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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 04:53:58 pm
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Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.

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January 21, 2006, 11:00 am PST

to live and to die...

Hi everyone. First of all I want to express my sincere prayers for all of you that have lost loved ones and my wishes that things will began gettin better and making sense again..... 2005 changed my life...not only was I dealing w/a newborn, but I lost 6 loved ones in that year alone. 2 of my aunts (rather young, 45 and 50) passed very suddenly and unexpecdly from blood clots....one of my aunts i was very close to and lived with her during my teen years (im only 20 now) the other i was close to aswell but it's been harder b/c her daughter is my age and my best (cousin) friend and i've been tryin to help her deal w/it and it's so painful as well....then my grandmother passed in oct who IS my best friend....my other gma passed ealry in april....and 2 of my friends died...one in a stabbing (he was my age) and the other in a car wreck (my age as well)>.....i don't know how i am supposed to heal from all of this??? I go to therapy and have talked to my pastor and all....I had extreme panic attacks and lost my job over it and all....I'm just in a state now that i odn't care.....im like "what else can go wrong" or "who's gonna drop dead next" or "what's the point of life...we are all just gonna die"......death has hit me very realisticly this past year and I thought I'd try to see if anyone could relate?   

Thanx for listin!!:)  best wishes to all. 

  

(ps...in my life i've also lost 2 uncles...one i was the only one w/him when he passed from cancer...the other was only 33 from apendix rupturing; i lost a 19yr old friend from a motorcycle accident in 2002; a teacher in 2002 and a lady friend from my church in 2003 very unexpexidly) 

DOES IT EVER TAKE A BREAK>??? 

 
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January 21, 2006, 5:29 pm PST

Ok to grieve!

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Thank you so much for your reply to my post.  This has been a difficult time, it's really a roller coaster right now.  One day I'm fine and the next I'm either snapping at people or I'm crying.  I look back and think of times where I could've been a better daugher.   My biggest worry is did she know how much I loved her?  Since I didn't get to her before she went into a coma (though I talked to her for days while she was in a coma and on life support, and the doctor, Miss Congeniality, came in and said I don't know why you're doing that, she can't hear you!!!!!), I just wish I could've spoken to her one last time while she was still conscious.......though I think she could hear me, her body had failed but her spirit was still there.  Anyway, I am trying and I know what you're saying about friends not knowing what to say, but Friend #1 has a whole different issue.   Long story short, she told me she couldn't attend the funeral due to an appt. for a cleaning (dentist).  I was hurt but I did not say anything.  Then was not the time for that.  So the rest of the time I was dealing with funeral arrangements, family, flowers, the minister, etc. etc.  When I got home I went into hibernation for about a week.  I did not want to talk to anyone, just wanted to be left alone.  So.......she emails me a real sweet little note saying how she has prayed and prayed on how to "deal with me" on this and that why didn't I call her, she had changed plans and was going to come (I'm not a mind reader and SHE could've called me) and how much I've hurt her, blah blah blah.  Oh I cried for about a day over that nonsense.  Then I got really pi$$ed.  How dare she make this about her!  And so since then we barely speak, maybe once every week and a half.....we used to be very close but she's done these types of things to me before.  She also made the comment at the hospital to me that my mom made her choices......I guess implying she deserved to die???  Well anyway, so I don't think it's so much that she doesn't know what to say......it's that she doesn't know when to SHUT UP.  Okay I'm down off my soap box now.  Thanks so much for listening to me ramble, it really is therapeutic.  Though you probably need an Advil by now....... Faint 





I read your message, and understand your grief.  I was very close to my dad. He died 11 years ago. I know that seems like a long time ago, but I still grieve for him at times. It gets easier, and you get to where you think you don't need to grieve anymore. And you do ok. But, occasionally I give myself permission to grieve, to really cry if I need to. And I talk to him at times.  I was with my dad when he took his last breath, and I occasionally think, maybe I could've help him stay alive. But, for what! He was in his last day of lukemia, bleeding profusely.  So, as the song goes "If you could see me now, you wouldn't want me to come back" .  I cry now, for I know and feel your pain. I always feel my dad is with me, I can feel him, I can feel his love that he had for me. I feel he forgives me for the times I wasn't the best daughter.  Hang in there, my prayers are with you. 

Daffy 

 
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January 22, 2006, 9:01 am PST

my grieving son

i don't know if anyone can help. my son is 29 and his father committed suicide in july 2005. he still can't get over it. he blames himself for his fathers death. you see his dad put a shot gun to his head and pulled the trigger.  we had to have a closed casket and he never got to say goodby or hold his fathers hand. i had him in counseling but he said it dosn't help. i am trying to find one in our area who counsels in suicide to no avail. i am so fearfull for my son, i don't know what to do. he is very angry at his father for doing this to him, that he can't forgive him. i told him that his father was sick and it wasn't his fault. i also told him he has to let go of the anger so he can forgive his dad to be able to move on with his life. you see he is pushing everyone away who is trying to help him, including his wife and kids. my daughter in law dosen't  know what to do either. if she says anything he just starts yelling at her and tells her that she doesn't care. we all care. i am ao afraid for my son to see him this way it scares me to death. i don't  know where to turn! i am afraid what he might do! his whole life has been turned upside down and as his mother i can't help him. someone please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
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January 22, 2006, 4:06 pm PST

My story

Hi,
I usually write on the a different board... But I figured that if anyone had any ideas...
On January 17 2005 a friend of mine (Very loving, strong, pentacostal christian woman) lost her 10yr old son in a house fire...
I haven't talked to her since March 2005 and I just don't know how to keep in touch... or to try and get back in touch with her now... I'm a "new christian" (3yrs) and not very good at the praying for a person thing..... and well.... just not sure how I can be a friend to her.... how I can help....
I have never delt with the childs death and the "loss" of a friend... It is on my mind almost everyday  

 
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January 22, 2006, 4:56 pm PST

That is a tough one

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Hi,
I usually write on the a different board... But I figured that if anyone had any ideas...
On January 17 2005 a friend of mine (Very loving, strong, pentacostal christian woman) lost her 10yr old son in a house fire...
I haven't talked to her since March 2005 and I just don't know how to keep in touch... or to try and get back in touch with her now... I'm a "new christian" (3yrs) and not very good at the praying for a person thing..... and well.... just not sure how I can be a friend to her.... how I can help....
I have never delt with the childs death and the "loss" of a friend... It is on my mind almost everyday  

Maybe just call her and say "I've been thinking about you so much lately, how you doing?" If conversation doesn't just flow maybe let her know some things that have been going on with you & maybe it will be like you have talked to her every week since the accident or maybe she is just in need of a friend (especially with the date just passing) and talking to you may be the answer to her prayers. No matter what, Good Luck. It sounds like you miss her.
 
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January 22, 2006, 8:38 pm PST

Maybe?????????

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i don't know if anyone can help. my son is 29 and his father committed suicide in july 2005. he still can't get over it. he blames himself for his fathers death. you see his dad put a shot gun to his head and pulled the trigger.  we had to have a closed casket and he never got to say goodby or hold his fathers hand. i had him in counseling but he said it dosn't help. i am trying to find one in our area who counsels in suicide to no avail. i am so fearfull for my son, i don't know what to do. he is very angry at his father for doing this to him, that he can't forgive him. i told him that his father was sick and it wasn't his fault. i also told him he has to let go of the anger so he can forgive his dad to be able to move on with his life. you see he is pushing everyone away who is trying to help him, including his wife and kids. my daughter in law dosen't  know what to do either. if she says anything he just starts yelling at her and tells her that she doesn't care. we all care. i am ao afraid for my son to see him this way it scares me to death. i don't  know where to turn! i am afraid what he might do! his whole life has been turned upside down and as his mother i can't help him. someone please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I dont think you can help him and this i say because i lost my brother to suicide in 1997 he hung himself in my garage, my father to suicide in July 2004 after a long bout with bone cancer and my mother to suicide in November 2005, so you see I can understand his pain, and you never will. 
I am a 32 year old mother of two beautiful girls, one 12 and the other 4, and had i not had them i dont know where my strength would come from, and i would never want them to have my pain.  You have to understand that I too cannot forgive either my brother nor my mother.  HOW dare they do this to me and my children and for you to tell him that his father was sick just doesnt cut it, because that is your son and his son and parents are to love their children above all and fight with all their strength and inner will to survive and thrive. 

  

You cannot tell him to let go of the anger because you dont understand his anger.  Everytime he looks at his children i am sure he thinks of the things that his father will miss, things that when he did them and accomplished them his father was there, and that kills him.  His wife unfortunately is just there, and she doesnt care in his eyes because she isnt where he is in the grief process. I am sure that in her way she so loves him and wishes to help him, and i cant imagine what it must be like to be on the receiving end of so much hatred.  And that is what you need to understand is that he hates her, if he is anything like me with my spouse, because his life in my eyes is perfect because he isnt in my stage of pain. 

  

I am lucky because on a good day i know that the man i am with is here because of love, otherwise he would be long gone.  You see i met him the first day of kindergarten and fell in love that day.  I cant imagine a day without him, however, i hate him to the core, because he has this perfect life because he has never felt the pain that i have.  the one thing i have as a constant is work and even that i abuse by working hours upon hours in a day. 

  

You need to quit telling him how to feel, let him tell you how he feels, he will come to terms with what has happened but you as his mother cannot save him from this. As mothers we try to ease our childrens pain and that is natural, but i am telling you to back off with that, his feelings are valid and you have to give him that respect to feel them.  you can as a mother help him in the way of being there and to help his wife keep her sanity, give him all the space in the world, but connect with her and the children, try to help them understand that time will heal all but that you cannot determine the time limit it takes.  Talk about the good times only with your grandchildren, dont mention the bad, and in confidance tell your daughter in law that it will get better as soon as he realizes that he had zero control over his dads decision. 

  

I would love to be able to talk to someome who feels all of the resentment and anger that i do right now, but maybe he is not ready to share,  but i am also a mother and i would love to help you get through this so you can in turn help your grandbabies make it through. 

  

Time heals all wounds just remeber that not everyone is in the same time zone that you are!!!!!!!!! 

 
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January 23, 2006, 8:44 am PST

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Hi,
I usually write on the a different board... But I figured that if anyone had any ideas...
On January 17 2005 a friend of mine (Very loving, strong, pentacostal christian woman) lost her 10yr old son in a house fire...
I haven't talked to her since March 2005 and I just don't know how to keep in touch... or to try and get back in touch with her now... I'm a "new christian" (3yrs) and not very good at the praying for a person thing..... and well.... just not sure how I can be a friend to her.... how I can help....
I have never delt with the childs death and the "loss" of a friend... It is on my mind almost everyday  

I am a mom who lost my daughter in March 2004. It is really nice to read your message. Since I have lost my daughter it seems like I have no friends. I had lots of friends before this happened to my family. Now we are so lonely.  I would like to get back to the normal where people called just to say "Hi". I don' t know if that will ever happen. It seems like my friends are scared like you are. Just remember we have never had to deal with the loss of a child either and now we have to deal with the loss of our friends also. I don't call my friends because I don't feel like they want to be burdened with how I feel. This makes for a very lonely life. Right now I am trying to learn how to be happy so I can get back out in the world. Its not easy. I hope you call your friend and God Bless you for caring.
 
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January 23, 2006, 10:39 am PST

Beyond Ireland

My dream is to be able to dream, again. March 16th, 2005, I realized my dreams.The birth of Ireland Leigh Ann.My hopes,my life,my world, my daughter,my dreams. I dreampt of what life would be like.not just as her mother, not just of her life, but of everyone's life who she would touch. A sister, a niece, and a grand-daughter.She was adored by all. Mostly my dreams were of what she would become. How she would fit into our family,her brothers would become protective,her dad would become her hero, and she would become the steps I would no longer take after I was gone.Three weeks into Ireland's life. Just three weeks is all I held her for. Meningitis stopped my little girl's heart on April 6th, 2005. When her heart stopped my dreams disappeared. There was no more wondering when she would take her first step, or enjoy her first kiss, no more dreaming of what she would become,no more hope.I still get up each day and hold my boys. I still wonder what they will become. I still share their excitements, and their pain. A daughter is so much different, and had I not had three weeks with her, I would not have ever known. My pain is complicated, and I can't begin to think you would understand. I am grieving as a mother who lost a child, but the pain I feel is is for the loss of a generation. A daughter I miss holding, a little girl that I can no longer stare at to find my qualities.I want the chance to dream again. I had my tubes tied when Ireland was born. Our family was complete. What I have been looking into is In Vitro Fertilization. I have the option to choose the sex, and the success rate is high. The problem is that we can not afford it.It's just a little surgery that I am asking for. But to me, it is so much more. It is my dreams,my future, my hope, my wish. Please consider blessing our family with another heartbeat. We do not want to replace Ireland. We simply want to fill the void.The emptiness a mother feels, a future she can no longer see, and the dreams that have just disappeared.Thank You Our story can be found on the following website: http://www.ireland-hendrickson.memory-of.com/about.aspx 

 
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January 23, 2006, 12:17 pm PST

Thank-You

Thank you to the ones who have given me some helpful advice...
It has definately been a "conformation" of what I have been thinking...
I will give it a try....
Thank_you again...
 
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January 23, 2006, 4:33 pm PST

Overcoming Grief

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Thank you so much for your reply to my post.  This has been a difficult time, it's really a roller coaster right now.  One day I'm fine and the next I'm either snapping at people or I'm crying.  I look back and think of times where I could've been a better daugher.   My biggest worry is did she know how much I loved her?  Since I didn't get to her before she went into a coma (though I talked to her for days while she was in a coma and on life support, and the doctor, Miss Congeniality, came in and said I don't know why you're doing that, she can't hear you!!!!!), I just wish I could've spoken to her one last time while she was still conscious.......though I think she could hear me, her body had failed but her spirit was still there.  Anyway, I am trying and I know what you're saying about friends not knowing what to say, but Friend #1 has a whole different issue.   Long story short, she told me she couldn't attend the funeral due to an appt. for a cleaning (dentist).  I was hurt but I did not say anything.  Then was not the time for that.  So the rest of the time I was dealing with funeral arrangements, family, flowers, the minister, etc. etc.  When I got home I went into hibernation for about a week.  I did not want to talk to anyone, just wanted to be left alone.  So.......she emails me a real sweet little note saying how she has prayed and prayed on how to "deal with me" on this and that why didn't I call her, she had changed plans and was going to come (I'm not a mind reader and SHE could've called me) and how much I've hurt her, blah blah blah.  Oh I cried for about a day over that nonsense.  Then I got really pi$$ed.  How dare she make this about her!  And so since then we barely speak, maybe once every week and a half.....we used to be very close but she's done these types of things to me before.  She also made the comment at the hospital to me that my mom made her choices......I guess implying she deserved to die???  Well anyway, so I don't think it's so much that she doesn't know what to say......it's that she doesn't know when to SHUT UP.  Okay I'm down off my soap box now.  Thanks so much for listening to me ramble, it really is therapeutic.  Though you probably need an Advil by now....... Faint 





Hi again:  You certainly have a full plate and I appreciate what you're going through.  I remember when my mom died.  She had come to visit me after I miscarried and that night she had heart attack.  She was kept alive in ICU for 3 days and all of us were able to visit her.  I was frightened of the whole thing but a friend said " go visit her, hold her hand, tell her you love her".  I did, and to this day no regrets.  You were there for  your mom through what seems good and bad, and though overtired staff sometimes say really thoughtless things, you can be pleased you had that conversation with her.... who says she didn't hear every word.... You cared and love her and that's good for a lifetime. 

I lost my son five years ago in an auto accident (he was a passenger, only one who didn't survive). 

Through all that I lost him ( my best friend and companion-he had special needs).  My husband just shut down and now is returning emotionally.  I lost my oldest best friend (93) just after my son was killed, and then, because I would not listen to self-absorbed "do it this way advice" from my best friend of 23 years, that friendship ended in a snap.  Know what, for a while it really hurt that there were so few people that could comfort me in my mental darkness, but now I know who can stand the test.  I am capable, I've lost a big chunk of my heart, and I still cry and mourn that loss, but someday I'll be there for someone who needs comfort and kind words.  Be strong, remain strong, and when you have to, take that much deserved "pity mood" and run with it-your body must be telling you it's okay.  Don't worry what others think!!!! 

 
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