Topic : Cheated On

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:01:22 pm
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If your partner's been unfaithful, find support here. General talk and debate about infidelity can be found in our Infidelity discussion.

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July 28, 2005, 1:27 am PDT

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  We first began dating in college- we bonded as friends first, then as lovers.  When he came to see me at graduation, he met my parents; actually, he had met my father previously, when he was a student of his, when we were first dating. Believe me, this was a surprise to both of us; my last name isn't rare, and I hadn't mentioned he was teaching at the university. In any case, my father did not take it well, and came to my apartment several days later, and threatened to disown me if I continued the relationship.  Why? my SO is black, and I am white.  Not-my-daughter still lives out there...
  So, into the closet we went. Yes, it was sad and frustrating, keeping an important part of my life from my family, but I didn't want to give up either one.
    We had gone through a rough patch about 4 years later, I broke up with him, and shortly after, began a relationship with a coworker.  In retrospect, the coworker helped precipitate the breakup, but I was young and dumber then.  This man (white) was accepted by my family, and all went well, for a while. He turned out to be quite the bundle of pathology- lying, cheating, gaslighting- and I had actually been engaged to him.  He finally left me for another woman; people in the ward he had transferred to told me his ways hadn't changed.  Thank God he moved to the West Coast and out of my life.
    I got in touch with SO, since he had been my best friend before I left him, and we renewed the friendship- he got me through hell, to be blunt, when he could have said "serves you right for leaving me for him".  Time passed- I had declared a relationship moratorium for about a year, and he was dating someone at the time.  Later, after he stopped dating her (amicably, they are still friends), and I felt ready to be involved again, we renewed the relationship.  Years passed- I was living about 65 miles away, working on my Ph.D, and I moved back into the area where he lived. Still living in the closet with regards to my dad- my mom I finally confided in.
    A couple of years later, I was stressed out because I had completely changed careers, and had a 2-hour-a-day commute to boot, and I pulled away from him, then broke up with him. Not because of another man, but because I thought that was the only thing that could give at that point. Stupid, yes, and I hurt him badly.  About 6 months later, we reconciled, and after some healing time, got back on track again.
    A couple more years passed (I'm skipping things like career issues and such, but we were always there for each other), and I was planning to buy the home I was renting.  We had been talking about moving in together, and marriage, and I decided that I needed to resolve things with my dad.  Maybe because of the years gone past, or other things that had happened in our family since- he accepted the SO, and in the last couple of years he had become a wonderful part of my family.
    So why hadn't he moved in yet? I'm one of those people with *major* clutter problems- no animal waste- I've seen those shows- mostly paper, paper, paper, and crafts stuff- too much stuff.  I'd made some inroads, but not much, not enough.  He worried about my safety, and that I was crowding him out so he couldn't move in.  I had started to worry about that, too, when my own annus horribilis began this spring.  He already had been moving boxes into the basement- we were making some progress, when my life went all to hell.
    So, when I was deeply depressed, and trying to hide from the world, and getting my meds increased (good-bye sex drive)- I spent less time with him, we were rarely intimate, and I didn't want to keep burdening him with the rotten things I was going through- he's been going through grief at work, too.  He didn't want to add to my stress by telling me his concerns, so he began confiding in his family, his friends- including a woman who's been his friend since childhood. She was a friend of mine, too.  At the time he went to see her, he thought I was leaving him again.  He had never seen me truly depressed before, did not know that was why I was isolating myself, and I've told you what happened since.  There's been anger, tears, frustration, and confusion on both our parts since.
    Right now, he's off with her; he told me it would be separate rooms, and that he would not be intimate with her.  He is genuinely afraid he has destroyed both our relationship and his friendship with her.  You'd have to know him- he is usually honest to an extreme- in his job, he could get involved in corruption and bribery and all that- and everyone knows that would never happen. It's one of the things I admire about him. So I am trying to take his promise at face value; I knew something was very wrong as soon as he came back from visiting her when they became intimate, last month. I confirmed what happened only a couple of days later. He would not be able to conceal a lie now, I believe.  He knows that honesty is one of the things necessary to save this relationship, if that is what happens.

So there it is- he arrived there yesterday; he said he will call me each night.  He'll be back Thursday, and I guess we will resolve where we are going then. I have contributed to this situation; I am not a victim. So please, don't call him a rat bastard yet- I've been there, believe me- and will not tolerate such behaviour again.  He is the only man in my life whose ass would not already have been kicked and gone by now- we've been together about 20 years all told, and I'm hoping we will get through this and this will only be a sad point in our history someday.

Sorry if I've raved on too long-please wish me luck and strength in the days to come- I'll need both. Advice welcomed and appreciated- it'll be a long couple of days.

I'll check back in by the end of the week.
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Weblizard

I am going to tell you some things you probably already know.

 

  • Living in the closet is a bad idea.
  • You don't make very good choices in men.
  • You thrive on drama and SO is your fallback position when things get rough.
  • The drama and clutter are related.  Professional help is in order.
  • You are a well-educated woman.  Hire help to get the house cleaned out.
  • You have TAUGHT this man how to treat you.
  • PUHLEEZ-seperate rooms and no intimacy; don't be a fool.
  • The five minute phone call every nite is no magic cure.

This is going to be a long road to recovery and will require counseling and a change of medication.  Also both of you need to test for AIDS/STDs now and again in six months.  And pray his bed buddy doesn't get pregnant.  He probably has not used a condom at all.

 

 

         

 
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July 28, 2005, 1:30 am PDT

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Just to say you are not alone in dealing with a husband that wonders.  I just experienced not the exactly the same thing but similar.  I told my husband that I was giving him the freedom that he wanted.  He replied by saying that's not what I want. I said that's not what your actions are telling me.  Believe me this was the most difficult decision I have ever made in my life and it has been difficult to sustain as I still love him and have three children at home.  Before he moved out (2wks ago) I gave hime a choice; If you want to have this marriage then you must be 100% committed to me and our family, nothing less is acceptable.  I gave him Dr Phil's book Life Stategies to help him identify his shortcomings and hopefully gain insight into his stupid actions. It has been very difficult for himself as well as he has trouble understanding himself, but I do believe this is the first time he has ever been challenged to be a better person and not settle for less.  To go any further into detail would take forever to understand the whole picture, but I completely understand how you must be feeling.  To feel rejected by someone you gave your heart to is difficult to bear and understand.  I suggest that read Dr Phil's Life stategies to help you identify want you want in your life.  Start focusing on your desires and needs, make decisions to preserve yourself.  You must decide what you are willing to live with or not willing to live with not anyone else.  Information and knowledge is the best type of power.  I am 40years old/young and find this scary but I will not live my life anymore in pain and fear!  You can not change him, he has to want to change himself!!!!

 

 

BRAVO!  Excellent advice.  Hang in there.

 
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July 28, 2005, 1:43 am PDT

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About a year ago, my husband had an affair while I was out of town visiting children and grandchildren.  I suspected something was going on and returned home unexpectedly.  I caught him with the other woman. 

Moving on, this other woman is no longer around.  I have forgiven my husband and gotten over the anger for his betrayal.  I have had counseling and been on antidepressants.  I realized what mistakes that I made in our relationship and have worked on changing my hurtful behaviors.  My husband even says that he notices the big changes that I have made.

Two weeks before our anniversary, my husband told me that he wanted a divorce.  A couple of days later, he asked to try again.  This has occurred 3 or 4 times since then.  Most recently, we have separated and my husband cannot say that he wants a divorce; however, he is fearful that he will not be able to forgive himself for what he has done to me and that we cannot recapture the feelings of love and romance that we had before all of this happened.  I have faith that God does mean for us to be together but it is very difficult at times especially since I am the only one who feels this way.  Does anyone have any helpful advice for me?

 

Something is rotten in Denmark.  This woman, or her replacement, IS still around.  And she is stringing hubby along big time.    Hubby needs to fish or cut bait.  100% with you or 100% gone. 

 

Hubby is THRILLED you are so commited, because it enables him to continue life as normal.

 

You need legal counsel NOW.  Hubby could very well be draining away your life savings on the current hoochie.  I think a PI is a good idea.  You will at least know the truth.

 

Can't forgive himself.  Too bad.  Can't recapture the love and romance like before.  Guess he should have thought about that earlier.  Marriage problems can be caused by both spouses, but HIS infidelity is NOT YOUR FAULT.

 

Maybe God does intend for you to be together, but just not right now.  And if hubby does not agree you are doomed before you get started.

 

 

 
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July 28, 2005, 1:52 am PDT

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My name is Tina and my husband cheated on me 3 years ago and it lasted almost a year with this woman.  Our marriage ended and he has now "seen the light" and wants me back.  I loved him with all my heart and was very devistated when he had the affair.  I was considering taking him back because he said he loved me and would NEVER do it again.  We have two small children together (3 and 4).  I love him but I don't trust him.  I can't seem to get over what happened and I can't seem to let him go and get on with my life without him.  I'm very confused and would like some advice.  Thank you.

 

Amazing how bright that light is when the hoochie dumps the cheater.  And you can be sure this is what has happened.

 

Cheaters are liars first.  You NEVER thought he would cheat to start with, did you?

 

Unless you are VERY sure of a course of action, do nothing.  Let him sweat a while.  I further suggest physical as well as emotional distance while you make your decision.  Get a third party to be a go-between when he picks up the kids so you don't have to see him.  Do not answer his calls, let the voicemail do it.  Keep all conversations short and relevant.  DO NOT travel down memory lane with him.  This will help more than you can begin to imagine.

 

Without trust I see no point to the relationship.  Go back to archives and read.

 
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July 28, 2005, 8:14 am PDT

Blessed or Doomed

 
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July 28, 2005, 2:05 pm PDT

Dear "played"

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It seems that cheating, lying men are running about in great numbers. My, now ex, husband declared he wanted a divorce because he didn't love me anymore and wanted to go work

on/ find himself.  

 

Of course that was a lie and I knew it. I knew where the woman worked that I felt he was seeing, I had even seen her, but did not know her name. He even admitted at one point tht he was inolved with another woman, but then said he made that up to hurt me.

 

Months after the divorce was final he called and wanted to talk. He thought we should try to get back together. We decided to work things out. Of course, don't you know, he had been celibate all of this time, blah, blah, blah. I really should have never done this. For now I have concrete proof that he was with this woman (27 years younger than he) long before I our divorce papers were even filed.

 

He continues to lie and lie. I told him I have proof, but he won't cave until I show it to him. He insists very emphatically that he will NEVER admit he had an affair because he didn't. So with this attitude I can no longer even try to go on with him.

 

I just need to know how to get the strength to just stay away from him. I KNOW I need to. I've started back in counseling to help me with that.

 

Advice?

 

I've already done the church thing, the singles group thing, the dating thing, the staying busy thing. But all I want is to be with him. God, what is wrong with this? With me?

 

I just ordered two books on how to break addiction to a person. 

 

I feel now that I am just a waiting spot in his life. That he waiting for something else to come along or for that slut to take him back. He denies of course, but he is such an accomplished liar I find myself not believing ANYTHING he says. I need to break my connection with him.

 

HELP!

Girl, there is nothing wrong with you!! There is something wrong with him...he is a very skilled liar and manipulator, and it is GOOD that you already know this-- but since you know this, you have to believe in yourself and get away from this man. You have precious women's intuition for very important reasons- you have an inner voice that guides you, what you need to do is listen to it carefully. Its good that you have ordered books to try to help yourself, but what would happen if the next time he called and wanted to get together, you simply said, "no"...? I urge you to try it, and don't call back. You've got to make a resolution with yourself to stop this back and forth thing with him, because what you feel to be true most likely is; that you are just a waiting spot.

 

It must be very difficult to look him in the eye when he won't even admit to you that he was with another woman...just because he won't admit it doesn't mean he didn't, and you already know this. You have the inner strength to do this!! You do have it in you, you just don't know it yet. Keep trying to keep yourself busy, keep trying to improve yourself, but most important, listen to your inner voice and LOVE yourself! Once you can truly love and respect yourself, other people will, too. Take care and I wish you the best, because you do deserve it.

 
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July 28, 2005, 6:49 pm PDT

Dear Hurtbad

I just wanted to say that I have done some research on Diabetes because my 5 y/o son has it. Diabetes does affect your libido. Also, alcohol will cause a diabetic person to go into a coma and even cause death. Alcohol is nothing but sugar and is definately NOT something a diabetic should drink especially if he is drinking himself into a stupor, he will be drinking himself to his death. He needs to get a job where he can stay at home every night and not be off somewhere else. Counseling will be good for you guys but also HE needs to get counseling for his Diabetes so he will know how to take better care of himself.
 
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July 28, 2005, 8:29 pm PDT

Where are all the men in this place?

 

All women who've been cheated on!  Guess what? Most of the divorces I've seen in my circle have been because the women have cheated. yes indeed girls, you're getting your equality by leaps and bounds. the only difference is, men can't take the ex wives to the cleaners, men don't get alimony by default and men don't easily get custody of the children. so what are the choices?.....suffer in silence, lose your children, lose all the finances and we can't even talk to anyone because it's still considered "whining" for men.

 

You bet it ticks me off.....infidelity hurts men as much as it hurts women.

 

I'm sorry for any spouse male or female who has been cheated on. i don't think you can ever get over it if you've truly dedicated your life to a person and they just step on you like that.

 

 

 

 

 
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July 31, 2005, 12:08 am PDT

Confused am certain he is but have no proof

My husband has been showing signs of infidelity. This has been going on for several months now. As he will call from work, using their land-line and if he calls from his cell phone, I get emotionally disturbed. When he calls all happy or come home extremely happy I am certain he has seen someone else.  Everytime we watch something on TV involving cheating, he always looks down, and appears guilty.  He will not let me have access to his home computer password, or work password. I have called him at work saying I will come out there and take him to lunch he says NO DON'T. or THAT WOULD NOT BE A WISE THING TO DO.  I  told him someone caled and hung up, then they called again, it was a demale voice. He looked down, basically giving it away that he has seen someone else. He has an ofice in the basement of the site he is working at that has a couch and it's own private bathroom.  He frequently works overtime and weekends. I don't know what else to do.  I can't jsut pick up and go driving due to a medical condition. PI's cost too much to hire. what other tactics can I use to get to the truth?  I have contacted his exwife and she said he cheated on her, his best man has admitted to him cheating on his first wife. So, of course I'm more so on my guard. Any suggestions?
 
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July 31, 2005, 5:31 pm PDT

Go to his work

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My husband has been showing signs of infidelity. This has been going on for several months now. As he will call from work, using their land-line and if he calls from his cell phone, I get emotionally disturbed. When he calls all happy or come home extremely happy I am certain he has seen someone else.  Everytime we watch something on TV involving cheating, he always looks down, and appears guilty.  He will not let me have access to his home computer password, or work password. I have called him at work saying I will come out there and take him to lunch he says NO DON'T. or THAT WOULD NOT BE A WISE THING TO DO.  I  told him someone caled and hung up, then they called again, it was a demale voice. He looked down, basically giving it away that he has seen someone else. He has an ofice in the basement of the site he is working at that has a couch and it's own private bathroom.  He frequently works overtime and weekends. I don't know what else to do.  I can't jsut pick up and go driving due to a medical condition. PI's cost too much to hire. what other tactics can I use to get to the truth?  I have contacted his exwife and she said he cheated on her, his best man has admitted to him cheating on his first wife. So, of course I'm more so on my guard. Any suggestions?

He obviously doesn't want you going to his work for a reason: because he doesn't want to get caught.  Wait for a night that he is "working" late and bring him dinner.  Don't go alone; bring a friend who you can trust.  This way if you find what you think you are going to, you won't have to deal with the situation alone.

 

Next time someone calls and hangs up, try *69 on your phone.  As long as it's not an unlisted number, this will provide you with the last number that called.  You can then do a reverse search on 411.com to find out who it belongs to.

 

There is no reason for you to not have the home computer password.  As spouses, there should be nothing hidden from one another.  I can understand the work one because that has customer confidential information involved.

 

I wish you luck.

 

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