Topic : Overcoming Grief

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Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.

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February 16, 2007, 7:43 am PST

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Quote From: mikao2603

This world is very materialistic as you know. Even when someone dies, greed comes up. It's horrible, but very unfortunately, it's the reality. Try to think less of what the others did. You know that you did stay true to yourself, and that you did carry out her wishes to the best of your abilities. I know you're disappointed about the others, but you cannot change the behaviour of others. That's something that they have to do themselves. Try not to be mad over things you cannot change.

 

Mikao

Thankyou for your response.  I realize all you said is certainly true and I think time will help as well as keeping my faith up and praying for the well being of them all.
 
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February 16, 2007, 12:26 pm PST

Overcoming Grief

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I want to introduce myself - new to the board! Ironically, today is the 7th anniversary of the death of my husband.  He was killed in a car accident just a few miles from our home.  I KNEW he was dead before the Sheriff's Department came to deliver the heartbreaking news.  I miss him very much.  My life changed in one split second. 

He had worked a double and was on his way home.  It was a single car accident, which I was very thankful no one else was hurt.  It was the strangest feeling to know I would never see my husband again.  Everything I planned for my life changed.  I never dreamed this would happen to me.  Or my two young children, for that matter.  What in the world was I going to do?  How was I going to be strong for them?  How was I going to support them?  I was absolutely numb, grief-stricken, and terrified.

That was seven years ago to this very day.  People would say to me time would heal all wounds.  I DID NOT want to hear that.  I cannot say if it was time, but something has helped me.  My awesome children have helped me.  Talking about him has helped.  Being here in this same house we chose together has helped.  Even as bizarre as it may sound, but riding past the accident site each day has helped. My relationship with God has REALLY helped me.  He is so amazing!!  He has become my husband. 

Seven years later, I accept where my life is today.  I love and miss my husband very much.  Not a day goes by where I don't think of him or tell funny stories about him.  I keep him very much alive in my heart.

I, also have faith even if I never find someone else to share my life with in that way, I've been blessed.  When I look in my children's eyes, I know he lives on!  Even though I am still unmarried and have not found even a prospect;  I feel very fortunate to have lived on this Earth as Mrs. David Zoneal Moore. 

 You sound like a very special person.  I am glad that you have found peace after such a great loss.  It is NOT easy to hear what everyone always says:  "time heals"  I believe that allowing yourself to grieve, and remembering our experiences, both the good and the bad is what helps us to heal.  Trusting in God to help us get through the pain as we remember...  that has been the best advice I have ever received.   "Let go, and let God".  It is like a weight lifted off of my shoulders. 

Do continue to take care of yourself and enjoy your life with your children.  If you are meant to find another to share your life, that person will come to you when the time is right.  God bless...
Lori
 
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February 17, 2007, 2:15 pm PST

Some improvement

Just got back from the nursing home - my FIL was doing a little better today as far as going to Physical therapy and Occupational therapy -he did real good there He ate good for breakfast but little for lunch Right before the gal came to get him for physical therapy, The oxygen tank  started hissing really loud. I got worried and grabbed him and said get up , Let's get out of here! we ran out the door of his room into the hallway and sat down farther away. I then asked someone what happened  and they got a fresh tank of O2 for him - it was a signal that it was all out. I thought the thing was going to blow!!!! We laughed.so hard. He's never had O2 before. And I don't even watch hospital shows. At least I know now not to yell "incoming" and hit the floor!! The sign that is less good is that he is talking a lot about people that have passed away years ago. They said that shows his mind is going back farther in time. Sometimes he thinks his wife is there and today asked me where his mother was. So we'll have to wait and see. Other times he jokes around with the nurses and PT and OT people so that is good. Well, more soon. My grandmother passed away 24 years ago but she was only in ill health for 6 months and no pain with her cancer at age 81. The last thing we talked about was the house my husband and I were going to buy and she was so happy to hear about that. Later as we moved to several different  cities and lived in different places, I would go to an antique mall or store and there would be a small china blue shoe with white polka dots and flowers just like the one she always had in her house while I was growing up. I got the first one I saw., a smaller version. Then we moved again and on the day of the closing for our new place, I went to an antique mall or store  and there was the same china blue shoe, this time in the larger size that she had always had. I bought it  . I never saw any before these 2 and I have never seen any since. I'm glad I have them!!
 
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February 18, 2007, 7:13 pm PST

losing my $40,000 truck

My grandmother would be so upset at me if she were alive today. I lived with her most all of my adult life. After I lost her to a rotten stroke it was just me at her home doing all the selling and cleaning up. Both of her son's which 1 lives out of state and the other 2 hrs away never helped me once after they left from the funeral. I had been on social security for OCD, but was also capable of being in very nice relationships with a few gals from time to time. Zoloft gave me my life back when I started on it back in '98, the year I was on ssa ssi disability. I loved my grandmother and she probably is the only woman who really ever loved me. I miss her very  much and now I have to go on.

 

2 months after my grandmothers death, I was fishing in the ocean with my dog and succomed to a heart attack 4 miles out in Monterey Bay. Thank God, i was able to walk off my boat after they rescued me and the ER Doctor used clot busters and I lived. I've been fine ever since then and 2 weeks later moved to Alaska, where I have always wanted to be because I didn't want to leave my grandmother at 93 yrs of age. Yes, i did a good thing by sacrificing most of my life to be near her as I was the only one she had and she loved me and my dog. I do feel somewhat bad that I never did get on my own in the high price of rent district of the silicon valley and sometimes didn't feel very good about myself  contributing to the domestic product.

 

Just 2 days before it was time for me to head north and after the sale of her home I purchased a new truck for my trip and one that would most likley last me the rest of my life. It was a 2004 F250 Crew cab lariat FX4 diesel. Leather heated seats, and by His Grace, i was able to have a nice camper shell put on 1 day before I left. that in itself was a miracle as they knew I was leaving and they just so happen to have the manufacture making the very same shell for someone else and they sold it to me. I hadn't asked them to but it all worked out great. That was pretty unreal to even have a manufacture in the same city as the dealer otherwise one has to wait for the shipment to come in.

 

I've never been in the position to ever afford a top of the line rig and especially pay $43,000 cash. I felt like a Major League Baseball player being able to pay for anything he wanted. It sure felt awesome to be driving that truck home for the first time. Anyway, after I arrived in AK, i soon had engine problems. 5 leaking injectors at 7k miles, it needed new rotors at 27k miles and I was 600.00 behind in my checking acct. after 2 yrs. I traded away my truck for a new GMC and with 3 grand back from the dealer so that patched up my checking acct and I paid some bills. My income for the two years was mostly 550.00 per month until the last 8 months, then it went up to 985.00 It just wasn't enough to live on with rent, ect.

 

How I ruined myself was because I truly love to fish and wanted a boat to fish the rivers. You can't really fish from shore for King salmon on this river. It's just too strong and the fish are world class. Plus you don't see anyone fishing it from shore. Not for 90 lb kings anyway. So, i was really wanting to get me and my dog back in a boat so we could enjoy fishing together so I traded away my new GMC truck that I had traded for the Ford, and got into an older Ford with 6k back to buy me a decent used boat. I couldn't find a decent boat for those 2 weeks and also found out that the old ford I was now driving got about 8 miles to the gallon. I couldn't handle that so I got rid of that and then ended up trading that in. and though I would just forget about a boat. I felt having good transportation is better than having a boat yet it was very hard for me to change my mind about not getting a boat.

 

So, I had about 10k in my trade in plus another 5k and I then went from owning that once new ford to making payments on a 10,800 auto loan and got back into a nicer GMC pick up. Nicer than the first one. I drove home and totally forgot that with my income that I would have to have full auto coverage and then realized I couldn't even afford to drive it. all of my 985.00 would take me right down to having 0 spending money and not even enough money to fill the gas tank up. I kept this truck 2 days then turned it back in. Got a used suburban, and sold it to a dealer, got my 10 grand and bought a boat for $5,500 before I bought a vehicle I was so disgusted.

 

I'm now driving a pick up with scratches on it, a busted winshield and look like someone who is living in the poor house. Plus, i'm making pmts on this truck for 175.00 per month for 2 yrs. I went from riches to rags in a matter of 5 months. From a top of the line vehicle to a piece of crap. It runs good everyday but a far cry from what I was driving. I'm on ssa and my debt to income ratio prevents me from even qualifying for a 20,000 loan. I'm thinking of moving to a big city and try to get off this ssa stuff and try to have a life again.

 

I would do anything to get my truck back. I will probably never again be in the position to drive in such a nice truck again. My truck was beautiful and everybody looked at me where ever I was at. Not that I even thought about attention but it did feel nice giving an impression that I might be half way doing something right in my life when driving such a nice rig. I know it's who we are inside but for the simplicity of it all, everyone would like to drive a nice new car or truck they couldn't afford if the chance was given them. For months now, I have felt like part of me is missing and it's the truck that my grandmother had allowed me to get into it. I have been so disgusted and upset since last year and I have realized that nice things are nice, they are not to be your god, but i am so disgusted and upset with myself. All for a stupid boat and fish.

 

I'm conscience every day, almost every hour of what im driving now. The vehicle i'm in now has 247,000 miles. how could I have done this too myself. Maybe cutting off my zoloft because of side effects may have interupted my thought process and with all my heart meds. I don't know is all I wish is for me to have my truck back and i would be the happiest person in the world. There is no way out for me. the damage is done and it's hard living with this fact. I am going to see about getting a caseworker assigned to me.

 
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February 19, 2007, 8:17 am PST

What to say, what to do?

My friend’s husband was diagnosed with cancer and we recently learned that he only has one week to live. I talked with her this morning, and she said that although this is not the outcome they had hoped for, he is glad to be home with her and they are spending time going down memory lane, looking at old home video and vacation pictures, etc. I feel terrible because I don’t even know what to say to her- can anyone give me some advice from their own personal experience? Many people’s advice is to cook something and bring it over, but they live about one hour away from us. I just wish there was something that I could say; our phone conversation was so awkward and I feel terrible. “Sorry to hear that” sounds so stupid, any advice?

 
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February 19, 2007, 1:56 pm PST

I know how you feel!

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Three years ago my Dad was diagnosed with Myleodysplasia a incurable blood disease, also known as pre-Leukemia.  We were all devastated as he was such a strong healthy stable force in our family. I have never come to terms with his illness, and for the past 3 years have been on such a roller coaster of emotions....Elated when he was doing well to being heartbroken when he wasn't.  On June 23rd, my Dad peacefully passed away in his bed at home.  I am so absolutely devastated by this, and have no idea how to deal with him being gone.  No matter how old you are, I am in my late 30's and the mother of two school aged children.....Your parents are still your parents, and I really miss my Dad so much.   How do you ever overcome such a loss???

My dad past away 4 years ago and I'm still lost with out him.It crushed our family when he past. It still feels like yestarday. My mom still hasn't recoverd, sometimes I think she never will. I'm hopeful that we all will. My 2 sons are doing better then my mom and I are. My dads family has had a very hard time with loosing him. My dad was 1 of 10 children. By the way I'm 39 years old. I don't think it makes a difference how old you are when a parent dies. 

 
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February 19, 2007, 9:16 pm PST

I just lost my grandmother

My grandmother was the only mother i known my whole life.  I am 27 years old but dont know how to deal with lossing her.  She was only 62 and went into the hospital for pain.  She was having trouble moving around the house.  She was in the hospital a week before they found she had double pneumonia.  The pneumonia was by then was so bad that she developed mrsa.  She was placed on a vent and was able to come off the vent I thought she was getting better.  She did at first until the mrsa caused another infection and my father was told a trac would have to placed if she was get better.  My father and I fought until they hospital allowed her to wake up and ask her what she wanted.  She wanted the trac and she got alot better.  Enough so that she was moved and placed into a vent hospitial to slowly taken off the vent.  She was doing well and at christmas I was able to tell her after 6 years of trying I was pregnant.  She was happy and talking.  The next week she was to be moved into a home for placement because they would not allow me to bring her home with me.  On thrusday that week she took a turn for the worse according to my estranged father.  The following monday against my will had unhooked her vent and order all her medicine stopped.  I was able to send tuesday with her but she was totally under she didn't know I was there.  Because it hurt me so deeply to watch her pass and be helpless to save her I wasnt able to stay longer for fear of lossing my baby.  I am a high risk pregnacy .She fought for life until thrusday night and she passed away.  I called 30 mins before she died and the nurse said She has fought to stay alive.  But my father was the next of kin so I was helpless to save her.  She was my mother if not by birth but in my heart and she was my very best freind.  I dont know how to face each day without her.  We talked at least 4 times a day every day.   There is so much I wanted to ask her and share with her.  It breaks my heart she can never hold my baby.
 
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February 19, 2007, 10:13 pm PST

Your letter caught my heart

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My friends husband was diagnosed with cancer and we recently learned that he only has one week to live. I talked with her this morning, and she said that although this is not the outcome they had hoped for, he is glad to be home with her and they are spending time going down memory lane, looking at old home video and vacation pictures, etc. I feel terrible because I dont even know what to say to her- can anyone give me some advice from their own personal experience? Many peoples advice is to cook something and bring it over, but they live about one hour away from us. I just wish there was something that I could say; our phone conversation was so awkward and I feel terrible. Sorry to hear that sounds so stupid, any advice?

I really just wanted to respond to your letter. I don't know if I have any advice but this really brought tears to my eyes. I lost my daughter 4 yrs ago and my friends did not know how to deal with the pain I was going thru and they pretty much abandoned me. I just say please don't do this to your friend sometimes it is not what you say it is what and when to listen. Sometimes silence is all you can do and just let her know that you are there for them. She WILL pick up the phone cause that is all she can do. Maybe send her a card in the mail every once in a while to let her know that you are thinking of her. It really does mean so much. This will be a hard road for not just her but the friends that love her. God Bless all of you involved.  Linda
 
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February 19, 2007, 10:55 pm PST

Caring is a good start.

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My friends husband was diagnosed with cancer and we recently learned that he only has one week to live. I talked with her this morning, and she said that although this is not the outcome they had hoped for, he is glad to be home with her and they are spending time going down memory lane, looking at old home video and vacation pictures, etc. I feel terrible because I dont even know what to say to her- can anyone give me some advice from their own personal experience? Many peoples advice is to cook something and bring it over, but they live about one hour away from us. I just wish there was something that I could say; our phone conversation was so awkward and I feel terrible. Sorry to hear that sounds so stupid, any advice?

Your friend sounds very brave but she is also in shock. Call her and ask her if she needs some company. Having someone sit with her when her husband gets very ill can be good. Just listen to her tell you what's on HER mind. She may need someone to sit up with her husband at night so she can get some sleep and be there for him during the day. (I mean she can just sleep in the next room.) If this sounds like more than you want to do suggest the need to her and she can find someone who will be able to help her.

 

I have been in your place, not knowing what to say so I don't say anything - ever. And I have been the wife of a dying husband (two years ago) but fortunately, I had plenty of help during the five weeks before my husband was gone. One thing that makes a big difference is; are your friends Christians? People can die without being Christian and can be cared for, but if they are Christians they will have hope, peace and even joy that can't be explained. I have tried not to ask my friend, "How are you doing?" but I do it automatically and they respond automatically with, "Fine." Of course they are not fine so try to take it to the next level with another, more specific question like,  "Are you getting any rest?" "Have you been able to eat?" "How is He feeling?" "What can I do to help you?" This will take some courage on your part but you will be glad you were brave enough to risk saying the wrong thing because caring for your friend in more important than saving yourself possible embarrassment.

 

Let me know how it is going. And thanks for caring.

 
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February 20, 2007, 12:09 pm PST

thank you!

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Your friend sounds very brave but she is also in shock. Call her and ask her if she needs some company. Having someone sit with her when her husband gets very ill can be good. Just listen to her tell you what's on HER mind. She may need someone to sit up with her husband at night so she can get some sleep and be there for him during the day. (I mean she can just sleep in the next room.) If this sounds like more than you want to do suggest the need to her and she can find someone who will be able to help her.

 

I have been in your place, not knowing what to say so I don't say anything - ever. And I have been the wife of a dying husband (two years ago) but fortunately, I had plenty of help during the five weeks before my husband was gone. One thing that makes a big difference is; are your friends Christians? People can die without being Christian and can be cared for, but if they are Christians they will have hope, peace and even joy that can't be explained. I have tried not to ask my friend, "How are you doing?" but I do it automatically and they respond automatically with, "Fine." Of course they are not fine so try to take it to the next level with another, more specific question like,  "Are you getting any rest?" "Have you been able to eat?" "How is He feeling?" "What can I do to help you?" This will take some courage on your part but you will be glad you were brave enough to risk saying the wrong thing because caring for your friend in more important than saving yourself possible embarrassment.

 

Let me know how it is going. And thanks for caring.

From reading “Dear Abby” in the newspaper, I’ve learned that because many people don’t know what to do or say, they say nothing, and the friend ends up feeling abandoned. I don’t want this to happen to my friend, she is so dear to me. Thank you so much for your advice, it is helpful to have some suggestions. As for visiting- when I chatted with her a few days ago, she mentioned that she needs to learn how to deal with ‘well meaning visitors who stop in at inconvenient times.’

I talked with her yesterday, and they just learned that her husband has only about one week to live. She is being so strong. She said that they are watching old home videos and vacation pictures, walking down memory lane and remembering all the good times. She said this without a quaver in her voice- do you think that it is shock? I was a wreck, but tried not to sound like I was crying, because she wasn’t crying. I worry that I will say or do the wrong thing. Thank you again for the advice.

 

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