Message Boards

Topic : Overcoming Grief

Number of Replies: 1340
New Messages This Week: 0
Last Reply On:
Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 04:53:58 pm
Author : dataimport
Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.

As of January, 2009, this message board will become "Read Only" and will be closed to further posting. Please join the NEW Dr. Phil Community to continue your discussions, personalize your message board experience, start a blog and meet new friends.

User Mood
Distressed

Message Emote
blank
April 7, 2006, 1:10 pm PDT

How to let loss the grief and anger

  I have so much anger and hate for my mother, brother, and sister-in-law.  On the 26th of Jan. I lost my dad.  He was in the hospital for 28 days, and changed his will and left nothing to my brother, so on the day of my dad funeral he had a lawyer go in and change the locks on dad's home and claims that there was no will when in fact he know and told the courts that there was no will.  I know that my dad wanted me to have his home, but now his home has to be sold.  The courts all going with my brother and giving him everything.  I do not think I will ever be able to forgive them.  As for the woman that claims to be my mother.  She is now trying to put myself and husband in jail for the way we handled my dad funeral.  Just to let you know, dad's funeral was a full military.   

  

We had gone and got a lawyer that said he would take the case, but this afternoon we got a letter from him and he is no longer going to take the case.  So I guess that my brother and mother have finally won. 

  

So now how do I ever get over the grief of not having anything of my dad's.  That hurts so much.  I hope that there is someone out there that might be able to help me. 

  

mrsjah 

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
sad
April 7, 2006, 7:42 pm PDT

Overcoming Grief

Quote From: bubspeanjo

Hello Nancy.  I am so sorry for the loss of your son.  I too lost a child to SIDS.  Our daughter Carlie died of SIDS on April 25th, 2000.  She is a twin.  Her twin brother will be starting kindergarten in about 3 weeks.  You are right, the pain does lessen, though I am having bittersweet moments with Cody starting school.  Buying school supplies for my surviving twin was exciting, but hard at the same time because I know I should be buying for 2. 

 

Where do you live?  I live in Ft Worth Texas.  Have you heard of SIDSFamilies.com?  I frequented that Yahoogroup for a long time.  I recently unsubscribed from the group because I have gotten to a better place.  It was hard for me to offer support now that life is finally getting to a stable place and the overwhelming saddness is not around as much.

 

I have also had another little girl.  She is 2 1/2, will be 3 on 11-2-05.  She was very much our healing baby and really helped our grief. 

 

I was very much into spreading SIDS Awareness and making sure that the average person knew about Back To Sleep and that SIDS cannot be prevented, but now I kind of feel like, my baby is gone, why should it be my job to make sure others try to reduce their risk to save their babies when they won't listen to me?  Do you ever feel like that? 

 

I keep in touch with a group of girls I met online in a Babies After SIDS group, and we don't talk about SIDS much at all.  We talk about our babies, but not that they died of SIDS.  I hate SIDS and I hate what the media has portrayed it out to be.  I hate that many people think SIDS is abuse or murder. 

 

What sort of relationship do you have with First Candle?  Tom Harris, the current president of First Candle was president of the Local member, the Alliance For Infant Survival, here in DFW. 

 

Well, I just wanted to say hi and let you know there is another SIDS mom that reads these boards.  I too haven't posted much so I am pretty new to this.  I hope to talk to you soon.

Hi, my name is Rosanne and I was reading some of the topics on the message boards and found your quote.  My daughter, Kylie Jewel, passed away June 24, 2004 of unknown cause.  She was 11 days old.  The doctors said they would have considered it SIDS if we had not been present at her death.  She was having some breathing troubles and we took her to  the emergency room where she went into cardiac arrest and passed away a few hours later.  They were unable to find a cause of her death.  It was probably the most devastating thing I have ever experienced.  Holding my baby as her heart stopped.  I tried going to Compassionate Friends once but never really had the chance or made the time to go again.  That one group was a really great release.   

  

I already had a daughter at the time, who is now four, and had my third daughter September 1, 2005.  We weren't planning on having another baby so soon but I guess things happen for a reason.  I have to say though, having my new baby has helped fill a hole in my heart.  She and my oldest daughter are the most amazing things in my life.  They bring me so much joy.  If I wouldn't have had my daughter Kira at the time I think I would be an absolute mess.  Knowing that I have to take care of her has kept me going.  I also feel sadness at the same time when I think about the memories we could have had with Kylie.  I don't really have anyone to talk to about this besides my husband who is wonderfully supportive.  I find memories of her dying creep into my mind every day and I fight back the tears.  I know the pain will never go away but I hope to cope better as time goes by.   

  

Thank you for letting me share my feelings with you and I hope to talk again to someone who knows!! 

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
sad
April 7, 2006, 10:54 pm PDT

death couse gread

Quote From: mrsjah1003

  I have so much anger and hate for my mother, brother, and sister-in-law.  On the 26th of Jan. I lost my dad.  He was in the hospital for 28 days, and changed his will and left nothing to my brother, so on the day of my dad funeral he had a lawyer go in and change the locks on dad's home and claims that there was no will when in fact he know and told the courts that there was no will.  I know that my dad wanted me to have his home, but now his home has to be sold.  The courts all going with my brother and giving him everything.  I do not think I will ever be able to forgive them.  As for the woman that claims to be my mother.  She is now trying to put myself and husband in jail for the way we handled my dad funeral.  Just to let you know, dad's funeral was a full military.   

  

We had gone and got a lawyer that said he would take the case, but this afternoon we got a letter from him and he is no longer going to take the case.  So I guess that my brother and mother have finally won. 

  

So now how do I ever get over the grief of not having anything of my dad's.  That hurts so much.  I hope that there is someone out there that might be able to help me. 

  

mrsjah 

my husband died 8-25-04 his mom made it out to be my falt we were not together he lived with her at the time she went home from work and he was on the couch shakeing he died 2 days latter with a bran anurisam we werent together because he loved to drank alot and we had 3 kids so i lift but we loved oneanther very much his mom was at our house with a cop to pick up a frizer she gave us 6 year ago we havent even put hem in the ground she also tried to clam hem on her taxes she told every body  how much of a bad person i was for liven her son if he could had sat up at his furianl he would have gave her a mouth full she hasnt even tryed to talk to her grandkids in 2 years so death brings the worst out in a lot of people sorry for your lose
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
sad
April 11, 2006, 10:00 am PDT

loss of my husband

my wonderful husband passed away two weeks ago today. it was completely unexpected, and is just devestating.  we were at work together, i left to run a couple of errands, and two hours later i got a phone call saying i needed to come home, and he was already gone.  he was only 43, and had just been to the doctor 4 days prior, other than pain in his back which they wanted to do surgery on to correct, he was a healthy active man, he was my best friend, he was my partner in business, he was my partner in life, we had been together for almost 9 years, and married for the lst 4 of them.  i don;t understand how or why he is gone, and what i am supposed to do with this great pain that is left.
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
hopeful
April 12, 2006, 12:46 am PDT

Understanding Grief

Quote From: sputnik56

My daughter still appears in my dreams, though not as often nor a graphically as in the first years.  Now most of the dreams are really sweet memories, not the horrors from before.  Prior to Heathers funeral, I felt she still needed me in some way & her friends certainly needed me to hold it together.  Right after the funeral I broke down & remember little else for about 3 weeks.  I do remember at one point I "knew" I could not go on any longer, the physical pain was so tremendous.  I smelled Heather in my bedroom with me and felt her spirit pass through my body.  It was like she was saying to me, yes you can go on.  So I have.  As cold hearted as it seems, the organs must be harvested immediately upon death or they are no longer viable. Heather had always said she wanted to be a donor so it wasn't that hard a decision at that point. Later when the newspapers started printing about who received her heart, that was the worst.   I wanted to find the man & rip her heart out of him. Lots of anger at that point.  The best thing you can do now for both you & your mom is to be the best daughter you can be, talk to her about Josh, listen to her talk about Josh & never ever try to act like he didn't exist.  God bless you! 

  

Denise 

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Your story helped me better understand what my father has been going through all these years.  

  

In 1994, his son (my brother) committed suicide. He was 13, almost 14 years old. I have the hardest time telling people how he died, and especially how he did it. But, since it relates to your story I will tell you...he died from a shotgun wound to the head. I was told that he died immediately. Our dad found him several hours later.  

  

I had a good cry when I read your email. I think it was a sense of relief...relief that there is someone out there who can relate to what my dad is going through, and help me better understand it. I know how I feel, how I've felt...but I'll never know what a terrible burden he must carry for having been the one to find him that way.  

  

I've always found comfort in talking to my dad, because he understands my pain better than anyone else. My mom experienced her grief differently than I did. For example, the first year was the hardest and I experienced times of extreme depression to the point that I really thought I might go crazy...you know, beyond repair crazy. In a deep conversation, my dad asked me if I ever felt like I was going crazy. I probably yelled "YES!" because I was going crazy for thinking I was going crazy and he made me feel like it was okay to feel that way. Of course, it's not okay to feel like you're going crazy and I probably should have been in therapy and on meds but I was only 16 so I didn't know! But, hearing that did somehow make me feel better.  

  

It wasn't until last year (yes, 11 years after the fact) that my dad was told he suffers from PTSD. I'm so glad he's finally seeing someone and that he finally has a name for what he's been experiencing. 

  

Anyway, I didn't set out to tell you all of that but I wanted you to understand why I am so grateful to you for sharing your story. Hopefully by this you will know, and by the blessings you recieve, and may you recieve many! 

  

Grateful Griever 

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
April 12, 2006, 2:32 am PDT

Still missing him

My partner died 5yrs ago when our daughter was only 11mths old. He commited suicide and it has just left me reeling. People say time heals all wounds but i really disagree with that saying because my wounds still feel so raw. I go through such a roller coaster of emotions where I defend him still and try to protect him from other peoples ignorance to feling so damn angry with him. How dare he take himself out of his daughters life like that how dare he miss her first birthday her first christmas her first everything who the hell said that was ok! That it was ok to let the pain win. Then I feel hurt to think that that the person I was/am so in love with was in such deep despair that he didn't know where to turn and I just thought he was feeling down. i know good old doctor phil says we choose the way we react etc but I try all the time to just be the best I can be to put what I have no control over out of my way but everytime I think oh my god I'm never ever goin to see him again, hold him again talk to him again it takes my breath away like it did when I realised he was dead 5yrs ago. It still feels so fresh. My daughter is 6yrs old now and she is growing into such a beautiful, bright wee button and I do have people who share in my joy with her but I wish with all my heart she had her father here to share in all her life too.
 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
blank
April 12, 2006, 7:12 am PDT

Overcoming Grief

Quote From: liberty4u

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Your story helped me better understand what my father has been going through all these years.  

  

In 1994, his son (my brother) committed suicide. He was 13, almost 14 years old. I have the hardest time telling people how he died, and especially how he did it. But, since it relates to your story I will tell you...he died from a shotgun wound to the head. I was told that he died immediately. Our dad found him several hours later.  

  

I had a good cry when I read your email. I think it was a sense of relief...relief that there is someone out there who can relate to what my dad is going through, and help me better understand it. I know how I feel, how I've felt...but I'll never know what a terrible burden he must carry for having been the one to find him that way.  

  

I've always found comfort in talking to my dad, because he understands my pain better than anyone else. My mom experienced her grief differently than I did. For example, the first year was the hardest and I experienced times of extreme depression to the point that I really thought I might go crazy...you know, beyond repair crazy. In a deep conversation, my dad asked me if I ever felt like I was going crazy. I probably yelled "YES!" because I was going crazy for thinking I was going crazy and he made me feel like it was okay to feel that way. Of course, it's not okay to feel like you're going crazy and I probably should have been in therapy and on meds but I was only 16 so I didn't know! But, hearing that did somehow make me feel better.  

  

It wasn't until last year (yes, 11 years after the fact) that my dad was told he suffers from PTSD. I'm so glad he's finally seeing someone and that he finally has a name for what he's been experiencing. 

  

Anyway, I didn't set out to tell you all of that but I wanted you to understand why I am so grateful to you for sharing your story. Hopefully by this you will know, and by the blessings you recieve, and may you recieve many! 

  

Grateful Griever 

Nothing good can ever come of a suicide, but if I'm able to help someone else survive that traumatic event, that's what I'll do.  There are times when I feel like telling certain people how Heather died is none of their business. Some people are just curious for sake of being curious & really don't care about the feelings of others.  Heather was a gun shot, small caliber hand gun, to the head however she lingered 2.5 days in the hospital. I can't imagine how your dad feels being the one to find his son in that condition. My sister found Heather & some people from the church cleaned up her bedroom before I returned home. That was a blessing for me, but awful for sis.  I'm glad to hear you talk to your dad because it is important for you BOTH to discuss you feelings & not try to pretend nothing happened.   I really believe talking to people about these events is the best therapy any of us can have.  Please feel free to discuss whatever you feel like on the board, or if you'd rather...email me.  It's in my profile.  Prayers for you & your family. 

  

Denise 

 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
blank
April 12, 2006, 7:22 am PDT

Overcoming Grief

Quote From: poppet

My partner died 5yrs ago when our daughter was only 11mths old. He commited suicide and it has just left me reeling. People say time heals all wounds but i really disagree with that saying because my wounds still feel so raw. I go through such a roller coaster of emotions where I defend him still and try to protect him from other peoples ignorance to feling so damn angry with him. How dare he take himself out of his daughters life like that how dare he miss her first birthday her first christmas her first everything who the hell said that was ok! That it was ok to let the pain win. Then I feel hurt to think that that the person I was/am so in love with was in such deep despair that he didn't know where to turn and I just thought he was feeling down. i know good old doctor phil says we choose the way we react etc but I try all the time to just be the best I can be to put what I have no control over out of my way but everytime I think oh my god I'm never ever goin to see him again, hold him again talk to him again it takes my breath away like it did when I realised he was dead 5yrs ago. It still feels so fresh. My daughter is 6yrs old now and she is growing into such a beautiful, bright wee button and I do have people who share in my joy with her but I wish with all my heart she had her father here to share in all her life too.

I feel compelled to share with you some of my own feelings.  My daughter suicided in 1992, so some think I should be "over" it by now.  Not happening.  Just yesterday morning I awoke with an anger beyond words & simply lay in bed yelling at God. Heather was 15, so my anger is more directed at a loving Father that watched her put that gun to her head & pull the trigger than at her.  Sometimes I am angry at her, but more often at God. I am a born again Christian, but I'm far from perfect.  Anyway, who better to forgive my anger than God himself.   Time does not heal all wounds, just makes them a little less raw.   John Walsh made the statement that every time he thinks his wounds are healing, something pulls the scabs off & re-opens.  That is more what is happening with me & expect so with you.  It is understandable that you try to defend him to other people, yet also understandable that you are angry with him. He was an adult, who gave him the right to bale out on you & your daughter, to leave you in such pain simply to escape his own pain. Suicide is the most selfish act that can taken & those of us left behind live with it's pain everyone waking moment.  It is good that you are able to let your anger out or else it will eat you alive. I have great admiration for Dr. Phil, but he is human & as such he is sometimes way off the mark.  There are situations in which we cannot decide how we will react when our emotions are involved. Maybe that's where suicide comes from, some deep well of emotion you & I haven't tapped in to yet.  But I cannot decide how I will react to the death of my daughter nor can you decide how to react to your partners death. We can decide what we will do with our lives, whether or not to allow our reactions to control our lives, but we cannot decide what our reaction will be.  I'm very sorry for your pain & hope I've been able to help you a bit here.   

  

Denise 

 
User Mood
Sad

Message Emote
sad
April 12, 2006, 6:56 pm PDT

Grieving the loss of my baby...

On March 2, 2006, my boyfriend and I found out we were having a baby. Needless to say, we were ecstatic. I had surgery in October of last year, and found out I have a very bad case of endometriosis. My Doctober had told me that I would more than likely need fertility drugs to conceive, and I would be lucky if I even did. Well, we decided to try on our own anyway. We started trying in January, and in February, I got pregnant!! Well, we weren't quite sure how far along we were, so after our first appointment, the Doctor scheduled an ultrasound for March 21. I went in, then had another appointment right after. Well, I did not receive good news. My baby did not have a heartbeat. At that point, I wanted to just die myself. We scheduled another ultrasound a week later, just to make sure, but the day before my ultrasound, I did start to bleed. Not heavily, but nonetheless, I was bleeding. On March 29th, I had a D&C done, however, they did not get all the fetal material. My Doc gave me pills so I would basically "push" it out myself then, which, I did. This is not fair. There are so many people who are able to have babies, and it's babies they don't even want. We want so badly to have a family, and this happens. Well, I just found out yesterday that I have a bicornuate uterus. My uterus did not form properly when I was in my mother's womb. I have a very high miscarriage rate (which I've now had 2), and if I am able to carry a child, would have a very high risk pregnancy, and could have some serious complications and consequences. I am so heartbroken and torn up inside. I don't know how to accept all of this and be okay to move on. I do pray every day, and obviously cry a lot too. I have this huge hole in my heart, and I want it to heal. I need some support and help. I watch Dr. Phil's show everyday, and thought maybe I could get some help here. Please, if you have any words of advice, or support, I would appreciate them...Thank you...M
 

Message Emote
blank
April 14, 2006, 2:20 am PDT

Is This Grieving?

Hi everyone - some advice would be greatly appreciated. Hmm...where to start

 

I have always been a person who handles stress by working through the task at hand and then letting myself panic and fall apart after everything is already over - thats how I handle it.   It has always worked for me, just to set my mind to something and overcome the struggle...I'm not sure this is working for me now.  I'm also a person known to be totally independent - however I do not feel safe enough to share my emotions...So I hold them all inside and walk around pretending to be okay when really I'm crushed inside.  I don't want people to know when I can't handle things.

 

I am a 4 year double-major University student.  Christmas was a flurry of emotions, I got engaged to my boyfriend and a good friend was killed in an accident.  In January I witnessed an attempted murder infront of my house, which was scary (and unusual for my area).  In Feb another family friend died.   These were things that bothered me, but I flowed ahead with schoolwork and tried to not think too much about it.  Things really stared to go wrong 4 weeks ago.  I noticed that I had pain in my tailbone - so bad that I was rushed to the ER twice.  I find out that I have cysts growing on my spine...There is surgery to correct it - but it is risky and takes a minimum of 4 months complete bedrest to heal.  Needless to say I'm terrified of the surgery.  Currently I am in massive amount of pain every day - I can't even carry around a bookbag without medication.   The surgery has been booked two days following my last university exam (which will be April 27th); and is coming up faster than I can handle.   I missed all of March because I was in and out of the hospital; and now that final examination period has started I'm hopelessfly far behind - I have 5 final exams and 3 papers to write in the next 8 days.

 

Not that I want a shoulder to cry on; but I need some words of encouragement.   And there is one more thing going on - when I got the information about the surgery my fiance left me - he said that he couldn't be here to support me through this and he just left.   I dont' understand how we had this perfect relationship and when I needed support (for the first time mind ya) he just vanished.  He just said he couldn't support me and left - and its been almost 4 weeks and I haven't heard a single word.   I'm so confused and hurt and angry.   We lived together (with his sister) and I was booted from the house; so I'm living wherever I can (sometimes on my university campus couches) and trying to manage all these things.  I have to plead food from people, and beg for places to stay (I have no money)...It is so humiliating I feel so needy.  And so hopelessly alone. 

 

I know this is a page for people experiencing grief....I feel that I should be.  My whole life disappeared - I mean we had plans for a wedding, we had pets, going to buy a car, I was healthy, I was a 87 average student....and in the past 4 weeks that whole life just dissappeared....and theresn't nothing really left.   And I look at my situation and think that I have lost so much - it feels like my life died and I'm left with something new - but something that I don't want.   And I'm so confused to how I feel....I want to finish school - but I'm angry at the deadlines; I want him back to hold me and tell me its okay - but I don't miss him;  I am terrified of surgery - but keep convinving myself its not actually going to happen (when it will).  Things don't seem to match up in my head anymore

 

And I can't stop lying...people ask how I'm doing and I just say fine - I pretend that everything is okay and I can't stop myself from doing it.   As the words come from my mouth I envision myself falling into that persons arms and crying and letting it all out...but that doesn't happen.   There are two different people inside of me - one needs help so desparetly but the other won't let it happen.  I'm trying to hold it together...but I feel like I can't.  And I"m so scared of what will happen if I let it out...let everything come spilling out.   I haven't cried, I haven't been anything but numb....I breathe so shallowly and sometimes just hold my breath until my chest hurts.  And I think that part of me that needs help just keeps getting ignored..I just swallow it and move on.  I'm scared that when school and surgery is done and I look at life I'm going to be crushed.   I don't know....I'm just scared. 

 

So any advice about what to do...I mean should I just keep plowing through pretending that I'm not hurting inside; and how do I start to change that now (i've lied to everyone, told them I was fine - they are all so proud of me and its all a lie)?  I just feel so disconnceted....like I need help but there is someone else in my body pretending everything is fine and forcing myself through each day.  Is it wrong to feel so numb but so hurt at the same time?  Please help; I don't know how much longer I can do this.

 
First | Prev | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | Next | Last