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Topic : 01/01 Revenge of the Exes

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(Original Air Date: 09/20/06) Have you ever wanted revenge on an ex-lover? How far would you go? First, look inside a legal battle that has been brewing all summer. Tasha, creator of the Web site DontDateHimGirl.com, says her site is a public forum for women to share their dating experiences and tell the "truth" about their exes. Todd says false information about him was posted on Tasha's site, and he thinks she should be liable for the negative posts. He has filed a lawsuit against her and two of the women who posted. When they face off for the first time, who does Dr. Phil think is right? Then, Ashley found out her boyfriend, Corey, had cheated on her three times during their 10-month relationship. Now, she says she wants to get revenge by exposing him to the world. So why did she recently call Corey and beg for sex? And, Corey comes clean with Ashley and tells her how he really feels. Talk about the show here.

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September 20, 2006, 8:56 pm PDT

Get Over It

Having sex with 17 year olds is wrong, period! So if he is that old and getting with a teen, then he got what he deserved. I have a feeling that she will be ok now. She just needs to realize that he was trying to line her up to have sex with her later. As far as the website goes, I will bet that there are sites up about women too. Back in the day didn't folks just write the same stuff on bathroom walls? While I am betting, he will not get paid in his lawsuit. What's next sue myspace?
 
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September 20, 2006, 8:56 pm PDT

Seriously??

First of all, people need to grow up.  Secondly, I think people need to grow a thicker skin.  You can't believe everything you read on the internet, in the newspapers, etc.  If you want to really know the truth, do your own research and find out.  People need to quit getting so easily offended.  I am so tired of people complaining about he said, she said, stuff.  It's a fact of life, people talk, people run their mouths, and people lie.  No people don't have the 'right' to bad mouth people for no reason.  I think as a whole, we all need to learn TOLERANCE.  I've been wronged by my ex.  I have been to the website Don't Date Him Girl.  I think the site is rather entertaining.  And there are posts on their against women as well.  Who knows how many of them are true.  Just because one guy did you wrong, doesn't necessarily mean that he will do the next girlfriend wrong.  It just means that you and him were not right for each other.  But to take this to court, like this isn't America and we don't have freedom of speech?  That's an overkill.  I personally, don't have time to worry about insignificant things such as these.  So what if someone posted something about me on the internet?  The people that really know me and care about me will know if it's true or not, because they already know my character.  In my opinion, he needs to drop the lawsuit and she should update her site so last names or any other personal information (addresses and such) is not posted.  There are privacy laws out there.  However, if you don't want your dirty laundry aired.....keep it washed and clean.

And revenge on your ex?  I personally believe in Karma.  Yes, I have been done wrong on many occasions.  I look at it like this.....it will come back to them eventually.  I've seen it with my own eyes.  I don't need revenge, they will bring all the bad luck and bad situations back on themselves long after I am out of the picture.  I don't need to waste my time and energy on the drama.  I have more important things in my life to worrry about (my son, family, job, college..).  Bottom line is no matter what you do you can't please everyone, but be prepared to deal with the consequences of your actions no matter what side you are on.  Think first.  Don't just react because your feelings are hurt.  That is what children do and as adults we should all act more responsibly.

 
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September 20, 2006, 8:57 pm PDT

Women's power?

 I saw the show today and felt a sense of shame for women. I found to be arrogant and sense that she is getting revenge on someone by virtue of having this site.

I for one am sick of hearing about 'he cheated on me, he did this to me'. Remember people treat you the way you let them. We get so busy talking on emails, cell phones, sites, etc that there is no room for listening yet along hearing from our inner voice. Which I bet if some of the women using this site would look back would be able to see that they were warned.

My Grandmother use to say the woman is the more powerful in a relationship - be careful you don't give your power away. So for those posting to that site - you are really admitting how much power you gave to the 'wrong doer'.
 
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September 20, 2006, 8:57 pm PDT

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In my opinion, this type of site (DontDateHimGirl.com) is completely irresponsible, and, as many others before me have already said, can cause severe damage to the life of the person being falsely accused.  In essence, this man Todd has been unfairly 'tried' on a message board, as opposed to a court of law, with NO facts, NO evidence, just a number of spiteful accounts of his supposed 'bad behavior' that we (the general public) are supposed to accept at face value. 

 

The owner Tasha and the women who have participated in trashing this man's reputation are exactly what Dr. Phil has described them as; which is GUTLESS COWARDS.  In a court of law, a person falsely accused has the Constitutional right to confront his accuser(s).  When a person is falsely accused on a message board, as Todd has been, this same person has NO constitutional rights at all.  That is, basically, the same as a falsely accused defendant being convicted without ever having had a fair and impartial trial.  As a criminal defense attorney himself, I'm sure Todd would agree.

 

As far as I'm concerned, it's an outrage, and this kind of irresponsibility is what drives the number of what are very often false accusations of 'sex crimes' that have ended up getting innocent defendants wrongfully convicted, ALSO without evidence. I remember a program Dr. Phil did last October (2005) on a couple where the husband, a high school principal I believe, was falsely accused and arrested. He and his wife had to put up a $50,000 bond to keep him out of jail. He was fired from his job, many of his friends abandoned him, or should I say, both of them.  Luckily, the girl who made the accusation contacted a reporter, and recanted, admitting to her that the accusation was false.  The charges were then dismissed and the case never went to trial, but the terrible damage had already been done. This man was VERY lucky; as others who were falsely accused have been falsely arrested, tried by an often biased court, and wrongfully convicted.

 

To me, this kind of behavior exhibited by Tasha and the women who have trashed Todd publicly on this site amounts to exactly the same thing.  It's very convenient to hide behind anonymity and claim he or someone else gave her a sexually transmitted disease, with no medical report to back that claim up.  For all we know, EVERY story about Todd could well be fiction, since Tasha herself admitted 'it's not my job to determine the truth or falsehood of the statements made at my website.'  Or words to that effect.  Well GEE, Ms. Tasha, YOU are the owner, are you not?  Then WHOSE job is it?  The buck stops with YOU.  Therefore, you not only deserve to be sued, you also deserve to LOSE.  And I sincerely hope that you will.  Best of luck to Todd when the suit comes to court.  I'm hoping for a big win.

 

Susan

JUSTICE Before Conviction


 

 
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September 20, 2006, 8:59 pm PDT

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It appears she is not requiring her users to follow the rules that she put in place.  The following statement was pulled directly from the "terms" of her website.  It specifically states that you should not be posting statements about sexual orientation and I believe the posting stated that Todd was bi-sexual. To me this alone should be grounds to have the posting removed from the site. 

 

You will not post on the Service, or transmit to other Registered Users, any defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, obscene, profane, offensive, sexually oriented, threatening, harassing, racially offensive, or illegal material, or any material that infringes or violates another party's rights (including, but not limited to, intellectual property rights, and rights of privacy and publicity).

 
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September 20, 2006, 9:00 pm PDT

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OMG are you kidding me! Regardless of whatever this guy has or has not done, what these women are doing is no different that what youth are doing online - only we call it CYBER BULLYING! This is the excatly one of the points I make in my thesis which is on the topic of cyber bullying. If a youth says something negative, hurtful or hateful against a peer it is labled as bullying, but yet were does this behaviour become acceptable ? Is it just because they are adults that they seem to think it is ok? I know Dr. Phil will set them straight on this. If we want our young people to treat others with respect online than we as adults need to set that example and not engage in and model the same behaviour we are telling them is not ok!

 

Dr. Phil I know you have my back on this don't you!

I agree with your viewpoint.
Unfortunately what should be and what is are very different.
The subject here is: should She be held responsible for what is posted on her boards?
That is like Dr. Phil being sued for us writing on this site. That is rediculas! I take responsibility for my own words. No one should take the fall for me.
This is slightly different from being a bully. It is very much like a tabloid! Instead of stars, these are everyday people. Is it wrong? Ultimately each individual has to make that decision for themself. I believe if it is false it is wrong. If it is true it could save womens heart.
I don't believe in revenge. Karma takes care of that for us.
In this case, there is accountability here on two sides.
The Man who behaves badly, and the woman who slanders. But, I wouldn't blame the host.
If you do, then my space goes, chats go, any internet forum can be taken out. Even this one.
You see, there are civil rights at risk here.
You sound like a good person. Stay that way! Keep doing what is right.
 
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September 20, 2006, 9:00 pm PDT

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Can I come?  Will there be scones? ;)
Yes there will be scones and some lovely jellies as well.
 
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September 20, 2006, 9:01 pm PDT

it is a sad day when people who are soppose to be adults act like this

and it relly makes me wonder what kind of parents they will one day make, boy *(god please watch over all these poor children those people are goin to be bringing into this world, dr phil cant help them all but he will try, bless him for this effort,)
 
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September 20, 2006, 9:02 pm PDT

Revengfe of the exes

Wow! I can't stand when people talk over each other.  I wish Dr. Phil would have given them (especially her) heck for that.  Asside from that, I can't understand why people waste so much time and energy on what has been.  Move on already!!  What do they get out of being nasty.  If you ask me, they are just as bad as the person they are bashing.  and Ms. revenge web site is the queen of them all!  I found nothing to like about her.  I can see the legal point that she shouldn't be responsible for what others write, but she is responsible for putting the forum out there in the first place.  I DO NOT believe people should be naming names and posting pictures.  If you're going to do that, then name the name and show the picture of the women writing the nasties.
 
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September 20, 2006, 9:02 pm PDT

09/20 Revenge of the Exes

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but the person sitting in the seat in the theater dosnt sue the owner of the movie theater for someone yelling fire... and the person in the airport dosnt sue the owner of the airport if someone yells bomb.

 

your right we dont know  if what they are saying is true....

we also dont know that todd didnt write that about himself... just to sue the site maker.

he is a lawyer dont forget.

 

 

I suppose you are right.

 

The problem is, Todd can't face his accuser. And if what was said about him is false, then he has the right to face said accuser. So, no Tasha shouldn't get sued but I think she should be compelled to give up the identiy of teh accuser.

 

It's like if someone accuses you of a crime, the defendant has the right to face that person in a court of law. This is obviously not the same thing.

 

There needs to be some responsibility at some point. That's what I'm trying to say.

 
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