Topic : Abuse

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 04:59:59 pm
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October 23, 2006, 5:22 pm PDT

I was so happy to see these posts!

Quote From: Pleasance

Every time you defend yourself verbally...

 

Every time you plead with him...

 

or become hysterical...

 

YOU are being reactive rather than active...

 

YOU are doing exactly what he wants you to do.

 

Your submission and placating gives him clear signals that you are overwhelmed and helpless ---this ultimately leaves him in control.

 

Many women believe that yelling back at their abusers they are actually standing up for themselves...not so.....of course this type of behavior is usually ineffective.

 

If a woman is NOT actively stating what she will or will not accept, she leaves her partner in charge.

 

 

These behaviors will NOT work for you.

 

Apologizing

 

Pleading

 

Crying

 

Arguing

 

Defending yourself verbally

 

Trying to get him to see it your way

 

Yelling

 

Threatening

 

 

And know that somebody upstairs was listening. 

 

Welcome back dearheart Pleasance.  Welcome back.  And, by the way, excellent work as always!

 

peace

 

Lyn

 
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October 23, 2006, 5:33 pm PDT

The other thing,

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I am so glad to see you....I have really missed you!!

 

I think this example is GREAT......and if you add that  once in a blue moon, you get it right....you mail is picked up or delivered just as it is supposed to....but by then you can not for the life of you REMEMBER what you did to make it happen...because you have been told to do so many different things on so many occations.....and  you have tried them all..... when all of a sudden something actually works....that will keep you trying even harder to make it happen again......!!

 

Great example.....and great to see you back!

E

and I remember this from childhood, is to be told, "You KNOW what you did".  The anger and rage are coming down on your head and, for the life of you, you can't recall doing anything wrong.  You did exactly what you had been told to do.

 

Spent hours going over conversations and behavior in my head, trying to figure out why I, or my mother, was his target this time.  Trying to figure it out so I could apologize.  Trying to make it stop.  Still sends chills down my spine just thinking about it. 

 

Not all monsters live in the dark.

 

 

 

 
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October 23, 2006, 11:32 pm PDT

once again way toooooo long

HELLO  my friends

once again it has been way way way too long

my computer crashed and it took some doing to

get it up and running again and as it was all free

except the time it took to get it done i had to at least

show some restraint and patience as to the person who fixed it

only mainly my oldest son  anyway i will have to learn this darn thing all

over again but i will be in I am happy to be back

 

(once known as scaredicat....)  Charmed

 
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October 24, 2006, 4:35 am PDT

Hi LS

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So nice to be back!  I was gone for a short time & all of a sudden I COULDN'T post any longer for a while! 

 

Hey Sunshine!  I bet I know who you are!!  I assume we will all have to sign up again.  I have chosen a new name so close to my old user name that I'm sure everyone will know who I am. 

 

I'm doing wonderful!  Hope you are too!  I've been thinking a lot about you & everyone else here!  Hope we can find Q again!!!  She is the official abuse board angel!!!  I think everyone would agree with me on that one!!! 

 

I have a job at the Hair Cuttery nearby & I'm doing hair in my new, just finished mini-salon too!!!  It feels SO good to have money coming in once again & not feel like I'm drowning financially!  Waiting to take my last State Board Test on August 9 & then all the plans I laid out for myself last year will be completed!!!  

 

Hard to believe that my life has changed so much since that day I declared myself a survivor of abuse!  I think I knew it all along but was in denial.  I didn't want to admit it - didn't want to bring it out in the open - because I knew what I would have to do if I did!!!  Now I'm glad I decided to go through with everything - have a much more peaceful & free life now!  It took a year & a half of having my life upside down to finally be where I am!  It wasn't easy but it was worth it!  We only live once!!!  God Bless - LS  >.< 

Indeed you have come a very long way  I have been gone a time too

(computer on the fritz) I am happy for your progress keep on rockin

 

                                                                          Charmed  ( formerly scaredicat and Ladybug )

 

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October 24, 2006, 5:41 am PDT

goodness gracious ladybug

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HELLO  my friends

once again it has been way way way too long

my computer crashed and it took some doing to

get it up and running again and as it was all free

except the time it took to get it done i had to at least

show some restraint and patience as to the person who fixed it

only mainly my oldest son  anyway i will have to learn this darn thing all

over again but i will be in I am happy to be back

 

(once known as scaredicat....)  Charmed

Goodness gracious Ladybug,

 

Its been a while indeed!

 

Surely you've been missed....I went by another user name all those years ago...."C" .....if I were to type it here you would recall right away.

 

Anyway, nice to hear from you.....I remember full-well your "little guy" and your love for playing pool.

 

Also your attempt and conquering your fear of driving that "old" car.............you triumphed.  Your new job.........the way your customers and co-workers loved you there.  You made so many changes in such a short time.......I remember it all.

 

Nice to hear from you.

 

Stay in touch.

 

How goes it now?

 

Take care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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October 24, 2006, 6:07 am PDT

Not all a cookie cutter pattern

As a reminder ------ THIS IS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH

 

 

Domestic Violence may follow a cycle of build-up and lashing-out however there are other instances too.....as you all well know.

 

 

Instead, seemingly inane motions or changes in tone of voice can trigger a domestic abuse outburst and many of those triggers are unique to each relationship.

 

Have you noticed how all this plays out?

 

Is there subtle communication that happens back and forth?

 

Physical abuse is horrid....thats a given.  Often times the mental control that comes with it is even worse.   Its not uncommon for various controls such as the car, the gasoline amounts in the tank, telephone calls and any social interactions to be monitored by the abuser.

 

I remember physical injuries purposefully inflicted in inconspicuous bodily locations.  It followed its own course with a beginning and an end.

 

The control and emotional abuse is constant.

 

Sarcasm plays a heavy role.   Its demeaning.......when does demeaning you all the time affect your self image?

 

Just some things.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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October 24, 2006, 6:15 am PDT

giving credit where credit is due

Quote From: Pleasance

In insidious ways, the woman is thus brainwashed.

 

Her independence is eroded.  Her perception  of reality is distorted.  Her self-confidence is undermined.  She learns how to be helpless.  She learns to be a victim.

 

Learned helplessness is part of the Battered Woman Syndrome and it is a BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION TACTIC.

 

To explain it simply...remember that most of us expect certain responses when we do certain things. When the expected responses do not come, we consciously or unconsciously alter our behavior in order to elicit the desired response.

 

FOR EXAMPLE, we expect that if we go to the mailbox, it will contain mail addressed to us or to our family.  We also know that the letter carrier will pick up and deliver our mail at a certain time of day.

 

NOW suppose you go to the mailbox to pick up your mail at the appropriate time and discover that your outgoing mail has not been picked up but your mailbox has been filled with mail addressed to other people.    You call the post office to inquire about the problem and are told that the mail will only be picked up if a large red flag is attached to the mailbox. 

 

You go to the hardware store and buy a large red flag so that you may comply with the instructions, but your mail is still not being picked up and other peoples mail continues to appear in your mailbox.

 

You call the post  office and you are told that your envelopes must be of a certain size.  You rush to the nearest stationery store to buy the new envelopes....but your mail is still not picked up.  Now you call the post office and are told the problem has been solved.  BUT, you can look through your window to see a blizzard of papers, parcels, magazines and postcards spreading across your lawn and into the street.

 

You complain that the problem has not been solved and you are told to use envelopes of a certain color as well as size.  You rush to the stationery store to purchase the new envelopes, but the situation continues to become worse.

 

You don't receive any of the birthday cards or bills addressed to you, but more and more mail for  more and more other people is stuffed into your box.   YOU attempt to pick up all the mail and deliver it to the correct recipients, but the more you deliver the more mail arrives until the task becomes overwhelming.   YOU HAVE NO CONTROL over the situation.    YOU HAVE NO CHOICES.  You give up.

 

NOW IMAGINE THIS PROBLEM APPLIED TO DOMESTIC LIFE.   No matter what the battered, or abused woman does, she cannot control her life.

 

Her behavior does NOT bring a normal, predictable response.   Second-guessing the response consumes every waking hour and every minute of her time until the woman finally gives up.

 

Since she is helpless to cause her partner to respond in a normal way,  she believes she is also helpless to conduct her life.

 

 

 

Questions or comments? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I apologize,

 

I forgot to list the source for this terrific example.

 

Just so you'll know.

 

 

 

The Battered Woman's Survival Guide ---breaking the cycle

 

 

A Resource Manual for Victims, Relatives, Friends and Professionals.

 

Jan Berliner Statman

 
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October 24, 2006, 6:29 am PDT

Abuse

Quote From: eventyr

I am so glad to see you....I have really missed you!!

 

I think this example is GREAT......and if you add that  once in a blue moon, you get it right....you mail is picked up or delivered just as it is supposed to....but by then you can not for the life of you REMEMBER what you did to make it happen...because you have been told to do so many different things on so many occations.....and  you have tried them all..... when all of a sudden something actually works....that will keep you trying even harder to make it happen again......!!

 

Great example.....and great to see you back!

E

 

Yes, this comparison is great, and yes, the part about the mail occassionally being delivered the way it is supposed to be is necessary to make the story complete.

 

I spend much of my time being very confused about what is going on in my life.  My counselor said that confusion is the number one sign of emotinal abuse.  So confusing that at times I can't even describe what is going on or how I feel.

 

But I feel so grounded sitting here reading all of your posts.  I appreciate the stories and experiences  and advice of each and every one of you-it really helps me to see my own life more clearly, as well as give me hope for the future.  Slowly, one step at a time I am growing and improving.  And now I know that doing it slowly, the only way I can seem to do it, is ok too, thanks to all of you. 

 

May God Bless each and every one of you.

 

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October 24, 2006, 6:42 am PDT

To the abusers

To the abusers

 

You may have been loved -- in fact you certainly were --- but your actions put all that in jeopardy and made it impossible for your partner to stay.

 

You may not be able to get back what you had but you may be able to start over if you are TOTALLY HONEST about what went wrong.

 

When we live with blinders on  we miss alot.

 

Remember that  BAD RELATIONSHIPS DON'T CAUSE ABUSE.      ABUSE CAUSES BAD RELATIONSHIPS, and no relationship will ever be what you want it to be as long as abuse is present.

 

 

Pamela Jayne, M.A.

 

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October 24, 2006, 7:00 am PDT

is there a correlation ?

Is there a correlation?

 

Court ordered to attend a group for batterers?

 

A group....is it anger management?

 

Shouldn't it be called an ENTITLEMENT MANAGEMENT group?

 

Whats up with men defining someone else's behavior?        Where do they get off with this one?

 

Hmmm

 

 

Look around us, in our society.....how is it we are solving problems......those important things that have and leave an impact?

 

 

Where is the patience....doesn't it take some time to sit , talk,  negotiate.........doesn't it require communication and the time to work things out?

 

What is this sense of ENTITLEMENT  that I see?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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