Topic : Overcoming Grief

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Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.


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December 2, 2005, 1:02 pm PST

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One thing I've learned about human nature is that more people care than you know!  I lost my husband in 1993 (suicide) and my 22 year old son February, 2004 ("accidental" suicide) and I know that it's possible to move on.  You will never forget your loved ones, you will learn to live without them and you have to do the grief "work" to get there.  When I have to describe what it feels like to have someone so dear to me, I say I imagine it is like losing an arm or a leg.. that you're terribly angry about it and miss that limb and know you will never get it back, that your life is changed forever, but eventually you learn to live with that void in your life.   Someone in grief counseling once told me "your life will never be the same but it WILL be good again".  I've held onto that hope each and every day, some days ARE better than others.    There are some wonderful grief and loss groups online that you may find comfort in.  I don't have the websites saved on my work computer but I do at home.  I'll try to post them for you over the weekend. 

  

My heart truly goes out to you now and through the coming holidays.   

i read your message and i have been trying so hard to deal with my feelings.  My husband went out on sunday morning Jan.30 2005. He went out like he always do to get the paper, i called him on his cell to see what he wants for breakfast, he reply the same as always his regular.  He came home and aid some letters on the kitchen table one for each of us my 4 children and myself  each in it's own envelope,and started handing the kids 100.00 bills and went down stairs  I could 't understand what was going on at that time.  My oldest daughter read her letter and i was so busy trying to get the money away from the kids, that by time i turn and made way to go downstairs all we heard was a gunshot.  My husband went in our bedroom and shot himself and i try so hard each day not to think about it to keep myself busy, to keep saying that i will be alright if i keep busy and focus on my kids .  It has been almost a year and i feel so many things i feel like shutting down, i feel like i want to scream and curse him for doning this to my children, I feel overwhelmed,  I feel so alone at times and i can't stop replaying that day in my head.  i need to know when do i start to heal?  I need to know when do i forgive him and when do i get that image out my head of him on the bed?    I need a break emotionally and finacially.  I need to grieve. 
 
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December 2, 2005, 10:24 pm PST

Loss of Pets are really so hard

I know that this is not a big deal to some of you, while some of you will know exactly what I'm talking about.  My boyfriend and I have recently have lost our cat that we had since he was 4 weeks old.  He would've been 7 (in human years), 49 (in cat or dog years).  We showered him with so much attention for so many years and now he's gone.  This cat was just like our kid or something.  Bootsie was his name and he lived with us since we moved in together.  That cat had such strong human qualities it was crazy.  We both feel the void and such emptiness now in the home without him.  It has been 3 weeks since his dissappearance and we both agree that we should not get another pet at this point, not until we're over the grief.  I know that I'm rambling about him.  I just don't know how we're ever going to be able to get another pet when we felt so strongly about Bootsie and now we're just lost.  I know that some ppl may think this weird, so I just want some words of advice from all the animal lovers out there who understand.  Thanks
 
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December 2, 2005, 10:32 pm PST

I wish you peace for the holidays

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I LOST THE 2 MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN MY LIFE,MY MOM AND DAD.TWO YEARS AGO,ON THANKGIVING NIGHT MY MOM HAD A HEART ATTACK,THEY HAD TO DO OPEN HEART SURGERY,SHE MADE IT THROUGH THAT,BUT A WEEK LATER SHE HAD A STROKE.SHE PASSED AWAY DEC. 17.THE NEXT MONTH MY DAD WAS DIAGNOSED WITH LUNG CANCER.HE UNDERWENT CHEMO,AND THE CANCER WAS ACTUALLY GOING AWAY,BUT A FEW DAY LATER AFTER THE GOOD NEWS ,ON EASTER SUNDAY MY DAD ALSO HAD A HEART ATTACK,A WEEK LATER HE PASSED AWAY 4 MONTHS 1 DAY AFTER MY MOTHER DIED.IT HAS BEEN REALLY HARD FOR ME .MY PARENTS  HAD ME WHEN THEY WERE IN THEIR 40'S SO IWAS ONLY 28 WHEN THEY PASSED.I MISS THEM SO MUCH.I LIVED IN THE SAME TOWN AS THEM AND SAW THEM EVERYDAY.MY PARENTS WERE ALWAYS THERE FOR ME AND I MISS THEIR ADVISE AND THEIR STORIES.THE HOLIDAYS ARE HARD FOR ME BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE,PLUS THATS ALL I CAN SEEM TO REMEMBER ABOUT THANKSGIVING,CHRISTMAS,AND EASTER IS WHAT HAPPEN TO THEM.I FEEL GUILTY SOMETIMES TRYING TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THEY WOULDN'T WANT ME TO,PLUS I HAVE 2 BEAUTIFUL KIDS THAT I DON'T WANT TO RUIN IT FOR THEM. I USUALLY KEEP IT TO MYSELF ,CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BRING ANYBODY DOWN.ABOUT A MONTH AGO ,MY 51 YEAR OLD BROTHER WAS DIAGNSED WITH ALS,AND HE HAD TO BE PLACED IN A NURSING HOME.I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE IS NO CURE FOR WHAT HE HAS.I ONLY HAVE MY BROTHER AND SISTER LEFT IN MY FAMILY.BOTH SETS OF GRANDPARENTS ARE GONE.I JUST WISH I COULD OF HAD LONGER WITH THEM,BUT I'M JUST HAPPY THAT I HAD SUCH WONDERFUL  PARENTS. 

I am so sorry for all of your losses.  I know that it must be difficult for you to bear.  I also know that you will get through it.  Allow yourself all the time you need for you, do the things that bring you happiness, and above all...allow yourself to grieve, even when the pain is unbearable.  Things will start to get easier with time.  You're in my prayers....HUGS.
 
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December 2, 2005, 10:50 pm PST

I lost my favorite uncle to suicide

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My son committed suicide last Dec. or say that is what the authorities say, I dont belive that is what happend to him none the less he is gone from me, from his family and friends. I guess my shield of shock has worn off and the time of his death is nearing. I have the 'gift' of communicating with the departed at times and have had communication with my son a few times. The problem is that this is the first time I have ever had communications with a loved one of my own (I have in the past only communicate for others) though I have the communication with him I am still very lost. Now my oldest daughter whom I have been very close with (we were/are(?) best friends) has cut me off of communications. I can only assume her shield of protection has worn from her as well. She has never spoken to me the way she did the other day. My heart was braking at the things she said and worst of all...she said if her brother did commit suicide...it was all my fault  :(   she said I should have known he was going to do this, if he really did. She does not want to come home for thanksgiving or christmas. She wont take my calls or answer my emails. It has been over aweek. We have never gone this long without speaking to each other. We haven'teven gone one day! My heart is broken. After my son passed her father cut off all communication with her (we are divorced).  He will not talk to her or I at all. This does not bother me that he wont speak to me but it really hurt sher. He wont listen to how hurt she is. I thought maybe if I gave her some space she would come around but her boyfriend emailed me and said. All she does is sits around crying and told me not to stop communication with her. I am so lost as I seem to be able to help others but unable to help myself in this matter or my daughter. Also If anyone has a loved one who has committed suicide  can you please contact me please. I have some questions. Thank you
It has been almost 8 years ago since my favorite uncle commited suicide, that's what the authorities had said it was anyway.  He was found in a parking garage of a company he worked for in a closed area sitting in his van.  The authorities ruled it a suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning.  Different family members are still confused by that.  My uncle was a Deacon of the church that he attended, had 2 beautiful daughter, and had a wife.  Two days before he was found he had came home from work early and caught his wife in bed with another man.  I myself have questions bout what happened to him.  I have no idea why a man of his lifestyle would go to such an extreme thing.  I may not have an answer to your question, but I can talk to you.  You're in my prayers...HUGS
 
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December 2, 2005, 11:19 pm PST

i lost my daugther sudden death

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it been 11years the pain that she gone life forever. she 14 when she die the last thing she said i love you mom. i hurt so much aroud hoilday not have her there .they it git easier when?
 
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December 3, 2005, 9:04 am PST

Overcoming Grief

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i read your message and i have been trying so hard to deal with my feelings.  My husband went out on sunday morning Jan.30 2005. He went out like he always do to get the paper, i called him on his cell to see what he wants for breakfast, he reply the same as always his regular.  He came home and aid some letters on the kitchen table one for each of us my 4 children and myself  each in it's own envelope,and started handing the kids 100.00 bills and went down stairs  I could 't understand what was going on at that time.  My oldest daughter read her letter and i was so busy trying to get the money away from the kids, that by time i turn and made way to go downstairs all we heard was a gunshot.  My husband went in our bedroom and shot himself and i try so hard each day not to think about it to keep myself busy, to keep saying that i will be alright if i keep busy and focus on my kids .  It has been almost a year and i feel so many things i feel like shutting down, i feel like i want to scream and curse him for doning this to my children, I feel overwhelmed,  I feel so alone at times and i can't stop replaying that day in my head.  i need to know when do i start to heal?  I need to know when do i forgive him and when do i get that image out my head of him on the bed?    I need a break emotionally and finacially.  I need to grieve. 

Suicide is insidious.  It leaves we survivors with such a sense of hopelessness and helplessness.  You begin to see the signs that were there but didn't notice and beat yourself up.  You felt like you should have done something.  But what?   I asked my husband's brother, who attempted suicide 6 months prior to my husband's death, what in the world he could have been thinking to have attemped such a thing.  He said that he had two thoughts. "I'm in pain and I need out"  That was it.  I learned that suicidal people have tunnel vision, once they set their mind to it, they will become single-minded in carrying out their mission.  nd they don't consider the people and the mess they will leave behind. 

  

Please, please don't blame yourself or think you could have done something.  The bottom line is this - your husband made a very bad, very final choice.  It was his choice and his alone.  It's o.k., in fact, normal, to be really pissed at him.  He abandoned you.  He took the coward's way out.  But he was in pain beyond what you could possibly imagine otherwise, how could he have left you and your children behind.   Taking care of your children is probably keeping you from shutting down but you still need to grieve this.  I was really frightened of the grief process at first, but I found a group for suicide survivors (your area probably has one. I would highly recommend it) and it was so helpful to be in a room  with people that felt the exact same pain and hopelessness and disillusionment as me.  I didn't feel so alone any more.  You're not alone, either. 

  

It took me a long time to forgive my husband but I finally did.  I loved him madly, and miss him terribly still.  But in my heart I know that no longer suffers from whatever demons drove him to do it and know I will see him again one day. 

  

I hope you find comfort.  Give yourself a hug for me, I really do care. 

  

There are couple of really good websites for grief and loss:   

  

  

http://www.webhealing.com/ 

http://www.beyondindigo.com/

http://www.widownet.com/ 

  

  

 

 
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December 3, 2005, 9:06 am PST

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One thing I've learned about human nature is that more people care than you know!  I lost my husband in 1993 (suicide) and my 22 year old son February, 2004 ("accidental" suicide) and I know that it's possible to move on.  You will never forget your loved ones, you will learn to live without them and you have to do the grief "work" to get there.  When I have to describe what it feels like to have someone so dear to me, I say I imagine it is like losing an arm or a leg.. that you're terribly angry about it and miss that limb and know you will never get it back, that your life is changed forever, but eventually you learn to live with that void in your life.   Someone in grief counseling once told me "your life will never be the same but it WILL be good again".  I've held onto that hope each and every day, some days ARE better than others.    There are some wonderful grief and loss groups online that you may find comfort in.  I don't have the websites saved on my work computer but I do at home.  I'll try to post them for you over the weekend. 

  

My heart truly goes out to you now and through the coming holidays.   

Here are a few good websites that may be helpful.   

  

http://www.widownet.com/ 

http://www.beyondindigo.com/ 

http://www.webhealing.com/ 

  

  

Keep me posted on your progress through the holidays.  

 
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December 3, 2005, 9:14 am PST

Sudden death

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it been 11years the pain that she gone life forever. she 14 when she die the last thing she said i love you mom. i hurt so much aroud hoilday not have her there .they it git easier when?

When we lose a child, a part of our heart dies with them.  She can't be gone forever if she lives in your heart.  There is a group called Compassionate Friends for parents who have lost children.  There may be a group in your area.  It helps to be with people who share your pain, and the more you tell your story the better it will feel.  Celebrate your daughter's short life by sharing her with other people.   

  

I'd like to hear more about her.  What was her first name?  What color was her hair and eyes?  Did she have any hobbies?  Was she a typical 14 year old girl who would change clothes 10 times a day and talk on the phone forever???  I hope these memories make you smile, and I really do hope you'll share them. 

  

Thinking of you. 

 
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December 3, 2005, 4:59 pm PST

More people Understand than you know

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I know that this is not a big deal to some of you, while some of you will know exactly what I'm talking about.  My boyfriend and I have recently have lost our cat that we had since he was 4 weeks old.  He would've been 7 (in human years), 49 (in cat or dog years).  We showered him with so much attention for so many years and now he's gone.  This cat was just like our kid or something.  Bootsie was his name and he lived with us since we moved in together.  That cat had such strong human qualities it was crazy.  We both feel the void and such emptiness now in the home without him.  It has been 3 weeks since his dissappearance and we both agree that we should not get another pet at this point, not until we're over the grief.  I know that I'm rambling about him.  I just don't know how we're ever going to be able to get another pet when we felt so strongly about Bootsie and now we're just lost.  I know that some ppl may think this weird, so I just want some words of advice from all the animal lovers out there who understand.  Thanks
Remember all the people who refused to leave their pets in New Orleans...and those that were forced to and couldn't rest until they were found.  The love that we feel for our pets and that we know they give to us is a precious gift in our lives and should be honored.  I keep a garden near my house where I put a plaque for each animal that I lose.  There is a large plate in the middle with this saying, "If tears could build a Highway and Memories a Lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again."  I tend to my garden lovingling and put little statues of animals in it as I find ones that touch me.  By doing this I honor the memory of each life that touched my soul so profoundly.  I know that you can never replace the cat that you lost, but I believe that the best way to honor his memory is to rescue another.  They will not fill that hollow place in your heart.  They will borrow themselves into a new place all their own.  Find a way to create a remembrance for your lost cat as well.  A picture in a special frame, a candle to burn when you are thinking of him.  I have found that this helps me feel peace.  Even as I write this I stop to look at the pictures of my animals on my shelves and walls...Sweet Missy...feisty Elsa...Tiny Tina...Francis and Anthony.  I can't believe how many wonderful pets I have waiting for me to join them someday.   Your ability to love so completely speaks highly of you...thank you for sharing your grief. 
 
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December 5, 2005, 4:39 pm PST

I'm not sure what I'm feeling...

I hope my posting here doesn't upset people...it's just that, well I ended a relationship in August...it had been six years of trauma and anxiety, emotional abuse and constant self esteem erosion...with all that said, there were good times too...he has a daughter. I was with her from the time she was six years old.  I was the only stable female in her life...she was mine for all intents and purposes.  When the relationship ended this summer we said that we would still speak and he told me that I could still see his daughter...we both knew it would be hard for her, and we didn't want to traumatize her any more than necessary.  Then he decided that no contact was "best". He just took her away from me, no good byes, no closure, nothing. Just gone. It's like they died.  I am in a wonderful relationship now with a very supportive man. He is so wonderful...he has two kids and one of them is a girl...she is six.  Everytime I look at her I feel guilt and a terrible ache.  I feel a grief so strong, it hurts so terribly.  I miss them, both.   

  

how stupid am I?  I know it's normal to miss her...is it normal to miss a man who was emotionally cold and abusive, and sometimes physically agressive?  What am I missing? I am with a wonderful amazing man...why do I miss them? Why does this hurt so much?  My birthday was Saturday. My fiance was so great to me, he had all these plans and all I could do was cry. I felt so sad inside.  WHY?!  My ex usually completely ignored my birthday. One year he didn't even speak to me.   

  

I am aching inside.  Any advice would be appreciated.  thanks 

  

kady 

 

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