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October 18, 2005, 9:21 am PDT

Oh honeybunny!!

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OK, we went to family counselling the other night and the Doc asked all 4 of us how our family was doing.  everyone sat there not saying a word.  Doc said the silence was speaking volumnes!  He asked again how things were so I said that I would tell him!  I said "well, Our daughter asked me why her father loves her bother more than he loves her b/c he is favoring our son".  I gave examples.  The Doc asked our daughter if that was true.  She shook her head yes and started to cry.  I was sitting on the sofa in between our two children so I reached over and grabbed her hand to hold.  Our son then put his head on my shoulder and he put my arm around him.  The doc said to our daughter that she needs to learn to go to the person she is having a problem with b/c it will help to solve problems better than going to a third party.  Good point but I stepped in and said "that's not fair, she is 10 yrs old and afraid to talk to her father.  I am married to him and am also afraid to talk to him so I know how she feels."  Doc asked our son if he found it difficult to talk to his father and he said "yes".  Doc asked both kids if they find it difficult to talk to their mom(me!) and they both said "no".  Legal h just sat in the chair across the room like a statute-hand in his lap, sitting erect & emotionless and didn't say a word!  Doc later asked me when I was by myslef if legal h is as noncommunicative and emotionless a thome as he is in session.  I sid "YES"! And he said that something needs to be done b/c he is concerned how the emotional environemnt is unhealthy for the kids!  he wants to file a report w/the law guardian and recommend that legal h and I seperate to eleviate the cold war atmosphere the children are being exposed to!! 

I have tears in my eyes. 

  

I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!  You have done SO GOOD!!!  It's tough to bring stuff like this out. 

  

The environment is SO unhealthy and I KNEW THIS WOULD COME OUT!!!  I am jumping up and down for joy at your courage, cocoa!!!   

  

I can not tell you -- there are no words to express -- how important what happened in that counseling session was. 

  

I think you guys have turned a corner in more than one way. 

  

This is WONDERFUL news!  I know it is NO picnic living it every day and I know how much pain your children are in and you are by watching them fall apart in front of you.  The word pain is an understatement -- I know because I've lived it too. 

  

The sooner this is over the sooner healing can begin.   

  

Things WILL GET BETTER.  You DID GOOD!!! 

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 9:28 am PDT

You are SO welcome!

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I am trying really hard to stand up for myself and my children!  I have to admit it is uncomfortable and unnatural for me but I am trying.  Thanks for your support

If you don't do this for THEM, no one will.  Hubby is too wrapped up in HIMSELF to teach them how to stand up for yourself.   

  

Did you know that when you do this kind of thing, it teaches your children that they are WORTH standing up for?   

  

It sends MANY messages about how healthy relationships work.  That they matter and that YOU matter.  It shows them how to do it.   

  

It IS uncomfortable -- you are USED to being the door mat -- the lowly being.  But I am here to tell you that you ARE NOT!!  You never were, not ever.  You just listened to someone else and believed it.  It was a LIE. 

  

You have as much right to your opinion and your thoughts and your feelings as ANYONE else.  And the more you stand up for you, the easier it gets.  You teach your kids that they have these rights too. 

  

Practice makes perfect.   

  

And you ARE PERFECT -- JUST as you are!!!  (From Miguel Ruiz's the Four Agreements -- a good read while you are in the mood for reading.) 

  

BRAVO!!!  Be gentle with your self. 

 

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October 18, 2005, 9:37 am PDT

not sure

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Please email me and let me know who you were if you are comfortable doing that.  If not, no biggie -- maybe I'll figure it out myself eventually.  Or we can just start afresh -- 

  

I have about three wonderful people in mind  and have missed them ALL DEARLY! 

  

Cybil and LJforLJ checks in from time to time -- they both doing very well.  LJ finalized her divorce some time ago and now has a new hair salon in her home.  Cybil reaquainted herself with her abuser but has also kept her distance -- good for her!  I haven't heard from Gemini or Momisme in forever.  I hope they are doing well and finding the happiness they deserve! 

  

WELCOME BACK -- with a great big hug!  Q 

Q, 

  

  

I'm not sure about emailing just yet....Cybilone used to suggest that to me and I never did then either. 

  

  

You  once put up on the boards a picture of a beautiful sunset.........for one of my favorite places. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

Please don't blurt out my name. 

  

  

  

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 9:50 am PDT

LEMONDROP!!!!!!

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Q, 

  

  

I'm not sure about emailing just yet....Cybilone used to suggest that to me and I never did then either. 

  

  

You  once put up on the boards a picture of a beautiful sunset.........for one of my favorite places. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

Please don't blurt out my name. 

  

  

  

  

Is it REALLY YOU!?!?! 

  

I can't believe it! 

  

We have wondered about you for AGES! 

  

Hoping you were well.  Glad to know that you ARE! 

  

Whenever I see pictures like that one -- I still think of you. 

  

We still carry on the Porch Light tradition too -- in honor of you! 

 
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October 18, 2005, 10:22 am PDT

More resources for inabubble

Have a couple of more resources for inabubble: 

  

Salvation Army has info re shelter/housing, food, etc 

  

also 


Community Services 

503 South Martin Luther King, Junior Ave. 

Clearwater, FL 33756 

(727) 584-3528 

It's about a half hour away from St. Pete's. Their website is:  

http://www.rcshelps.com/  

It's a very comprehensive shelter... offers counseling for women and their children, legal help, temporary shelter (up to 2 months), they have a food bank, job assistance, help with clothing needs thru their thrift shop, and have a transitional living program where a woman and her children are able to live for up to 2 years.  

  

  

 

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October 18, 2005, 10:26 am PDT

Touched my heart

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Is it REALLY YOU!?!?! 

  

I can't believe it! 

  

We have wondered about you for AGES! 

  

Hoping you were well.  Glad to know that you ARE! 

  

Whenever I see pictures like that one -- I still think of you. 

  

We still carry on the Porch Light tradition too -- in honor of you! 

I have thought of you all so many many times. 

  

  

Hoping and praying that you all were here for each other. 

  

  

Feeling badly that I was not. 

  

  

You have touched my heart and have brought me to tears..........the Porch Light  tradition......I am so touched and elated that it continues.      I myself have turned on the light so very many times in my absence........hoping......hoping that you all could feel me there for you and with you all.    Even though I was not able to even read the boards.  

  

  

Later on........... 

  

  

The national news kept me from coming back over and over again............ when I feel comfortable emailing you, Q..........maybe some day I can explain. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 10:52 am PDT

I found this message in show "Stand up for yourself

I found this so powerful that I think everyone would benefit from reading it.  I hope the person who wrote doesn't mind me sharing this on this message board.... 

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hopeful October 7, 2005, 3:33 pm PDT Dear Kathy and Elaine

Dear Kathy and Elaine,

   

 

 

  

  

I watched yesterday’s show twice. Watching made me remember and I felt once more the fear bubbling up inside of me. The taste of bile settled in my throat. Tears spilled over my cheeks and I wept for what you are going through.  I  wept for what I endured. The scars are still red and raw and I have had my freedom for over 5 years.   

  

  

   

I knew I had made the biggest mistake of my life the day I married him. I tried my very best to be a good wife and I did love him (although I never was IN LOVE with him). We lived on a farm and he preferred that I not work. I loved living on the farm and did not mind doing my part to help out. I mixed concrete with my bare hands; I picked potatoes and learned to drive all of the farm equipment. I canned and froze most of our food. I made most of my clothes, curtains, etc.  I got up at 5:00 in the morning, made breakfast, did the laundry and hung it out to dry, vacuumed the house, and planned the noon and evening meals. Then I would go to the field. I would return around 7:00 in the evening.  I did it all and I tried to do it perfectly.  

  

  

   

In return for doing all I could to be the best wife I endured 26 years of mental, emotional, verbal and sexual abuse. Nothing I did was ever good enough. I lived under a microscope 24/7. He was so good at manipulation that within a year’s time he had cut me off from my entire family. I spent almost 24 hours a day with this man. I was scared to death of him and I was ashamed that I had allowed myself to get into this type of relationship. He could be very loving when he chose to be but he always found a way to abuse me in order to negate the nice thing he had done. (one more way of controlling). He kept me off balance emotionally. When the abuse began I learned to do something the psychologist termed "splitting". I went to a secret place in my head that was beautiful and safe.  

  

  

  

  

He told me I was fat and ugly and that no one else would want me. He told me I was ignorant and that nothing I said held any significance. He told me he would make me very sorry if I didn’t comply with all of his wishes. He held me down and with words that oozed venom he told me “that I was his, that he owned me, and that I would never leave him”. He brainwashed me until I finally bought into the things he said and they became a self-fulfilling prophecy.   

   

During the marriage I discovered the man I had married was a sex addict. Sex is what drove him and made him feel complete and whole. He once told me I was “his Tylenol in life and that when he was having sex it was the only time he felt good about himself”. In the beginning he had to have sex 6-7 times a week. I discovered he was wearing my panties, bras, and pantyhose. Next he delved into pornography, constant self gratification/stimulation and his demands for sex multiplied by three. Finally, he began having an affair with a mutual “friend” (I use that term loosely) and for 15 years he was having sex with her during the day and then coming home to have sex with me at night. How the man managed to work is beyond me.  

  

  

   

I sometimes wished he had physically abused me. I think the scars would have healed more thoroughly. At times I wanted to die. I could see nothing beyond what I lived in.  

   

We had two children; I realized later that these children were also one more way of controlling me. He sensed that I was ready to leave and children would tie me to him. I NEVER regretted having children. They are the light of my life even today at ages 25 and 30. I do regret that he manipulated, used, and abused them also. I thought if I kept myself as a victim he would abuse me and leave them alone. WRONG! Today as adults they are dealing with his abuse; finally giving voice to “family secrets” and no longer allowing him to control any area of their lives.   

  

  

   

Do not fool yourself into thinking that what is done to you will not affect your children. As adults my children are now forced to face their childhood and the unhealthy behavior exhibited by their father. It is not an easy road to travel but we are doing it – the three of us – together with the help of a wonderful psychologist.  

   

For me it took being diagnosed with cancer to find the courage to plan. I decided if I survived cancer I could survive divorce.  I saved loose change, I got a job which provided me with excellent health insurance even though the pay was not great, and I opened my own checking account. I subtly moved money from his account to my own (a few dollars at a time). If he gave me $100.00 for groceries I spent only $80 and deposited the other $20.00 into my account. If he left his wallet on the dresser when he went to shower I would ease out $5.00 and deposit it into my account. I took a second job on weekends.  All of my money from my jobs went into my account. Did he object when he discovered what I was doing? YES! However, I did direct deposit and there was not one thing he could do about it. I would tell him that one day he might be glad that I had saved all that money. He was so into himself that he actually believed that he would one day be able to get his hands on the money in my checking account. In a year’s time I was able to save over $3,000! I found a therapist who helped me build my self esteem and helped me to see just how intelligent and valuable I really am. There are GOOD, caring therapists out there who care. The one I found let me pay what I could afford; sometimes he waved the fee all-together.  I signed up for free classes offered to displaced homemakers.

   

 

 

  

The day I packed my abuser’s bags and threw them onto the porch was the most empowering day of my life. I had the locks replaced with heavy-duty digital pad locks. I promised him that I would tell all of his dirty secrets if he did not let me alone. (Did I mention he was a church officer and well respected in the community?)  I found my backbone and I decided there was nothing he could do to me that would be worse than what I had already endured. I had stayed for 26 years for reasons which had NOTHING to do with love; I left him for one reason – a love of myself!

    

 

 

  

I have never regretted divorcing him. At times it has been hard financially to keep my head above water. Sometimes I have to decide if I am going to buy toothpaste or toilet tissue; if I have enough money to pay both the electric bill and the gas bill; and I do not indulge in activities such as going to the movies, taking vacations, or eating in fancy restaurants.  

  

   

I do own my home and it is truly a home – a place where I feel safe and free to be myself.   All who enter comment on how I have tucked love into every nook and cranny. I bought a car and this year will have it paid off. I pinch pennies every where I can and absolutely delight in the small things in life such as gardening, spending time with friends, good books, and time with my two children. I have a wonderful man in my life; he loves me and takes great delight in telling me how special I am. He loves me for who I am.   Most importantly, I have myself. My children and I will heal from all of the abuse. I firmly believe what God brings you to,  He will bring you through.

   

 

 

  

PLEASE do not feel the only option you have is to stay in the abuse. There are many avenues to take to get out. Make a plan. Do what you can to bring that plan into action. Do what you have to do quietly and efficiently. The sense of empowerment you will receive as you engage in your plan will renew your energy and your resolve to find a better life.

   

 

 

  

DO NOT confront your abuser. Confrontation is wasted energy. They won’t “get it”. You will only hear more of the same mindless banter you have heard in the past and perhaps even invoke anger and physical abuse.

   

 

 

  

I know you do not believe you are capable of making it on your own. That is because you have been conditioned to believe that fallacy.  I am here to tell you that YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN. I am not going to lie and tell you it is always easy. Is the life you are leading now easy?  

   

My ex told me I would not make it 3 months without him. It has been almost 6 years and I am making it. I may not be monetarily rich but I am rich in all the ways that count. I am truly blessed and I will spend the remaining days of my life trying to be the best me I can be. Never again will I allow anyone to steal my life from me.  

   

I am wishing you both courage, tenacity, and a discovery of “self”; qualities which will drive you to reach for all you deserve from life. Most of all I wish for you both to know the feeling of security and love.  There is nothing else in this world that can take the place of finally “coming home”.  

   

Sincerely and prayerfully yours,   

“One who flew with a broken wing”

   

 

 

  

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October 18, 2005, 11:11 am PDT

Yep...

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I have thought of you all so many many times. 

  

  

Hoping and praying that you all were here for each other. 

  

  

Feeling badly that I was not. 

  

  

You have touched my heart and have brought me to tears..........the Porch Light  tradition......I am so touched and elated that it continues.      I myself have turned on the light so very many times in my absence........hoping......hoping that you all could feel me there for you and with you all.    Even though I was not able to even read the boards.  

  

  

Later on........... 

  

  

The national news kept me from coming back over and over again............ when I feel comfortable emailing you, Q..........maybe some day I can explain. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

And in about a month it'll be that time again!   

  

If you don't ever explain, that'll be fine too -- I'm just glad you reconnected. 

  

Know that I care.   

 
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October 18, 2005, 11:13 am PDT

Article about Losers...

MOJO this one is for you! 

  

Here is a good article that can help you recognize red flags. 

  

It also has some really good ways for how end your relationship with a Loser. 

  

http://www.drjoecarver.com/loser.html 

  

For the same guy who wrote the Stockholm Syndrome acrticle that cocoa posted. 

  

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 11:16 am PDT

Another about Depression...

This guy is loaded with good articles: 

  

http://www.drjoecarver.com/depression.html 

  

He describes what I call "THE PIT".  An awful place, the pit. 

  

 
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