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Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.

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January 18, 2006, 10:43 am PST

loss of son in car accident

Hi:  It has been a little over five years and it seems like yesterday.  My son "my 23 year old baby" was a profile in courage to many people and an inspiration to many many more. 

You see, he was a quiet child and an outsider because of his autism.  Kids would call him names, spit on him, there was never a seat on the schoolbus for him.  But to know him, these mean people would have loved him. 

Diagnosed at Boston hospital, and receiving weekly counselling, therapy, and all the love we could give to a child.  Handsome, like the boy on Dr. Phil's show yesterday.  In fact, I literally bawled all night thinking of Neill and how like him this boy was. 

My husband has been a great support but he was at scene of accident 5 minutes after it happened on our little dirt road.  I could hear the ambulance sires, I called hospital and police station and they put me on hold.  When the police r=finally came to our door with the devastating news, no words could be said of that final painful moment. I think my heart just cracked in two. 

Our son graduated high school, and at time of accident, has enrolled for more courses at the community college, and also after 2 tries, got a license.  He was just a careful driver.  He worked part time at a market and was just the first smiling face when you went into produce. 

I think it's because the guys his age didn't understand him, that he got into a truck with a much younger and inexperienced driver who got into a dangerous situation from going too fast.  We always encouraged our children to buckle up, but in this instance the police said it could have saved his life if he wasn't buckled (ironic, huh). 

Someday the pain will subside, but what to do in the meantime. 

 
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January 18, 2006, 11:03 am PST

Overcoming Grief

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Hi everyone.  I am 30 years old, mother of 2.  My mom passed away December 6th, 2005.   I have my good days and my bad dealing with this.   I miss her so much.  I haven't been sleeping well, my son (he's 9) had a terrible time with this a couple weeks ago (he seems to be getting much better).  He wrote a beautiful card to her when she was in a coma on life support and read it to her in front of others who were in the room at the time and had everyone bawling.  It was such a dear letter, the words seemed much older than his age.  I will share it another time.   Anyway, my husband has been a huge support to me during the time she was in the hospital and the funeral.  I don't know what I would've done without him.  He also took on all the expenses, as my parents hadn't planned for anything, no insurance, nothing.   In a sense, I fell in love with him even more deeply just watching him take care of things and ME without hesitation.  Now things are back to normal at home, but I'm feeling like I'm starting to slip into a depression.  How do you handle not having a mom anymore????   I feel lost.  She was the one person I could turn to or call on at any time with any thing.   She loved me, flaws and all.  I sensed this was coming, but I had no idea when.  She had to be hospitalized in May and after that she would say the wierdest things to me out of the blue.  She would apologize for things in the past, that sort of thing.  It would come out of the blue, at random.  I would come away thinking what was that all about????  Now I know.   I am only 30, she was 64, I shouldn't have lost her this soon.  She had gained so much weight from the congestive heart failure and massive amounts of steroids they had her on.  She had aged dramatically in the last couple years.  My daughter will never know her grandma as my son did.  That makes me sad.   Everyone kept telling me oh she's in a better place now and I know they all meant well but I wanted to scream!!!  I know I'm being selfish, of coarse she's in a better place, but I want her here with me.  And knowing she's in a better place doesn't make me miss her any less.  I know everyone meant well but after 50 people say the same thing to you I wanted to smack someone.  That sounds awful I know.  And my best friends, I have 2, have gone on hiatus apparently.   So I just don't know who to turn to, sorry for the long post and thanks for listening. 

Hi Liz Marie: 

I read your message just after I wrote my own.    I lost my mom when I was 32/she was72.  Youngest of 15 children myself.  I understand your loss.  There are so many times that you want to just drop everything and call and say "guess what happened today".  For a while it seems strange. 

My mom had congestive heart failure too.  Not easy.  One day at a time.  Go with your feelings and don't be afraid if no one understands.  You have to feel what you feel. 

I think the talking of the past with her might have been a type of "venting"- you know, remembering, and wanting you to understand and remember along with her. It happens to people in this situation, and maybe it was her love for you that she was preparing you for what lies ahead.  

Don't it just irritate when people say the same things over and over.  They really don't know what to say.  And when they say I understand.  Unless you've been there, you can't really understand, right. 

As for friends, they are at a loss.  But cling to the precious children you mentioned and the loving man who is carrying you through this difficult time.  Teach them, tell them, love them, bring their granmother to their hearts on a regular basis.  You can do it eventually, just do it slowly, at your pace.  I firmly believe this to be true. 

 
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January 18, 2006, 5:26 pm PST

Hi again Christy

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Dear Chikara1, 

Thank you for taking the time to read my story and for your kind words. It means so much to me to have someone read about my son and to know that people care. He was a wonderful young man. He never complained and was always telling me everything would be fine and he was going to beat it. That was his attitude even at the end.  I am so thrilled that your niece is doing well. I love hearing success stories.  Please tell your sister that I will keep her and your niece in my prayers and you too.  Thank you again for your caring and support. 

  

Christy 

  

  

Christy, it was so obvious how much you love Nick. I'm sure St. Jude's gave you lots of resources but I thought I'd share this one with you.  It has a Memorial Wall for people to honor their loved ones who fought against leukemia and other blood cancers. The home page is at https://www.maxaid.org/Default.aspx?trgt=home  

  

I wish that there weren't so many kids to write about on that Memorial Wall. For the sake of all those children, and for your Nick, I pray that the Memorial Wall will one day be a relic of the days before a cure. 

  

Lots of love to you and your family. 

 
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January 19, 2006, 2:23 pm PST

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I don't know if feeling lost comes here anymore to read.  

Odd how I picked the name reallylost.  

  

My husband recently commit suicide also. My life & world make no sense at all anymore.  

I walk around in my body but nothing feels real anymore. .....only the pain. My mind spins so fast. 

I do not blame myself. I understand it was his choice. But, I can get so lost in the empathy of how he was feeling & takes me deep in that pain. That part of it makes me think & re-think anything that I could have done differently to help him. I think the answer is no.  

When my mind can leave the pain he was feeling alone...it brings me back to my pain & trying to cope with it. It's too horrific. Totally reality has not set in for me yet. A place in my mind just can't comprehend how or why he could do this. We loved eachother. We were best friends. It was other stuff. But how could he do this & leave me with all this pain.  

Everyday I want to join him. Everyday I am exhausted with coping. I haven't found that one thing yet that makes me want to hang on.  

I could write a book on all the I feel. All that I fear. But I just don't even have the energy to try & think.  

Your message really caught my heart. I also feel the pain you feel. I lost my daughter to suicide 3-16-2004. I always wonder what I could have did to keep her alive. Right now I sit at this computer trying to find answers to the questions I have no idea I'm  asking. I just to want to know when this pain will go away. Or if it ever will. I have to try to find a way to keep going I have 3 more children to help thru their lose. Sometimes I feel like I have to fake it till I make it. And sometimes I wonder where I'm going to to make it. I'm so sorry for your lose and the pain you are going thru. I hope you find the strenght in you to keep going. 

 
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January 20, 2006, 10:04 am PST

In Shock

 This is the first time I have ever posted anything but I'm beginning to wonder were else to go were others would understand what I'm going through.  Last night I got a phone call telling me that my dear friend of many years took his life. Earlier this week he had committed himself because he knew he needed and wanted help but yesterday when they released him from the hospital it wasn't but a few hours later that he was found. I'm not angry with him, he had been fighting his own inner demons his whole life, I just hope that he has finally got peace  It's been only a few hours since I found out and it's a lot easier then it was right after I was told, but now I feel numb...like I'm walking through a fog. I've never dealt with death before and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to act or feel.  It's surreal to me.  The main thing I'm dealing with right now is that I still have a few more calls to make to let friends know what happened and it tears me apart every time I've had to tell someone. I'm not trying to think about what he did but the memories that I have him, I'm afraid that if I don't I'll forget them.  I'm still a little rattled so forgive me if I sound like I'm rambling but thank you for taking the time to read what I have said.
 
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January 20, 2006, 2:10 pm PST

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 This is the first time I have ever posted anything but I'm beginning to wonder were else to go were others would understand what I'm going through.  Last night I got a phone call telling me that my dear friend of many years took his life. Earlier this week he had committed himself because he knew he needed and wanted help but yesterday when they released him from the hospital it wasn't but a few hours later that he was found. I'm not angry with him, he had been fighting his own inner demons his whole life, I just hope that he has finally got peace  It's been only a few hours since I found out and it's a lot easier then it was right after I was told, but now I feel numb...like I'm walking through a fog. I've never dealt with death before and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to act or feel.  It's surreal to me.  The main thing I'm dealing with right now is that I still have a few more calls to make to let friends know what happened and it tears me apart every time I've had to tell someone. I'm not trying to think about what he did but the memories that I have him, I'm afraid that if I don't I'll forget them.  I'm still a little rattled so forgive me if I sound like I'm rambling but thank you for taking the time to read what I have said.
I am so sorry to hear a about  your friend. I know how you feel. I lost my daughter to suicide last year. She also fought the demons most of her short life( she was 23 yrs old.)  Sometimes they just get tired. I do believe that our loved ones are now at peace and suffer no more. We have to remember that we were very lucky to have been part of their lives and lucky to have known and loved them. I cherish every moment and memory I had with my daughter. I Hope you can do the same for your friend. I wish you well! I hope to hear how you are doing soon.       Linda
 

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January 20, 2006, 2:16 pm PST

loosing a loved one

I'm not sure what it is that i'm supposed write in here but i just felt a need to come and see and express myself about loosing a loved one. I'm a woman who's life was completely turned upside down a year and a half ago, loosing the love of my life in a way that still to this day seems so unimaginable. My soul-mate of a year and half had comitted suicide.It happened on a friday the 13th and the morning it happened we had an arguement concerning money and i left the house angry. He asked me where i was going and i was so angry that i simply said.."i dont know...I just don't know" and slammed the door behind me. I was not gone long(1 and half hours) and when i came home, after going to the public library to use the internet, I came back to find that he had hung himself. I have not been the same since that day. To this day there are foods i cant eat because he liked it , there are songs i cant listen too because it reminded me of us or him . I try to go on with my life and everyday it seems so hard to wake up without him and to lay alone everynight without him has been so hard. it has been only a little under a month that i have stopped crying every single day, everyday i cried, on the bus, at school, watching tv and at night when i go to sleep, that was how i would fall asleep. I don't cry everyday but it comes close. 

 I just can't seem to understand why? He left me no note or any clue.Did i say something , did i do something, what? and still i cant figure out why he left us. I feel like he gave up and he didn't love me or he loved me too much. Why me? Why did he feel like there was no way out. We were going to be ok, and the guilt of leaving that morning it is heavy to bear sometimes. People tell me "it's not your fault" but how am i supposed to believe that when i feel that i should have never left that morning. The worst part is that we barely faught in the year and a half we had been together, i can count on one hand the fighst we had. He was my absolute best friend and we did everything together. We were inseperable, the only time we were apart is whe i was in school and he would walk me to school and come get me after. We laughed together at the same silly things and we heard each other without saying a word. A simple look was all it took. I could never ask for more in a person than him. I was blessed our paths met and forever gratleful to have known him. 

We met the day before mothers day, two months after we moved in together, two months later we were engaged and he brought me to meet his family in Trinidad. We planned to move to Trinidad and grow old there. We knew we were meant to be together and there was nothing or nobody that could tear us apart. He was my knight in shinning armour and I knew he was the one.  

Just that week before his passing , we talked about getting married that summer in his homeland of Trinidad and we were to surprise his family and pay for their tickets to come. We were having money problems and it was going to be fine the following week (we were both going to recieve money), i know he always told people i was his backbone and without me he was nothing, and he alwasy told me that he loved me more than words can say. I loved this man more than anyhting i had ever loved before and my whole life i waited to meet a man like him and to have met him, loved him to have shared a life together is something i will cherish for the rest of my life.  

its been a long hard struggle every single day. I battled with thoughts of suicide on more than one occassion and yet i am still here. I don't know how some people do it but i want to say i am proud of u if your reading this and feeling what i am. I miss hearing that and "I love you". Sometimes it just feels good to hear. 

 
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January 20, 2006, 3:09 pm PST

we are suicide survivors

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I'm not sure what it is that i'm supposed write in here but i just felt a need to come and see and express myself about loosing a loved one. I'm a woman who's life was completely turned upside down a year and a half ago, loosing the love of my life in a way that still to this day seems so unimaginable. My soul-mate of a year and half had comitted suicide.It happened on a friday the 13th and the morning it happened we had an arguement concerning money and i left the house angry. He asked me where i was going and i was so angry that i simply said.."i dont know...I just don't know" and slammed the door behind me. I was not gone long(1 and half hours) and when i came home, after going to the public library to use the internet, I came back to find that he had hung himself. I have not been the same since that day. To this day there are foods i cant eat because he liked it , there are songs i cant listen too because it reminded me of us or him . I try to go on with my life and everyday it seems so hard to wake up without him and to lay alone everynight without him has been so hard. it has been only a little under a month that i have stopped crying every single day, everyday i cried, on the bus, at school, watching tv and at night when i go to sleep, that was how i would fall asleep. I don't cry everyday but it comes close. 

 I just can't seem to understand why? He left me no note or any clue.Did i say something , did i do something, what? and still i cant figure out why he left us. I feel like he gave up and he didn't love me or he loved me too much. Why me? Why did he feel like there was no way out. We were going to be ok, and the guilt of leaving that morning it is heavy to bear sometimes. People tell me "it's not your fault" but how am i supposed to believe that when i feel that i should have never left that morning. The worst part is that we barely faught in the year and a half we had been together, i can count on one hand the fighst we had. He was my absolute best friend and we did everything together. We were inseperable, the only time we were apart is whe i was in school and he would walk me to school and come get me after. We laughed together at the same silly things and we heard each other without saying a word. A simple look was all it took. I could never ask for more in a person than him. I was blessed our paths met and forever gratleful to have known him. 

We met the day before mothers day, two months after we moved in together, two months later we were engaged and he brought me to meet his family in Trinidad. We planned to move to Trinidad and grow old there. We knew we were meant to be together and there was nothing or nobody that could tear us apart. He was my knight in shinning armour and I knew he was the one.  

Just that week before his passing , we talked about getting married that summer in his homeland of Trinidad and we were to surprise his family and pay for their tickets to come. We were having money problems and it was going to be fine the following week (we were both going to recieve money), i know he always told people i was his backbone and without me he was nothing, and he alwasy told me that he loved me more than words can say. I loved this man more than anyhting i had ever loved before and my whole life i waited to meet a man like him and to have met him, loved him to have shared a life together is something i will cherish for the rest of my life.  

its been a long hard struggle every single day. I battled with thoughts of suicide on more than one occassion and yet i am still here. I don't know how some people do it but i want to say i am proud of u if your reading this and feeling what i am. I miss hearing that and "I love you". Sometimes it just feels good to hear. 

I really trying to get the words out on how I feel because like you it is so difficult to put our grief into words. I can't say I know how you feel cause I didn't lose my partner. I lost my daughter to suicide. She was having problems in her marrige and wanted a divorce from her husband. She called me and asked me to come up to Washington and help her I am from Oregon and I couldn't go because I have a 15 yr old son who is bipolar and was acting out. So I told her I couldn't come. 3 months later she was dead. I have beaten myself up over and over about my decision. I have did the if only so many times. It has been 2 years now. Now I try to be thankful that I had her in my life. Because like you I can't understand how she could have done this. Everybody has their reasons I guess. She also left behind 3 children. The pain that is left after someone commits suicide is sometimes unbearable at times. I took some advice from some one once and he said that our loved ones are now at peace and they have candles lit in heaven when they go out to play and our crying and sorrow sometimes put out their candles. I have to think that my daughter didn't mean to make me so sad. I got help thru and organization called the Survivors of Suicide because that is what we are. 

I hope you can find some peace in you grief. My prayers are with you.   

 
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January 20, 2006, 5:07 pm PST

Overcoming Grief

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I am so sorry to hear a about  your friend. I know how you feel. I lost my daughter to suicide last year. She also fought the demons most of her short life( she was 23 yrs old.)  Sometimes they just get tired. I do believe that our loved ones are now at peace and suffer no more. We have to remember that we were very lucky to have been part of their lives and lucky to have known and loved them. I cherish every moment and memory I had with my daughter. I Hope you can do the same for your friend. I wish you well! I hope to hear how you are doing soon.       Linda

Thank you Linda. Oh my Gosh I am so sorry about your daughter, my friend had just turned 31...its hard to grasp that they are so young and hurts at the same time that they hurt this much and there was nothing that can be done. I have to agree with you, I do think that they get so tired of fighting to be happy that there is no fight left in them.  This has been a lot harder than I thought.  Everytime I've called one of his close friends to tell them I have to hear them break down and just breaks my heart even more. The funeral is tomorrow and I'm having a hard time deciding on going to the visitation, I want to be able to keep the memories I have him the way they are and not have the memory of seeing him like this. Am I going to go to the funeral though, I don't want to regret later than I decided against going. Thank you for responding, it helps a lot to know that someone understands how I feel. I am more grateful for you reading this than you can imagine.    Jessica 

 
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January 20, 2006, 8:14 pm PST

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Hi Liz Marie: 

I read your message just after I wrote my own.    I lost my mom when I was 32/she was72.  Youngest of 15 children myself.  I understand your loss.  There are so many times that you want to just drop everything and call and say "guess what happened today".  For a while it seems strange. 

My mom had congestive heart failure too.  Not easy.  One day at a time.  Go with your feelings and don't be afraid if no one understands.  You have to feel what you feel. 

I think the talking of the past with her might have been a type of "venting"- you know, remembering, and wanting you to understand and remember along with her. It happens to people in this situation, and maybe it was her love for you that she was preparing you for what lies ahead.  

Don't it just irritate when people say the same things over and over.  They really don't know what to say.  And when they say I understand.  Unless you've been there, you can't really understand, right. 

As for friends, they are at a loss.  But cling to the precious children you mentioned and the loving man who is carrying you through this difficult time.  Teach them, tell them, love them, bring their granmother to their hearts on a regular basis.  You can do it eventually, just do it slowly, at your pace.  I firmly believe this to be true. 

Thank you so much for your reply to my post.  This has been a difficult time, it's really a roller coaster right now.  One day I'm fine and the next I'm either snapping at people or I'm crying.  I look back and think of times where I could've been a better daugher.   My biggest worry is did she know how much I loved her?  Since I didn't get to her before she went into a coma (though I talked to her for days while she was in a coma and on life support, and the doctor, Miss Congeniality, came in and said I don't know why you're doing that, she can't hear you!!!!!), I just wish I could've spoken to her one last time while she was still conscious.......though I think she could hear me, her body had failed but her spirit was still there.  Anyway, I am trying and I know what you're saying about friends not knowing what to say, but Friend #1 has a whole different issue.   Long story short, she told me she couldn't attend the funeral due to an appt. for a cleaning (dentist).  I was hurt but I did not say anything.  Then was not the time for that.  So the rest of the time I was dealing with funeral arrangements, family, flowers, the minister, etc. etc.  When I got home I went into hibernation for about a week.  I did not want to talk to anyone, just wanted to be left alone.  So.......she emails me a real sweet little note saying how she has prayed and prayed on how to "deal with me" on this and that why didn't I call her, she had changed plans and was going to come (I'm not a mind reader and SHE could've called me) and how much I've hurt her, blah blah blah.  Oh I cried for about a day over that nonsense.  Then I got really pi$$ed.  How dare she make this about her!  And so since then we barely speak, maybe once every week and a half.....we used to be very close but she's done these types of things to me before.  She also made the comment at the hospital to me that my mom made her choices......I guess implying she deserved to die???  Well anyway, so I don't think it's so much that she doesn't know what to say......it's that she doesn't know when to SHUT UP.  Okay I'm down off my soap box now.  Thanks so much for listening to me ramble, it really is therapeutic.  Though you probably need an Advil by now....... Faint 





 
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