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September 1, 2005, 3:18 pm PDT

Dear lilac

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Hi. This is my first time posting on this board although I'm a regular on various other Dr. Phil boards. I need some serious advice. My husband and I have been married for almost a year, together for almost 3. Our relationship has always been a tumultuous one and there definitely seems to be a cycle at work. Additionally, he believes that he may be bipolar but refuses to seek treatment. So, we're in one of our bad times right now: fighting constantly, little to no physical affection from him, etc. It's not that this is unfamiliar to me; we've been here before. I know it will eventually pass and all will be well . . . until the next time. And that's the problem. I don't know how many more of these bad times I can take. My husband is extremely verbally abusive. He says absolutely awful things to me, things that I can't ever forget. They're all stored away in my mind. He never apologizes. In fact, if pressed, he will say that he meant every word of it so why apologize. We're in the process of buying a house and his 13-year-old daughter recently moved in with us. So things are pretty stressful. Still, I know that doesn't excuse the verbal abuse. What concerns me now most of all is that I'm seeing some red flags for physical abuse down the line. He hates my family and does everything in his power to keep me away from them and he just last night got furious with me for cutting my hair without asking his permission. Has he been physically abusive in the past? Yes, quite some time ago before we were married. He grabbed me by the throat and pushed me into a wall, denting the wall with my head; he then picked me up and physically threw me out the front door. I've foolishly told myself all along that that wasn't really him (he was drunk at the time; we've since quit drinking) and it won't happen ever again. Now I'm starting to wonder. His father was physically abusive to his mother and he still idolizes the man. We've tried counseling and it didn't work because he just stopped going and now refuses to ever go again. So my question is, is there anything else I can do? Any stone I've left unturned? Any certain thing I can say to him to wake him up and make him realize what he's doing? I love him; he's my best friend. I want to know that I've done and said every single thing possible to save this marriage before I even consider leaving it.

Such a pretty color -- lilac.  Wonderful flower too!  Wish we could grow it here! 

  

I have only briefly read your story and I DO have somethings to say (of course I would I'm pretty opinionated!) but seems I've run out of time today. 

  

Will try to post to you tomorrow.   

  

WELCOME!  Q 

 
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September 1, 2005, 3:22 pm PDT

To Hardy Mum...

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Oh, and to be fair, he did get me a lovely card for our anniversary (we agreed to no gifts due to finances) and on Saturday we went to dinner in Cape May which is a lovely Victorian seaside town.  It was a very pleasant, relaxed evening but no physical intimacy, which I found disappointing.  All he did was hold my hand while we were walking.  Like I said, I think it's mainly because he's uncomfortable and depressed. 

As in Chrysanthe--- mum  , get it?  Okay sorry for the pun. 

  

I also have something to say to you -- like lilacmess -- but have run out of time. 

  

Will try and gather some thoughts for you tomorrow.  

  

Till then WELCOME to the board! Q 

 
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September 1, 2005, 4:30 pm PDT

To Q

I am a "Do er" too and I guess this is why it is so frustrating.  They are not barred from me or my family in any way, that is why this is so hard to understand.  My parents and brother would Love to see them, but apparently that is not what they wish.  Have not heard hide nor hair of them even on holidays, including Christmas.  This just seems so strange.  Does it to you?  I could write to them, but I have no idea if they would even receive what I sent.  I have a terrible feeling that they have been lied to or lead to believe that I am just one Horrible Mom.  This weekend is going to be a tough one, the Holidays always are.  I know that they have told alot of lies about me to others and maybe that is why, they are afraid to face the truth, or go on believing what they choose to believe....You know, I don't even know how I would react to seeing them, I would be happy of course, but something inside of me tends to build a wall around my heart.  They have hurt me deeply thru the teenage years, and I realize that teens will do that, but I think they only did what their father showed them;  As in how to treat me.  Thanks for your reply, it is so nice to talk to someone who has been on the Other Side of this too.  God Bless, Inbetween
 
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September 1, 2005, 5:31 pm PDT

does anyone know......

....how are smiles and deholland and raz????  They've been on my mind.  Hope they are well.
 
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September 1, 2005, 5:33 pm PDT

Hey Bedazzled!

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Hi, it's been such a long time since I have been back to this board, BUT I had to come back to hopefully bring some inspiration to someone, just the way the women on this board did for me when I was at an all time low.........THANK YOU XO  

   

A little about me: I was with my husband for 17years and in that time there was violence, emotional abuse, verbal abuse, affairs, it wasn't a picnic to say the least!  

I stayed because I thought one day, this man is going to see how me is hurting me and miraculously change......WRONG!  

   

I came to this board out of sheer desperation, I was at an all time low and the women here helped me more than they will ever know. I printed out replies to my posts and read them, over and over. I shed many tears for what our life had become and some degree of guilt for putting my kids through that hell.  

   

That was 2 years ago, it's been a long, long road and I didn't think I would EVER get through this and remain sane! I felt at times, my heart was breaking into a million pieces, I was willing to go another round, just as long as I was with him. I made the mistake of interpreting his ODD BEHAVIOUR as love!? I thought our love was so INTENSE, I thought we had a really passionate relationship......BUT, I know better now, it was none of those things....it was a SICK love! Oh I am sure in his own weird way he did love me, but it was not a healthy love.  

   

CONGRATS TO YOU!  It's SO great being in the light!  I'm so happy for you!  One more for our "side"!!!  I agree - it's a long road, but it's SO worth it!  I wish you all the best!!!  God Bless - LS  >^.^<
 

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September 1, 2005, 9:15 pm PDT

verbal worse than physical

OK I need some answers... My hubby and I fight all the time an it is always over his daughter from a previous marriage.  I either talked where she couldn't hear me, I was to rough on her,  i should have talked to her, I shouldn't have talked to her, whatever it is.  Its never right.  And then I get mad and then I tell him he should put me first because from previous counseling they have told him that we need to be a united front with parenting well we are not.  Any rules or bouindaries I set he says is to rough on her and  that I would never do that to our own two kids that we had together.  Last night we got in a fight and he of course yelled at me at the top of his lungs like he always does and I went down to my parent house with me children because he won't leave.  (This was my house before I met him but whenever we fight and I tell him to leave because I don't want him to yell at me in front of the children and he does it anyway , I then tell him to leave.  But he won't so who gets to leave me because I don't want to be around him.  My parents tell me that I have to stay with him because I have two children and it was my fault that I got pregnant before I was married that they told me to wait awhile and since I didn't listen to their counsel then I have to pay the price.  They will not support me in anyway if I file for divorce.  I am TIRED of the abuse.  I am TIRED of not being loved.  I am TIRED of his @$#(*&.  I told him today that he would have to take care of his stuff and cook for himself from now on.  I was done taking care of him and his.  He then told me to get a job.  WHATEVER... He always tells me that when he fights with me.  Like he paying the bills is good enough.  Tomorrow he is celebrating his daughters birthday here.  Has she been nice to me talked to me or even done what I told her had to be done before all her friends came over NO.  I don't  think I should same a damn thing.  Personally I am about to the point that I won't even be home when she gets here.  Oh yeh he has to go pick up his other daughter for the weekend because his exwife is going out of town and so he has to drive her everywhere that she needs to go.  The girl doesn't want to ever come over here except when her mom makes her.  That is another story.  I can't stand the girl and don't want to be around her this weekend either.  WHAT SHOULD I DO.?  Tonight he has said a few things to me but I don't give a #($*&.  Instead of coming home and trying to work on our relationship, he came home and took his daughter hunting until dark.   Everytime we don't talk to each other and them the ice will break.  Then its back to the same ol same ol..  I am tired of the same #$*(&.  I dont' think I should put up with it.  What do you all think 

 
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September 1, 2005, 9:27 pm PDT

Hi LS!

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CONGRATS TO YOU!  It's SO great being in the light!  I'm so happy for you!  One more for our "side"!!!  I agree - it's a long road, but it's SO worth it!  I wish you all the best!!!  God Bless - LS  >.<

Hi there LS!  

   

Thanks for your kind words....again!...lol  

I am SO HAPPY to hear that you are going well with the hairdressing :))) It's amazing isn't it, I was once so scared to go out and work after so many years of raising babies, BUT, I'm more than ready now! The time is right , which proves to me that I am letting go of him, you see, I USED to think that he will be back looking after me again! ( financially of course)  

   

The financial side of things was my BIGGEST fear I would have to say, facing that was MONUMENTAL!! But a very "smart" friend once said to me that I have to be prepared to let go of it all and the rest will take care of itself.....she was RIGHT! Funnily enough, his money means NOTHING to me now! He has lost that pull he had over me, once and for all!  

   

You are right, it HAS been a long road, but oh SO worth it ;)  

   

Take Care,  

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September 1, 2005, 9:43 pm PDT

Hi Q!

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It's so good to hear from you!  

  

I am SO PROUD OF YOU for facing your fears.  I KNOW how tough it was!! 

  

My kids squabble too -- it's part of being a kid. 

  

Since you now KNOW about the freedom I speak of was you are out, I hope that you do spend some time figuring out the red flags that should have gone off like a BEACON.  That way you won't EVER be a victim again! 

  

BRAVO! BRAVO!  Q 

Hi Q!  

   

It is also great to hear from you :)))  

   

Thank you so much for your inspiration, LS wasn't kidding when she said you are an angel!   

BRAVO to you, for coming back here day after day to help women, that are at a place that you once were! :)   

   

As for the kids squabbling, that is water off a ducks back here now :) You know it's kind of weird, but it's actually NICE to hear them being ALLOWED to express themselves, their father didn't allow any "misconduct" from them at all! Rather HYPOCRITICAL considering, he was the MASTER at it!!!!  

   

You know it's funny that you say spend some time figuring out the red flags, I think I have always known the red flags all along, I just lost who I WAS for a while there. It's amazing as I would not take any nasty crap from my friends, yet the abuse I took from him was UNBEARABLE at times!  

   

Not anymore, after I posted yesterday, he rang me ( re: fathers day) well, he started using the "F" bomb and that was it!! I hung up quick smart! He tried to call back, I turned the phone off, gone are those days when I played his CHILDISH MIND GAMES! I am through with ANY person that treats me in any other way than I DESERVE to be treated :)))  

   

Take Care everyone, have a great weekend xo  

 
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September 2, 2005, 4:43 am PDT

Katrina, everyone survive OK?

Did eveyone get through Katrina OK??
 
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September 2, 2005, 4:53 am PDT

trying to cope ....starting with today

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I read a little more about your situation with hubby and his denial.

  

 

  

 

I have a couple of more things to add.  Some things that helped me.  Aside from counseling and support, that is.

  

 

  

 

Understanding that I was going to have good days and bad days.  I savored the good and I reached out for help on the bad days.

  

 

  

 

I gave myself some outlets for my emotions.  On my bad days when anger was the major mood, I went and DID something with it.  Usually something physical.  I would go dig in the garden.  I would go to the gym and workout or run.  When I was done, I usually felt much better and got more fit too.  I also gave myself some creative outlets for my emotions.  I began giving thought to the things I used to LOVE to do that I had let go.  Those things rekindled a peaceful centered place within.

  

 

  

 

Understanding that I was still grieving the end of the relationship while I was still living in it – oh so long ago – I made sure I took GOOD care of myself.  I made sure that I ate well.  I made sure that I got plenty of sleep.  I considered and tried temporarily taking meds for depression – ended up not doing that.  I did good things for me.  I leaned on others when I needed the support or a good reality check.

  

 

  

 

I began thinking about how I was going to simplify my life.  Knowing that I was about to lose ½ of everything I had worked so hard for – embracing simplification helped me cope. 

  

 

  

 

I also began to reclaim friendships that I had had to let go of because of my abusive Ex.  And I began to build new ones too.

  

 

  

 

A journal also helped – if you haven’t started one already.  This was especially useful when I had my doubt-filled, weak days.  I’d refer to it and remember, “Oh yeah, THIS is why I’m leaving him.”  It also came in real handy when I went to court.

  

 

  

 

During the times when guilt got the better of me – my sister gave me a tip.  I put a yellow sticky where I would see it all the time.  It had these words on it “AM TOO / ARE NOT”  When I got the guilties because I was being manipulated by the Ex, I’d go read it and repeat AM TOO good enough, ARE NOT guilty.  Sometimes that had to be a mantra!  And the good Dr. P has a good one too.  Put a rubber band on your wrist and “snap yourself back to reality”.  Just don’t snap it too often, okay?

  

 

  

I believe that I read in one of your email to other member or someone else's comment that abuse goes in cycles.  Well lately it's been in the downward cycle as he has been very combative for most little things.  We had a big confrontation last weekend where he heard things that I have never said to him because I didn't want to hurt his feelings.  I think our situation has become more clear to him than before and he not pretending to be nice anymore (phoney).    

     

Nevertheless, I am going on a trip today to Scotland for a week all by myself.  There are many reasons for my trip, but the most important reasons are that I am away from him totally and I prove to myself that I can enjoy travelling by myself and being totalling independent.  I am nervous, but I know that everything will be fine.   

   

I will not be on the boards for the next week, so I like to thank everyone for their help in giving all these sources to educate me.  I will be busy reading when I return,  

       

 
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