause when holly was little and i was a single mom, just her & me , her gran helped us so i think i'm just giving back.. Now all i do is cry cause i miss her so much . everyone thinks we were fighting , but we have never ever done that , she has been the perfect kid never got in trouble , never ask to go anywhere,or do anything . she always just stayed home with  me , her stepdad  and her little brother .I've heard that if your child stays home and  don't go anywhere , That they  are Happy at home .  is  that ture  ? what do i do ?I MISS HER  .  I thought  well i have a 7 yr. old, so i thought that it would be great if i spent  my  time with him  like i did with her , but he is a daddys boy .

 
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August 14, 2009, 4:06 pm PDT

Its harder once they leave.....but

I have to say since I've been now through this two times, that basically once they reach that age, it's perhaps best they do leave.  It's hard but, when I weigh both sides of it, and see how it's been for other parents, when they're kids still live at home.  Well, I think now, I'm lucky both my kids left at 18.  They both went off to college, and doing well..It's just I find it harder, feeling so far away.  Since, I was basically a stay-at-home mom, I guess, I made them my life.  But, I worry more...especially, my daughter. 

 

She has a b/f, and I don't know what to do.  I mean, he's disrespectful to me.  The way he speaks, and he doesn't (as yet) make any efforts to meet me.  Any suggestions?  This will be a two part post.

 

Dee

 
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August 14, 2009, 4:24 pm PDT

pt. 2

So, I was wondering,  if your child (20) and away at college, and has a b/f.  and I feel, he speaks in a disrespectful way to me, and I've told my daughter but she doesn't say/do anything what I should do?  She's been with him, for over 1 yr. now.  I went out there, to spend time with my daughter and said I would like to meet him/take them out to lunch.  But, that didn't happen.  He didn't seem to make time??  Again, my daughter doesn't say anything.  Should I talk about it again, OR just drop it?  I mean, she says it's not serious, and yet I feel it is.  I mean, he gave her a ring with a diamond.  Yet, she says it's nothing...

 

I'm just feeling very uncomfortable about this whole situation.  Maybe, I'm old-fashion, and from the 'old-school' where parents MEET the guy she's with...and the 'guy' is VERY respectful!!  OR ELSE lol...When I was out there, the 2nd day.  (I rented a car) and my daughter ask if she could take it, to see him.  I said she could, since she said it was just a short while.  She called me, and ask ME if THEY could take HIS mom out to dinner..NEVER inviting me?!?  I couldn't believe it...so, I go very hurt/confused/upset...HIS mom lives where they do..I'm 8-9 hrs. away...my daughter later, said she was wrong and sorry..but, still it remains in my head, that it was HIS idea...because, later things got worse, my daughter was just all over the place with emotions, because she missed him..and it was HER that ask me to come see her...anyway, I called him, because things just getting worse and worse...He hung up on me..which made me upset..then, his voice was VERY disrespectful when he answered..anyway, I went home early...and it took 1 yr. to finally get things better between her and I..and I ask her, if her b/f could just send me a card..saying, that next time I'm up, he'd like to get together..and yet, nothing...Anyone have any suggestions??

 

Dee

 
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