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Created on : Friday, September 08, 2006, 01:45:20 pm
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Dr. Phil’s guests feel like another woman is moving in on their men. Amber thought Angie was her best friend, until she noticed her husband, Dennis's, daily phone conversations with her and their unusually close friendship. Dennis claims their relationship is strictly platonic, but Angie's boyfriend, Nick, is also doubtful ... especially after catching them sleeping in the same bed. Then, Michelle says she had no idea her life would become so complicated after Kevin left his girlfriend, Joan, to be with her. Is Joan trying to win Kevin back, or are the ex-lovers really just friends? Share your thoughts here.

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September 13, 2006, 7:44 pm PDT

ignore the holier-than-thou types

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Thanks for your support.  until someone has walked a mile in my shoes they don't know what I've been through.  I just cried when I read your response.  I have spend my whole life looking for love.  I came from an abusive home.  My dad had sex with me for the first time when I was 3.  I married the first man who said all the right things that dad never said.  It wasn't love.  I found love in this affair.  He carried for me.  He was willing to let go of me because I hurt so much but I kept wanting him and telling him that.  And now I am all done with this affair.  I want to move on as the pain's to much.  I know I made a bad choice by having the affair.   You asked why I didn't divorce my husband?  Well I am battling mental illness due to my childhood abuse.  So being on my own right now is not possible.  So anyone one who wants to verbally beat me for this affair go ahead.  you can't say anything else mean to me that my own dad hasn't said already.

I'm so sorry to hear about the awful stuff you've endured in your life.  It's hardly surprising that you fell for someone who treated you lovingly, even if he was committed elsewhere.  You're only human and we all long to feel loved and lovable.  Obviously, you know that this man was bad for you in the long run, because you've ended it with him.  That doesn't mean you're not in hell, because you've given up something that felt good, even though you knew intellectually that it was not good.  You have lost something that felt precious and, naturally, you're going to feel pretty badly about it for some time.  But I admire you for having the courage to listen more to your head than to your heart.  You have a great deal toovercome, but it's clear that you're making a powerful effort.  I will keep youin my thoughts and truly wish you the best - which is what you deserve, although you were denied even basic love for so long.

As for the holier-than-thou preachers, not only are they wrong, but they're so carried away by the sin of pride that all they can do is criticize others.  They're foolish and mean-spirited.  Any god they believe in cannot be happy with them.  Their emotional shortcomings should carry no weight with you.  Practice ignoring the evil message sent to you by your father by ignoring those horrible people who put you down without knowing a true thing about you.  Just pay attention to those who show that they care for you while also being honest when you trip up.  And never forget, we all trip up one way or the other.  Hang in there.

 
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September 13, 2006, 7:46 pm PDT

try reason

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 I was married 27 years to a man that had a lot of female friends and never thought anything of it.  Until this last FRIEND and co-worker of his, she said that she was my friend and I thought that she was.  She really wanted my life, then she played my X and myself against each other.  He worked with her and even though he would see her at his job he was on the phone with her 24-7.  She was very controlling with him and soon I found that I was going through a Divorice.  My life was turned upside down.  That was 5 and 1/2 tears ago.  It's been a long road to go down and it still hurts some times because of our children.  All I can say is be vary carefull of the other so called FRIENDS that are Women.  Been there and will never let it happen again in my life.

Been There in Colorado
You were betrayed by one friend and you conclude that all women are to be distrusted?  That's illogical.
 
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September 13, 2006, 7:54 pm PDT

When you have found REAL love, you know what love WASN 'T

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My boyfriend (whom I have lived with for two years) began talking to his ex about five months after we started going out.  He was telling her about our problems and she moved in for  the kill. He ended up cheating on me with her.  I felt so hurt and didn't trust him. He proposed to me because he though he would loose me but I couldn't say yes in this situation.  Then he told me he wouldn't talk to her anymore.  He said he didn't feel like I loved him and wanted the attention she was giving him.  I found out his e-mail password and found out they work together and he is still talking with her. He used to get really mad at me when I wanted to talk about  it. I feel he got mad because he still had something to hide and he wanted me to just let it go and trust him again.  I am still with him but we almost broke up two weeks ago because I read an e-mail from her professing her love and how much she wanted to be with him. I tried to forgive my boyfriend for cheating but I just keep hoping he will stop talking to her like he promised. He says that I have to accept the fact that they are going to talk at work but I don't think it is a professional relationshiop. Also, he helped her get a promtion and now they work even closer together.  He says that he wants me and only me and he would never be with this girl again but I am not sure I should trust him since he lied about talking to her. I am still with him but I don't know if this relationship will last. He changed his passwords and now I feel he still has something to hide. He keeps reassuring me that he wants to be with me but when I talk about marriage he says we don't get along well enough to get married.  I know this sounds so easy. I should just move on with my life but I love him and I have hope that it will work.  He wants to change and be a better person. Should I be the one helping him do this?

I lived 32 years with a man who did not love me......probably never did.  I did not know that until I found someone who REALLY loves me.  If you have questions about whether your mate loves you or you love him, then YOU DON'T and HE DOESN'T!   I have said many times since beginning my true relationship that I love him because he loves me.  We do that for each other.  The most wonderful thing he can give me is to accept my love.  He returns it constantly.  When you have a TRUE love, there is NO doubt. Period.  So, as long as you are hanging on to this no good taker (and there are only 2 kinds of people in life....givers and takers.......and you appear to be the giver, he the taker)  he will milk you for all you are worth, emotionally, financially, and any other way he can.  Get rid of the bum. My kids say the same thing Dr. Phil does.....it is better to be from a broken relationship than be IN one.  You NEED to move on, make the break, and once you do, EMPOWER YOURSELF by telling him NO just once.  Once you tell him NO the first time (and it's scary, but you have to do it for your own control and self worth), but once you do it the first time, it becomes easier, and it makes you stronger in resisting his whining and demanding because that's all these guys do to women like you and what I used to be.  You MUST move on, get rid of him and work on seeking a mate that fits the good qualities and doesn't have any of the bad ones.  You know what is not good in a mate so don't fall back into that trap.  I'm telling you, being alone is better by far than being in an emotionally abusive relationship, and if you don't think you are in an emotionally abusive relationship you need to take a reality check.  After I got rid of my disloyal husband, I felt like I had a huge weight removed and I realized just how much he and our relationship just plain exhausted me.

 

I have one searching question for you:  WHY WOULD YOU LOVE A MAN WHO TREATS YOU LIKE THIS???  HE DOES NOT RESPECT YOU.

 

If he did it once, he'll do it again......and probably with the same woman.  You have no idea what you DON'T know about.  You should never have to tolerate a cheating mate.  If he really loves you, he would have no desire or need to cheat.  His desire would be to come home and spend time with YOU and no one else.  He would look forward to being with you. 

 
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September 13, 2006, 8:00 pm PDT

Oh Honey......I know what you mean

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 I was married 27 years to a man that had a lot of female friends and never thought anything of it.  Until this last FRIEND and co-worker of his, she said that she was my friend and I thought that she was.  She really wanted my life, then she played my X and myself against each other.  He worked with her and even though he would see her at his job he was on the phone with her 24-7.  She was very controlling with him and soon I found that I was going through a Divorice.  My life was turned upside down.  That was 5 and 1/2 tears ago.  It's been a long road to go down and it still hurts some times because of our children.  All I can say is be vary carefull of the other so called FRIENDS that are Women.  Been there and will never let it happen again in my life.

Been There in Colorado

See my post at "In a Better Place Now".  But she was not the manipulator, she was just dumb.  She was my best friend of over 30 years.  He was the scoundrel, but for someone who professed to be such a good, churchgoing Christian she sure does not live what she professes. 

Best wishes to you, and I know you are a stronger and better person than he or she deserve.  What is wrong with these people??

 
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September 13, 2006, 8:01 pm PDT

Apparently Junior High never ends

What bothers me most about today's show is the not so underlying message that men and women can't be friends. If it was the husband and his cousin hanging out all the time and talking all the time, well...we wouldn't be seeing these people on Dr. Phil. Is it fair to assume there is an affair just because they are the opposite sex. Honestly, how embarrassing and sad is that. A man and a woman are together so they must be cheating and having sex. They're not having sex? They're talking to each other like guys and guys and gals and gals? Why that's not right. Men and women should not be allowed to fraterinize because it could no doubt lead to friendship or worse.

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September 13, 2006, 8:40 pm PDT

09/13 Man Stealers

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You were betrayed by one friend and you conclude that all women are to be distrusted?  That's illogical.
 She wasn't MY Friend, She was HIS.  Plus I never said that ALL women are to be distrusted.  But believe me my 6th since sure works overtime.
 
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September 13, 2006, 9:14 pm PDT

It happened to me..

 My husband of 23 yrs and I were geographically seperated for 9 months..It was a pre-planned  seperation to buy a house, for me to get ajob in our new location and get our son into high school.. We saw eachother every couple of weeks.. 300 miles apart.. well, much to mysurprise, he started talked to a lady that I thought was one of my bestfriends.. they were 1000 miles apart.. they were together in Nov andagain in Jan.. with my blessing (stupid, stupid, stupid).. I found the cell phone bills inMarch.. a week before he was to move to where I was.. They spend HOURS on the phone each and every day.. They both claim that they are just "friends".. nothing happened when they were together in Nov and Jan.. however, he called me from her hotel room..

He moved into his own apartment in May.. Now he says that the reason that he left me has nothing to do with his "friend".. and she claimed to be my friend.. ofcourse, one soon realizes that she never was my friend.. 7 years ofconfiding, socializing, raising children together.. for her to do this.. and he is making me out to be the "bad guy" here.. He's been out of the house for 4 1/2 months and I just can't talk to a lawyer or talk about a divorce. I know that it's coming. but I just can't bear to deal with it right now..

What happened to commitment?? what happened to vows? what happened to friendship?? Do this people not realize what they are doing?? I never believed in "midlife crisises" before.. but I do now.. He is a different man since he started this relationship with her.. is it sexual?? I have no idea.. but that really doesn't matter.. She is more important to him than I am.. His wife of  almost 24 years.. and yes, there are kids involved.. on both sides.. I guess that she is more important than them too..  and that hurts.. I don't think that either of them have any idea of what they have truly done..

I try to take the high road on all things here.. and that's hard to do. I took my vows all those years ago seriously.. why didn't he??


 
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September 13, 2006, 9:52 pm PDT

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 She wasn't MY Friend, She was HIS.  Plus I never said that ALL women are to be distrusted.  But believe me my 6th since sure works overtime.

myself? i have a real hard time trusting other women. I guess i myself know how women think and well have reservations about intentions they may have.  i have NEVER cheated or been the other woman but for some reason i don't trust women.

 

  i have a family member who thought it was alright to walk up to my BF and grab him by the privates everytime my back was turned. which really bothered him because well he was raised with morals and values. after 8 years he has finally told me, but to say i stood my ground and we had a major blowout after is an understatement. we used to be very close until that. some things are just inappropriate and well that is one of them. it has reallyt strained the whole family to a point. that is the sad part but i was not int he wrong there and i do not take any fault for that

 
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September 13, 2006, 9:53 pm PDT

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See my post at "In a Better Place Now".  But she was not the manipulator, she was just dumb.  She was my best friend of over 30 years.  He was the scoundrel, but for someone who professed to be such a good, churchgoing Christian she sure does not live what she professes. 

Best wishes to you, and I know you are a stronger and better person than he or she deserve.  What is wrong with these people??

perhaps they were dropped on their heads as infants and they lost the sense of morals and values? dunno, just a thought though
 
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September 14, 2006, 4:45 am PDT

Why are you still there?

The thing that gets me the most about the show "Man Stealers" is that obviously Angie is not stealing Dennis from Amber. If Dennis wants to be there how is that stealing. Further more how much more pathetic can Amber be after being cheated on so many times and then blaming all her marital problems on Angie. I am sorry but if you can't trust your husband and you are asking others to keep an eye on him than you shouldnt be together in the first place. If all your time is spent consumed by making sure your spouse is where they are supposed to be, when do you spend time with your children?  Give me a break. All of them need to grow up and focus on their children.
 
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