For those of you that have followed my "saga" I need help navigating the seperation. He lives in another town with two of my older girls (long story) he has used and manipulated them into BELIEVING him, and he drug them in the middle and one hit me and the other lied to me about his whereabouts on OUR property the day I locked him out. (the only way I could hold down the fort so that my youngest could have HER things and I mine, so we could attempt to function in spite of his "abuses". ) and self centered, all about ME behaviors, and the blame, lies and set ups began BIG TIME, in order to "punish" my inability to deal with his self involvement to to determent of all reality.
I did not "kick them out" as he claims, but did tell the oldest, I have warned you that this pot was about to boil over for the last six years, and I KNEW he would drag you in and you "fell" for it, and decided to lie to me when it absolutely wasn't necessary, and now he has done this and put you in the middle, so you need to be making plans to get your own place as soon as you can. I will NOT be lied to about my husbands whereabouts if I ask. (he ran to her apartment in back which is the equivelent of staging his war from one of the childrens rooms, I specifically asked (make that told) him DO NOT INVOLVE THE OLDER GIRLS IN OUR WAR, they have their own lives and you are a grown man, I will work with you on the MONEY, and figuring out how we are going to afford a seperation.
It is NOT their concern, go get a hotel room, heres 300.00, then 500.00 and he lied and took out a 900.00 loan in our names, and all the while claimed I would not give him any "money" but locked him out penniless. WRONG. I wasn't going to break the bank as it was towards the end of the month, and frankly I though his whole bs act, didn't deserve to be funded to the degree the youngest and I were left "grubbing" so he could "make a point". I was, however, willing to make a plan, starting the next month........to see what could be done but he ended up with over 1600.00 so he was NOT penniless as he claimed. He "camped out" sleeping in the shed, daughters apt, the greenhouse and the lawn chairs "hunting for sympathy" and telling everyone I wouldn't give him a dime of his own money........LIES LIES and more lies.
He has claimed in a month we will "date", and in the meantime continues to tell me when he is coming over, "if it is all right with you" to you guessed it BURN LEAVES. I have told him numerous times, burning leaves 24/7 is one of the main reasons we no longer got along, it has become one of his obsessions and for several years now I have had "the yard" as a rival to get anything else out of him. Many things on the property (not to mention our relationship) are falling apart, and his response to EVERYTHING is to mow, rake and burn 24/7 and ignore EVERYTHING else. That and his lies, and money bs and being totally rejected in the most cruel ways finally pushed me to "turn the locks" and reject his total rejection of all other aspects of our lives.
I am perfectly willing to "let it go" and not have a THING to do with him at this point which is why I risked turning the locks, it was the ONLY way to be rid of his abusive mind games. He refused to leave, and I wasn't going to on the advice of several attornies who told me leaving the house meant I didn't want it, and could hurt my chances..........not to mention I have a minor child going to school and I would NOT disrupt her further by going on the lamb...........just to avoid his bs.
Divoricing is the absolute worst thing we could do financially, we did both agree on that. However, he is believe it or not.........expecting to come onto the property ANYTIME he states he will to BURN LEAVES. I have repeatedly told him that is NOT a major priority with me and never really was, and that he is obsessed with it. LOOK at our lives, we are seperated, our childrens lives are in shambles, the cops are involved, the finances strapped and in jeapordy................we have fought non stop for years due to his "stuff" and all he can think to do to manage or "fix" or move on, is to come to the house and do the VERY thing that caused so much additional contention in the first place? What is wrong with his brain?
He actually acts like this is a "snit" I am having and if he just keeps plugging away at this I will be somehow thankful, or it is "courting me" and a contrived way to serve himself while purporting to be helping me, when I didn't even ask for THIS!. What is more, he is taking one child to her job in this town, (she did not get to take the car she is supposed to be paying us for with her as I would not support her disrespect by continuing to tote the note, after she became physical with me.) and he comes over to our house (one he no longer lives in) to kill time and save on gas, he comes in the morning and stays till time to pick her up, on the days she doesn't work.............I hear NOTHING from him at all. What in the hell is this man thinking.............or why isn't he?
I know from past experience in dealing with him, better humor him to a degree or else. I am currently trying to manage this seperation (which he is working solely to his advantage) as now he actually thinks he can do what he said he would, and come back to take care of the yard and the pool, both of which he obsessed about and made full time jobs, which like I said was bones of contention, that contributed to the complete breakdown of the marriage that was on pretty rocky ground anyway.
Oh, he barely says hi to his minor child...........and shows NO interest in maintaining ANY sembelence of a relationship with her, which I am glad of in a way as he would taint her views of me with lies too, but it is sick the way he "nurtures the yard and leaves" all day...........and barely says HI, to her. Sick, Sick This hurts her some, but then she says she doesn't like talking to him..........at her age (12) I think she has it figured out what a sicko he has become, and frankly how he has USED everyone and caused so much unhappiness in our family.
So, how do I make him see what he thinks is helpful...........(I can burn or forget it for now) is just putting bs back into our lives, and that if I want something or his "help" wait till I ask, don't TELL me what he is going to do and then delude himself into believeing I asked for him to do this.
Help..................again I am losing my mind over his one way stuff. Do I have to involve the "law" and get a restraining order..............I risk hearing nothing about my other girls, and now have probably really pissed him off, and there WILL be a payback for sure. Again, we are talking a very large amount of money that people need to keep their wits about them or we could lose it all............and hurting us both and the minor child in the long run.................Can these guys EVER be reasonable? And how in the heck can he STILL be so dellusional that what is needed now, is him burning leaves?
I told him, this "rubbing my nose" in one of my gripes is totally sadistic and clearling not "reconcilliation" or even remotely trying to be amicable.
It worked so well (his lies) that the oldest took pity on him, after he INSISTED, and let him sleep in a chair in her living room, and came into the main house and FLAT LIED that she would rather not say, if in fact he was still on the property. I knew he was, as his car was here and I had seen him minutes ago. She even asked, "if I do see him can I take a magazine out to him" WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you lying? This is between your father and I and I have TOLD him to leave, PLEASE and to NOT involve you.
Do NOT lie to me, and pretend you don't know where he is............supporting him in any way allows him to manipulate us all in this sick game. Ok, so you KNOW he is in your apartment, and what can any of us do about it anyway, I knew he would run hide behind one or more of you girls, so why lie? She claimed she wasn't lying. I asked if she had seen him and she said, "I would rather not say" and then asked if she could take him a magazine!!!!!! Knowing I was locking him out, as I just couldn't take his head games anymore. So now, he is playing them big time, pitting me and her against each other. How sick.......so I did ask her to make a choice.........to lie to me to cover for him.........not to ..get involved by lying for him or leave. She left to live with him. His bs totally messed with her life. Does he care at all, no.............she is helping support him and pay HIS bills and there is NO need for this at all. Especially when he took out a 900.00 loan, that he LIED about. She probably doesn't know that, and wouldn't listen if I tried to "tell her the truth" regarding how she was used.
Well, he played it to the hilt and so this daughter who was saving to be ABLE to move out as soon as she secured another teaching post for the following year, is spending ALL her savings contributing to the house he now lives in. The youngest soon followed...............as the stress of his lies and bs finally resulted in her having another violent breakdown directed at me. I called the cops..........as I told her I would if she EVER got violent with me for ANY reason.
He acts oblivious to all of this he has created, and still expects to burn leaves. Is it possible to have him evaluated, incarcerated or charged with anything. I actually thought once we didn't live together the bs would die down NOT UNLESS HE GETS HIS WAY or can make someone pay. At this time I am totally unprepared to continue haggling over his burning leaves as if it is THE most important thing going on here. I have NO choice to either no pay the bills, or get legal help. I tried to humor him, but the whole thing is making me LIVID and totally unable to stomach the site of such idiocy. So much for "amicible" seperation. I KNOW he cannot be told no, and I also know the courts will be of little help to me and the reality is the money IS his, and he can "put me out" by stopping it from coming here. He actually thinks he has "bought" the right...........to be an ass. He is lying to our middles oldest and painting that he is working on reconcilliation with me, while pulling this bs..............again set up to look "impossible" when the reality is he is NUTS.
This was my last resort after years of asking for easily done things, the main two being STOP involving the girls in our battles, hiding behind them using them and telling your lies to them (lies easily proven) and two spend some time on the relationship, NOT just what YOU want, and three I don't work for you now that you have retired, and four, I am spending OUR money on this family get over it or work with me to make the changes needed to be more frugal, and one thing is to EXPECT more responsibility from the girls besides covering your arse, everytime we fight. Clearly he manipulated all this into "burn more leaves", a MAJOR sore point as no matter WHAT I asked for or expressed I needed or we needed or the family needed........his response was to isolate himself in the yard and burn leaves.
Everything was going to hell in a handbasked and ALL he would attempt to do of his own accord was piddling yard work 24/7, while everything else was either "stolen" from me (jobs I don't mind doing or have always done, ie cooking, cleaning, and being mom, I wanted HIM to be more manly and to realize that OTHER stuff was also important...........and that he had let it all suffer due to workalcoholism. Now that he was retire "no excuses" time to deal with the OTHER aspects of living. He wasn't interested AT all. He began to be a bigger ass, and had NO intention of melding into our lives, he set out to destroy and reinvent everything to center around HIM, and what he wanted and ALL he wanted was to escape into the yard (piddling stuff) just like he escaped into work. NOT!!!!!