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Topic : 01/01 Revenge of the Exes

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(Original Air Date: 09/20/06) Have you ever wanted revenge on an ex-lover? How far would you go? First, look inside a legal battle that has been brewing all summer. Tasha, creator of the Web site DontDateHimGirl.com, says her site is a public forum for women to share their dating experiences and tell the "truth" about their exes. Todd says false information about him was posted on Tasha's site, and he thinks she should be liable for the negative posts. He has filed a lawsuit against her and two of the women who posted. When they face off for the first time, who does Dr. Phil think is right? Then, Ashley found out her boyfriend, Corey, had cheated on her three times during their 10-month relationship. Now, she says she wants to get revenge by exposing him to the world. So why did she recently call Corey and beg for sex? And, Corey comes clean with Ashley and tells her how he really feels. Talk about the show here.

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September 20, 2006, 4:45 pm PDT

resposibility

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I understand the benefits of 'Venting'.  It can be very therapeutic.  But i also realize that while in that emotional state some people may not have matured enough to learn how to control their emotions enough to stop themselves from crossing the line to malisousness.  In therory,  the web site is a good idea,  but Tasha seems to be very intelligent and should know as most of us do that there are some people while in that state will say things to harm & hurt with both truth & lies.  I feel if you are allowing these people to possible make libelous/slanderous statements, and even going as far as allowing them to post a photo,  then you should not allow them to do it annomonously.  If one has the right to accuse.......the other has the right to meet his acusor.......There are so many nuts out there that there's the possibility the girl had never even dated the person and is just trying to hurt.  If you are going to take on a responsibility to hold a public forum....no matter what the medium.........  then you sould be responsible enough to ensure that it's fair to all parties
i agree with most of what you said,but think about the fact that Todd had the opportunity to respond to the writers of the comments and chose not to. by not douing so that speaks to the validity of what was being said. he never took the opportunity to confront either  woman. that fact makes me go:  HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????
 
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September 20, 2006, 4:45 pm PDT

John Versus Tasha

I suspect John just wants the money.

 

If he wanted a good reputation, he would not have made access to these comments made about him available to millions of people that would otherwise never learned of them.

 

Is it possible that John and Tasha, admittedly once together, have hatched a scheme to sue the site owner and share in the money if he wins the suit?  To enhance credibility, he names the site owner, and the two people that posted defamatory comments. 

 

An attorney with knowledge of the law, perhaps identifies a loophole in the website privacy policy making it possible for him to profit in a situation such as this.  If he saw such an opportunity, is it illegal for him to exploit it?

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:45 pm PDT

Too much time on their hands

These women have WAY too much time on their hands.  We have all been screwed over at one time or another, does that give us the right to go out and make stuff up about them to make them look bad?  Even if it is true, let the other women figure it out on their own.  We all (myself included) have done things I'm sure we don't want posted all over the internet and if you say you haven't you are dillusional.  If Tasha is the one in charge of that website the buck stops with her, for her to take absolutely NO responsibility is a shame.  She is hosting that website as a credible source and needs to treat it as such.  As far as Mr. Playa Playa and the blonde that likes to jump through windows, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you walk in on your man with another woman.....he probably isn't all that into you..  I can slightly excuse her behavior due to her age, but there has to come a time when you take responsibilty for the choices you make.
 
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September 20, 2006, 4:45 pm PDT

Bad Deal Her Website

To me it is SAD to see someone have a website that lets others slam anyone.  They don't know all the issues involved and Tasha has set up her website to allow women to bash ex's in a public worldwide forum.  It ruins lives, jobs, on and on.  No one has the right to destroy or damage somones reputation and life.  I hope he wins his lawsuit.  I do think that if someone posted something negative about her in a open forum such as the web she would be suing also.  This kind of abuse of another person without knowing all the facts should be stopped.

I hope Dr Phil keeps us informed of what happens.  I wonder if the ones who post negatively about someone have gone on to have a Happy Life.  With so much anger or revenge in their souls - I don't think they probably have.

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

Libelous

No matter what the moral quandries are, it is illegal to ruin the reputation of another person without legal proof... besides it's not actually illegal to cheat on someone (when marriage isn't involved).  Comments about your ex may be true... but they may also be un-true, and there is no way to make the distinction on hearsay. 

 

In this new age of technology, people seem to forget the basics of publishing:  you are unable to slander someone, especially someone who is not a public figure and has no reason to be spoken of in a very public realm.

 

That Napster guy wasn't necessarily stealing the music, but he was punished nonetheless because he provided a way for others to steal music, remember.

 

Bad exes usually create bad lives for themselves, so therein lies the self punishment.  Ladies, go write a song or something - like Alanis Morisette's 'You Oughta Know'... hell, write the guy a letter... getting sued is more trouble than he's worth.

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

09/20 Revenge of the Exes

Okay I completely understand why it sounds like a good thing, exposing cheating men.  Of course none of us want to date a cheater but I agree with Dr. Phil. For someone to post Anonymously is cowardly. 

 

If the site allowed equality between men and women then it wouldn't be quite as troublesome. Only because then the man could address the situation properly, by contacting the woman trashing him, or at least give an explanation on the site as to what really happened.

 

Part of me does think it would be beneficial for there to be a list some place with a all the cheaters on there but let's face it...how can anyone know what's true or not?  And I do think the men, regardless of their crappy history, do have a right to privacy.

 

Now with that said, I think the website causes more harm than good. It seems to only be a site where women trash men and it's not in the least bit mature. The women on there sound like a bunch of high school girls.  Why can't they just say something like "I dated this guy...let's call him Todd..." do you really need to post his full name and his picture?

 

During the show I kept wanting to duct tape Trisha's mouth shut. She would not stop talking.  But I can't see how she can get away with this. She's ruining the man's reputation, and just like rumours in high school and work, an internet post spreads widely and quickly. It's like wildfire. Just like with rumours at work most people don't care about the truth, they just keep spreading it...and there are laws to protect people in the workplace.  Also, it's like the man said, if you can put it in the paper and be called libel, then why not the internet?

 

I think Trisha should be found "libel" or guilty of defamation of character...or in the least, slander (i don't know if that's considered the same thing).

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

How far is too far

I cannot believe that anyone could confuse freedom of speech with bashing someone on the internet. If you have a "cause" that needs to be heard, then you should use every avenue possible to be sure you get heard. If you are unlucky enough to get burnt by a looser----get over it. It is degrading to women to post your private life on line for everyone to see and just as Dr. Phil pointed out, you have to own part of the relationship. The woman that hosts the website is the biggest disgrace of all. This site is nothing more than a place for women to air their ignorance and mistakes. I agree with the man----if the women are going to remain anonymous, then why do you let them name the men and show their pictures. If you are going to say something about someone, you should at least sign it. As Dr. Phil says, "To own it, you first have to acknowledge it." I am a mother, wife, grandmother, and the operation manager of a business. I have worked hard all my life to prove I am equal to any man. So I would like to know why this woman does not have a sight for the men to post their comments. After all, do we not want equality?? Let's face it, she doesn't care about these women. She's not offering counseling, trying to console them, or even using these posting for anything other than to make money. I'm just sorry Dr. Phil didn't tell her how ridiculous she not only made herself look, but all the women who posted on her sight as well. The comments about him trying to get dope dealers and murderers off-----come on---ever heard of right to representation or how about innocent until proven guilty????? My father used to say something to me that I feel appropriate for this woman. "It is better to appear ignorant, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

 

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

09/20 Revenge of the Exes

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OMG are you kidding me! Regardless of whatever this guy has or has not done, what these women are doing is no different that what youth are doing online - only we call it CYBER BULLYING! This is the excatly one of the points I make in my thesis which is on the topic of cyber bullying. If a youth says something negative, hurtful or hateful against a peer it is labled as bullying, but yet were does this behaviour become acceptable ? Is it just because they are adults that they seem to think it is ok? I know Dr. Phil will set them straight on this. If we want our young people to treat others with respect online than we as adults need to set that example and not engage in and model the same behaviour we are telling them is not ok!

 

Dr. Phil I know you have my back on this don't you!

I just want to give your props! this was an outstanding post~
 
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September 20, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

What are they thinking?

    I turned this show on thinking I was going to agree with the woman's side of this issue.  I can't believe how wrong I was.  This is a really distressing episode.  These two women can't possibly be as 'one-sided' as they seem.  They wouldn't be able to function in the world this way.

   Tasha is clearly vicious and her coldness doesn't serve her well.  I'm absolutely certain that there are terrible dates out there, and it looks like she's one of them.  Her insistence upon revenge is personal.  That's why she can't let it go. 

   Ashley is a stalker.  That tells you all you need to know.  That's not cute and that's not funny.  She hasn't been able to get her way and she's making him pay.  She picked a jerk to date.  So did he.  She needs some real help, and not horizontally.

   This being said, there are terrible men out there.  And women are often victimized by them.  But there is far more empowerment in standing back, realising YOU are doing the choosing and instead of continuing to date these losers, invest in some therapy.  Spend a little time taking care of yourself instead of this empty vengeance.

 
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September 20, 2006, 4:47 pm PDT

What a bully

I don't agree with what these women are doing, but I don't agree with what he's doing either. He's a guy who is not getting his way and throwing a fit about it.  You can't sue someone for just having a website. He should have thought about what he was doing to the girls he was dating.   If he really cares about what these women said about him he should take Dr. Phil's advice and rebuke everything, instead of wasting time and effort in court. The guy is a joke.  Would you date him?  
 
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