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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 04:53:58 pm
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Grieving profound loss can be devastating, but it is a natural process. Share your grief with others and find support to help you recover.

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July 28, 2008, 8:45 pm PDT

Overcoming Grief

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I understand what you're talking about. I lost both my parents in 2006, 2 1/2 months apart. For the longest time, and even still, all I could think about was the immediate time surrounding thier deaths. Maybe if ya'll get together and discuss the past 21 years before she died it could help alleviate some of the pain I don't think that anyone ever fully gets over the death of someone close, but time does help dull the pain. For me, even now I have bad days when I think of my parents. And all of my memories with them, mainly my dad, are not good. But like Maya Angelou says, "No matter what kind of relationship you have with your parent, you will miss them when they are gone."  I don't think you're crazy for still talking about her. (My grandmother died in 1988, and still sometimes we talk of her. And I still miss her.) Try to remember all of the good your pastor accomplished and how she made a difference in everyone's lives. Create some sort of a scholarship or something like that in her name, so that she can still make a difference in a way even though she is no longer here.
thank you for responding and giving insight to my issues even though your loss is greater.  i pray that evry day your pain is lessened and replaced with fond memories of your lives together. god bless you and keep you is my prayer.
 
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July 30, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

overcoming grief

I'm trying to overcome grief too, it's the loss of a child, not in the conventional sense.  My son became involved with a girl with a very hard past, she began to neglect/possibly abuse my grandbaby, and when I confronted her said I would never see the babies again.  My worst nightmare come true.  I debated for months and finally called DCF.  I didn't feel I had a choice, knowing about it and not reporting it are not right.  I feel she leaves my son little choices on what he can do, she uses harm of the kids to manipulate him, so he is lost to me.  It hurts so bad I feel like disappearing.  I'm going to counseling.  Part of my grief is because there was sexual abuse in my family, I had a very hard childhood, tried to find love and just got pregnant at 17, however, I gave that baby away so she would be safe, and this feels very much like that.  I was punished by my ex husband (my son's dad) and treated very badly.  I'm just coming around myself to finally getting help for PTSD, dissociation disorder and life long depression.  There's no getting past this though, as I now have two grandbabies, and I feel like it's too late, that if my son ever did (which I can't see) try to reconcile with me I would have to say no because I feel like I have to set boundaries on people who hurt me this much.  So, it feels like he died.  I do alot of work in coping.org, and go through alot of pain and get a little better all the time, but I don't think I can ever reconcile my mind to this.  I journal all the time.  I guess I was hoping someone could tell me that life got better for them, even though they never saw, you know, the core of their heart again.  It's so hard. 
 
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July 30, 2008, 6:57 pm PDT

i am so sorry

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

MI am so sorry.  I just recently lost my husband/my best friend/sweetheart/lover/ SOUL MATE to suicide 11-29-2007.   Nine years ago 02-1999 my stepson that had Chrons disease and was disabled from the time he was very young on top of it, brillant but troubled  bi-polar/schizophrenic -the depression runs on my husband's side of the family.   I have lost my entire world.  It was so hard for him.  He was so wonderful-my husband was kind, loving good as the day is long.  smart, gentle, strong, loving, gave me space in our relationship.  jWe were both Geminis-I'm a double Gemini and have psychic ability.  U have no idea how it is to literally feel him being emotionally/spiritually attacked.  I tried so hard to get him  help but it all ultimately did no good.  I saw him literally diseintegrate in front of my eyes.  I did everything to try and help him.   We went through so many things together.  He saw firsthand my father's alcoholism and his abuse of me.  My dad was wonderful growing up but lack of self esteem/self hatred/feeling he didn't deserve better, I suppose.  He retired & last 30 yrs raging nasty alcoholic & my mother's always been verbally/emotionally abusive to me. Not to my brothers.  Of course my oldest brother understood pretty much.   My other 2 brothers-i'm the only sister ostracize me. I'm the only functional one.  My oldest brother just turn 59 had a ht attack & died in his sleep 07-16-08 & my father died a week later. No one even called me or emailed me. I am barely emotionally hanging on. I'm losing my condo, have to move by myself out of state in w/my girlfriend who is not well herself & her husband, no job but I have federal pension from my federal career w/SSA of 28 yrs.  I have survived being sick very sick last 17 yrs . My husband was sexually abused by his sick twisted messed up mother her sister-my husband's aunt and their sicko friends.  No my step-dtr and I are unfortunately in the same club.  she has no other siblings.  She pushed away her father because she felt she didn't get the attention that her brother did. which wasn't done purposely but my husband's son was so very ill for yrs.  Now, we're talking a lot. I told him she loved him I knew it. I felt it in my ht.  He hung himself in the bathrrom I found him-was in nsg school didn't finish but I stay very calm in emergencies.  I ran called 911-thought he'd had a ht attack or passed out in bathroom.  I didn't see at 1st that he'd hung himself.  I just saw him slumped over in the corner w/his head down & I knew it was very hot in bathroom.  called 911 yelled out my front door help someone help then ran back, tried to lift him up.  He was 5'10" 185 lbs very stocky man-solid for age 62/in good physical shape. When I tried to lift him I couldn't get him up, then saw he hung himself w/fishing twine double yellow. I cut him down, held his head/neck & got him down, did cpr & my friend whos psychotherapist did it w/me.  too late. I am even denied our private ins. policy as we just changed it same month he did this lowering from $150,000 down to $100,000.   He was such a perfect man//husband/companion.  I have survived gastric bypass, lost 100 lbs and still overcoming other physical things-diabetes, bad neck, tzietse syndrome-auto immune system.  I have my pension/fedl hlth coverage. I will eventually return to college and get nursing degree. I am so different only 54 but my hts broken. I'm so different-pretty, smart, independent. My hubby said I eat nails spit rust.  His mother was career woman & my husband encouraged my intelligence but I'm veyr loving/maternal/caring/best friend, gourmet cook, 4 octave singing voice.  He was never threatened by me.  He was so handsome--to me at least.  I am trying not to cry.  Too many losses.  u can email me directly if u want v w big red at yahoo all together or barbarajkfellerat g mail dot com.  My mother said something horrific to me on the p hone she's a Christian and will pray for me.  She said my dtrs in law are my REAL DTRS.   which meant I am not what else is new I can't win even if I do everything perfect-according to her but she loves me    or so her words say   actions speak louder than words   Jesus loves me better than she ever would   I will survive he will help me and my friends and loved ones are my true family  I will not lay my heart out for any more abuse from my mothers or 2 useless hateful brothers  no one even sent me a sympathy card from my entire family  friends loved ones co workers but no family so to speak of    only my oldest brother called me for an hour   oh well god bless u and hang in there I loved my stepson Kevin Feller like my own son.    My husband Stuart Feller is now with God and Kevin.        
 
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August 11, 2008, 3:04 pm PDT

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I feel so guitly about my mother-in-law passing away, she battled cancer for 2 years and lost her battle in May.  I was the one who took her to her teatments and I was the one who was with her when she passed.it was so hard to watch her pass I told her to go so she took her last breath and she was gone.  My question is the guilty I feel for telling her to go will it ever go away.  I know she is in a better place and she isnt in pain anymore but the guilty I feel is eating at me I have a hard time going to sleep.  I just want to know that I am not a bad person I did what was right
 
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August 13, 2008, 9:30 pm PDT

murder of a gay person

Quote From: arjnsdca

I would really like Dr Phil to do a show on the murder of 15 yr old Mathew Lawrence who was murdered by a classmate because he was gay and asked to be his valentine.  There is a holy war being waged against LGBT people in this country because fundamental Christians mis-interpret the bible and use it as a weapon of discrimination.  I think Dr Phil can help save lives by doing a show on hate crimes like this.
I'm so sorry.  My best friend Val was living a gay lifestyle also.  I am a holy spirit filled Christian and the people that misquote the holy Bible are a trip. 

The Bible says to 'love the sinner and hate the sin'.  This young man shouldn't have been killed. 

When r people going to learn to love each other instead of being hateful?

If we don't recognized/remember the past like the Holocaust- we will be condemned to repeat it. Hate only begets hate. 

Hang in there! 
 
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August 17, 2008, 6:40 pm PDT

OVERCOMING GRIEF

Quote From: hurtandheal

I know how you feel.  I went to grief counseling soon after my grandma died.  But recent events have me back at square one.  I think we have to take comfort that they are still with us and don't want us to hurt.  We will see them again.  I understand the holes in your heart and soul, and I can't tell you how to heal except that value those who love you now.  Be remembered by love not grief.  I hide mine from most people, I want to be remembered as a strong person who loved fiercely and was loyal.  Isn't that the best testamonial you can give to the loved ones you loose?

 

DEAR OVERCOMING GRIEF,

HI, I TOO AM SUFFERING GRIEF FROM THE LOSS OF MY FIANCE' OF ALMOST 10 YRS.  HE WAS 54 YRS. OLD AND WOULD OF BEEN 55 JUST 25 DAYS LATER AND WE WOULD OF CELEBRATED OUR 10 YR. ENGAGEMENT OF BEING ENGAGED.  THE DAY OF HIS ACCIDENT WE HAD A BIG ARGUMENT OVER THE PHONE BECAUSE I SAID NO TO HIS PROPOSAL OF MARRIAGE.  THE REASON WHY I SAID NO WAS BECAUSE HE WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND I JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.  I  TOLD HIM THAT BEFORE WE GER MARRIED I WANTED HIM TO GO GET HELP FOR HIS DRINKING AND HE GOT MAD AND HUNG UP THE PHONE AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO HIM, WHICH WAS FEB.27th,07.  I HAD GOTTEN A PHONE CALL IN THE EARLY HRS. OF FEB. 28th. SAYING THAT JIM WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND WAS BEING FLOWN FROM ONE HOSPITAL TO ANOTHER BY FLIGHT 4 LIFE.   AND THAT THEY (son and daughter-in-law) WOULD BE PICKING ME UP SO THAT THE 3 OF US COULD GO TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE JIM WAS AT.  IN THE MEAN TIME, I CALLED JIM'S SISTER AND BROTHER TO HAVE THEM MEET US AT THE HOSPITAL ALSO.  WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SURGERY THAT HE WAS SUPPOSE TO HAVE WHEN THE DR. CAME IN AND TOLD US THAT IF HE REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS HE WOULD BE IN A VEGETATIVE STATE UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED, AND IF HE WOULD OF WOKE UP FROM BEING UNCONSCIOUS HE STILL WOULD OF BEEN IN A VEGETATIVE STATE.  SO WE (the brother, sister-in-law, sister, niece, son, daughter-in-law, and I) DECIUDED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO NOT LET HIM SUFFER, AND TO HAVE HIM TAKEN OFF THE RESPIRATOR. 

IN THE MEAN TIME I HAD A DR'S APPOINTMENT AT A DIFFERENT HOSPITAL AND AFTER I WAS DONE THERE I WENT HOME.  TO THIS DAY I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T GO BACK TO THE HOSPITAL AND STAY THERE WITH HIS FAMILY AND MINE, SO I SAID MY GOOD BYE AND LEFT TO GO TO MY APPOINTMENT AND THEN HOME.  THE NEXT MORNING MY SON CALLED TO TELL ME THAT JIM HAD PASSED AWAY AT 11:01a.m. WHICH WAS MARCH. 1st,07.    TO THIS DAY I STILL REGRET NOT STAYING WITH HIM AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT WAS THERE AT THE HOSPITAL, BUT I GUESS I WAS AFRAID TO SEE HIM DIE.  DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LOVED HIM WITH ALL MY HEART AND ALL MY SOUL AND THEN SOME PLUS A WHOLE LOT MORE!!  BUT I JUST COULDN'T STAND HIS DRINKING ANYMORE.  SEE WHEN I WAS 15 I TOLD MY PARENTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MARRY THIS GUY, BUT WHEN, I DIDN'T KNOW!!  AND ON MARCH 29th, 1997 WE HAD OUR FIRST DATE, WHICH WAS CALLED "THE DATE THAT NEVER ENDED"!!  WHICH BY THE WAY IT NEVER DID END BECAUSE ON MARCH 29th,1997 HE MOVED IN WITH MY 2 SONS AND I!!

 

NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT HAS ONLY BEEN 1 YR. 5 MONTHS AND 10 DAYS SINCE HIS PASSING AND I AM VERY LONELY, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMING OR GOING.  I AM TIRED OF FEELING ALONE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD START DATING AGAIN OR NOT.

 

THANK YOU

 

OWENGM2

 
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September 17, 2008, 6:45 pm PDT

Overcoming Grief

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I'm so sorry.  My best friend Val was living a gay lifestyle also.  I am a holy spirit filled Christian and the people that misquote the holy Bible are a trip. 

The Bible says to 'love the sinner and hate the sin'.  This young man shouldn't have been killed. 

When r people going to learn to love each other instead of being hateful?

If we don't recognized/remember the past like the Holocaust- we will be condemned to repeat it. Hate only begets hate. 

Hang in there! 
there is no HOLY WAR going on against the gay and lesbians in this world.  I love these people but what they are doing is a sin.  It could not be any clearer than what the Bible says.  I don't think this young man should have been killed but the wages of sin is death.
 
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September 17, 2008, 6:55 pm PDT

Overcoming Grief

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I feel so guitly about my mother-in-law passing away, she battled cancer for 2 years and lost her battle in May.  I was the one who took her to her teatments and I was the one who was with her when she passed.it was so hard to watch her pass I told her to go so she took her last breath and she was gone.  My question is the guilty I feel for telling her to go will it ever go away.  I know she is in a better place and she isnt in pain anymore but the guilty I feel is eating at me I have a hard time going to sleep.  I just want to know that I am not a bad person I did what was right
In April My mother was told she had lung cancer and that there was nothing to they could do for her.  Mom said she was ready and that she missed my Dad so much so she decided on doing nothing and let it run it course.  I took my mother into my home and with the help of Hospice I had nine weeks with her.  Nine weeks that I would never take back or regret.  Hospice told me that each member of the family needed to let my mother know it was alright to go that we would miss her but we knew where she wanted to be.  I was holding her hand on this side while God took her hand on the other side.  Yes I cried and yes I miss her more that I thought possible but she had to know it was alright to go.  Do not feel bad sleep the sleep of someone who did the right thing,
 
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September 23, 2008, 6:36 am PDT

My Father passed away in April.

 I know I am not the first this has happened to.   I have been so busy, I don't feel I've had the chance to grieve yet.  All of a sudden,  I think it's hitting me....but I'm not sure, and I don't know what to do or how to deal with it.  I am telling myself 'don't think about it'. I loved my Father so much. He battled cancer for two years and lost the fight, he was an amazing, strong, positive person through all he had to suffer: hip surgery to remove cancer in the hip, kidney surgery to remove cancer there, they took out his C6 verterbrae because it was also cancerous, the implant slipped and he could no longer walk without help/or hold up his neck without a brace. They couldn't go back in and operate because they where afraid he would bleed to death on the operating table as he almost did that time.  His blood was very thin due to taking aspirin as 10 years before this he had a bi- pass for a heart attack, though he came through with fighting colors after battling that. And all this with chemo therapy ...I have  never seen my mother the way she is now, I don't feel I can help her, she has withdrawn into herself, I'm trying to help, but I am not reaching her.  I am terribly worried for her.  My husband sais he understands exactly what I am going through, yet he has not lost a parent yet. I don't feel he does know what I'm going through, it makes me angry and upset.  I know he's only trying to help.
Anyone out there with advice on how to deal with this?
Thankyou so much.
 

 
 
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September 25, 2008, 12:38 am PDT

I'm sorry

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I've seen your post.  This is not a live chat room, but rather a message board. We post message back & forth to each other, as our own time permits.  The beauty is that we don't have to be on-line at the same time.  However, we don't accept nor issue contracts on each others lives (lol) but instead try to support & uplift through the difficult times & share the good times.  Check back for posts later. 

  

  

Denise 

I'm sorry I offended you. Just trying to find a way out.
 
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