Topic : Abuse

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 04:59:59 pm
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February 7, 2006, 3:51 pm PST

I agree with you!

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I'm sorry I can't agree with you on this one Wade. I don't think that she should respond with anger to him, that will only escalate the problem. However an abuser knows what he is doing at all times. An abuser does not loose control. That's often why the Police think the woman is crazy when they get to the house, because she's hysterical and crying. While he's calm, cool and collected, telling the police that he has no idea what's wrong with his wife.  

You can't talk to an abuser and try to explain YOUR feelings and YOUR point of view for one main reason... 

  

ONLY HE MATTERS ONLY HIS FEELINGS MATTER ONLY HIS POINT OF VIEW MATTER NOTHING ELSE. 

I totally agree. I can sit there and talk to him nicely and polite and it's still not good enough for him. I can apologize and sympathetic and he still goes on and on. I start crying because I feel that I can do no right and he makes fun of my crying and think I'm acting!! He doesn't have any sympathy whatsoever. It's just him and his feelings! There are times when he's not super attentive to me and my needs. I don't make a HUGE deal about it. If I feel that he's attentive 95% of the time. Shouldn't you give someone the benefit of the doubt when he's not the remaining 5%???When we go to his parents for example. He tends to "forget about me" and my needs. Simple little things like asking me if I want something to drink, while he's asking everybody else. I don't save it and cause a seen like he does and gets up in his face about it. I just give him the benefit of the doubt and forget about it. But he blows everything out of proportion. He's so easily offended and it's SO hard to live with. If I say something in "the wrong tone" of voice, all hell breaks lose. He thinks I'm disrespecting him. I was talking to my girlfriend once and her dh called on her. She yelled "WHAT"?? back to him. I thought to myself, if I would've done that to my dh. He would've come up and hit me and asked me "why I yelled back in that tone of voice to him" AND when someone else could hear it to!! That would shame him!! He's so sensitive and afraid of being disrespectful and I have to constantly walk on eggshells around him. It's terrible...... 

 
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February 7, 2006, 4:01 pm PST

Thanks Wade, but it doesn't help!

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Here is a workable strategy that you may want to consider: 

  

Your husband evidently felt victimized (embarassed by what he viewed as defiant behavior from you that caused him to be embarrassed in front of his friends), and given his perception, his reaction seems somewhat reasonable. 

  

However, if I understand you correctly, his perception is incorrect, and perhaps even irrational. 

  

This being the case, then rather than reacting in kind (feeling victimized yourself), try correcting the misperceptions that are driving his behavior. Kindly help him to understand that you love and support him (as evident by your prep of the food) and would not wish to defy or embarrass him in front of his friends or anywhere else. You may also wish to talk openly and dispassionately about why he might think you would do such a thing. 

  

Otherwise, if you react in kind, this will simply escallate the mutual feelings of victimization and chance excallating or maintianing the hurt and hostility. 

  

What do you think?  -Wade-  

I do react gentle and kind. I'm not the screaming type and I never namecall. I just sit there and listen and take it while he goes on and on. Nothing can stop him. He feels that he's right and I just try to defend myself, when all I do is try to explain myself. But his aggressive ways take over and I just start crying because I can't believe I'm with someone who is this immature and mean. Maybe I would be able to see his point if he'd reacted normal and just asked me about the incident. But why does he have to be so mean and get up in my face and threaten me like that?? How can you feel like a real man doing that to a woman?
 

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February 7, 2006, 4:11 pm PST

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I totally agree. I can sit there and talk to him nicely and polite and it's still not good enough for him. I can apologize and sympathetic and he still goes on and on. I start crying because I feel that I can do no right and he makes fun of my crying and think I'm acting!! He doesn't have any sympathy whatsoever. It's just him and his feelings! There are times when he's not super attentive to me and my needs. I don't make a HUGE deal about it. If I feel that he's attentive 95% of the time. Shouldn't you give someone the benefit of the doubt when he's not the remaining 5%???When we go to his parents for example. He tends to "forget about me" and my needs. Simple little things like asking me if I want something to drink, while he's asking everybody else. I don't save it and cause a seen like he does and gets up in his face about it. I just give him the benefit of the doubt and forget about it. But he blows everything out of proportion. He's so easily offended and it's SO hard to live with. If I say something in "the wrong tone" of voice, all hell breaks lose. He thinks I'm disrespecting him. I was talking to my girlfriend once and her dh called on her. She yelled "WHAT"?? back to him. I thought to myself, if I would've done that to my dh. He would've come up and hit me and asked me "why I yelled back in that tone of voice to him" AND when someone else could hear it to!! That would shame him!! He's so sensitive and afraid of being disrespectful and I have to constantly walk on eggshells around him. It's terrible...... 

If you truly believe he is as completely self-centric and beyond being reasoned with as you depict here, as well as volatile and threatening, then why would you ever consider remaining in that kind of hostile situation? To do so would be irrational and unhealthy.   -Wade-
 
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February 7, 2006, 4:11 pm PST

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I totally agree. I can sit there and talk to him nicely and polite and it's still not good enough for him. I can apologize and sympathetic and he still goes on and on. I start crying because I feel that I can do no right and he makes fun of my crying and think I'm acting!! He doesn't have any sympathy whatsoever. It's just him and his feelings! There are times when he's not super attentive to me and my needs. I don't make a HUGE deal about it. If I feel that he's attentive 95% of the time. Shouldn't you give someone the benefit of the doubt when he's not the remaining 5%???When we go to his parents for example. He tends to "forget about me" and my needs. Simple little things like asking me if I want something to drink, while he's asking everybody else. I don't save it and cause a seen like he does and gets up in his face about it. I just give him the benefit of the doubt and forget about it. But he blows everything out of proportion. He's so easily offended and it's SO hard to live with. If I say something in "the wrong tone" of voice, all hell breaks lose. He thinks I'm disrespecting him. I was talking to my girlfriend once and her dh called on her. She yelled "WHAT"?? back to him. I thought to myself, if I would've done that to my dh. He would've come up and hit me and asked me "why I yelled back in that tone of voice to him" AND when someone else could hear it to!! That would shame him!! He's so sensitive and afraid of being disrespectful and I have to constantly walk on eggshells around him. It's terrible...... 

I've walked on eggshells for years. It really is a terrible thing to have to do to have anything that even resembles peace in your life. I know if I ever yelled WHAT? to my husband,, as you say all hell would have broken loose! It's hard to live like this. But, remember, you can get out, there are ways.
 
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February 7, 2006, 4:13 pm PST

Been there and I feel your pain

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Hi everyone. this is my first time here and I am very glad that I have found this message board. I have never said this to anyone or out-loud or even wrote it on paper but I am abused..I guess it falls under emotional or mental.. I don't even know. what I do know is that it is destroying me as a person. I have seen myself change so much, I am not who I used to be. I am not who I want to be. I just am now, Like a shell of a person, with not much feeling b/c I have turned myself off to others and even myself. i have been with this person for 11 years and married for 3 we have 2 children, and a nice home. I have found over the years that we argue about the same things over and over, He always brings up the past, I am the one who is always wrong, and he wont stop till I admit that.. the last argument we had left me feeling empty. very empty, and I don't know who to turn to, I don't want to involve my family , most of my friends are to judgmental, I want to start therapy, and I am scared that he wont go b/c he doesn't think he has a problem... so sry for rambling, but I just have to get this all out. It eating me alive inside. I hate how I feel, I have trouble functioning some days, b/c I'm consumed with disappointment and fear and worry, how do I make this work and get our life's back on track. How do I find me????

I to have been right where you are at.  I have been in a relationship where I was mentally and physically abused for years.  I know how lost you must feel, how alone you must feel and how scary it can be.  I know the feeling of unworthiness, I know the feeling of LOW self esteem.  It is very hard to be in your situation.  Knowing what I know now, I know how difficult it is to see how much you are hurting you and your kids and how especially those children are suffering the most.  I had 2 children in my marriage who watched the abuse daily, and they are smarter than you will ever give them credit for.  I was married to this man for almost 11 years, he finally left me for another woman.  Amazing how God works.  It was the hardest thing I ever lived through and I hope will ever have to but I did.  It's been 7 years now since he left and I am in my second marriage, married to the complete OPOSITE of what my ex was.  I am so blessed.  I still have a lot of problems, I go to a therapist once a week, for awhile there it was twice a week.  I have a lot of issues with abandonment and fear of men basically......in so many ways.  I have written a short story about a few things I went through while being married to my first husband.  I'm not sure if you would like to read it or not but I will give you the information anyways just in case.  The story is on our church website, my dad just happens to be the pastor of that church.  Here is the site  www.beaconmbc.com  From there go to the Women's page and scroll down to "Deb's Story"  There is where you will find my story.  I hope it helps, I know how hard it is when you are in that situation to feel like there is any hope, but there is and the ONLY person that can help you out of this right now is YOU.  You are in my prayers, and I wish you the best.   Let me know if you need anything.  Debbie. 

 
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February 7, 2006, 4:13 pm PST

Thanks for clearing it up, q!

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This: "you'll get up next time or I'll start up a fight and I don't care who's here" is a THREAT, it's an attempt to control you, and it's emotional abuse. 

  

This:  "I'll smack you"....... is a THREAT to physically abuse, and it's verbal abuse and emotional abuse. 

  

Only he really knows why this is such a big deal to him... so I might suggest that you ask him why. 

  

Your hubby is trying to control you and he going about it in a REALLY unhealthy way. 

  

You can not turn your self into a pretzel to make someone else happy... All you can do is the best you can do.  

  

Q  

I think a part of me still lives in denial and has a hard time realizing what's really going on. Because that means that I have to make big changes in ly life and I have such a hard time with change. But my instincts are telling me that this is wrong even if I may be wrong at times. His reaction to things are way off. But it makes it real hard because he doesn't seem to be the "typical abuser" like so many other guys. My dh has a real good education and a well paying job. He's very smart and responsible and takes care of all our bills and is caring most of the time. He doesn't really drink and never goes out to bars. It's just the way he gets mad that I can't stand anymore. And the not knowing how he's going to react to certain things that make me feel unsafe. It's causing me to cry so much that my eyes are all swollen and I don't have an appetite. I feel that I'm wasting my life away fighting.
 
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February 7, 2006, 4:17 pm PST

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If you truly believe he is as completely self-centric and beyond being reasoned with as you depict here, as well as volatile and threatening, then why would you ever consider remaining in that kind of hostile situation? To do so would be irrational and unhealthy.   -Wade-
I was married for 9 1/2 years Wade and lived with him for 2 years before that. I didn't know I could get out for a very long time. For the first 8-9 years I didn't even know I was being abused. Only the last 2 years after it escalated did I realize. Then it took me 2 years to realize I could get out and survive on my own. It was really scary, he constantly told me I couldn't live without him. I actually started to believe it. That's a hard thing to overcome and then get the help you need and get out. 
 

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February 7, 2006, 4:19 pm PST

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I do react gentle and kind. I'm not the screaming type and I never namecall. I just sit there and listen and take it while he goes on and on. Nothing can stop him. He feels that he's right and I just try to defend myself, when all I do is try to explain myself. But his aggressive ways take over and I just start crying because I can't believe I'm with someone who is this immature and mean. Maybe I would be able to see his point if he'd reacted normal and just asked me about the incident. But why does he have to be so mean and get up in my face and threaten me like that?? How can you feel like a real man doing that to a woman?

Perhaps I was unclear, but I wasn't suggesting that you simply listen and take it. Rather, I was suggesting that you rationally explore (using insightful questions) his seemingly irrational perceptions about you. Genuinely attempt to find out why he would think you capable of such behavior that is so out of character of you (given what you have said here). 

  

But, my suggestion was made on the chance that he was somewhat capable of being reasoned with, and other-centric. But, from what you stated earlier, that is not the case. So, it doesn't apply. Sorry! 

  

Your only reasonable choice in that kind of situation is to remove yourself from any potential danger or harm, and protect yourself. 

  

Thanks, -Wade Englund- 

 
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February 7, 2006, 4:24 pm PST

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I think a part of me still lives in denial and has a hard time realizing what's really going on. Because that means that I have to make big changes in ly life and I have such a hard time with change. But my instincts are telling me that this is wrong even if I may be wrong at times. His reaction to things are way off. But it makes it real hard because he doesn't seem to be the "typical abuser" like so many other guys. My dh has a real good education and a well paying job. He's very smart and responsible and takes care of all our bills and is caring most of the time. He doesn't really drink and never goes out to bars. It's just the way he gets mad that I can't stand anymore. And the not knowing how he's going to react to certain things that make me feel unsafe. It's causing me to cry so much that my eyes are all swollen and I don't have an appetite. I feel that I'm wasting my life away fighting.
Some of the things you said in this post are minimizing what really happened. You're minimizing what he does to you by praising his good qualities. By saying "He only..." Don't minimize anything. You are right! I also understand how you feel about change. I'm that way too. But, you know this could be a good change, it was for me. I finally have an opportunity to have my own opinion about things. When I was in the shelter for about 3 weeks I changed the TV channel because I didn't like the show, suddenly I realized, I WAS FREE!!!! I told everyone, I made the decision on my own, I acted on that decision, on my own. And it felt great! I know, how silly, so I changed the channel, but it made me realize that I could make any and every decision on my own now. Such a simple thing for such a huge epiphany.
 
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February 7, 2006, 4:26 pm PST

I survived sexual abuse, you can too

This is my first post on this site.  I survived being sexually abused by my father.  The abuse started around the age of five and continued until I was 17.  Being threatened that I'd be killed and that my mother, sisters and brother would all go into a situation with no money, or all of us being sent to foster care kept me quiet.  My mother, who worked, didn't seem to have a clue what was going on.  I left home the day after I turned 18, married my husband and started a "real" life.  For almost 20 years I told myself that I was okay, but I wasn't.  I started with a therapist, which helped a little but it wasn't until about 2 years later, lots of anti-depressants, which I am still on, that I finally found out about EMDR.  This is a process kind of like bio feedback.  It worked for me and made me a whole person.  I was told by one Dr. that due to the years of abuse, that my seratonin levels would never be like a normal person, so I take medication and probably always will.   

  

If you haven't found the right therapist, keep looking and ask about EMDR. 

 

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