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Created on : Friday, September 08, 2006, 12:18:36 pm
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Whether you're new to the dating scene due to a breakup, or just still looking for Mr. Right, dating after 40 has some unique challenges. Share your stories, experiences and advice here.

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March 26, 2009, 12:17 pm PDT

Hi Kimi,

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How are you? Still giving the dating thing a good shot, huh? lol

 

Dating over 40 for me has been more like going to the supermarket and the shelves are bare or the only thing available are old produce. I am close to 50 but I look at women and men that are my age and they are overweight, very stressed, work a  holics, or narcissistic. I remain in shape, try to destress when its necessary  go to a therapist to help me through life's criseses, and like to work and play. I work more because there is nothing better to do....:)))  I am finding dating to be more along of meat market mentality, superficial (which is really what dating is ) but it is just so played out already. So as much as I like to go out I don't because the quality of people has been reduced down to rat level. Its every man and woman for themselves. I am finding people just want things to go the way they want it to go (that is the dating defination now). So many people our age have compromised on so many different levels with family, exes, kids, work responsibilities, education, that now its more difficult to be open to others life styles.

 

For example: you don't like having to deal with ex's and kids from previous marriages, relationships, right? Well, 20 years ago, you didn't have to because the people that you dated did not have kids or ex wives. This is our reality. The fact that we don't have kids puts us on a different playing field. We will not be so tolerant of the dysfunctional ways others raiesed their children because that is ONE area we have not had to screw up! LOL

 

On the flip side, those with children and ex's , then date people like us with no kids, no exe's I can't call my ex an ex because I don't truly consider that a relationship that I feel I lost out on......So he's more like a circle or a zero....:)      Anyway, they don't know how to be truly present with us because they have been so distracted that they have no clue how be with just one person long enough without needing stimulation from others or another thing to fill their calendars. Then take two people alike.......and since we are older and seasoned, heh heh, the pot is full and we are simmering, like a good broth, tasting the flavor of the life we cooked up for ourselves.

 

The most challenging part of being single at close to 50 is thinking, that by now, one would think I have learned how to actually be in a relationship with someone long enough to not screw it up somehow. But thats the fun and the challenge...we truly are pieces of art. Take care. Kimi

 

 

I haven't had internet for 1 yr. now, so I have to go to the library..it's good though, prevents me from getting addicted and more accomplishing indiviual..You SO right on, with all you said..gee, I know exactly what you're saying..I've learned so much, and especially when I read yours and other ppl's posts..Sometimes, we have to learn the hard way..but, as long as we do learn..and it doesn't take too long to learn it..lol..

 

I think the main thing for us, after we go through bad experiences or not so good ones..We need to not get caught up in 'bitterness' and change who we are..I'm like you, I have kept in shape all my life, mentally always upbeat and happy...but, have to be careful ppl can bring you down..I searched long and hard, for this book I once read, that helped me once..I was at a thrift store, and I found it..strange..It's called "Solitude"..on the author, although had ppl in his life..said when he's the most accomplished, is when he's alone..and when one can see that, it's a GOOD THING, not a bad or lonely thing..When, I get back to that..I read it, and it really helps me..and it's weird, I feel 'good'..Most ppl feel they can't be alone..they fear it..but, when you read a book like this, it really helps..I go hiking with my dogs, kayaking alone..vacation alone..(go visit ppl along the way)..go to movies alone..and you know what?  It's ok..actually, feels great..Anyway, just wanted to post this..Take care,

 

Dee

 
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March 30, 2009, 6:41 pm PDT

No you didn't give me the wrong impression

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Hi. Now I understand why you thought I was mad at you too. Ok. Here is the scoop. Since we are doing this on the dr phil board, lol....but just for the record....you are a friend first, a co worker second so I will talk to you like a friend first.  As much as I can appreciate your feelings I hope my friendship has not created a false impression of anything other then friendhip? If so. I am sorry.  It has nothing to do with if I was hurt or think all men are slime....I don't, btw...:) but I am not interested in anything outside of a working relationship-friendship with you. I don't feel the workplace is appropiate to talk about this which is why I chose to write this with the hopes that you will read it at home.

I hope you find happiness. You are on a very good path now. I wish you success and happiness in all you set out for yourself. Kimi
You were right about one thing, the workplace is not appropriate to discussing these kinds of things, but a concerned friend would have picked-up the phone instead. I was answering as a friend, nothing more. I didn't think you were talking about me. You really don't know me very well, do you? I'm wondering what you do think about me now. I'm sure it's not even close to who I really am. How could I possibly get the wrong impression, really? You haven't given me the slightest reason to think that you are "interested" in me in any way, friend or otherwise to be honest with you. We only talk when I come to you. So how could I get the wrong impression? And after just reading your post to Dee, I want to say something witty or profound but I'm really lost for words. The shelves are bare? I guess that's what you think about me? Here's a suggestion, try another supermarket. I was wrong about you, I thought you were more enlightened than this. I hope your eyes open up soon. I really,really do! You have so much more to learn and to give. You really are a beautiful human being inside but let's face your taste in men hasn't been a very useful tool for you, has it? And your experiences have made you a bit cynical and blind. Good luck, really. I mean that with all my heart. Jerry
 
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March 31, 2009, 12:53 pm PDT

reconnecting

If you reconnect with someone you dated in high school, is it kinda normal for things to move fast?
 
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April 2, 2009, 3:11 pm PDT

age difference

my girlfriend is 59 years old and im 46 and she brings it up often that i should find someone else my age but i really love this woman and she nows that so why does she act this way toward me her kids like me they have no problem with it. she comes to see me often we go out on saturday night dancing and then out to eat and we ejoy each other.we also talk on the phone at leat 3 times a day but i don,t now what to do if she keeps bringing it up i don,t want to break up with her because i love her so much we have been togther 1 year and 2 months
 
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April 3, 2009, 3:27 am PDT

I would think

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my girlfriend is 59 years old and im 46 and she brings it up often that i should find someone else my age but i really love this woman and she nows that so why does she act this way toward me her kids like me they have no problem with it. she comes to see me often we go out on saturday night dancing and then out to eat and we ejoy each other.we also talk on the phone at leat 3 times a day but i don,t now what to do if she keeps bringing it up i don,t want to break up with her because i love her so much we have been togther 1 year and 2 months

I would think that at her age, she doesn't want to feel tied down or committed. Since she was probably married, had the family, etc. now she probably only wants casual relationships which bring her enjoyment and nurturing, but not safety. She is having a great time, it seems with you, and her reminding you of the age difference might be her way of telling you that you need to find someone else, although not necessarily any particular age difference, but she is letting you in on a very big secret, that she does not want to spend the rest of her life with you. 

 

I hope this doesn't bring you down, but anytime I suggested someone date someone else, it was because I really didn't want that particular relationship for the long haul.  I would say, don't go find yourself someone your age, but find yourself someone that can commit to you. I don't think she wants to. Sorry.

 
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April 7, 2009, 10:41 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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I am 45 years old and the single mom of a beautiful, smart, wonderful 5 year old girl and i'm scared to death to date because i'm afraid of child molestors. My neice was molested by my sisters boyfriend when she was about my daughters age and told me about it one day when i was taking her home from school.  I was furious and disgusted... but not matter my feelings, or my sisters subsequent actions it was too late that bastard took her innocence away and she can't get it back. I suspect nearly every guy who is interested in me is secretly a child molestor.  HELP!

I want to get married and have a wonderful life and I DON'T want to pass my fears on to my daughter.

 

I know what you are fearing and I too felt that way about my children, wanting to protect them from these type of predators.  At her age it is difficult but it starts with educating her about what is in appropriate behavior and making sure she knows that she can tell you anything.   I personally chose to wait until they were older and spoke with them in depth from time to time that they could always tell me if someone was inappropriate with them, even if it was family, friends, teachers, etc.  Because these days it is not just boyfriends that will exhibit this type of behavior with children.  This is so sad to say but it is true.  My choice is not the solution for everyone but at the time it was what worked for me and I don't regret it because my childrens safety and happiness was more important to me.   One friend of mine use to wait until she knew the fellow better before she released her family information to make sure that he was truely interested in her and not her children.  That is difficult and when they did meet her new friend she asked her children what they thought of that person.  A lot of times they see things that you miss because you are so attracted to him.  I am not sure if this helps you but these are my own observations and experiences only you can be the judge of what is best for you.
 
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April 7, 2009, 11:22 pm PDT

No luck

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new topic-hmmm.  Dating after 40? Nonexistent.  Anyone else having any luck?

I have not been on here too long but most that I have seen have been divorced 2-5 years and still having trouble.  I chuckled because I have had trouble for the past 15 years, lol.  I laugh because this is not a new problem it has been this way a long time.  My dry run has been due to having to raise my two children without the help from my ex,  finishing college, and working fulltime to support them while trying to stay focused on their needs.  For me the option of dating didn't really become an option until I reached 40 but now I find myself asking where do I start, where do I go, and how do I avoid repeating what happened in my other marriage.  I would have thought that it would have been easy to find someone, but most of the people that are my age and interesting to me I find that they are either already married or in a relationship.  I have the worst luck, married men or men that just want a roll in the hay seem to love to approach me, and this is so not the kind of person that I am.  I firmly hold on to the thought that God has my perfect mate out there for me but that we just have not met yet.  I do know that the bar scene does not hold the attraction that  it did when I was 18 so where do you go to find single people?  Online, maybe but I spend enough time on the computer as it is with work and that just doesn't appeal to me.  Plus I have tried it twice and both times have been a bomb.  Church, work, friends, are other ways to meet people but nothing has panned out.  I even joined a bowling league, lol, to try to meet a guy that was doing something that he loved it turned out that the single guys were joining with their girl friends so I was the odd ball.  I have run out of ideas of where I should look but the odd thing is I see people that have been successful.  When I ask them where did they meet they may say church, happy hour after work, thru friends, work and these are all the things that I have tried too.  So this leads me to ask myself what am I doing differently.  Sometimes I wonder if it is body language, am I unconciously sending out an unapproachable message?  Who would you even ask what kind of body language you are emitting?  So many questions and not many answers but to answer the question of this blog, no I am not having any better luck than you are.  : (

 
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April 7, 2009, 11:53 pm PDT

Not always true

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There are plenty of honest genuine guys out here at all ages. They are the guys you did not pick because they were too easy for you to get. You know; the guys that mailed you several times trying to get your attention, The guys that when you lowered your so called standards to go out with them they showed up on time with a car and dressed nicely. They bored you with their consideration and reliability. You picked the bad boy so you could complain about it later.
You might have a point some of the time but your reasoning is not always the rule.  When I divorced I specifically looked for just the opposite of what my ex was trying to remain open minded to all.  I had a guy call me for two years on and off who kept telling me that one day he was going to come over and pick me up and take me out to dinner.  Everytime he called to take me out to that dinner that he promised it was 9pm at night, during the week when I was trying to get my children in bed.  He was a hard working, never been married, successful and wealthy man who I had great conversation with but it never went past that.  He was not the kind of person that I would have picked out in a crowd but I did give him a chance but he blew it.  Yes, I am a girl who is guilty of being attracted to the bad boys but in knowing that I have tried to correct that.  So far this hasn't worked out either, I find the "honest guys" interesting to talk to and fun to go out with but the sparks are just not there or they do stupid stuff like the guy above did.  I am an outgoing person, and can speak to anyone.  I have more male friends than I do girlfriends but it never seems to go beyond that.  One of my guy friends told me one time, and I find this interesting, that a lot of guys I scare them because I am so independent, could this be true?  Why would this scare someone?  I don't understand this puzzle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  My independence developed because of my divorce and that I didn't have a spouse to depend on and this could be the funny twist of why men see me as unapproachable.  Is this messed up or what.
 
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April 9, 2009, 8:06 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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I'm 41 and barely over it but have used the dating sites.  Men have a smorgasbord of women to pick from and want to sample everything.  I haven't been giving out samples.  I'd like an activities partner just don't want the sex except that everything to men has to do with sex or money and if you aren't giving them either/or they are out of there.  I've never been married and have loved my own company and have plenty of family and friends around the area.  I just bought a 2006 PT Cruiser and am taking a driving test Oct 24th and looking forward to my freedom of taking road trips next year.  I'm always occupied.  I plan on finishing up my associates in science so i can go onto nursing school.  life isn't always about relationships but improving self and getting on with life.  too many people just want to wait to meet someone to make their lives happen.  too bad i'm getting on with mine. 
 This comes across as very bitter. "I want an activities partner, just dont want the sex" Well, a lot of men who are on the dating scene, flat out wont waste their time with you. This is how the system works, and I'm sure Dr, Phil would agree with me here. IF you are up front with them, perhaps one or two would be interested in doing the "just friends" thing, but for the most part, men out there, single are going to want a ROMANTIC partner to do the activities with. It's called "human nature" Enjoy your singlehood and Nursing School. However, the majority of the folks on this website are interested in actual DATING. This potentially involves sex, which you seem terrified of. Life isnt always about improving self and getting on with life. People hate being without a partner. Read some of these posts to find out what I am talking about.
 
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April 11, 2009, 3:09 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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You might have a point some of the time but your reasoning is not always the rule.  When I divorced I specifically looked for just the opposite of what my ex was trying to remain open minded to all.  I had a guy call me for two years on and off who kept telling me that one day he was going to come over and pick me up and take me out to dinner.  Everytime he called to take me out to that dinner that he promised it was 9pm at night, during the week when I was trying to get my children in bed.  He was a hard working, never been married, successful and wealthy man who I had great conversation with but it never went past that.  He was not the kind of person that I would have picked out in a crowd but I did give him a chance but he blew it.  Yes, I am a girl who is guilty of being attracted to the bad boys but in knowing that I have tried to correct that.  So far this hasn't worked out either, I find the "honest guys" interesting to talk to and fun to go out with but the sparks are just not there or they do stupid stuff like the guy above did.  I am an outgoing person, and can speak to anyone.  I have more male friends than I do girlfriends but it never seems to go beyond that.  One of my guy friends told me one time, and I find this interesting, that a lot of guys I scare them because I am so independent, could this be true?  Why would this scare someone?  I don't understand this puzzle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  My independence developed because of my divorce and that I didn't have a spouse to depend on and this could be the funny twist of why men see me as unapproachable.  Is this messed up or what.
 I dont feel that your independence has much to do with anything. A lot of men cannot tolerate clingy women. I'd say part of the reason that you are "unapproachable" is that you are one of these typical women who love the ":bad boys"...A close relative of mine is an "honest guy" an M.D. owns his own beautiful home, travels the globe, and is a wine and beer conneseur. Still, women like you find him "boring" because he is "too nice" They love to be his platonic friend, but when he wants to take things to the next level they tell him things like "I just dont see you that way" meanwhile, they are sleeping with their drug dealer. Then, after they get abused in some way, he gets the phone call from them at 3am, crying as to why he is such a jerk, ect, ad nauseum. This guy who tried to take you out at 9pm, he got rejected because why? How is he supposed to know that you have rugrats, and need to be in bed at 9pm? To a single man, that is ludicrous. It's called "find a sitter so you can carry on with your love life, or prepare to be an old maid"
 
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