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February 23, 2006, 3:32 pm PST

That's PERFECT...

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usually i wait  for him to say some sarcastic, or hurtful comment. thats why it doenst happen because i wait for that plus a good time, that will never happen. i should just say. i cant and wont do this anymore. i want a divorce.

This is PERFECT: 

  

"i cant and wont do this anymore. i want a divorce." 

  

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!  PERFECT, just like you M4L!!!   

  

Just remember to have a safety plan -- in case he escalates, okay?  Put an extra set of keys in a safe place.  Have a friend call you and check on you.  Just in case.  Something like that. 

  

Plan B's are always a good idea. 

  

Gotta run.  Stay safe!  You can do this!

 
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February 23, 2006, 3:41 pm PST

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Well there are alot of other ways you can go about this: 

  

You can tell him face-to-face and LEAVE. 

You can write him a letter and LEAVE. 

You can leave him a voice mail and LEAVE. 

You can call him after you LEAVE. 

or you can just LEAVE. 

  

Notice a common denominator???  That'd be LEAVING! 

  

Thanks for the heads up.  I generally don't post during the weekend either.  I will be worrying about you though... so if you can check in, please do. 

  

Don't try to fix him or make feel any better about the end.  You can't rescue him out of this -- and this is your bad habit.  STOP doing that.  He's a big boy.  He can handle this. 

  

It's OKAY to be scared.  It's OKAY to be nervous.  Feel those feelings!  Breathe IN.  Breathe out.  Let the feelings wash on through. 

  

Breathe IN.  Breathe out.  (don't  hyperventilate!)  Let the feelings just move on through you. 

  

Then one last deep breath... walk in and TELL HIM! 

  

Short and concise?  YES!   

  

Short and concise is:  "It's over.  I'm divorcing you."   

  

You don't owe him any explanation.  And you need to MEAN the words you say.  If you want to give him an explanation just know that you are doing that make yourself feel better not him (and that's OKAY). 

  

The more you drag it out... the worse it's gonna hurt for everyone. 

  

Just remember... the MOST humane thing you can do is END IT as quickly and as cleanly as possible. 

  

JUST DO IT!!! 

  

I'm rooting for you.  You CAN DO THIS!!!! 

i will tell him face to face. last time i left almost 3 years ago. i told him and then literlly 1 minute later my stepfather and then browther in law where there to help me move my stuff. involving other people really got him upset. i've proimsed to tell him when i leave. otherwise he wil be more angry, and say it as hurt.  i'm not going to try tomake him feel better. i try to get him to at least accept it temporaily. i know a few  days later he will go back but as long as he temporality agrees and the conversation ends and the tension is gone then i can be okay. he's gotten explanations many times. i told him in januray i wanted toleave and in the end of januray again.t his time i will mean it and i will leave, and my things will leave and my kitten will leave. 

i can just do it. 

 
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February 23, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

Abuse

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This is PERFECT: 

  

"i cant and wont do this anymore. i want a divorce." 

  

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!  PERFECT, just like you M4L!!!   

  

Just remember to have a safety plan -- in case he escalates, okay?  Put an extra set of keys in a safe place.  Have a friend call you and check on you.  Just in case.  Something like that. 

  

Plan B's are always a good idea. 

  

Gotta run.  Stay safe!  You can do this!

if it escalets and i have to leave then i will go to a hotel. beacuse if ihave to leave my familys homes would not be safe as he knows where they live. i will also take my kitten with me beacuse he has shown he can be mean to my kitten, thogh not the other one,... wierd. thanks a bunch.
 
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February 23, 2006, 3:57 pm PST

Thank you all for your support...

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I WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT consider reconciliation with your husband until he has done the following: 

  

1)  Been sober for at least 2 months, 

2) attends AA regularly and indicates that that is a long term commitment, 

3) recognizes/acknowledges that, not only does he have a drinking problem, but also a SERIOUS anger problem, 

4) completes an anger managment course, 

5) has been in therapy for at least 6 months and indicates a long term commitment, 

6) and STOPS blaming you for everything. 

  

And even then I probably wouldn't go back to him -- but, hey, that's just me! 

  

YES, controlling is a form of emotional and possibly verbal abuse. 

Screaming is VERBAL abuse. 

Blaming is emotional abuse. 

  

You deserve a BETTER MAN than this!  Q 

  

He will not change he will not budge...it's already been proven and he has blatently said "I will not change anything about myself...I am fine the way I am"  so there's my answer... 

  

Thanks again for your support and helpful words! 

  

Eve 

 
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February 23, 2006, 5:19 pm PST

not alone is great.....

My first time to this board or any board for that matter...I have read this board a few times so I really feel the content is helpful to many people even those just browsing.....Well my story is that I am in  an emotionally/verbally abusive marriage for 2 1/2 years  and have no one to turn to for any advice ....Since I have never been around anyone that has been a good marriage example it makes it extremely difficult to even know what is right and wrong in a marriage... My husband is a Jekyll and Hyde too....I thought it was just him...how scary is it that there is so many of them....I am made to feel like it is my fault he is that way too....Counseling has been a joke for us so far and I just do not know what to do or how to emotionally be strong enough for the things I am dealing with....How do you get past the emotions of what he wants you to feel( worthless, stupid, no good and weak)? I was a very strong person before we got married and just do not know how to find myself when all i constantly hear are negatives.....Any ideas would be great.....I look forward to being involved in this board...with you...
 

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February 23, 2006, 9:16 pm PST

a question for you

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Met the best man in the world on the internet, communicated for 7 months, then met in person...Something felt "off" when I saw his home for the first time! I blew it off. 

  

 He seemed moody, I blew it off because I'm moody sometimes, too. 

  

 Then I found pot,... he said he quit drugs a long time ago.He said he quit pot, too, except this one time...I believed him.BUT SINCE THEN, I've found wrapping papers (pot stuff) all over his house...he just got mad & said I was accusing him & I could either BELIEVE him or NOT, it was my choice. 

  

. A week ago, we got into an argument and he bullied me. He said "Where are YOU going!!!" He grabed the pants roughly out of my hands and threw them on the floor. He jumped on my stomache and sat there, all 185 pounds of him. I said "Get OFF OF me!" but he just pulled one hand up above my head, and then another hand, and pinned me to the bed like that! He told me to calm down. I cried and asked him 4 times to get OFF of me, but he just kept telling me to calm down. Then he said "FINE!!!!" and got off of me,slammed the door, and stormed out. UNFORTUNATELY, he stormed right back in. He said, "So, I guess you want to get on a plane now, RIGHT?" He said it was OVER between us if I stepped on that plane. 

  

 If you could see the man he WAS and how much he's done for me, you would think he was Prince Charming! The man who prays with me every night and loves the LORD with his whole heart. 

  

  

IS THIS NORMAL GUY-BEHAVIOR??? 

A question for you. 

  

Are you outside the USA? 

  

And the other question, did you travel there recently? 

  

Also, are you safe? 

  

  

Hello, please get back to us. 

  

Thank you. 

  

  

 
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February 23, 2006, 10:43 pm PST

Verbal Abuse

When my husband is in a good mood, everything goes alright. But any time he is confronted with something he may have done wrong or needs to do better, he gets depressed, angry, and yells and slams doors and throws things. He has a huge self-esteem/anger problem and the two feed into each other. After he blew up at me last week (4 times), I confronted him with his abusive behavior and told him that it had to stop if our relationship is going to survive. The next day he told me that he almost commited suicide as a result. 

I want to make our marriage work, inspite of everything, I still love him. But I can't stand this any more. Any time I try to talk to him about improving our relationship, he takes it as a personal insult and either starts going off on me over every stupid little thing, or gets depressed and suicidal. He refuses to get help or talk to anyone but me about it and gets angry when I turn to my friends for support. He will read stuff I find on the internet about it, but is unwilling to be accountable to anyone to follow through and make real changes. I've been living with this for almost 5 years and I just emotionally can not take it any more. Either this changes and in like the next 3 months, or he risks losing me. Whether or not I leave is his decision, not mine. It depends on whether or not he's willing to take responsibility for his behavior and get help and really talk to me. I am ready to throw out almost everything about the way our relationship works and talk through everything and build a new and stronger relationship, but I can't do that by myself. He has to change too. 

Is there anyone else out there in a similar boat. 

 
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February 24, 2006, 4:32 am PST

thanks again

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The book that helped me the most was this one:  CoDependent No More by Melodie Beatty. 

  

It is a book about alcoholics and their enablers.    For me, the word "enabler" is a misnomer.  A better word is "tolerater". 

  

My Ex and I were not drinkers.  But we were DEFINITELY co-dependent.  He was an abusive person and I "tolerated" it.  So I just replaced the word alcohol with abuse and it WORKED for me. 

  

I remained in the relationship during alot of my recovery -- so I understan about staying. 

  

I imagine once you further along with your recovery -- you will figure out for yourself that YOU MATTER and you will choose not to associate with abusers anymore.   

  

This book taught me how to stop tolerating, how to set boundaries, how to LET GO of the Ex and his crazy behavior and how to take the focus off of him and put it BACK on ME and MY life. 

  

I also went to counseling WITHOUT hubby.  I have had about 6-7 different counselors.  Counseling was the SINGLE BEST thing that helped me to heal.  I'm not talking about marital counseling -- I'm talking about YOUR OWN counselor.  Marital counseling oftentimes DOES NOT help a victim of abuse.  Individual counseling DOES. 

  

Other books helped too.  Coco has a put together a great book list.  Ask her to post it . 

i appreciate your advice.  i have went to some of the sites u posted for someone else.  im not sure if i have ever been in a healthy relationship(according to all the definitions of emotioal abuse).  my father is a alcoholic to this day.  at 34 years old it still breaks my heart that my dad doesnt/isnt able to love me.  my current husband was the first guy ever to actually make me feel loved.  now he is turning out to be like the rest.  i have a long healing road ahead of me.  you will never know how much your positive words have helped.  are you a counselor now? 

  

 
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February 24, 2006, 7:26 am PST

I'm ashamed to admit....

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Kids KNOW.  They know there is tension in the house.  Likely he has heard more than you know.  If he hears you being verbally abused, then HE has also been verbally abused. 

  

If you think you are shielding your children, THINK AGAIN. 

  

Here is a website on how abuse affects children:   

http://www.acadv.org/children.html 

http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/verbalabuse 

 

A fearful, and anxious 7 year old should be a RED FLAG for you.   

  

Is it possible that your SON is being abused in your absence?  And to afraid to tell? 

  

  

But I have felt my h abuses the boys to some degree in front of me!  I have seen him push them around, he will hit them with the belt if they misbehave in school, he'll "flick' them in the head, etc.  For too long I allowed myself to believe it wasn't so bad. (I grew up with some of the same stuff from my parents and never felt abused,)  I have on occassion spoke up about it, he says that I'm wrong, that we need to not do that to each other.  If one disciplines the children than both parents need to stand behind it.  Of course, if I need to discipline the boys I take away priveleges and use time outs.  The problem is, if he hears about it he will still try to discipline and threaten them. 

  

THREATS!  That is the biggest problem!  He is constantly threatening them.  The boys will tell me, "Dad said he will hit me with the belt until my butt bleeds", or "Dad said I will have to quit the basketball team" or some other outrageous threat.  Of course he never goes through with it. THANK GOD! 

  

Our 9 year old came home from school the other day in tears.  He had an "error slip" for something that happened on the playground. (This was the first time he got one this year) and he was so upset!  After i calmed him down I found out he broke down in the principals office.  He said he told him his dad would hit him with the belt over this when he got home.  I was sure d.p.s. would be on my door step that evening.  But they weren't whew, I say that because I DO NOT want to lose my boys.  Also, my h bark is much worse than his bite.  I promised my son he would not get the belt.  I also spoke to my husband about it and he reluctantly agreed to lay off.   

  

As far as my h doing things when I'm not around, I DO NOT believe it.  My boys pretty much tell me everything, every threat etc.  Its been tough, I try to tell them that daddy sometimes says things he doesn't mean when he's mad.  But I also have to reassure them that their daddy loves them. 

  

I am working on these issues along with my own.  I stand up to him more when its about the boys.  Every disagreement is met with h shutting down, not talking or getting mad and slamming things or pouting.  Some days I think he thinks about it after and feels bad.  I also sometimes think he's trying to change (at least on the boys part) ie: not using the belt the other day after I told him of the promise I made to our son. 

  

But thanks again for your reply, I will check out those websites! 

 
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February 24, 2006, 9:23 am PST

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I AGREE TEN TIMES WITH THIS! 

  

He doesn't care about jail... let him ROT in it. 

  

no he did not get arested because i lied i know i was wrong but i had a small baby at hmoe that i could not take care of i told my doctor the truth later but it was too late to do anything about.
 
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