Topic : Coping with the Death of a Child

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Created on : Friday, September 15, 2006, 03:28:03 pm
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Losing a child is especially traumatic, share your memories, stories and support with others here.


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June 26, 2008, 2:20 pm PDT

Maybe someone can help.....

First all, I am a parent but I am also a GRANNY.  I sent Dr Phil and Email on 3/6/8 and have never received a reply so thought I would post it here and maybe if Dr Phil or his staff reads his Message Boards he might get the message.  So any help or advice might just help.


 

Dr Phil,
I need your advice and help to help my daughter, Tiffany.  I will try to explain why.
5/2/03 my daughter lost her oldest son to suicide.  He was only 19 and 3/8/04 she lost her youngest son also to suicide and he was only 18.    It seems that Tiffany has tried to cope with life after loosing both her boys and seems to be okay most of the time, but I know and the rest of the family knows that she is not alright all the time.  She sleeps a lot and wants to be alone most of the time.   Her oldest son left behind a precious child, now five, and that has been her life line and for all of us.  Tiffany keeps him a lot on weekends but here lately she is spending a lot of her time dozing while she has him.    Tiffany has a great job as a medical assistant for a Urologist and loves her job and has said that that is what keeps her going during the day.   It seems that Tiffany doesn't feel good about herself and doesn't know why she wants to sleep all the time and has her moments crying and saying things that make us worry that she might try and join her sons.  She has never grieved in order to go on with life.   Dr Phil, please help me in some way to help my daughter get out of the depression she is in that she says she isn't.  And how I have survived this far myself after loosing both my grandsons, is beyond me.  I feel that loving and carrying for my daughter and great grandson has been my survival.  My friends and family have also helped me in many ways.   I hope that you will do a show on survivors of suicide and it will help my daughter want to live and turn her life around for her precious grandson and people that love her dearly. I hope that I will get a response from you, being that I am desperate to help my daughter.   Thanking you in advance,
A worried Mother and Granny.

 
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July 2, 2008, 12:56 pm PDT

Do you know the movie "John Q"?

I just watched that movie for the first time with my class. I am instructor at Ross and teach Medical Assisting. We are studying law and ethics this module (like a semester) and this movie presents numerous ethical issues. But WOW, it took me by surprise. In the movie, the son never says good bye because that is forever, he always says, "see you later." That was something Jessica and I did all the time too, and when I walked out of ER room where she was that was one of the last things I said to her.....

 
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July 10, 2008, 12:34 pm PDT

Losing my step-father then 5 months later my 2 brothers

I know this is suppose to be about losing a child, but there isnt one about losing your step father and siblings. On july 27th 2007 my step-father passed away due to liver diesease, then 5 months later we get a phone call from a family member saying, my two older brothers hit a transport and were pronounced dead at the scence. My two brothers passed away December 6th, 2007. No one knew what to do. My one brother had a 4 year old son who knows where his daddy is and if someone says something about his daddy, he gets very upset. People want me to go see a councilor, but really I can't take time to see one. my other brother left behind his fience and that girl was lost. we all were lost, still kind of are.
 
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July 13, 2008, 1:48 pm PDT

Coping with the Death of a Child

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I had a simliar experience, I was out Christmas shopping for family with a friend because I was in NO mood to go alone, We were at bestbuy and there was this gorgeous keyboard right there by the checkouts. That was the only thing Jessica wanted for Christmas that year! I LOST it... I had a melt down right there in front of everyone. There have been other times, like hearing her favorite Christmas carol, Silent Night. I used to sing that to her when she was a baby.  And it will continue to hit me that way as it will any parent that has lost a child. That is one of the many things that make's this journey such a trial.

Today is Dennis's second birthday! I can't beleive he is 2 already... time flies! We got him a little 10x13 pool, just deep enough for him because he LOVES the water. If there is water within 500 feet of him, he WILL find it. I have this picture of Dennis standing in a dog dish splashing in it like a child does a water puddle. TOO CUTE! He loves to play with the water hose, give him that and he is content for HOURS! We are going to celebrate his birhtday tomorrow cuz daddy works seconds, but has tomorrow off. My inlaws got him 5 yards of sand and he loves that as well. My side of the family will be celebrating at a later date.

Going back the crying thing... It is OK to cry in front of your other children!  Remember they are grieving too. They need to know it's ok to cry, it's ok to talk about Shawn, it's ok to miss him. They need to hear it, speak it, do it! So don't be afraid... let it happen! It is the most healing thing you can do for the children.

 

Hope you are doing well....

 

HUGS, Debra

 Hey, its me. Its been a while I know. I have been busy lately. We are about to loose everything we've got. My husband got injured on the job and is waiting for his workmans comp to kick in, and were not for sure when it will. I have been doing good though. We celebrated Shawns b-day on June 30th, it was a sad day but also a happy one. I was remembering everything that day and was suprised how much I can remember from 3 years ago. God I miss my baby and think of him every day. My son is still having a hard time dealing, he is blaming hisself, he says Shawn wouldn't have gotten sick if he would have stayed at his nanas' house and I tried to explain to him that no matter what, Shawn didn't die because of him and not to blame himself. He just don't understand. It hurts me to know that he feels that way. We have been doing therapy but it seems like it is'nt working. They don't even talk about his death. They just do projects and play. I told Austin if he wanted to stop the therapy that it was ok and I could find someone else to talk to because he wants to talk about it and he wants to share his brothers story. My mom went and had some shirts made with his picture on them, they are so pretty. When people see them they stop us and say

"hey wasn't that the baby on tv that needed the blood?" and we're like yeah and then they ask about him and I tell them his story. It usually makes people cry, but in the end they thank me for sharing his story with them and some tell me it has changed how they feel about giving blood, and promise to give regularly. Even though it may be late, give your little Dennis a b-day kiss for me. Thank u for the stories and keep em' coming!!!

 

Always in thought and prayer,

LUV, Misty Dawn 

 
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July 13, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

Coping with the Death of a Child

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I know this is suppose to be about losing a child, but there isnt one about losing your step father and siblings. On july 27th 2007 my step-father passed away due to liver diesease, then 5 months later we get a phone call from a family member saying, my two older brothers hit a transport and were pronounced dead at the scence. My two brothers passed away December 6th, 2007. No one knew what to do. My one brother had a 4 year old son who knows where his daddy is and if someone says something about his daddy, he gets very upset. People want me to go see a councilor, but really I can't take time to see one. my other brother left behind his fience and that girl was lost. we all were lost, still kind of are.

Hi my name is Misty, u can talk to me. It is ok that u came here. I will tell u this is as good as therapy, just talking about it is therapy. You can come here and people will talk to u and help u. I lost my two and a half year old son on Febuary 28th of this year and I have had a HARD time with it, I also have 5 other kids but only one is biologically mine. He died of Pneumonia and it was sudden. He got sick on Friday with a cough and went for visitation with his real father, when we picked him up on Sunday evening, he was running a fever and was wheezing. I took his straight to the hospital where they said it was just strep and sent him home. The next day his fever was 104.5 and he was lifeless, I took him back to the hospital wher they then sent him to The University of Kentucky Hospital in Lexington Kentucky. That was on Monday. By the next morning his heart had stopped and he was on Life support and an ecmo machine that gives u blood transfusions every hour. He passed away that Thursday. I didn't have alot of time to say goodbye but then I didn't want to, I told him I would see him in heaven and gave him my last kiss. He is better now and u have to think that also with your brothers and stepfather. They are better now and are not suffering anymore. They are free of this world and its troubles. But we still can't help but miss them and want them here with us. I think everyday of my little Shawn standing there saying, mommy be a good girl so u can come and see me in heaven, and that is what gets me through the days and nights. I have become an insomniac, and I want to sleep all day long. But like I said I can't because I also have 5 other kids to take care of. Hang in there, u will make it. Take care of the little one and remind him about his dad, he will eventually warm up to it and talk about him more. Let him know it is ok to talk about his dad and that it isn't a bad thing if u do. It is great therapy to talk to others about them and their life. One thing that Debra, (she is also on here) told me to do is to write a journal of everything u can remember abou them and keep it with u so u can look back on it and someday u can give it to your nephew so he too can share those memories. It would be a great thing to do, it has wiorked for me I know that. But you will laugh and cry the whole time u write and u will remember just like it was yesterday, almost as if they arn't even gone. Time heals but it still leaves scars. Remember them every day and u won't forget. I will pray for u and your family for healing and strength, and I will also remember the fiance, she too was part of the family, I'm sure. Just let her know u haven't forgot about her and remind her that u do care. But u can come here, I will talk to u.

 

 LUV, Misty Dawn

 
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July 15, 2008, 7:36 am PDT

aww......

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I am so sorry that you have lost your son so tragically! I lost my only child, at the time, to a car accident when she was 14 on November 8, 2003. I know the defastation you speak of.

 

First, you are still very early in your grief. You have come out of the numb stage and the pain is very real and runs deep through your soul. Be kind to yourself, it's ok that you feel like all you want to do is stay in bed. That is NORMAL! I went back to work just after 3 wks of losing my daughter. Looking back that was not the thing to do but I was going crazy staying home. It's good that you are able to get yourself out and to work. That is a step in the right direction.  I know how you feel when you say that you talk to your co-workers but inside you are screaming. That is ALL NORMAL! You are NOT crazy! Keep going to counseling, it will help you tremondously. If you don't like the counselor with ask to be put with a different one. Most often people make the mistake of thinking that the counseling is not doing them any good when it is really their feelings about the counselor.

 

You have got to start talking to your other children. They have had a loss too! They will start to resent you and Vic, not intentionally, but it could happen. They need their Mom just as much as YOU NEED THEM! Talk about how you feel, what you are going through. Let them IN!

 

The length of time it will take you to get through this journey is not something that can be measured. Everyone will go through grief at their own pace and deal with things differently. Your way is best for YOU, my way is best for me, and so on. There is NO time table for grief and if anyone tells you there is they are wrong. Losing a child is beyond comprehension unless you have been there. There is no other death that someone can lose that will affect them like that of a child. I wish I could tell you that it is going to be easy but it's not. Does it ever get easier? YES! Your bad days will get further apart and happen less often. You will be able to talk Vic and smile. There will come a day when you walk through your door and feel the sunshine on your face once again. I can promise that! But how soon that day comes depends on you. Be kind to your spirit, be gentle to your soul and don't try to rush things. It takes time.... time is the enemy and your friend here. The world is not going to stop no matter how loud you scream, and I have done that. I would get in my car and go for a ride and just scream at the top of lungs. I talk to my Jessica all the time. I share her with anyone that I can.

 

You may not think the Cymbalta is helping you, but how worse would you be if you weren't taking it? Keep taking it!! I went on Lexapro and Ambien (sleeping pills) after my daughter's accident and I know for a fact that without those I would have been way worse off. I can't tell you when you will stop feeling like hiding from the world. That is part of the journey that only you control. Our journey is affected by our beliefs, our personal experiences, how we were brought up....  Hang tight to your faith. Get a support system going.

Let family and friends help you in anyway possible. They want to help but just don't know how. Tell them! This is a journey you cannot travel alone. You will need the help of several people but they can't help if you dont let them!

 

I will keep you close to my heart and pray for you and your family.  Keep posting here!

 

HUGSDebra

This is so true.  I read this and balled like a baby.   I lost my daughter  5-29-2007  in a car accident.    At first I was completely shocked.  Like a cloud was over me protecting me from meltdowns.  Yes I am still very new to the tragedy  but  after the anniversary of her death I am just now dealing with the realism of it all.  She is gone.  I have a son who is 8 and we have been on an incredible journey together I am a single parent, and to be honest at times I do want to hide from the world.  He has been my only  inspiration.  I have to stay focused for him.  Unfortunately, just lately I realized that it would take meds to do so.  I don't cry everyday now like I used to 5-7 times daily.   I know it is hard for everyone who has lost a child but I have to tell you a quote that keeps me going   "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened."     My baby is at peace.     My heart and prayers go out to all who have experienced tragedies like these.    Support systems are wonderful and help tremendously.    Hugs to all!
 
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July 16, 2008, 12:33 pm PDT

You are an inspiration

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This is so true.  I read this and balled like a baby.   I lost my daughter  5-29-2007  in a car accident.    At first I was completely shocked.  Like a cloud was over me protecting me from meltdowns.  Yes I am still very new to the tragedy  but  after the anniversary of her death I am just now dealing with the realism of it all.  She is gone.  I have a son who is 8 and we have been on an incredible journey together I am a single parent, and to be honest at times I do want to hide from the world.  He has been my only  inspiration.  I have to stay focused for him.  Unfortunately, just lately I realized that it would take meds to do so.  I don't cry everyday now like I used to 5-7 times daily.   I know it is hard for everyone who has lost a child but I have to tell you a quote that keeps me going   "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened."     My baby is at peace.     My heart and prayers go out to all who have experienced tragedies like these.    Support systems are wonderful and help tremendously.    Hugs to all!

I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter! My Jessica was 14 too! Her cousin, 23 at the time, was bringing her home and made a turn in front of an oncoming car. My Jessi took the full hit. When I got to the scene, they were just loading her into the helicoptor so I was not able to see her or ride with her. By the time I got to the hospital she was gone. After I found out the full details, she was realy gone at the scene but they didn't pronounce her dead until she got to the hospital. I know you know how much that knocks you on your butt, literally. Those first few days I was in a haze, I can remember bits and pieces and I still get flashes every now and then of things I recall.

Dealing with the realism of the whole thing is a life long process when it comes to a child. I have said before, there is no death that can compare to that of a child. And if someone needs medication to help them, so be it. Does not make us weak, it only shows that we know our limits. I had someone tell me, just after 6 months of losing her, that I should be over it and move on.... I was livid! There is no time table for grief and it's more like a rollercoaster ride with the lows and highs we experience.

Bless your son! I can't begin to imagine what he is going through! I can tell that Mommy is making sure he is doing the best he can and watching over him. Being a single Mom is tough! I did it for 8 years with my daughter. I now have a two year old son and I tell him stories of her all the time and have pictures I show him.

Have you checked with your local hospice chapter? I did, and in my area they have a camp once a year specifically for family members that have lost a child. And anyone related to that child can attend. They break down activities according to age for the children, then they break up parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins...... into their own groups and have group counseling, group activites. I thought it was awesome for the kids especially, because they have someone their own age that feels like they do.

My Jessi was a basketball star. She lived and breathed basketball! Probably just like your daughter did soccor!

Your saying, "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened" is on the same page of my thinking. You know the song by Garth Brooks, "The Dance?" Say's it all!

Thank you for your post and hope to hear more from you!

 

HUGS~

Debra

 
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July 22, 2008, 6:21 am PDT

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of all of us today!

 

HUGS~ Debra

 
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July 22, 2008, 10:59 pm PDT

Grieving over our 3 babies and the babies we can't have...

So, I'm a mother of 3 babies of which we have lost. The first was born at 24 weeks due to preeclampsia and the other 2 were ectopics. I have been to fertility Dr's and my only choice at this point is IVF. Well, that's all good except the insurance companies will not pay for IVF or any fertility treatments. So not only are we grieving the babies already lost but now we are grieving the ones we will never have because the ins. companies don't find it medically necessary or important enough. I guess if one of them that has a say so in it their choices had fertility problems or had lost a child they would take a second look at it. It STINKS! I'm tired of hurting every day of my life b/c our dreams of being parents are not coming true b/c of money, the almighty $$$$$. What's the world coming to?

 
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July 22, 2008, 11:15 pm PDT

YOUR NOT ALONE...

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I just recently went into preterm labor at 20 wks.  A few weeks later I gave birth to my beautiful baby girl whom died at birth.  She was born on February 1, 2008.  After my loss it has been a struggle to carry on with my life.  I am currently on some antidepressants but they dont seem to be working.  I weep over my loss just about everyday.  I have been struggling with my emotions as I try to be around other children.  Its like I lose myself.  I also see a grievance counselor but she doesnt talk to me about my loss or my emotions and I dont have any friends or family to talk to either.  I really hope there is someone out there that can give me advice on what to do.  Please help me.  After all I am only 20 yrs old.

 

Thanks.

I know a lot of people will say things like they know how you feel or it was just meant to be. People just say things they have NO idea what they are talking about. I do know exactly how you feel though. I have lost 3 babies and actually gave birth to my 1st in Aug. 2005 and I still cry over her a few times a week. So saying that, I'm not going to tell you that it will all be ok and that you will get over it because you never will. It will get better over time though. You did lose a very special and big part of yourself, a part that you can never get back, but that part of us is with our babies and I wouldn't have it any other way. I encourage you to talk to anyone you can about your daughter, also read books there are some great ones out there on grief and loss. I don't know how you believe but my church and faith has helped me greatly. Hugs to you and wishes for strength to get through each and every day.

 

Keep smiling for your baby girl, I'm sure that's the way she'd want it!

 

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