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Whether you're new to the dating scene due to a breakup, or just still looking for Mr. Right, dating after 40 has some unique challenges. Share your stories, experiences and advice here.

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August 24, 2008, 3:46 pm PDT

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I have been friends with a man for several years and we work in the same place.  We always flirted but both knew that it would go no further because he was married to the same woman for 25 years and I had been in a serious relationship for 13 years.  Now we have both been single for about 3 years and have become close friends.  On my birthday, he was waiting at my desk at 12:01 am (we work third shift) to be the first to tell me "Happy Birthday".  After work he showed up at my door with a dozen red roses.  Now Im confused.  I always thought that red roses were for wives and girlfriends, so now Im wondering if he's looking for more than just being friends or if he is just truly the nice guy that I alwalys thought he was.

What part of the first in line to wish you a happy b'day, a dozen roses, is it that you are not understanding? If you can't tell if he is interested then you are very nieve. Why are you confused?

 
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August 29, 2008, 1:59 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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I have been friends with a man for several years and we work in the same place.  We always flirted but both knew that it would go no further because he was married to the same woman for 25 years and I had been in a serious relationship for 13 years.  Now we have both been single for about 3 years and have become close friends.  On my birthday, he was waiting at my desk at 12:01 am (we work third shift) to be the first to tell me "Happy Birthday".  After work he showed up at my door with a dozen red roses.  Now Im confused.  I always thought that red roses were for wives and girlfriends, so now Im wondering if he's looking for more than just being friends or if he is just truly the nice guy that I alwalys thought he was.

I'd bet that the flirting while you thought it was "off limits" to go further becuase you were in a relationship and he was married - he was taking that as a signal ofyour interest in flirtation, sex, no strings, no obligations.  When you didn't pursue more than flirting, he was fine with just flirting.

 

But now he's really doing the same thing - what you see as stepped up a notch becuase you're both single...he's presenting you with a situation (roses on your birthday) that let you draw your own conclusion about what he means or intends...and he's going to let you respond with actions and words based on what you want...he'll just take wahtever you're offering if he wants it.  It doesn't obligate him to anything.

 

 
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September 6, 2008, 11:48 am PDT

dating a man who is friends with ex-wife

I have been dating a  man for 2 years. He has been divorced for 6, and previously to that he was married for 20 years. She left him for another man. After they divorced, they remained friends and would go out to eat at least once a week. He began dating other women, and would still visit his ex-wife and attend funtions with her family. This caused  problems in his dating relationships, so to avoid conflict he would quit calling the girls he dated. Finally, he said he realized that he needed to move on. Before we started dating he quit visiting his ex and quit calling her as frequently. When we began dating, he quit almost completely. However, she would  email him asking why he was "casting" her aside. She would ask him to come to dinner. In the emails she would tell him that she wanted to go on a date with him. His response was "lets make it happen". I found these emails and confronted him. He apologized and said that he didn't think he did anything wrong. He said he was in love with me, but still had a friendship with his ex. He said this was all it was, only a friendship. I asked him if he wanted to get back with her and he said no. He promised to change, but I continued to find that he was calling her. Their calls were about 3-4 times weekly, and would last between 20 minutes - sometimes 2 hours. Several times he has told her that he felt that they shouldn't be talking and emailing while they are both dating other people. Her response is always, "OK, I won't call you anymore. If you want to talk to me, the ball is in your court." But if he doesn't call her after a few days, she will bombard him with emails telling him how depressed she is. And that she misses him. She will remind him of their happy times in their marriage. Once when he told her that he needed to quit talking to her, she brought over a bag of old photos of them together, and her familly. She said she had cleaned out a desk and thought he would want these. I told him I felt that she was using the photos and memos to try to drudge up memories in him, but he said her motives were pure.

     I have tried talking to her, asking her to respect our relationship. But she will insist to me that he is the one who is calling her. She will say that she wants him to be happy, and would never interfere in our relationship. She insists that their  friendship is innocent, and should not effect our relationship.

     He has told me that when he talks to her, he doesn't mention me or things we do together because this would upset her. However, he has on occasion phoned her when we have been in an argument. (She is the only thing we argue about). He says he needs to talk about our problems and she is really the only friend he has that he can talk to. She invites him to her nieces soccer games and graduations. He does not want me to go to these with him because he says it would make him and her family uncomfortable.

     Although I care about this man deeply, and apart from this he is a wonderful man I know that I cannot keep dating him. My self-esteem has taking a terrible hit. The continued lies and disregard for my feelings have hurt me almost beyond repair. But my question is, why do these two persist in this? She has been dating the same man since their divorce 6 years ago. If she still has feelings for her ex, why hasn't she ended her other relationship? They talk much more now than before he began dating me. Why didn't she tell him all the things she says now before he began dating me? Is this a game to her? Or does she truly care for him? Why has he never been able to break off ties with his ex?

 
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September 7, 2008, 4:59 pm PDT

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This is my first time on the message boards.  Here is the problem.  Last year I started dating a gentleman I late and loved 25 years ago.  One of the problems then and now is his being constantly late. In the beginning of the new dating, I told him I would not be interested in continuing the relationship if the he was always going to be late.  He wasn't just minutes sometime hours, and I could not deal with it.  He began to be on time but often would be one-half hour or so late, but would call.  He moved some of his things into my  house but not all of his things.  As you might guess, that latest was more and more.  Last week some-time he was over an hour late and we had another discussion of how I view this as abuse and if it continued we would half to separate.  This last Tuesday, Sept 2, he said he was zipping right over, but first he need to go by his mother's house, take out the trast, do a few things for her and would be home ab out 7:00p.m.  This was  at 5p.m.  At 9:15p.m. I called he said he was on this way.  He arrived at 9:45p.m.  When he arrived I had him leave.  I view this lates action as abuse.  He reply time just get away.  I am in a great deal of pain.  Did I over re-act?  Please commit.    Thanks Liz   
 
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September 8, 2008, 11:12 am PDT

Dating After 40

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This is my first time on the message boards.  Here is the problem.  Last year I started dating a gentleman I late and loved 25 years ago.  One of the problems then and now is his being constantly late. In the beginning of the new dating, I told him I would not be interested in continuing the relationship if the he was always going to be late.  He wasn't just minutes sometime hours, and I could not deal with it.  He began to be on time but often would be one-half hour or so late, but would call.  He moved some of his things into my  house but not all of his things.  As you might guess, that latest was more and more.  Last week some-time he was over an hour late and we had another discussion of how I view this as abuse and if it continued we would half to separate.  This last Tuesday, Sept 2, he said he was zipping right over, but first he need to go by his mother's house, take out the trast, do a few things for her and would be home ab out 7:00p.m.  This was  at 5p.m.  At 9:15p.m. I called he said he was on this way.  He arrived at 9:45p.m.  When he arrived I had him leave.  I view this lates action as abuse.  He reply time just get away.  I am in a great deal of pain.  Did I over re-act?  Please commit.    Thanks Liz   

So you have some guy on a pedestal for 25 years that is perpetually late...and he's still late.  And you're wondering why he wont' change and become prompt and prepared for you?

 

Seems like you're picking men with a flaw you won't tolerate, so that you can leave them before they dump you.

 

You view his being late as abuse....it's really that he has no respect for other people's time, never has apparently, and that is why his entire life is as it is - whatever his job, his social life, his family life, etc.....he's never prioritized being on time, and never seen being late as being disrespectful of others and self-centered behavior on his part.

 

He's not going to change because you want him to.

 

 
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September 8, 2008, 11:16 am PDT

Dating After 40

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I have been dating a  man for 2 years. He has been divorced for 6, and previously to that he was married for 20 years. She left him for another man. After they divorced, they remained friends and would go out to eat at least once a week. He began dating other women, and would still visit his ex-wife and attend funtions with her family. This caused  problems in his dating relationships, so to avoid conflict he would quit calling the girls he dated. Finally, he said he realized that he needed to move on. Before we started dating he quit visiting his ex and quit calling her as frequently. When we began dating, he quit almost completely. However, she would  email him asking why he was "casting" her aside. She would ask him to come to dinner. In the emails she would tell him that she wanted to go on a date with him. His response was "lets make it happen". I found these emails and confronted him. He apologized and said that he didn't think he did anything wrong. He said he was in love with me, but still had a friendship with his ex. He said this was all it was, only a friendship. I asked him if he wanted to get back with her and he said no. He promised to change, but I continued to find that he was calling her. Their calls were about 3-4 times weekly, and would last between 20 minutes - sometimes 2 hours. Several times he has told her that he felt that they shouldn't be talking and emailing while they are both dating other people. Her response is always, "OK, I won't call you anymore. If you want to talk to me, the ball is in your court." But if he doesn't call her after a few days, she will bombard him with emails telling him how depressed she is. And that she misses him. She will remind him of their happy times in their marriage. Once when he told her that he needed to quit talking to her, she brought over a bag of old photos of them together, and her familly. She said she had cleaned out a desk and thought he would want these. I told him I felt that she was using the photos and memos to try to drudge up memories in him, but he said her motives were pure.

     I have tried talking to her, asking her to respect our relationship. But she will insist to me that he is the one who is calling her. She will say that she wants him to be happy, and would never interfere in our relationship. She insists that their  friendship is innocent, and should not effect our relationship.

     He has told me that when he talks to her, he doesn't mention me or things we do together because this would upset her. However, he has on occasion phoned her when we have been in an argument. (She is the only thing we argue about). He says he needs to talk about our problems and she is really the only friend he has that he can talk to. She invites him to her nieces soccer games and graduations. He does not want me to go to these with him because he says it would make him and her family uncomfortable.

     Although I care about this man deeply, and apart from this he is a wonderful man I know that I cannot keep dating him. My self-esteem has taking a terrible hit. The continued lies and disregard for my feelings have hurt me almost beyond repair. But my question is, why do these two persist in this? She has been dating the same man since their divorce 6 years ago. If she still has feelings for her ex, why hasn't she ended her other relationship? They talk much more now than before he began dating me. Why didn't she tell him all the things she says now before he began dating me? Is this a game to her? Or does she truly care for him? Why has he never been able to break off ties with his ex?

Theyr'e having an emotional affair, and an ego-flood of "this attention makes me feel so special, so great" - and the beuatiful thing is they're not dating, and never have to risk upsetting or offending the other - so the adoration on both sides continues unabated and with no realistic basis.

 

It's an emotional affair.....becuase they both lack self-esteem and need an ego rush.

 

I'm sure in his mind - he's dating you, sleeping with you, actually having a reality-based relationship with you - so this fantasy/emotional affair is not the same thing, doesn't fall into the same category and why should he give it up?

 

 
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September 9, 2008, 3:56 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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new topic-hmmm.  Dating after 40? Nonexistent.  Anyone else having any luck?

I am 44 and on match. com right know and having  no luck on finding mr right.
 
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September 10, 2008, 4:58 am PDT

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Theyr'e having an emotional affair, and an ego-flood of "this attention makes me feel so special, so great" - and the beuatiful thing is they're not dating, and never have to risk upsetting or offending the other - so the adoration on both sides continues unabated and with no realistic basis.

 

It's an emotional affair.....becuase they both lack self-esteem and need an ego rush.

 

I'm sure in his mind - he's dating you, sleeping with you, actually having a reality-based relationship with you - so this fantasy/emotional affair is not the same thing, doesn't fall into the same category and why should he give it up?

 

So, is there no hope for our relationship? Is the only option I have to leave him? We have talked about this until I am blue in the face. I have been so distraught that I have actually hit him. At the moment, we are not seeing each other, but he has turned the issue around on me. He says the reason we cannot date is not because of his relationship with his ex wife, but how I react to it. How am I supposed to react? I have tried talking about it, and letting him know how much it hurts me. He will promise to make changes, and he will swear to me that he has no contact with her, but I have seen phone bills that show they talk 3-5 times weekly. Sometimes 2-3 times a day. I did break off the relationship, but was there anything else I could have done? I still love him and miss him terribly. Is there no way to get him to see that his relationship with her is inappropriate? It has already ruined other relationships for him.
 
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September 11, 2008, 11:59 pm PDT

Dating After 40

 This my first time on the meassage boards...felt like venting...so here goes: I am turning the big 40 this year (UGH!) I am a divorced mother of two kids..my daughter is 14 and my son is 5. I love them more than life itself. I am a female police officer, and work crazy hours, that i know affects my kids greatly. i work as many part time security jobs as i can fit in, trying to pick the ones that wont take too much more time away from my kids. I feel that my life is consumed by taking care of everyone else, and I am in the background screaming "hey! what about me'! I am very much a relationship type person....and miss that very much. I haven't dated in 2 years, simply because i have such limited time. How do i meet someone with my crazy schedule? Most people meet someone while at work...hence my dilemma: in my job my choices are either other cops (which from what i've learned about that, i would rather not go there!) or criminals lol...which I'm sure is not a good idea either! I have tried the on line thing...but...oh, thats scary! I have a strong faith, and keep waiting for God to bring that special someone to me. i have been intoduced to some very attracive, nice men, but as soon as we try to make plans, and i have to fit them in sometimes three weeks from then...they are honest and say they can't handle dating someone who is not available very often. Sooooo....I kind of quit even trying, and have accepted my life as being the police officer by night, and mom all other times....I would love to find a man who is handsome, secure in himself, trustworthy, and patient enough to see me when I'm available, but not "screw around" when i can't be there for long periods....good luck with that huh? lolol...Any suggestions???
 
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September 19, 2008, 1:47 pm PDT

Nonexistent

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new topic-hmmm.  Dating after 40? Nonexistent.  Anyone else having any luck?


I haven't been on a date in a very long time. There is nothing wrong with me except that I don't find there are many options other than internet dating. Plus, I think at 40 most people are in bed at 8pm.
 
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