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December 7, 2007, 12:00 pm PST

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December 7, 2007, 3:25 pm PST

DOMESTIC ABUSE

Dr. Phil, I watched todays show (Friday Dec 7th) about domestic abuse...........I live in fear of my ex-husband who caused me to fall down a flight of stairs breaking both arms and dislocating my shoulder. I am permanently disabled because of this fall. After the fall I continued to live with him for 2 more months because I was still living in denial and didn't want a divorce at my age (65). And he continued to abuse me even tho my arms were in casts and shoulder was so damaged and not yet repaired. While in the hospital 2 months later to repair the shoulder, my ex-husband pulled out my hair and was caught by 2 nurses. He tried to say that I was losing it because I was screaming due to him pulling out my hair. He said he didn't know what was wrong with me. But they saw him. He was ordered out of the hospital and a social worker came to talk with me.
I did not go home with him, I did file for an Order of Protection, and I did file for divorce which is now final. But I still live in fear of him. I fear that I will become tomorrow's headlines. He lives only a mile from me. I constantly watch over my shoulder...........and look out for his vehicle.

He is 70 years old...........you'd think at his age he'd worry about having to go to prison. But nothing seems to phase him. He's 300 pounds and 6'3" tall..............I'm 140 pounds and 5'2" tall..........he's a total controller. I'll just keep praying every day that my angel will watch out for me.

 
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December 7, 2007, 3:39 pm PST

About today show

 

 Lets talk about the show anyone watched it ???? I did and let me tell you I'am sooooooo glad that I got out. Watching it made chills run down my back.... My first husband broke my nose and told me the next time he would kill me. I got out fast and thanks to my family. I think  if you are tired of being ABUSE YOU NEED TO GET OUT. Make plans and make sure you have money and somewhere to go. You do need to be safe.......... I hope everyone that post will be safe and keep posting here and let us help you and talk to us. I know it is hard to leave and all believe me I been there like everyone else on this board, but you got to put yourself first and your kids. ed. yourself about abuse get informment on it. PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW BAD IT CAN BE.  I'm so thankful that I find this board and post on here and talked about what was going on with me cause I would never and I mean never would have left or told anyone what was going I would probably still be with my hubby and thinking everything was fine, and going on trying to fix what he said was my fault....I been married to him for 21 years and it was hard to leave. But I knew I had to leave cause I was tired of living like I was and being treated like I was, so I left. Oh there are times I wish I didn't leave but than I remember how it was and I'am glad I did......  I hope Amanda and Chris all the luck in the world, and hope he gets the help he needs..............  

 
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December 7, 2007, 3:46 pm PST

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Dr. Phil, I watched todays show (Friday Dec 7th) about domestic abuse...........I live in fear of my ex-husband who caused me to fall down a flight of stairs breaking both arms and dislocating my shoulder. I am permanently disabled because of this fall. After the fall I continued to live with him for 2 more months because I was still living in denial and didn't want a divorce at my age (65). And he continued to abuse me even tho my arms were in casts and shoulder was so damaged and not yet repaired. While in the hospital 2 months later to repair the shoulder, my ex-husband pulled out my hair and was caught by 2 nurses. He tried to say that I was losing it because I was screaming due to him pulling out my hair. He said he didn't know what was wrong with me. But they saw him. He was ordered out of the hospital and a social worker came to talk with me.
I did not go home with him, I did file for an Order of Protection, and I did file for divorce which is now final. But I still live in fear of him. I fear that I will become tomorrow's headlines. He lives only a mile from me. I constantly watch over my shoulder...........and look out for his vehicle.

He is 70 years old...........you'd think at his age he'd worry about having to go to prison. But nothing seems to phase him. He's 300 pounds and 6'3" tall..............I'm 140 pounds and 5'2" tall..........he's a total controller. I'll just keep praying every day that my angel will watch out for me.

 

  I'AM GLAD YOU GOT OUT !!!!  THEY THINK IT IS US THAT IS DOING WRONG..... YES HE  IS VERY CONTROLLING, JUST LIKE MY EX... I'M PRAYING THAT YOUR ANGEL IS WATCHING OVER YOU AS WELL. KEEP POSTING OK.

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December 7, 2007, 4:08 pm PST

I'm reading some of the posts here

And I am thinking why are these women taking this abuse?  Dr. Phil what about government services like food stamps, affordable housing?  Go to your state's site (example:  idaho.gov).  See what they have to offer.

 

Some have an excuse they have no where to go.  I agree with Dr. Phil when he reminds us we are better off living under a bridge in a box.  Its better than 6 feet under IN A BOX.  Your children don't deserve seeing the abuse.  They get the notion its okay to treat mom dad animals or anything/one that way.

 

The kids suffer.  Grades.  Bullying.  Folks being randomly shot at in Malls.  Innocent victims.  Look at yourself in a mirror.  Ask yourself do I deserve this?  Make a plan.  Don't let "I have no where to go" be what holds you back from getting out. 

 

Listen, I'm a secretary dont make much money but I'm better off today than I was.  My ex is an alchoholic.  A sleeping drunk.  I had to save myself.  Dad ran out of peppermint lifesavers... so I bought my own.  My couch has slip covers.  My TV has a hanger for an antenna.  My nails aren't polished. My clothes are from friends.  LOL I use coupons for book marks... If you're typing on these boards, you have a marketable skill... so,how many words do you type a minute?

 

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December 7, 2007, 8:07 pm PST

just too scarey

domestic violence has several sub categories according to the superior court of californias web site.

The sub categories are...

physical

Sexual

emotional

verbal

spiritual

financial

destructive

homophobic

immigration

 

Out of all of these my spouse is guilty of 6.

But in order to prosecute him he has to hit me.

This did not happen.

In fact he would never hit me because he knew that it was game over for him.

But the threats are very real.

And the crimes are very real.

I have a restraining order against him because of this but it doesnt stop him from coming to my town and it doesnt stop him from circling the school where his son is and get his attention and wave to him.

he has done so much wrong and I and my kids are victims.

We have been for 7+ years.

Nobody is doing anything about it.

I want to bring to attention that you dont necessarily have to be beaten physically to be a victim of domestic violence...nor does that make you any less of a candidate of being murdered.

If anything it makes you more of a candiadate because emotional abuse is so looked over, that the perpetrator has more freedom to do so.

The police cannot stop him from coming here even though I moved here to get away from him.

They cant do anything about him driving around the school.

You see, even though I requested it, the restraining order only protects me...and truly it is nothing more then a piece of paper.

There was a day that my spouse came to town and he drove right by where I was crossing the kids to go to school.

I grabbed the kids and made them stand behind the crossing guards truck for safety reasons and I didnt want them upset...they have been through so much.

But the look that he gave me driving by was the same look of anger that he has had so many times before.

I was so scared and today I still believe that because that crossing guard was there and had letters on her vest that spelled out police was the only reason why I am still here today.

He has threatened a drive by shooting for a long time.

And whats scarey is that he has always maintained outside the home a person against domestic violence...he wears two faces....and has said that he does.

what fianlly led to us seperating was his drug problem.

he had a set pattern of ups and downs.

For two weeks he was up and so antzy...sometimes nice to be around and others he was irritable.

Then it was the enevitabl crash...lying in the living room and sleeping all day long.

Sweating profusely, having the air set to 70 and we all froze but him, the twitching in his sleep, his muttering in his sleep.

Nobody wanted him awake.

We all walked on pins and needles because we knew that when he woke up he was vial...his words and sometimes his actions were very disturbing.

on May 7th of this year he was doing just that...well my 6 yr old wanted his bigger brother to play with him(as always) and I was trying to figure out what to do with this situation.

The older one even though it would have been a good idwea and cave and play with his smaller brother instead protested.

I was a nervous wreck trying to get the smaller ones attention and play with him myself but he wasnt having it...so he yelled because he knew that this would wake his father and he would get his way because it was disturbing his sleep.

It happened and he woke up and told my older son that if he didnt play with his brother that he would smah his face into the cement and that he would get out of prison before he got out of the hospital.

I was floored!

He went back to sleep after that and I took the kids into the back room and thats where we stayed...our safe haven.

But the back room in the apartment always hid why my spouse was screwed up...like I would always find small empty baggies with white residue and cut straws and burnt foil.

That night as we sat in the back room I had decided that this time I was looking for whatever it was that he was on and was calling the police to have him removed once and for all.

We just could not go on licing this way.

I first open the cabinent where he kept his clothes because he would always hide things like that there till he could dispose of them...andbehind a shelf I found a sandwhich bag that had white residue clear to the top.

I immediately went into shock because I knew what this meant.

I looked through all of his clothes and found nothing more but then my daughter asked my why I never looked on top of the cabinent...I told her that it was 7 foot high and didnt think to look there for one because of that and another there was a straw hat up there that didnt look like it had been moved.

But she pleaded me to look so I got a chair and moved the hat not expecting to see anything there but there was a syringe and the cap to it was sitting in a baby jar lid and off to the left of that was a straw.

I panicked...my heart was racing and there was a time lapse that I dont even remember what I said or did but my oldest daughter was on the phone with the police.

The police (who have been sent out any times here) talked to me as my spouse laid asleep on the futon in the living room.

I told them what I found and where I found it and they said well we have had cases where it was placed there. They thought that I put it there.

I was shocked that they would think that I did this.

But then again, his mother works for the police department and he used that in his defense everytime.

Anyways the police woke him up and he acted like he had no idea why they were there.

They asked him if he had drugs on him (they didnt search him) and he patted his pockets and said no.

And of course he denied everything.

I asked the police if they were going to make him leave and they said that they couldnt...because he didnt have anything on him.

I told them what he said to my son and they didnt even write it in the police report.

So I asked that they stay long enough to give me and the kids a chance to pack uo a few things and go to the shelter and thats when he said that he would leave.

So the poilice didnt take me.

That night I didnt sleep at all because I was so afraid.

The next day he was calling and wanted to talk...like hes done before but I had dealt with it for so long that I wasnt letting him back.

I kept hanging up and asked him to stop calling.

So he started coming by...banging on the door...wanting in...which I could not understand as he had the keys...and I would call the police.

Everytime they came out he used that scape goat...his mother.

He used his innocense face and made it seem like it was me.

He used the excuse that he needed something from the house.

This went on for days.

So I had finally took all of his belongings and moved them to the patio and he was informed that they were there and to retrieve them when I wasnt around.

He left a lot.

He did this so he could come back.

Then hge had his family calling trying to pry information from me.

It was horrible.

I finally moved as far away as I could get without leaving the county as he stated that I would run with the kids.

So I moved an hour and a half away to a small town.

I have been here ever since but hes now coming here and I truly believe that he has tampered with my car as it dfoesnt run anymore.

He always told me that if I left him that he would make sure that I failed...

I could write all day long about his abuse on me and the kids but it doesnt help because I was never battered.

hes done almost everything but batter me.

I live in fear.

I cant get employed becauxe I have no job because what I do requires transportation.

I am afraid that he will try and take my son.

His Nephew molested my oldest son but he will not talk out of fear.

My oldest daughter whos mentally ill moved bakc in with his family because she sees abuse as structure.

He has hit the kids.

Thrown things at the kids barely missing my daughters head with a skateboard he threw.

Hes got drug problems and he shaved his head prior to leaving because he knows that they can check his hair for it.

He has ruined two cars of mine and I believe the one I own now...I havent washed it because I want it checked for his prints or prints of someone he knows.

Hes affiliated with a gang and has driven drugs across the border for them shoved up his backside.

He is bipolar and has a host of other mental problems.

Hes known not to take his meds.

Hes addicted to pain pills.

Has a personality of Jeckle and Hyde.

I left.

I took the kids and left.

But we are not safe.

He won visitation and I cant even get his son there to see him because of my ar not running.

His mother calls here and states that she knows I cant get to the visitation center.

The judge hearing the case is bias and told him to seek legal counsel.

What am I to do?

I am living in fear.

I cant afford an attorney.

I cant get anywhere to get help as everything is in the bigger town.

And he comes through here and this scares me

What about people like me?

 

All I know is that the day that he came to town and gave me that look as he drove by, I was forever grateful for that crossing guard there.

I bought her coffee and a honey bun and thanked her for being there.

Or I sincerely believe that I would have been dead.

 

 
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December 7, 2007, 8:23 pm PST

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 I watched your show today on killer among us, I also lived with a man that beat me all of the time and I lived in fear all of the time I always thought that he would kill me and the kids . He told me if I ever left him he would kill me, so I stayed for twenty years then one morning I woke up and decided it was time to get out cause my kids deserved better well the sad news about this is that my husband shot himself two days after I left him, I wished that he could had got help but he had to much pride to go get get help and once I left he had no more control of me and the kids and he did not know what to do so he killed himself now I have to live with that every day like the abuse was not enough now i have to deal with the grief of his death it has been eight years now and I just make it day to day trying to figure out what I could had done different so my kids were still have their father so please if you are being abused get out. No one ever deserves to be beat.
 
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December 8, 2007, 12:57 pm PST

Been there and understand

I too have been a victim of domestic abuse. I do not know how this particular story will play out (I am still the product of our judicious system that says "innocent until PROVEN guilty...however, there are definately concerns).

 

The day I found myself (literally) beating my head against the wall, over the sadistic things that my ex continually sad to me, is the day that I STOPPED and said to myself, "WHAT are you doing"? That is the day that I decided that I had to get out. He was not physically abusive (until he thought that I was pregnant and he punched me in the stomach during an argument...of which there were many)...but he was mentally abusive; he told me practically every day that there was something wrong with me.

 

I am a success story really. I left. The day I was loading up what I could get into my car, he was steady behind me telling me, "What are you doing? You do not have to do this". I turned around and told him, "No, Richard, I DO have to do this". I said it very calmly and continued to pack the car.

 

I am writing this in hopes that another "girl", woman, may read it and realize that she too can be a survivor of domestic abuse.

 
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December 8, 2007, 1:57 pm PST

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I too have been a victim of domestic abuse. I do not know how this particular story will play out (I am still the product of our judicious system that says "innocent until PROVEN guilty...however, there are definately concerns).

 

The day I found myself (literally) beating my head against the wall, over the sadistic things that my ex continually sad to me, is the day that I STOPPED and said to myself, "WHAT are you doing"? That is the day that I decided that I had to get out. He was not physically abusive (until he thought that I was pregnant and he punched me in the stomach during an argument...of which there were many)...but he was mentally abusive; he told me practically every day that there was something wrong with me.

 

I am a success story really. I left. The day I was loading up what I could get into my car, he was steady behind me telling me, "What are you doing? You do not have to do this". I turned around and told him, "No, Richard, I DO have to do this". I said it very calmly and continued to pack the car.

 

I am writing this in hopes that another "girl", woman, may read it and realize that she too can be a survivor of domestic abuse.

 

  I'm glad you did. I been where you were and every women here, I have found the pace that I didn't have when I was living with my hubby,I go to church and they say to me or use to say to me you aren't crying! And I would say to them no why do you want me to cry!!! It was a relife to be out.... I hope like you that girls and women that find themself where we were read our post.....

 
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December 8, 2007, 5:49 pm PST

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 I watched your show today on killer among us, I also lived with a man that beat me all of the time and I lived in fear all of the time I always thought that he would kill me and the kids . He told me if I ever left him he would kill me, so I stayed for twenty years then one morning I woke up and decided it was time to get out cause my kids deserved better well the sad news about this is that my husband shot himself two days after I left him, I wished that he could had got help but he had to much pride to go get get help and once I left he had no more control of me and the kids and he did not know what to do so he killed himself now I have to live with that every day like the abuse was not enough now i have to deal with the grief of his death it has been eight years now and I just make it day to day trying to figure out what I could had done different so my kids were still have their father so please if you are being abused get out. No one ever deserves to be beat.
People who are so angry that they feel the need to physically hurt others have serious emotional problems. Your late husband had issues before he met you, and it was those issues that led to him beating you and killing himself. He didn't kill himself because of you, he killed himself because of him.

Thank God he didn't kill you and your children. Those kids are better off without a father than they would have been growing up with violence (or possibly getting beaten themselves) their whole lives. It is sad that they don't have a father, but there was nothing you could have done differently. He threatened the lives of you and your kids, the threat was serious, and you did what you had to do. Be strong for your kids and let the guilt go. You deserve to be happy after going through so much, and your kids deserve to see their Mom happy. It makes them happy, too.

Hug! :)
 
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