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Topic : 03/21 When In-Laws Cross the Line

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(Original Air Date: 09/19/06) Bloody attacks, arrests, mug shots and undercover stings -- sounds like life in a rough part of town, but this is what happens when some in-law conflicts go too far! Maria and her 73-year-old mother-in-law, Catherine, came to blows over their disagreements, landing Maria in jail. Maria's husband, Ted, is tired of being in the middle and wants his mom to change her ways. Why does Catherine say it's not her fault? Can these women learn to drop their fists and get along? Then, follow a chilling true-crime story that made headlines across the nation and destroyed a family. Karen says her in-laws attempted to hire a hit man to kill her, her children and even the family dog, and the whole encounter was caught on tape! How can she and her children overcome this life-changing event? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 21, 2007, 3:39 pm PDT

Truely Blessed

After watching the show, I can only say that I am truely blessed with my in-laws. They are now getting old. My husband and I decided that they are getting to the point that they will need our help. So we decided that they should move in with us. We have now been living all together for one year and I love them dearly. Thank you for showing me how blessed we really are.
 
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March 21, 2007, 3:55 pm PDT

In Time....

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I was with my ex husband for  13yrs. Everything was fine between my mother in law & myself (by fine i mean, she didn't like me, but we tolerated each other)....until my first child was born. When this happened, my mother in law wanted me to hand over my baby to her to be raised and of course, i refused. My husband worked 12 - 14 hrs/day, I was a stay at home mom, but when she wanted to see the kids (I have 4 now), she would call him at work & ask him. The straw that broke the camel's back was this........ she barged into my house one day having said that my husband said she could take my oldest daughter for dinner. I told her she should have called me, I have plans with my kids. She forcefully tried to take my daughter from the house, and I intervened. Told her she was not taking my daughter anywhere. My mother in law then brutally assaulted me in my house, in front of my children, almost knocking my 3yr old down the stairs in the process.  I went to the doctor and had the damage done to me documented, and warned if she ever came to my house again, I would have her charged.  My husband took her side. We have now been divorced for 7 yrs. I have moved away. 

As far as I see things, mothers will never accept any woman in their son's life & will do anything she can to intervene and ruin the relationship.

 

Inlaws should NOT get away with this. They should learn to butt out of something that doesn't involve them and only put forth their input when asked !!

I just got done watching this show and had to check the message boards, this message  struck a chord with me because you ended up divorcing your husband.  I divorced my husband because of his lack of back-bone when it came to his mother.  Everything was fine until we moved next to them.  And then the judgments came and the put-downs.  My mother-in-law could go on and on for hours about my "attitude".  She never had any solid examples of my behavior, she never said I was a bad wife or a bad mother to "her" grandchildren (my step-children) but she would hang her hat on my attitude.  She almost slapped me once and my husbands lack of reaction and support of me was the final straw.  He chose to side with them, they were wealthy and I think he was afraid to lose his future inheritance.   He was the love of my life and I was devasted, I moved to be near my family who supported me and treated me like a normal human being.  Well, guess what?  Over the years my ex-in-laws turned on thier own son, the same things they said and did to me, they did to him.   It was the last thing he expected them to do since he had been so "obedient".  It certainly didn't surprise me.  Last year I called my ex-husband and found that I still had feelings for him, I hadn't heard his voice for 2 years and when I finally did, I knew I still loved him.  We exchanged a few emails after we talked, arranged to meet, started dating and we're getting married this year.  He hasn't spoken to his mother in over 2 years and lives next door to them.  So sad.  Actually the story is even more twisted, I believe my mother-in-law actually liked me and always did, but her controlling husband (father-in-law) wouldn't allow her to have friends, I believe he's the true culprit in destroying the relationship I had with my mother-in-law.  I do have some pleasant memories of good times her and I had shared, she knew I loved her son, I thought her and I were friends, I miss that friendship, I'm sure it's even harder on my fiance. 
 
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March 21, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

03/21 When In-Laws Cross the Line

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I just got done watching this show and had to check the message boards, this message  struck a chord with me because you ended up divorcing your husband.  I divorced my husband because of his lack of back-bone when it came to his mother.  Everything was fine until we moved next to them.  And then the judgments came and the put-downs.  My mother-in-law could go on and on for hours about my "attitude".  She never had any solid examples of my behavior, she never said I was a bad wife or a bad mother to "her" grandchildren (my step-children) but she would hang her hat on my attitude.  She almost slapped me once and my husbands lack of reaction and support of me was the final straw.  He chose to side with them, they were wealthy and I think he was afraid to lose his future inheritance.   He was the love of my life and I was devasted, I moved to be near my family who supported me and treated me like a normal human being.  Well, guess what?  Over the years my ex-in-laws turned on thier own son, the same things they said and did to me, they did to him.   It was the last thing he expected them to do since he had been so "obedient".  It certainly didn't surprise me.  Last year I called my ex-husband and found that I still had feelings for him, I hadn't heard his voice for 2 years and when I finally did, I knew I still loved him.  We exchanged a few emails after we talked, arranged to meet, started dating and we're getting married this year.  He hasn't spoken to his mother in over 2 years and lives next door to them.  So sad.  Actually the story is even more twisted, I believe my mother-in-law actually liked me and always did, but her controlling husband (father-in-law) wouldn't allow her to have friends, I believe he's the true culprit in destroying the relationship I had with my mother-in-law.  I do have some pleasant memories of good times her and I had shared, she knew I loved her son, I thought her and I were friends, I miss that friendship, I'm sure it's even harder on my fiance. 
I am so glad things are finally working out for you.  There are so many  more reason why my ex husband & myself will never get back together. We do not even talk unless it concerns the kids and even then I find it hard to be civil.   Live & learn.  I won't let it happen again. I have been single with my kids ever since & see no change in that for the future.
 

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March 21, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

Hang in there

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I saw today's show for the first time.  Just 2.5 weeks ago, I was arrested by my 'daughter-in-law' and sat in a jail cell while my husband had to bail me out.

 

History:  My son's 18 yr old girlfriend was kicked out of her home 20 months ago - right after graduating high school.  We thought we were doing a nice thing, and knowing she would go off to college in the fall - allowed her to move into our house.  Her parents pulled her college funds and we were stuck having her live with us.  Our son was a senior in high school at the time. 

 

Our worst nightmare happened - she got pregnant - and we strongly believe - on purpose.  Here we are 20 months later.

 

Our son graduated from  high school, and they are going to community college and working 'a pt job'.  Our lives have been hell since she moved in.  She's lazy, won't help out around the house AT ALL, and is extremely disrespectful towards me.  My husband and I work professional FT jobs, but our 2nd job hit us when we walked in the door.  Many time the baby was 'thrown' at us to care for.  Of course we had our regular times we babysat, which we committed to, while they were at school/and/or work.  Kayla had a sense of entitlement and was so disrespectful.

 

After a couple months, we noticed her 'blow-ups' and home disruptions were about 30 days apart.  Hmmm. PMS?  Finally, my husband and I found a therapist and went to see her.  We needed help with the kids.  They had no direction, desire, or maturity - we needed help.

 

Two months ago she had another blow up and called 911 "to find out about custody laws were."  Of course, the police were dispatched to our house.  My son told me over the phone and I rushed home.  Two cop cars in my driveway!  How devastatingly embarrassing.

 

30 days later - blow up again - only this time she went to the police station, made a report, and I was arrested on 3 charges of Domestic Violence.  Her parents who have not assisted with one thing since she moved out (by the way, we gave them both a car, cell phones, paid all the bills, even paid for 90% of the things for the baby- where her parents have never even bought him a gift) they have taken Kayla and Aidan in, but not our son.  He was welcomed there -but after one week - they let him move in.

 

I feel our son has turned his back on me.  We have begged her to go to the prosecutor and tell him she doesn't want anything to happen to me - but she's too lazy.  She can't be bothered.  While I was sitting in a jail cell - she had the nerve to tell my son, "I guess I won't be able to move back in, huh?"  I have always known she hated me, and during our argument - she shouted 5 times, I HATE YOU.

 

Now, I'm going through the legal process, and although the prosecutor told my husband he has no problem dropping the charges - I still can't get over this.  It's absolutely crushed me.

 

We haven't seen our grandchild - she won't let me.  She'll let my husband - but not me.  My husband says we're a team - if I can't - he won't.  She has no desire to mend our family. 

 

Where do you go from here?  I won't be held by her emotional hostage.  My husband and I have come to terms we won't see our little Aidan any  more.   How do you heal?  I know they are young, but she has anger issues and hates authority figures.

 

I was so moved by your story - how sad for you that your granddson's mother cannot see how lucky she has been to have you and your husband in her life. I hope that everything turns out all right for you and your entire family.  I'll think "good thoughts" for you and yours.
 
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March 21, 2007, 4:19 pm PDT

Mother in law troubles

 

I usually do not get involved in message boards etc but I felt compelled to write.  I watched the episode with the mother in law and daughter -in law and I just wanted to ask if there is something else going on. 

 

My own mother, who is 61 years old, three years ago started saying terrible things to me and mean things to my children and when confronted always denied ever saying those terrible things or she couldn't remember.  It has been three years since our big confrontation and we had set boundries with us and the children but she always would not follow them and would always deny that she did something or said something wrong or couldn't remember.  She is now being tested for dementia at my expense as my siblings stand up for her as they do not live close to her to see her behavior.  She has now been, starting this year, saying mean things to friends and other family members.  

 

Because of me starting to look into the testing my siblings and other family members do not want to talk to me and my father says that I am the black sheep of the family as my mother says terrible things about me and I moved away 6 months ago across country and her behavior continues.

 

I feel by watching this show today, my mother acts the same way saying " on the bible I would never say that" but in fact she did but can't remember so of course her innocence is very convincing as she really believes that she has done nothing wrong.  Unfortunately in my case setting boundries did not work as she would constantly disrespect our wishes but could not remember doing the things she did.  You have to realize that one day she would call and say " you are damaging your children and I can't wait until they are sixteen so they can leave you and move in with me"  then the very next day or even that evening she would call and in a happy voice say "hi how are you" not even remembering what she had down earlier that day.

 

I hope that these people can work out their problems but please look into early dementia symptoms and maybe that would explain the bizarre behavior or possibly a medication is causing a problem with behavior.

 

Good luck

 

 
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March 21, 2007, 4:20 pm PDT

God loves mother-in-laws, too

I've been a mother-in-law three times and am looking to another time when I will welcome another one into the fold.  :)  The situations I saw on the show today were too shameful for words.  I find it hard to believe that adults are behaving so badly and even criminal.  Unfortunately, it was a sad reminder ot how things were with my own mother-in-law many, many moons ago.  She died in March 1991 after a brief battle with cancer.  Her son, my husband, had to go to  the Gulf with his battalion and I came to her from Germany to be her care-giver with Hospice.   At first she tried to make it as hard on me as she could.  And I wanted to leave that place and go back to Germany where my little doggie was and pray for my husband's safe return,  but I knew I couldn't.  My husband was in a dangerous place and his mother was terminally ill.  Finally I had had it and made plans to return to Germany.  Before I was to leave her, I sat down in front of her and told her what would might be like after I left.  Strangers would be taking care of her and they would not put up with her shannigans.  She relented and asked me to stay.   It was hard being there and still stressful but minus the animosity like before.  I could deal.  After years of having this woman verbally abuse me and try to break up my marriage, the last thing she told me before she died was, "I love you".  
 

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March 21, 2007, 4:27 pm PDT

Do not Underestimate those "frail" old ladies

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Right away, I'll say that I can tell that Mom-in-law in this case is clearly not the easiest person in the world to get along with. I also have some very difficult in-laws who have used the We-are-fine-Southern-folk on me. That said, I can totally identify with Maria's frustration. But even so--is anyone else completely horrified that a 29 year old woman would savagely rip apart a 72 year old woman's arm? Does any sort of annoyance justify such a brutal attack? Maria's justification that she felt that she and her children were being threatened is outrageous. "Threatened" by the elderly grandmother that Maria admittedly adores the grandchildren and is herself adored by them? Also--was it or was it not brought up that Maria has repeatedly thrown things around the house and physically assaulted her husband?

 

She sounds to me like a woman who has a severe and violent temper and was justly prosecuted. I was very dissapointed by Dr. Phil's criticisms of the decision to prosecute Maria. Frankly, I have on many occassion found my in-law's behavior to be very rude and/or unfair. But I wouldn't dream of savagely attacking my MIL like some sort of wild animal would!!

 I can tell you this - my "frail" elderly mother is a vicious, angry mentally ill woman who (the last time I ever saw her) could hurt a person and was in fact physically  abusive to my father before he died - he himself told me she hurt him  - while he was recovering from quadruple bypass surgery!

The Mom in law on this show is obviously lying - she's presenting herself as a total victim, taking no responsibility whatsover for any of the events that have occurred. To listen to her it is a HUGE mystery as to why on earth her son would "say such things" about her. I was raised by a person like this "mom" in law - her lack of ownership regarding her part in the destruction of her son's family is proof that she's the big liar. I'm sure there a great many skeletons in that woman's closet. Often people like her project their own "sins" that they are ashamed of onto people they see as being unable to protect themselves  - the husband clearly doesn't give the impression to anyone - least of all his mother - that he is his wife's protector from such abusive behavior.

 
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March 21, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

out of control parent

I sympathize with this family. I too have/had an out of control parent. They did/do not see that they are the problem with trying to control an adult child. I finally learned to limit association with this parent for my sanity and for protection of my children. By protection, I am referring to emotional abuse from their grandparent. I am responsible for my children's safety as long as I am raising them. Unfortunately, if an elder parent does not own up to their control issue, it is up to both parents to limit their interaction for peace of mind. I know how hard it is to break ties, but your children will be in a better situation when they see that you have situations under control as THEIR parents.
 
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March 21, 2007, 4:32 pm PDT

03/21 When In-Laws Cross the Line

This old woman should be in jail for what she is doing to her son.  A meddling mother-in-law is worse that the devil.
 
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March 21, 2007, 4:58 pm PDT

Is this how we honor them?

I agree that the older generation should be treated with more respect. Certainly not knocked to the floor, slammed into the coffee pot and clawed.

Someday the children these young women are raising will be grown and I wonder how they will feel if their own children turn their backs on them the day after Mom and Dad pay for the big wedding.
 
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