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February 8, 2006, 9:53 am PST

a quiet, tearful thank you

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I, too, was confused and concerned by those posts.  However, a few minutes spent researching the gentleman's name provided me with the answers. 

  

Way to go, Lemon!  Keep up the good work.  You never fail to impress me with your passion and knowledge. 

  

Lyn 

  

  

  

To give truth and hope to someone in despair is one of life's  gifts.  And strangely enough,  

  

we who have come close to losing hope can be of great help to others who are watching their own  

  

hope fade into oblivion. 

  

  

  

What was it that someone said or did when my hope was at ebb tide and I felt it slipping silently away?      There was but one person  for a brief moment.   

  

From personal experience I can testify that often hope comes back into our souls from simply spoken words,  from a gentle hug or caring touches, or most of all from one insightful line written in a note that reaches beyond our pain and brings with it a surg of hope from within us. 

  

I know the truth of this. 

  

If I can in life sustain and encourage until hope returns to another,   dying spirits may gently be renewed.    

  

  

I have mentioned before, a long time ago........I wear a bracelet on my left wrist......with a small medallion engraved  "spirit'  .........I continue to wear it  for the many years  since  my own "spirit" was renewed. 

  

  

Never, ever will I allow my "spirit" to escape ever again.  

  

  

Many are the "everyday angels" that come to this site.  And you Lynn, must count yourself amoung them. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 10:36 am PST

I hate it...

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Well, Q..........I posted a long one to you.......and hit some darn key on this thing and its gone. 

  

I'm not going to bother to post again. 

  

I don't think it will matter anyway. 

  

  

when I do that!   

  

Type a wonderful fact filled post and "poof" it's gone. 

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 10:39 am PST

diamond05

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Thank you Coco - I'm back. 

I so want a normal relationship and at this point I would just wish I could be quiet and not say a word and then maybe it would all change. 

  

WELCOME BACK!!  Glad you are here again.  Why do you wish you could be quiet and then maybe it would all change?  I saw a bumber sticker on a car that I can't quite remember exactly what it said but... "quiet women don't make history" was the gist of it! 
 

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February 8, 2006, 10:44 am PST

stop it .....stop it.....

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I am reading through all of the messages on here that were posted after 5pm - I want to read all of them. 

Lemondrop - thank you and Thank you Cocomama for the resources. 

Last night was the same. I did end up going home and as I tried to talk to him it escalated to a point where I took off my rings adn gave them back to him. 

Today it hurts that I did that. He won't give them back now cause he said "I gave them to him." He made me so hurt and angry that I did that and went upstairs so it would just stop. 

When he came up to get something out of the bathroom he just said "grow up and stop crying." 

I went home at lunch today to try to talk to him - and it was met with yet another fight blaming me that after he said "I Do" I took all control of our marriage. 

It was 11 years and for me to sit here and tell you that it was all his fault and doing would be a lie. I was there too in the marriage but I wasn't going to bars. I almost came close to divorcing him too - but didn't. 

Just thank you so much - it did help yesterday and I'm here reading the rest of the posts. 

  

I have told him to not call me names - that it hurts and his famous word is "whatever" that shuts down the whole conversation. 

Then he's blaming me for not gaining weight. I told him what the heck...I cook  - you eat...it isn't my problem. I mean come on. 

Then he said he hates the cats - wants them gone. So what do I do there. 

Will that fix it. Part of me wants to do it - it'll break my heart...but it would fix it - or would it. 

It hurts. 

  

  

  

Stop it, stop it.......those precious cats are your pets.....members of the family......don't you see, he is removing your world.......inch by inch......anything that is you or that you treasure. 

  

No, no......your pets are your loving and beautiful family, also. 

  

Many, many ABUSERS are jealous of children, pets, family, friends, co-workers, colleagues.  Very , very typical.    Anyone and anything that you love or want in your life.       

  

HE IS TRYING TO SHUT YOU DOWN.   TAKING AWAY YOUR WORLD. 

  

HE IS ATTEMPTING TO STRIP YOU OF WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU REPRESENT. 

  

His actions are willful and intentional. 

  

YOUR PETS ARE YOUR PETS........YOU AND YOUR PETS HAVE RIGHTS. 

  

If you think that removing family members , pets or anything that is part of YOUR world will fix anything or fix him, you are not thinking straight.    That is wrong.........NOTHING IS EVER ENOUGH, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK YOU MIGHT DO OR COULD DO.....IT IS NEVER THE ANSWER, NEVER ENOUGH.......................ABUSERS,  DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND NOTHING WILL MAKE THEM STOP OR CHANGE WHAT THEY SAY OR DO.  

  

He is attempting to strip you of your very existence........of who you are and what you want.    

  

You have got to educate yourself on these and other dynamics of his ongoing ABUSE. 

  

And his feeling like a victim.........well that's typical of ABUSERS, too. 

  

Come on Diamond........come on.......these are his tactics. 

  

Stop doubting your own "gut" feelings........step back and look at this situation for what it is. 

  

"Whatever" is verbal abuse.   And he uses it to shut down the conversation, thus he is in CONTROL of it and you.  

  

  

It hurts, because its ABUSIVE AND WRONG. 

  

  

Those precious, beautiful felines are your most loving and precious pets.     And he knows that, he is trying to discard anything in YOUR WORLD but HIM. 

  

He is NOT the first nor will he be the last Batterer or Abuser to do or try to do that. 

  

  

Where are you on educating yourself on his tactics and ABUSE.........what are you using to EDUCATE yourself on this abuse? 

  

Abuse is about POWER AND CONTROL. 

  

You are not going to be able to reason with him......he intentionally doesn't want to be reasonable.....he wants  CONTROL over YOU. 

  

Don't share you new found knowledge with him.  Its yours, just yours. 

  

I suggest that you see a counselor for YOURSELF so you can sort thru this ABUSE, a counselor 

  

 who is learned in the dynamics of Domestic Abuse...........also talking to an abuse shelters hot-line  

  

  

or advocate is free and they can give you more education.....close to home......in a timely fashion.  

  

  That is your gift to YOURSELF.........and should be kept to YOURSELF when and while you do it. 

  

How are you protecting yourself from his finding this information that you gather here.  When you are educating yourself....you really need to be careful about  not allowing him access to what you  are in the process of learning. 

  

They have many out reach resources that you can use and it will help you.......even if you are not ready to do some permanent thing ...........You have got to undo his brainwashing. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 10:50 am PST

Hi Mari...

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I think a part of me still lives in denial and has a hard time realizing what's really going on. Because that means that I have to make big changes in ly life and I have such a hard time with change. But my instincts are telling me that this is wrong even if I may be wrong at times. His reaction to things are way off. But it makes it real hard because he doesn't seem to be the "typical abuser" like so many other guys. My dh has a real good education and a well paying job. He's very smart and responsible and takes care of all our bills and is caring most of the time. He doesn't really drink and never goes out to bars. It's just the way he gets mad that I can't stand anymore. And the not knowing how he's going to react to certain things that make me feel unsafe. It's causing me to cry so much that my eyes are all swollen and I don't have an appetite. I feel that I'm wasting my life away fighting.

Denial is a deep, deep fog. 

  

The best way to lift the fog is to EDUCATE your self about abuse.  There are many, many books, and web sites that talk about what is and what is not abusive behavior. 

  

When you live in a relationship and feel UNSAFE, that ought to be a HGUE red flag. 

  

I do understand when you say that change is hard.  I bet it's even scary, isn't it? 

  

But think about it this way... if you don't DO SOMETHING about your situation, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE.  You will continue to spiral down. 

  

His reaction... and I am going to make an assumption here... is unpredictable, isn't it?  Some days he'll blow up and other days he won't.  Is this right? 

  

This kind of behavior is done to KEEP YOU off balance and to KEEP YOU in doubt. 

  

I bet there is a certain amount of trapped feeling too. 

  

Your hubby seemingly wants to keep you ONE-DOWN and I can tell you from experience that you WILL rebel.   

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 10:52 am PST

BRAVO! Salty!

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This is my first post on this site.  I survived being sexually abused by my father.  The abuse started around the age of five and continued until I was 17.  Being threatened that I'd be killed and that my mother, sisters and brother would all go into a situation with no money, or all of us being sent to foster care kept me quiet.  My mother, who worked, didn't seem to have a clue what was going on.  I left home the day after I turned 18, married my husband and started a "real" life.  For almost 20 years I told myself that I was okay, but I wasn't.  I started with a therapist, which helped a little but it wasn't until about 2 years later, lots of anti-depressants, which I am still on, that I finally found out about EMDR.  This is a process kind of like bio feedback.  It worked for me and made me a whole person.  I was told by one Dr. that due to the years of abuse, that my seratonin levels would never be like a normal person, so I take medication and probably always will.   

  

If you haven't found the right therapist, keep looking and ask about EMDR. 

I am so glad you posted about EMDR... it is a therapy that really can help! 

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 10:57 am PST

Emotional blackmail...

Quote From: maribelle5

I'm sorry I didn't quite understand you. Well, I agree with you to try and see it his way. But I also started wondering if I sometimes DO do things on purpose but subconsciously if you know what I mean. I'm getting tired of feeling submissive to him and I think there's a side of me that is starting to rebelling subconsciously. Maybe he's feeling that and that's what makes him say things like that. But I hate the way he says:"are you being tough with me" and "are you trying to stand up for yourself"?? Obviously he wants me to be afraid of him and he wants me to be submissive to him. He's so contradicitive. He tells me to stop crying and be tough when I'm sad. But then when we're fighting he doesn't want me to be tough and strong. I dare not be the strong woman standing up to him then.

These:  :"are you being tough with me" and "are you trying to stand up for yourself" are IMPLIED THREATS or VAGUE THREATS... it's emotional blackmail. 

  

Essentially he is telling you that if you do not knuckle under and stay your appointed ONE-DOWN position, you will pay a price for it.  And that price will not be pleasant. 

  

This kind of behavior is BULLYING. 

  

No wonder you are crying and in so much pain. 

  

I can -almost- guarantee you that you will rebel and when you do, he will "up the ante". 

  

Abuse escalates, maribelle, and if you do start asserting your RIGHT to a happy life, I think you need to be prepared for an escalation. 

  

Do you have a SAFETY PLAN?  Q 

 
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February 8, 2006, 11:01 am PST

Your instincts are ACCURATE!

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That's part of my denial. And just being able to get through the day and pretend like nothing happened. But my body and soul keep on reminding me that something's wrong. It's because it's not "that bad". But I guess it's bad enough.....I always seem to think "that it could be worse" and I should hang in there. But what if it can "be better"????

In order for things to get better in your relationship BOTH of you have to work toward change. 

  

Is hubby willing to do that?  Is willing to take a good hard look and see what HE is doing to contribute to the problems in the relationship? 

  

Are you willing to do that?  Do you know how you contribute to the problems in your relationship? 

  

Sure, your relationship CAN BE a whole lot worse, BUT you are MISERABLE NOW. 

  

Don't you feel that YOU SHOULD MATTER? 

  

Why is it that hubby think you shouldn't matter? 

  

I can tell you all day long that YOU DO MATTER (and you DO), but until you REALLY believe it, change may be illusive.  

  

 

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February 8, 2006, 11:01 am PST

Your welcome back to diamond and in keeping

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WELCOME BACK!!  Glad you are here again.  Why do you wish you could be quiet and then maybe it would all change?  I saw a bumber sticker on a car that I can't quite remember exactly what it said but... "quiet women don't make history" was the gist of it! 

in keeping with that , your post  cocoa regarding the bumper sticker...."quiet women don't make history" 

  

  

A sad farewell to Coretta Scott King a woman who we embraced over the years as a strong civil rights activist, one who embodied the soul and ideals of the modern civil rights movement. 

  

Where would any of us be if no woman ever mustered up the courage to stand tall , against all odds, with passion and conviction. 

  

My flag is flying at half -staff in her memory.    

  

May she rest in peace.  

  

  

  

  

 

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February 8, 2006, 11:06 am PST

Abuse

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That's the thing, I care so much about him to where it's like I just don't want him to do anything because I don't want anybody pressuring him into anything. I don't trust the outside world for nothing. He sees that I'm caring but I guess it's just gone way too far. 

  

He does tell me all the time that he "loves" me, but I sometimes wonder what his definition of love is. He complains about how controlling I am quite a bit but then other days it's like it doesn't bother him at all. I don't understand that... 

  

I try so hard to not look back in the past, but I can't come to senses when everything is coming back to me now. It is hard to stop looking in the past when everything that I'm experiencing now is only because of what happened to me. If it weren't for my brother, I would be a totally different person today, and that's what I can't get over. I get mad and upset all the time. It just won't get off my mind.  

  

Thanks so much Wade, I really appreciate you trying to help. You are definitely right that what happened is defining who I am and taking over my life. This isn't who I am or who I want to be. But as much as I want to change, every time I try to take a step forward, I get sick to my stomach and go back to my controlling ways. I have seen some changes in how he is with me also. He is going to end up a lot worse, if I don't stop this. Since I'm controlling, he is also... and it isn't getting better, it's getting worse. I can't tell him to stop, because I'm the same way. So basically it's just become our way of life, and a habit. 

I honor your attempts to "get over it" That takes a lot of courage and character:  

  

I am not sure what techniques you are using in trying to move on (just trying not to think about it, or just thinking positive thoughts, won't always cut it), but I have some ideas if you are interested. 

  

To begin with, if you could write down the following, and put it on your bathroom mirror as a dayly reminder, it might help: 

  

1. At present, you are doing the very best that you can in dealing with your emotions. 

2. You want to do better and be more skilled in dealing with your emotions. 

3. You need to do better, try harder, and be more motivated to change 

4.You may not have created all your own problems, but you have to solve them anyway 

5. You are currently unsatisfied with the way in which you deal with your emotions 

6. You must learn new emotional skills and behaviors in all relevant contexts 

  

These assumptions we all may be benefited to have about ourselves are taken from Dr. Spadlin's book ""Don't Let Emotions Run Your Life" 

  

When you agree to these assumptions about yourself, we can move on to the purpose of emotions, and how certain emotions can be healthy and productive, while other emotions can be unhealthy and destructive. 

  

What do you say?  -Wade- 

 
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