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June 8, 2006, 6:05 pm PDT

Hpy_cmpr

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Morning MIMI,  

  

Thanks for your reply.  

  

I signed on this morning to see how Neko/Vickie was doing. She is still very upset. It would be nice if she got an apology. Those two words [I’m sorry can be so comforting and healing to someone that has been hurt. However, I would be very surprise if she got an apology. A person with (or displays) PA behavior that hurts someone realizes what he or she has done. However, I think to relieve them from guilt of their actions, they can turn it around so it appears they are the victim. I have seen this happen so many times and it is very frustrating to deal with. I hope this make sense. I’m still upset after reading Neko’s post this morning.  

  

I'll respond to the second paragraph of your post at a later date.   Honesty is best in our real personal life, but anonymity is better in Cyperland...LOL!  

  

Take care and have a great day!  

  

Hpy_campr  

This was a wonderful post full of wisdom. I am glad that you are so wise as to the ways that others can be sometime. I have seen this as well and I guess something that needs to just be stepped over. I feel bad for Neko as well. I think Elton John said it beautifully in his song," Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word." 

  

I also agree with anonymity in Cyberland is best! There are too many chances in our real lives to get hurt let alone add others that we have not ever seen to the mix. 

  

  

I am glad to have heard from you today. My day went well and peaceful for once and I am grateful. I hope yours did too.  

  

MIMI 

 
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June 8, 2006, 6:08 pm PDT

Depression

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YOU KNOW YOU ARE LIVING IN 2006 when   

  

1. You accidentally enter your password on the microwave.   

  

2. You haven't played solitaire with real cards in years.   

  

3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of three.   

  

4. You e-mail the person who works at the desk next to you.   

  

5. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends and family is they don't have e-mail addresses.   

  

6. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see anyone is home to help you carry in the groceries.  

   

7. Every commercial on television has a web site at the bottom of screen.   

  

8. Leaving the house without your cell phone, which you didn't have first 20 or 30 (or 60) years of your life, is now a cause for panic; you turn around to go and get it.   

  

10. You get up in the morning and go on line before getting your coffee.   

  

11. You start tilting your head sideways to smile. : )   

  

12. You're reading this and nodding and laughing.   

  

13. Even worse, you know exactly to whom you are going to forward this message.   

  

14. You are too busy to notice there was no #9 on this list.   

  

15. You actually scrolled back up to check that there wasn't a #9 on this list.   

  

AND NOW U R LAUGHING at yourself.  

  

  

 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

hpy_campr 

This was wonderful. I needed the laugh and this definitely gave it to me. Especially the last few. I sooner looked up to find nine and read 15 lol! It is funny how one little thing can change our lives. I think I do all of the above and wonder what life was like before 2006! 

  

MIMI 

 
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June 8, 2006, 6:21 pm PDT

Laurie..

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Yes we should love ourselves but we also desire to be loved, accepted and understood by others, especially a mate. 

  

Andre and I are up in the air I guess, we have been having alot of problems and it has exculated. One problem was he has not been doing anything, around the house but most importantly with me, he will not talk to me therefore we don't discuss our problems only fight about them. He will not spend anytime with me, he won't plan anything with me. I have tried to tell him that I just want to spend some time with him. that I need attention but he refuses. When we fight he looks at me with such hate, he has said so many things, I have too that I don't know if it can be fixed. Now my ex has involved himself and more or less given me a choice my kids or Andre, he is threatening to call social services, even though the kids were not even here, in fact I called my one daughter and told her to go to her dads afterwork so she would not be here, the kids have never been in an danger and I haven't either, I did feel very trapped last night, he was yelling and fighting, I felt I couldn't leave and I didnt' know who to call both my parents have passed away, who else do you turn to? If we do stay together now and I don't even no if that is what he is thinking, so much more has to be done because I will not lose my kids but I will not let their dad control my life, that is why we are divorced to get away from him but he still manages to get right in there in my business and my life, then tells everyone that even with everything that has gone on he still cares for me. 

  

Andre is not the same person as when I met him, in the last year he has changed alot, since his brother has moved here, since then I don't matter. I guess the reason I stay with him is I know how he can be how he was, how much fun we had together and how happy we were. I don't know if it is because of his brother or my depression that I have had for at least a year maybe longer, I have no concept of time, I have no idea when it started. But I know things with us have exculated because of frustration and not know what to do or how to fix it.  

  

To me it still wouldn't take much for me to stay and work on things but this time we will have to work on it not just go along and hope for the best. 

  

Laurie 

I am sorry to hear that you are going through this. It is not easy by any means. I guess you may already know having an ex. I, myself, do not understand there need to leave but then still want to control what goes on your life as if we are children and need a babysitter. I am diabled due to my condition so mine gets away with because he knows I still him to survive. It is a sick joke. 

  

I wish I could give you better advice on this but unfortunately being in the midst of the beginning of the divorce all I want to say is "run..." As hard and harsh as it may sound but I waited for mine for 18 years to change into the person I wanted; this fantasy that I conjured up i n my own head in an attempt to keep from feeling lonely. I am slowly learning that women don't need a made to make themselves happy. Fairy Tales have conditioned us to think this way. That we should Princesss waiting for our Night and Shining Armour to rush in and whisk us to some magic land. But just as we get disappointed to learn Fairytales are not real, we get even more disappointed to find there aren't any prince charmings either. 

  

I hope that things get better for you but if you are ever in a situation that causes you that much fear you need to get out immediately and call for help. You may think you know someone and what they are capable of but the reality is we don't and we have to stay smart for ourselves. 

  

I think it would be tough dealing with a current and an ex. Why would he want to take your kids away instead of just merely helping you with the situation? It doesn't make sense to me. You were wise to send your kids some place else for their safety. I think anyone would commend you for that.  

  

I will keep you in my prayers! 

  

MIMI  

 
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June 8, 2006, 6:34 pm PDT

Hi Fatima-Zohraa

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 I realy hope you can get past losing your best friend. I get that pain in your heart. I lost my best friend when I converted to Islam. That was not fun at all. But hey you are a very sweet and nice woman. And I´m sure you are going to get past this.

You seem to me to be so strong person. And actually I feel sorry about your friend too. Becurse she has lost a very good friend like you. You can talk to me about this as much as you like. I dont get tyred of listening to you. And that I can promisse to God about.

You have listening to me and you are there for me. So I´m there for you when ever you feel the need to talk I´m there.

A geat big hug Fatima-Zohraa/amica67

Thanks for your post.   I do appreciate your offer to listen to me and I'm sure I will take you up on it!   Of course I am here for you too.  Either here or through email.  

I'm glad you seemed to feel better this morning in your second email to me.  I meant all that I said and I think you have more strength and potential in you than you realize.  

I started doing a weight loss thing on here with Laurie recently and would be happy to do it with you too.    

I'm keeping this quick so I can check a few posts before my eyes get achy.  

  

Have a good....whatever time it is!!  lol  

:) Suzanne  

 
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June 8, 2006, 6:41 pm PDT

lol!

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YOU KNOW YOU ARE LIVING IN 2006 when   

  

1. You accidentally enter your password on the microwave.   

  

2. You haven't played solitaire with real cards in years.   

  

3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of three.   

  

4. You e-mail the person who works at the desk next to you.   

  

5. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends and family is they don't have e-mail addresses.   

  

6. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see anyone is home to help you carry in the groceries.  

   

7. Every commercial on television has a web site at the bottom of screen.   

  

8. Leaving the house without your cell phone, which you didn't have first 20 or 30 (or 60) years of your life, is now a cause for panic; you turn around to go and get it.   

  

10. You get up in the morning and go on line before getting your coffee.   

  

11. You start tilting your head sideways to smile. : )   

  

12. You're reading this and nodding and laughing.   

  

13. Even worse, you know exactly to whom you are going to forward this message.   

  

14. You are too busy to notice there was no #9 on this list.   

  

15. You actually scrolled back up to check that there wasn't a #9 on this list.   

  

AND NOW U R LAUGHING at yourself.  

  

  

 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

hpy_campr 

Hi Hpy Campr!  This was so funny!  It's also scary how completely precise it was.  Shudder....!   Really scary!  

   

Have a nice night!  

:) Suzanne  

 
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June 8, 2006, 6:47 pm PDT

How about hopping on the depression board life raft

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I have an announcement to make.   

    

Please be assured this has nothing to do with my most recent posts.  But I sincerely feel that this campaign is draining me to the point that I cannot take care of my own life.  No one realizes the time and effort that I have put into this, and for one reason only, because it breaks my heart to see and hear of all of the hurt in the world.   

    

I have made my share of mistakes, and I am human.  But I am in a situation that has been more devastating than I can describe, and I do not think this is the place to discuss it.  I think most of you are aware of the presence I have tried to maintain, with true sincerity because of my heart driven, and spiritual driven campaign(s).   

    

But when one gets to a certain point and realizes that his or her efforts do not seem to be having any impact; nor does it seem that I am accomplishing anything, it's difficult to continue with that effort.  It's trying to row the boat of my life in order to just survive the vicious attacks against me, and the other things I have to deal with in life, and hold the bag at the same time.  It's almost impossible.   

    

It's a sad and difficult situation, and I have to make some decisions.  I don't want anyone to feel unappreciated, those who have supported this campaign, to DR Phil's staff for allowing me to promote this campaign on this web sight.  My strength is almost depleted, as well as my funds.     

    

So I must decide to either row the boat, or hold the bag.  And I do not mean this in any derogatory manner.  Unless something changes soon, I will have to row the boat, or else we can't eat, go to the doctor, we want have a place to live, and we will continue to drift on the perilous tides of an endless see of unforgiving predators and elements.  So another way to put it, is to sink or swim.   

    

And for me to swim with or without holding the bag is like trying to swim with a backpack filled with rocks.   I certainly do not wish to try to make my situation sound any worse than those of you who are dealing with the same situations, or similar situations.   But please consider, the undercurrents of the sea of life are stronger than I.  The tides are more than I can surf, and the oars that paddle my boat are as lead; heavy and very difficult to maneuver.     

    

I am so trapped, in a situation of trying to find my way in the darkness, and feel that if I had the strength that I once had, I could find my way.  But my strength is diminished, my supplies for survival; depleted.  And as much as I would love to stay here and continue on with this campaign, and try to answer every email, be the ox that draws the wagon to save the children, other things in life have taken that strength from me.   

    

I am a man of faith, I believe in GOD, and living a righteous life, and the most important thing in my heart and mind is to help others, and pluck them from these overpowering currents of the sea of life.  But without the strength and the resources to feed this ox, then he has no strength.  He is left to fend for himself, and the cart is too heavy, the tides are too strong, the oars too heavy, and the bag is left sitting there, waiting for me to regain my strength, or for someone else to come along and carry it for a while.   

    

I will say this.  As recent as two nights ago, while treading the waters of survival, I was given a blow, and handed a stone, far too heavy for me to hold on to, I had to let it go.  It almost, or could have taken me under so easily.  My wife and son watched and wondered if I would pull out of this one, without their help, I may not have.   

    

I cannot reveal the literal sense of the events that occurred, but I can tell you this, as I told my wife in so many words, after all of these years of struggles, never did I once consider letting go of this object that had defied my very essence of existence.  That stone's throw from Misery got a lot closer than a stone's throw, it was at my back door.   

    

I do not mean to leave you people in the dark, and I am not saying that I attempted suicide, if that's what you are thinking.  But this journey that i have been traveling for so long took a very bad turn.   

    

I can only say that my heart is here, but the motes of life have become too wide for me to cross, and the waters of the motes, shark infested.   And there is no draw bridge to speak of.  And the gap between my heart and this campaign is seamless, non-existent, but the gap between my abilities and this campaign opened up with the power of a devastating earthquake.   

    

The hurdles which I could once clear with ease have now become impossible, literally impossible to attempt.   

    

I may be back tomorrow, I may be back tonight, but the prospect doesn't look very promising.  And I carry this burden of guilt and feelings of haplessness seeing those of you, and the children of our world sinking in this huge sea of relentless undercurrent and I cannot do anything about it.  I cannot function without my medications, I cannot function with the mass of guilt and sadness that I carry on my shoulders.   

    

I wish I could say more, but I cannot at this time,     

    

God bless you all,   

    

djmatt   

We can't say it will be a smooth ride or not a little scary. But the good news is... you'll be in good company and you'll always have someone here willing to throw you a life saver. 

  

You do what ever you have to to be well (even if means getting help from others) and safe. If you do that the rest will fall into place. Just what you have accomplised so far is very incredible. Maybe you have accomplished what GOD needed you too. His will may not always be clear but it is always right.  

 
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June 8, 2006, 7:08 pm PDT

hillbilly

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I don't think you and I have talked before.  I'm allergic to bees too but not so bad that it would be dangerous.  I do swell more than usual if stung.   My, mid 40's and you think you are old?  You are just in your prime.   If you dont mind my asking, what part of Utah do you live?  You say you are a hillbilly, does that mean you are in a small town? 
i'm from morgan utah but live in brigham utah which used to be a small town, but i'll be leavin in a few yrs to a different small town this one's gettin to big fer me.
 
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June 8, 2006, 7:21 pm PDT

Laurie

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Yes we should love ourselves but we also desire to be loved, accepted and understood by others, especially a mate. 

  

Andre and I are up in the air I guess, we have been having alot of problems and it has exculated. One problem was he has not been doing anything, around the house but most importantly with me, he will not talk to me therefore we don't discuss our problems only fight about them. He will not spend anytime with me, he won't plan anything with me. I have tried to tell him that I just want to spend some time with him. that I need attention but he refuses. When we fight he looks at me with such hate, he has said so many things, I have too that I don't know if it can be fixed. Now my ex has involved himself and more or less given me a choice my kids or Andre, he is threatening to call social services, even though the kids were not even here, in fact I called my one daughter and told her to go to her dads afterwork so she would not be here, the kids have never been in an danger and I haven't either, I did feel very trapped last night, he was yelling and fighting, I felt I couldn't leave and I didnt' know who to call both my parents have passed away, who else do you turn to? If we do stay together now and I don't even no if that is what he is thinking, so much more has to be done because I will not lose my kids but I will not let their dad control my life, that is why we are divorced to get away from him but he still manages to get right in there in my business and my life, then tells everyone that even with everything that has gone on he still cares for me. 

  

Andre is not the same person as when I met him, in the last year he has changed alot, since his brother has moved here, since then I don't matter. I guess the reason I stay with him is I know how he can be how he was, how much fun we had together and how happy we were. I don't know if it is because of his brother or my depression that I have had for at least a year maybe longer, I have no concept of time, I have no idea when it started. But I know things with us have exculated because of frustration and not know what to do or how to fix it.  

  

To me it still wouldn't take much for me to stay and work on things but this time we will have to work on it not just go along and hope for the best. 

  

Laurie 

I can't really stay on now-I have to get to bed early because I have to be somewhere early tomorrow morning. 

  

I only caught glimpses of your latest stuff with Andre.  I will try to read through things more carefully when I can. 

  

I hope you are doing alright.  My thoughts are with you and I hope you are not making yourself crazy.  I guess I'll know more when I read up on things. 

  

Take care and have a good night..I'll speak to you soon. 

Hugs..Suzanne 

 
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June 8, 2006, 7:24 pm PDT

TIP OF THE WEEK

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We can't say it will be a smooth ride or not a little scary. But the good news is... you'll be in good company and you'll always have someone here willing to throw you a life saver. 

  

You do what ever you have to to be well (even if means getting help from others) and safe. If you do that the rest will fall into place. Just what you have accomplised so far is very incredible. Maybe you have accomplished what GOD needed you too. His will may not always be clear but it is always right.  

WHEN LIFE HAS A NEGATIVE HOLD ON YOU LIKE THIS, YOU HAVE TO STOP THINKING ABOUT WHAT WENT WRONG.  STOP THINKING ABOUT THE PAST.  YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT. FORGIVE IT TO FREE YOURSELF. SEPERATE FROM THE PAST AND THE PAIN AND START NEW. SUICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER. IF YOU CHECK OUT, YOU'LL BE BORN RIGHT BACK INTO WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ESCAPE. THE WORLD WILL ALWAYS CHALLENGE YOU.  THAT IS ITS PURPOSE. ALL OF US DEAL WITH SITUATIONS THAT TAKE US TO THE EDGE. YOU ARE IN THE MIDST OF DARK DAYS, BUT YOU CAN MOVE TOWARDS THE LIGHT IF YOU JUST STOP RESISTING THE SITUATION AND START LOOKING FOR A WAY TO RISE ABOVE THE MATTERS. ARE YOU GOING TO BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE TODAY? LIFE WILL DELIVER NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.   

  

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND DOING SOME MEDITATION AND READING SOME BUDDHIST BOOKS. 

 
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June 8, 2006, 8:24 pm PDT

Hi Tama.... Ditto

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if i was in the woods who would i have there with me? i said him. if i saw an animal in the woods what would it be? i said a deer. what would it be doing? i said looking at me... if i had a house in an opening in the woods what would it look like? i said it would be a big white one with a pourch around it and a fence . if i had a table what would be on the kitchen table? i said big roses. he that the fence around my house would probly mean that i felt like i was closed in or that i needed to be kept safe from others that might hurt me. i said well do you blaim me? he got these quetions from a guy at work today.. he is going to take my answers and see what the guy says about my answers tomorrow......tim picked my dad to be in the forest with him..... actually i would have too.....and ofcourse the deer was a no brainer for all of us.... or i could have said that dad was in the woods walking towards us........i wonder what that would have ment..... hummmm..it would have ment that he is always in my heart and on my mind and i feel him right hear beside me at all times. and that i have never gotten over him being gone. i just cant do it. and dont feel it. i talk about him everyday... just like he is right here beside me.... and all of my pets that i have ever had are right here too. i even told shelly and mandy to watch the house the other day and for toby and brandy to be good too....and i told mittens to make sure frisco didnt get into the fish tank again...... i was so lonely and i missed each and everyone of them that i just had to make sure they all had a job to do. and even timmy was sleeping on tiny in there aquarim like they always did. (my 2 turtles) and i even looked outside to see if i could see cassie and velvet and the donkeys and the other horses i ever knew..... so as you can see ive really lost it...... im really over the edge...... im even talking to the people in my life that are dead. cousins, aunts friends, grandpairents and uncles.... im freeking out really bad ive just lost it........i want to be with them all so very much.. i feel them so close to me and it like i can just reach out and touch them...just strech my fingers a lil bit more and i will be there...........i want to be with them, we all want to be with them. mom hate living with out daddy. grandma wants her PA back in her arms she misses him so very much.....we are all just exsisting here and taking up space. going through the motions.. we arent living................
I cannot wait to hear what guy at work says about y'all's answers. The Mavericks are playing in basketball finals with Suns here yet I watched the new Lotto series on TV. Last I saw teams were tied at 56 so will be interesting to see who wins tonight. Sweet dreams....
 
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