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July 7, 2008, 10:32 am PDT

my mother makes excueses for her kids!!

My little sister who is 17 got into some major trouble recently.  Her and her 2 friends stole my parent’s car and headed form CO to Arizona.  The plan was to stop there and get some cash from the dad of the19 year old boy that was with them.  Then they were going to go to California and after that- WY, for a hippie fest. 

My parents called the car in stolen and the police caught up with the kids.  There was 19 year old Tyler, my sister Mary and another kid who was 17 named Christian.  Mary and Christian got sent to juvenile hall and Tyler to jail.  My Mom called me the next day to let me know of this and that my Dad was flying out to get her from jail and get their car and drive it back to CO.  She at that time was facing Felony grand theft auto.  I thought about this and talked it over with my husband and together we decided to offer Mary coming out to our home for the rest of the summer and babysitting. This was she would be away from all of her friends and the everyday things that go on where she lives.  My thinking was I can get to know her and she can find out who she really is. 

 My parents agreed and now we have Mary out at our house for 7 weeks. This is a good thing for her.

 

This is what I am having a problem with though: My mom keeps making excuses for Mary!!  She has said things like” If Tyler didn’t coax Mary to go, then she wouldn’t have gone”  that is ridiculous!!  Mary is 17 and if she can’t figure out that stealing a car is NOT a good choice then there is something terribly wrong.  That’s only part of it.  While she has been at our house she snuck on to the computer  (forgot to erase the history) and we found out about a page she has on an online dating service.  She lied about her age, her sexuality, and she even put on there that she lives here in the town where we live (where she is staying).  We almost sent her home for that because it was against the rules in the first place to be on the computer, but then on top of that putting the town where we live when there are only 200 people anyway!!!!!  I told my mom about this page and she starting making excuses for that too.  Saying that she probably just has it to communicate with her friends!!  She has a myspace page and an email for that- she doesn’t need to be on a dating service where 40 year old men are talking to her.   On top of that she failed to tell my dad about the page too.  Lets see, she also was buying Mary cigarettes for the few days before she came out to my house- her excuse was that she is addicted and she will get headaches if she doesn’t have cigarettes!  I let them know that she wouldn’t be smoking at my house period- end of story.  And let me tell you, Mary is doing pretty well for someone who is addicted!  There is so much more about this but the bottom line is that my mom can’t keep making excuses for her kids- she does it for all 4 of them that are still at home.  She is only enabling them and letting them know that even if they break the law she will be there to bail them out.  I need some advice because I do plan on sitting down with my mom and dad before Mary goes home so we can talk about these issues.

 
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July 7, 2008, 11:22 am PDT

Sister's issues/ mom's enabling

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My little sister who is 17 got into some major trouble recently.  Her and her 2 friends stole my parents car and headed form CO to Arizona.  The plan was to stop there and get some cash from the dad of the19 year old boy that was with them.  Then they were going to go to California and after that- WY, for a hippie fest. 

My parents called the car in stolen and the police caught up with the kids.  There was 19 year old Tyler, my sister Mary and another kid who was 17 named Christian.  Mary and Christian got sent to juvenile hall and Tyler to jail.  My Mom called me the next day to let me know of this and that my Dad was flying out to get her from jail and get their car and drive it back to CO.  She at that time was facing Felony grand theft auto.  I thought about this and talked it over with my husband and together we decided to offer Mary coming out to our home for the rest of the summer and babysitting. This was she would be away from all of her friends and the everyday things that go on where she lives.  My thinking was I can get to know her and she can find out who she really is. 

 My parents agreed and now we have Mary out at our house for 7 weeks. This is a good thing for her.

 

This is what I am having a problem with though: My mom keeps making excuses for Mary!!  She has said things like If Tyler didnt coax Mary to go, then she wouldnt have gone  that is ridiculous!!  Mary is 17 and if she cant figure out that stealing a car is NOT a good choice then there is something terribly wrong.  Thats only part of it.  While she has been at our house she snuck on to the computer  (forgot to erase the history) and we found out about a page she has on an online dating service.  She lied about her age, her sexuality, and she even put on there that she lives here in the town where we live (where she is staying).  We almost sent her home for that because it was against the rules in the first place to be on the computer, but then on top of that putting the town where we live when there are only 200 people anyway!!!!!  I told my mom about this page and she starting making excuses for that too.  Saying that she probably just has it to communicate with her friends!!  She has a myspace page and an email for that- she doesnt need to be on a dating service where 40 year old men are talking to her.   On top of that she failed to tell my dad about the page too.  Lets see, she also was buying Mary cigarettes for the few days before she came out to my house- her excuse was that she is addicted and she will get headaches if she doesnt have cigarettes!  I let them know that she wouldnt be smoking at my house period- end of story.  And let me tell you, Mary is doing pretty well for someone who is addicted!  There is so much more about this but the bottom line is that my mom cant keep making excuses for her kids- she does it for all 4 of them that are still at home.  She is only enabling them and letting them know that even if they break the law she will be there to bail them out.  I need some advice because I do plan on sitting down with my mom and dad before Mary goes home so we can talk about these issues.

What about your father; does he support your mother’s enabling?
For the next seven weeks, do as much research as possible on what happens to teens when their parents enable/make excuses for them. The stories you will find are things like this: the teen goes out into the real world, breaks the law, and ends up in jail. Then they have a life-long criminal record, so they figure what the hell, and they continue to break the law over and over. In their mind, it is totally fine, because they were raised to think that they can “justify” their actions whether legal or not legal. But legally and to the rest of public, they will always be a criminal, someone who can’t be trusted. When you find this kind of research, print it out and put it into a folder to present to your parents when you have your discussion with them.
Does your mother talk with Mary often in your home? It would probably be best to at least attempt to restrict phone calls, because if Mary is hearing from mom everyday that her actions are not her fault, etc., etc., then she is going to be more likely to make poor choices.
When you talk to them, always keep calm and reasonable. When your mother brings up excuses, address the excuses head on. The example of your sister doing fine for someone who is addicted to cigarettes is something to point out to her.
For the time being, be a good role model for your sister. When you talk with her, don’t be judgmental. She needs a positive role model, and that is you. Someone who is an upstanding citizen and a good mother, who is productive in their life. That is what you want for your sister, but she also has to want that.
Do you think that having your sister stay at your home and go to school there would be an option? She would end up having a better life in the long run; do you think she would be open to that?
 

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July 8, 2008, 11:36 am PDT

General Advice

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What about your father; does he support your mothers enabling?
For the next seven weeks, do as much research as possible on what happens to teens when their parents enable/make excuses for them. The stories you will find are things like this: the teen goes out into the real world, breaks the law, and ends up in jail. Then they have a life-long criminal record, so they figure what the hell, and they continue to break the law over and over. In their mind, it is totally fine, because they were raised to think that they can justify their actions whether legal or not legal. But legally and to the rest of public, they will always be a criminal, someone who cant be trusted. When you find this kind of research, print it out and put it into a folder to present to your parents when you have your discussion with them.
Does your mother talk with Mary often in your home? It would probably be best to at least attempt to restrict phone calls, because if Mary is hearing from mom everyday that her actions are not her fault, etc., etc., then she is going to be more likely to make poor choices.
When you talk to them, always keep calm and reasonable. When your mother brings up excuses, address the excuses head on. The example of your sister doing fine for someone who is addicted to cigarettes is something to point out to her.
For the time being, be a good role model for your sister. When you talk with her, dont be judgmental. She needs a positive role model, and that is you. Someone who is an upstanding citizen and a good mother, who is productive in their life. That is what you want for your sister, but she also has to want that.
Do you think that having your sister stay at your home and go to school there would be an option? She would end up having a better life in the long run; do you think she would be open to that?

I am not sure my mom tells my father everything that goes on.  I called my mom the day we found that website she was visiting and emailed her the link with the password to get into it so she and my dad could see what Mary was doing online.  Two days later I called to talk to my mom and ask her what her thoughts were on this and she ended up not being home, so I asked my dad.  Well- my mom didn't even tell my dad about the page!  I let him know everything that was on there and he was very concerned.  He then went on to tell me that my mom likes to hide things from him when it comes to the kids.  He told me that everytime he goes to get on one of the kid's case about something my mom always makes excuses for them.  This is very sad.  These are not the same parents I grew up with.  We have 10 kids total in our family (yours,mine, and ours), so you can imagine it was a little hectic at times, but I will tell you they (my parents) had a handle on every kid.  They knew where we were, who we were with, and what exactly we were doing.  When we got in trouble we had punishments.  When I was 14 I got caught shoplifing with a friend.  I had to pay ALL of the court costs out of my own money that I had been saving for 2 years, I was put on probation for 1 year, and I remember I was grounded for a really long time, plus I wasn't able to hang out with that friend anymore.  I learned my lesson the hard way but they were right there to guide me.

 

The day that we found out and confonted Mary about that page was a huge groundbreaking day for us.  My husband was really pissed off about it and we talked.  He wanted to send her home because he didn't feel comfortable having her in the house watching our children.  I talked him out of that and we decided that if we sent her home then nothing was going to change for her.  We then went into her room where she was crying and had a really great talk with her.  We told her that she is worth so much more than that.  She is beautiful, smart, funny, outgoing.  Everytime we gave her a compliment she cried harder.  She has no self esteem, no self worth.  It broke my heart.  Then my husband told her that the last thing he wants to see is her get raped and possibly killed by some guy she met over the internet.  That really put it into prospective for her, the fact that she has no idea who she is talking to and giving her info out to.  We both gave her a hug and told her we loved her.  Since then she has opened up even more to us.  I let her know that I will be here for her no matter what and that after she goes home she can call me and talk to me about anything. 

My mom has only taled to Mary 2 times since she's been here.  I agree with you 100% about limiting the time they talk.  On the other hand my husband had Mary call dad the other night to tell him herself about the page.  They talked for about 1/2 hour.  I told Mary that our dad is a really cool guy when you get to know him.  She will find out that he has been there and done that and can relate.  Mary and I agreed that she and Dad should start calling eachother twice a week.  The way I see it is if they start working on a relationship together now while she is out at our house then by the time she goes back they have the seed planted already.  I also think that having a realtionship with my dad will allow her to respect him more and open up to him. 

Having her at my house can only be good for her.  My family is very loving, we take care of eachother.  We have goats, pigs, dogs and cats that we have to take care of.  On top of all that she can see how my husband and I get along and respect eachother and treat our children and use us maybe as role models as to how a realtionship is supposed to be (we are not perfect,  but we try). 

As for her staying for the school year, we will have to see how these 7 weeks pan out.  That is something I think we could consider.

I am going to take the advise you gave me and start researching.  I might also suggest a book by Dr.Phil that has to do with bridging the gap for parents and teens.  Mary is reading a book by his son for teens right now. 

Thanks for replying, and sorry for the long posts.

 

 

 
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July 8, 2008, 3:26 pm PDT

Need some advice or moving in with parents (I'm 27 w/ 2 kids)

Here's the scoop, I am a 27 (soon to be 28) year old woman with two children (ages 3 & 11). I was in a 12 year relationship with my children's father which came to an end last August when I broke up with him. The story behind the breakup was that he was an excessive drinker, a drug dealer and an all around bad boy who only cared about being the center of attention and partying. I spent my entire youth with him hoping that things would change and although it took 12 years, I finally came to the realization that he was not good for me nor for our children and that we deserved more. I had grown into my career over 11 of the years that we were together and supported us for the duration, even trying to support his several attempts at college and many different jobs. I was always the constant in the relationship and never asked anyone for help. After the split I tried to maintain the home that we had rented for 9 years but the financial burden that he left me in was bad. I have close to $12K in credit card debt as well as the cost of raising two children in a poor economy. I really didn't want to file for bankruptcy or even ask family for help... but my parents recently paid $1,800  to pay off the balance of my car loan to see if that would help, which it did somewhat, but I am barely making it and finding that I just can't do it all. My parents offered a couple months back to have us come live with them until I could get some of my debts paid down and get back on my feet, which I greatly appreciate and I going to be taking them up on next month.

 

The issues that I am having are 1) the fact that I am going to be 28 and living with my parents with my two kids, especially after I have been out of their home for over 9 years and 2) that my Mom oversteps her boundaries just in everyday life with my kids (I'll explain). When I say she oversteps her boundaries I mean coming to my house every morning to wake my 11 year old up for school and picks out his cloths (just short of getting him dressed, which he is FULLY capable of) and packing him a lunch and driving him to school... she's done this off and on for about 5 years, off when I get mad and hurt her feelings by telling her to stop because I think he needs the responsibility. She takes his laundry (no-one else's) each week and does it for him. She will ask for him to stay the night on the weekends where she buys him whatever he wants and does everything for him. She'll jump ahead and register him for soccer and never allow me to do it, as if to say "well I already did it". She favors my son over my daughter, in part because I haven't allowed her to invade her life too but she won't let my daughter stay the night, just my son - because she says my daughter "is so busy and gets into everything". She questions my authority if I tell my son no, say after he asks to stay the night with her, she'll say "why not, it's not hurting anything" and "he wants to". She also got upset when I argued with her about my sons spring break this year, during his week off the kids were going to spend the day hours with their father, who at this point doesn't see them at all (he rarely takes them, maybe once on a Friday night every couple of months). She said that my son could just hang out at their house because his grandpa gets home at like noon everyday... I said no he could just go to his fathers just like his sister was doing. I didn't think it was fair to say to my 3 year old, brother gets to stay the week with grandma and grandpa and you have to go to your Dads. I feel that they come in a pair, if one is going to a place (within reason of course) the other should too. She was so mad at me and said I was being ridiculous but I didn't think it was fair. She gets into my business in every way that she can, she even took my house key off my extra key ring and was using it to get in when I wasn't home to do my son's laundry etc. I took that away and now she'll stand out side in the mornings while I am trying to get ready and ring the doorbell until I answer.

 

I really appreciate their help because I need it right now, it will help me get out of debt, but I don't know if it's right considering... is there a way that I can set some rules or guidelines with her so that she understands that I am their parent and am responsible for raising them? I'd like her to remember that I am grown and don't need her to raise me and my kids - I really don't know why she feels it necessary, I have never asked for any help and honestly since I left home she's smothered me and my son. I don't' drink, never smoked, and other than have been a teenage Mother, I am a responsible adult, who has worked very hard and have done a great job raising my kids - I was just put in a bad place because of the split and my poor choice in staying with their father for so long. Any suggestions on ways to deal?

 
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July 17, 2008, 3:50 pm PDT

My failure as a Parent

Today My 15yr old tried to kill me. I'm here because I'm at lost. In the past few yr I seen him become withdrawn. He has no friends, he lies, steal, cut keys and breaks in my room to get to the computer to watch prone, skips schools, says he hate me and his dad whenever we tried to discipline him, He then proceeds to distroy any thing that belongs to us. Writes that wish we were dead and skips school. Today I caught him sqeezing the neck of his 7 yr old brother.  I stop him from doing that but what made me angry was his total lack of accountability, remorse and respect. He storms away and slams the door. I go to confront him not taking the time to calm down. I point, shove and yell, he shoves back and hold me in a choke hold yelling, I want you dead. I blame myself totally for this.

I've been online looking of schools that can help they are all to expensive. What do I do. Where do I go from here?
 
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July 17, 2008, 4:46 pm PDT

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Today My 15yr old tried to kill me. I'm here because I'm at lost. In the past few yr I seen him become withdrawn. He has no friends, he lies, steal, cut keys and breaks in my room to get to the computer to watch prone, skips schools, says he hate me and his dad whenever we tried to discipline him, He then proceeds to distroy any thing that belongs to us. Writes that wish we were dead and skips school. Today I caught him sqeezing the neck of his 7 yr old brother.  I stop him from doing that but what made me angry was his total lack of accountability, remorse and respect. He storms away and slams the door. I go to confront him not taking the time to calm down. I point, shove and yell, he shoves back and hold me in a choke hold yelling, I want you dead. I blame myself totally for this.

I've been online looking of schools that can help they are all to expensive. What do I do. Where do I go from here?
Call the police and press charges, and he should get some kind of help though them, sence you can't afford private.
 
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July 18, 2008, 6:06 pm PDT

nephew finds birth father

my newphew found his birth father.should he or should he  not contact him.his father has dropped kids all over.my nephew is one of many.he really wants to find his brothers and sisters.But how would he do that.He wants answers from his father.But nhow realistic is that.The man was a lier and could never keep a job.The man has created about8 kids by different  ladies.
 
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July 19, 2008, 4:18 pm PDT

Help any advice

I am 37 a mother of 2. I have been with the same man unmarried for 17 years. A little over a year ago he got custody of his 2 other children from his first marrage, its been a night mare ever since. It took me by total suprise when they moved in that they could treat me so bad. I have been in there life since they were one and two years old now 17 and almost 19. the 19 year old is a pot head left school in the 8th grade never to go back she stays home all day gets stoned and steals everything I own. the 17 year old is a a drunk she is gone for days but when she does come home she starts calling fat b... says nobody wants me in this house why dont i move out there dad doesnt love me, and theres dad a drunk also who stays at the bar until 8 pm most ngiht during the week and on the weekend gone fishing when they steal things like my ipod, cell phone cds says nothing when they call me names he just sits on the couch and says nothing. he pays the rent and i apy all the house bills and groceries provide my 2 kids(his also) with medical and dental pay all the daycare, school field trips, school pictures anything to do with my kids i pay. I dont have any money to move out everything in the house is been either given to me by my mother or i bought with my own money. I dont have any money to move out and nowhere to go and feel like im gonna lose control
 
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July 20, 2008, 8:07 pm PDT

how to get repsctable kids, andbe a good parent.

I have ben having alot of problems with my 12 yr old, and my 15 yr old, since my daughter turned 12 she thinks she can talk horrible cussing all the time, trying to bully  and talk trash to myself and anyone who gets near her, my 15 yr son is always calling his sister horrible names,and cussing as well, i do cuss, however my kids mouths are alot owrse than mine. my fiance sugest i email you and ask for advice on how to handle this, I am a recovering addict, and i knwo my old lifestyle has alot to do with my kids,and their behavior i think it does, i have ben to several NA and AA meetings and  talked about some of the thinsg goin on and all i hear is send them away to jevenile detention, and i personally do not feel that is the answer. i want to be the best parent i can be and get some structure an drespect from my kids they always want to go somewhere or  do something and ask for money but have no respect and don't help much around the house, iam currently looking for a job, i get ssi, but the time has came in my life to get a job and do more for my family, I am not sure what if anything you can do to help , with  the situtaion that iam in and what i can do to get them to respect us. thanks for listening 

 
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July 22, 2008, 8:56 am PDT

Concerns, concerns, concerns!!!

Hi, I have been married almost 5 years and me and my husband live paycheck to paycheck. Currently, I am the main breadwinner in our relationship. We live in a one bedroom apartment and we really can not afford anything bigger right now.

 

My situation is that we have kindof decided that we do not want children, but the older my husband gets (he's currently 31 and I am 38), I suspect he will want children. The problem is I do not want to have kids with someone who does not make a lot of money. My husband knows how I feel about this and I do not mean to hurt his feelings, but our financial situation is just a simple fact of reality.

 

How can I keep from hurting my husband's feeling about not wanting to have any kids because he does not make a lot of money right now. I mean seriously he has given me $270.00 this month for bills. Our basic bills are approximatly $570.00/piece.

 

So...I just simply do not want to have kids with someone that has so little financial backing. Is this wrong of me to feel this way and how can my feelings regarding my husband's finances, or lack thereof, keep from hurting his feelings in the long run? Thank you!

 

Oh by the way, when I married my husband I thought he was going to become a nurse. That dream of his never materialized and he is currently working part-time as a bartender right now awaiting to go back to school in the fall to "hopefully" finally finish his bachelors degree.

 

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