Topic : Divorce Support

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:01:52 pm
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Over half of all marriages end in divorce, but that doesn't make it any less painful for those going through it. Discuss your experience here.

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September 14, 2005, 12:08 pm PDT

Seperation & my KIDS

 My husband decided 2 months ago that he was leaving us for his freedom and to be single. The problem is, he will NEVER be single, we have 3 small kids. He is having an affair and I do have proof of that. He hasn't officially moved out because of financial reasons but he has no intention of coming back to us. For awhile he slept on the couch the nights he decided to come home but now he doesn't even sleep here just comes to see the kids, do his laundry and get clean clothes. We've worked out a schedule for him to come see the kids twice during the week and once on the weekend so I get a break from the kids too. What I am concerned about is my kids and their emotional state. My 3 1/2 year old has been acting out with temper tantrums and mean words, throwing toys, hitting & pushing. My almost 2 year old twins seem to be ok for the most part but they do know something is wrong. Some times after their time with dad the whole next day they are whiny and really clingy to me. I can't leave the room and they are upset and chasing me. My 3 1/2 year old is having issues when I leave him with somebody else probably in fear that I will leave him like his dad has. He asks all the time why daddy doesn't live with us anymore. I tell him that he can call daddy at any time, but he will NOT talk to him on the phone. When dad gets here he is excited to see dad. When I brought up the situation to my husband he said he doesn't see that the kids are messed up in any way, they are fine when he's around. Well, I think they melt down because they fear that I will leave too. I don't know what to do for them, what to tell them or how to react when they do act up. It's emotionally hard on me dealing with the break-up let alone the kids and their emotions. I try so hard to give them extra love and care but it doesn't matter how much I tell them that daddy loves them, he needs to show them that through his actions and he is a good dad he just is all into himself right now and this much ooder woman. HELP!!!!
 
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September 14, 2005, 12:18 pm PDT

same story

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Wow--you just gave me chills!  My life is almost parallel to yours right now.  Just had our 11th anniversary this weekend.  My husband has just moved out and although he says he's trying to work on our marriage--I just got our cell phone bill and he's talking to this woman from work--almost every night.  I wonder as you do--does he want me to find out and get angry, each time I mention that obviously our marriage is over he gets angry with me and says that he's not ready to say that.  He's kept me from having friends too, so my life has been all about him for the past 15 years--now I don't know what to do without him.  I believe he has depression problems, but he would never admit to that.  I'm not sure which way to go--should I keep spending time with him on his terms and hope that he figures out that he wants our marriage or should I get angry and tell him to leave me alone until he figures this out.  I haven't told him that I know about the cell calls, I feel that if I do I then take away the one thing that gives me insite as to what he's doing.  What confuses me most is he will talk to her either right before or right after he talks to me.  He had told me once they were just friends from work, but with everything going on and him moving out, this "friendship" sure isn't helping us.  I would love to communicate more---how do we get in touch??
Ok. I am not alone. In reading both of your stories, I now know I am not alone.  My husband of 8 years has decided he wants to be single and have his freedom. He is having an affair and I found out the same way - cell phone. He talked to her for over 900 minutes in one month. I confronted him, he said it was a client and they are friends and have a lot in common. Each month i would get the new phone bill and confront him again. He finally wised up and got a 2nd phone that I didn't know about. On our FAMILY vacation with my parents and siblings, he was calling her and e-mailing her. When we got home he decided he was leaving us. We have 3 small children at home and I have many of the same fears. I don't want to be alone, will my kids want to be with him instead of me, what will I do finacially, I am a stay at home mom with 3 small kids. Daycare is outrageous and we were finacially strapped when we were together. He was sleeping on the couch but the last few weeks doesn't come home at all for the night except a couple times a week that we agreed upon to see the kids. As soon as they go to bed and I come home he leaves. 
 
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September 14, 2005, 6:05 pm PDT

what the heck?

My husband threatened to file for divorce tonight after I told him I was sick of his disappering on me and not spending anytime with our child. He then told me quite rudely to get out of his house. It was his chioce that I stayed at home and didn't help contribute money to the family; and all of the sudden this is his house? So should I pack up tomorrow and leave while he's at work or do I wait  to work this out? I am so confused and to make matters worse I'm expecting our second child. Please help me.  

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 STephanie  

 
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September 15, 2005, 12:20 pm PDT

Dear boafus...

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I have been happily married for 12 years and have three children. We have had our problems but none that we were not able to get past. Two weeks ago my wife told me here feelings have changed for me. My wife told my the problem was that I was always rude to her and I had to drink to be with her. She said this made her feel unwanted and she begain to hate herself. I know i sometimes say rude things and it is not what I say that is rude it is how they are said. I have had this problem for a long time and I do this to everyone. It is not intentional and I don't even mean to do it. I have explained this to her several times, but she says it was because she is not important enough to me for me to stop. I know I was drinking more than I should have and choose to do nothing about it. She did mention it a couple of times , but I became offended that she was accusing me of being an alcoholic. My drinking made her feel like I had to be drunk to be with or around her. This is entirely untrue. I love my wife more than anything and am trying everything I know to do to save our marriage. Also, to complicate things further she told me an ex-mutual friend had showed her some attention that she felt she was not getting from me which made her feel better about herself. Then she told me that from watching the Dr. Phil Show he has said that if you don't like the way something is do something about it and that is what she is doing. I told her I can understand that but I don't feel Dr. Phil meant to stop loving your husband or tear your family apart. The only answer my wife can give me is " I need time" and " I don't know". My wife can't tell me that she loves me but when I ask her she says she does but can't answer why she can not say it. When I ask her about what she means by time she can't answer that one either. Most the time the time she refers to needing to get away from me when she get aggravated talking to me about our problem. My children are aware of the problem and are upset at thier mother for not trying to fix this. They see me trying to win back the love of my life and then watch thier mother be cold and distant. My wife has talked to her sister about this and her sister has told me she doesn't know what is wrong with with wife and doesn't know why she is acting this way. I know this probally doesn't make since because I can't sleep, eat, or think anymore. I feel like I am losing everything that I have and am. If you need any clarifacation on anything please ask. I desperately need advice to fix my marriage. 

Do you feel you have a drinking problem?  How much and how often do you drink?  What if you ARE an alcoholic?  Are you ready to give up drinking?  If you KNOW you were drinking too much, why did you choose to ignore your wife's concerns?   

  

Are you prepared to go to counseling and/or Alcoholics Anonymous to save your marriage?  From where I'm sitting, that's about the only thing that MAY save it and that may not even work. 

  

I think one of two things is happening with your wife.  1) she is not being completely honest with you about her reasons for her unhappiness and by that I mean the level of her hurt regarding your rudeness or 2) she honestly doesn't know how she feels.  People do change and they do grow apart.  If she has grown apart, she can decide to grow back toward you, if she wants to. 

  

If you have been saying rude things and they are hurting your wife or perhaps even devastating her, regardless of your intent, the things you are saying DO HURT and DO take a toll.  Is it possible that you say these rude things when you are drunk?  If so, wouldn't NOT drinking help you to stop being so rude? 

  

My Ex used to say rude things to me (and often more than rude things) and he would excuse it away too.  He would even say he didn't mean it.  But his actions (i.e. his words) told me different.  He DID mean it and it ruined our marriage. 

  

I do not think you should put ANY pressure on your wife to remain or repair the relationship until she has a better handle of what SHE wants out of HER life.  You can not force someone to love you and if you try, you will only create MORE resentment.  You also should not manipulate someone into staying in a realtionship that is potentially harmful to THEM.  It would be selfish of you to ask/require her to work on something that is harming HER.  I mean, how UNCARING is that? 

  

I would suggest that you seek counseling with or without your wife because it takes TWO people to ruin a relationship.  She had her part.  You had yours.  The only part you can do anything about is your part.  If I were you, I would invite her to go with you and perhaps she can gain enough clarity to decide what is best for her and hopefully that will be what is best for BOTH of you and your marriage.  I also suggest that you take a good hard look in the mirror and honestly answer my first question to you. 

  

Take care, Q 

  

 
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September 15, 2005, 12:29 pm PDT

Hi Stephanie...

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My husband threatened to file for divorce tonight after I told him I was sick of his disappering on me and not spending anytime with our child. He then told me quite rudely to get out of his house. It was his chioce that I stayed at home and didn't help contribute money to the family; and all of the sudden this is his house? So should I pack up tomorrow and leave while he's at work or do I wait  to work this out? I am so confused and to make matters worse I'm expecting our second child. Please help me.  

 Thanks, 

 STephanie  

Because you have a child and are expecting, you owe to THEM to do EVERYTHING in your power to work out this issue. 

  

I say that fully knowing that you may have an uncommitted partner on her hands.  To me, that's just like saying you have no partner at all. 

  

But you HAVE to try. 

  

SO what I would do if that were my hubby, is find out where he goes when he disappears and more importantly WHY he feels the need to "disappear".  There are reasons for both and some of those reasons may point right back at the kind of partner you are.  The rest of the reasons will lie with him. 

  

Could it be that he feels pressure that you aren't satisfied with the kind of partner he is to you and it's pushing him away? 

  

Could it be that the home environment isn't a soft place to fall for him? 

  

Could it be that your focus is only the children and not him? 

  

Those could be some of the reason he disappear... what might be some others? 

  

I DO understand your frustration and I do think hubby is being fairly self-righteous and possessive when he calls y'all's home HIS.  But it takes TWO to ruin a relationship and you CAN get to the bottom of it. 

  

Counseling will help you do that quicker.   

  

Good luck!  Q 

  

  

 
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September 15, 2005, 1:57 pm PDT

ANYTHING?!?!

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I was willing to do anything and I love him so much.  I can't imagince my life without him.  there was no cheating or anything like that.  he just felt we were fighting too long and it was time for us to part.  we didn't go for help, though i wanted to.  he's just left and that's it.  says he's fallen out of love and can't get it back.  we have 2 sets of married friends that this has happened to and they fell bak in love and are stringer...i expressed this to my husband...and he knows them too...but he wouldn't try to work it out.  he left today.  i feel like i'm dying... 

is there any help for him to fall back in love? 

the big prob is that we will be 24 hours apart in different states...so unlike our friends, we will not be able to have dinner now and then or interact at all. 

his familiy supports the divorce thought they are marriage cousellors themselves.  if they supported marriage...maybe he would've at least tried.  i think they made it easy for him to quit. 

what can i do???? 

i still love him with ALL of my heart and i see no way of ending that feeling or the hurting to stop.  he left me here with no job (new area, we've been here 3 months), a house, and no friends.  no support system locally...they are all long distance, back where he is going.  i feel dropped off. 

  

what can i do???? 

thanks 

  

I love my hubby very much too.   

  

But I would not do ANYTHING. 

  

I would not commit a crime.  Nor would I give away my self, self-resepct, dignity or humanity. 

  

Personally, I think "falling in love" and "falling out of love' can be conscious choices.  I think your hubby is making the choice to end the relationship. 

  

Trouble is... you don't want it to end.   That really hurts. 

  

If you have moved away from family, support, friends, I suggest you MOVE BACK as soon as reasonably possible.   You need the support and comfort. 

  

In order to for you to move on you will need closure and the odds are, that you will get it one way or another.   

  

It is so sad to see one so willing to love just get used up and "dropped off" as you say (good words). 

  

If he really has no intention of worknig on the marriage, the best thing you can do is grieve the end of it.  Counseling can help you do that quicker. 

  

I am sorry for you pain.  Q 

 
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September 15, 2005, 2:16 pm PDT

More of the same!

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He means he wants to rekindle a physical relationship with me. He says he doesn't want to pursue the divorce, but he doesn't want to move back home either. He wants changes to be made. By changes, he means I need to change. As he sees all of my faults and none of his. What do I want....? Good question. I know what I don't want. I don't want to be demoted to concubine.

SO what you are saying is....  he wants all his "cake" and none of the responsibility, right?  Well that's exactly why he left, huh?  And how is that going to be good for you? 

  

Is he meeting you in the middle?  

  

Has he taken a hard look at how he has contributed to the demise of the relationship? 

  

Is he willing to be the partner YOU need?  To work at repairing what's broken? 

  

Or does he just want a good, convenient role in the sack??? 

  

Be careful of compromising too much, you will resent your self if you do. 

  

All those questions I asked about him are also directed at you (but you've already asked them of yourself, right?) 

  

It STILL takes TWO to ruin a relationship. 

 
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September 15, 2005, 6:29 pm PDT

Back again with problems...

I am not sure what to do.  I am in the process of getting a divorce, and I am 33 weeks pregnant now.  We parted on bad terms and things were a mess, then we started talking again and for the most part getting along, but that was only because he finally agreed that he needed to go to counseling and said he would do it, especially for his son (unborn) he seemed like he was really going to do this and things were going pretty good, but I should have known better than to believe his lies once again.  Now I have drawn the line, I am not giving him any chances again if he wanted them, he probably won't cause he could care less about me, but if he for some reason tried, I am done with it.  Problem is, if he does not get help, I refuse to give him our child alone, he cannot handle it...he was physically, emotionally/mentally, and verbally abusive and he has so many problems that he needs help for.  I am just scared that he will be able to take our child once he is born and not have to be supervised.  He is no where near getting the help he needs, he thinks it is me and that I have problems, but that is usually what they do, make the sane person feel insane!!  I don't know what to do or how to handle this.  I can't wait to be divorced and done with him, but he is still the father of my child but I wish he weren't, I know that is bad to say, but it is true.  I just wish I could be done with him forever and never see him again.  Does anyone know anything I can do to help get what I want from a custody hearing that we will have once the baby is born?  He is currently claiming he is going to get a lawyer and try to get full custody...he told me it was going to be all or nothing and thats it, so he is saying he will have him full time or nothing at all.  I am not afraid that he will get full custody, I know that will not happen, but I don't want him to have visitation alone, I am afraid for my childs well being and safety.  HELP ME!!!  Any advice would be helpful...thanks
 
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September 15, 2005, 9:46 pm PDT

Love doesnt hurt

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Coping is hard in divorce, but being single could be fun.  Basically you have been single for a year, but apparently you were hoping for a different outcome.  You can't unfortunately make him stay in the marriage if he chooses not to be in it,  and I don't think you would be happy in a loveless marriage.  As for you being Best Friends????  That is really up to you,  I would like to think for the sake of your daughters, that at least a cordial visit would be to their benefit.  He also might want you there to show his "Girlfriend" what he had before he meant her or maybe to make you jealous.  It is really hard to say since I have never meant him.  Do you think he has a motive to you being there? If it was me, I would have him pick up the girls when he is supposed to and get out yourself and do something fun.  Go out with a girlfriend or family.  I would not let him "Show Off" in front of me, if that is the case, just to prove that he could hurt me or use me.  Hope this helps, Inbetween 
if you are married and fighting everyday and he is gone all the time . Get out love doesn't Hurt both sides count. Men who really love women do not hurt them. Controlling men who have not grown up hurt women. The make threats, hit you say rotton thing to you  beat you down .  Figure out what type guy you are with and it will be easy to leave. or spend a life time being hurt. Its your choice. Save yourself by being truthful .with yourself . Hugs Grandmafuz
 
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September 16, 2005, 4:54 am PDT

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I am not sure what to do.  I am in the process of getting a divorce, and I am 33 weeks pregnant now.  We parted on bad terms and things were a mess, then we started talking again and for the most part getting along, but that was only because he finally agreed that he needed to go to counseling and said he would do it, especially for his son (unborn) he seemed like he was really going to do this and things were going pretty good, but I should have known better than to believe his lies once again.  Now I have drawn the line, I am not giving him any chances again if he wanted them, he probably won't cause he could care less about me, but if he for some reason tried, I am done with it.  Problem is, if he does not get help, I refuse to give him our child alone, he cannot handle it...he was physically, emotionally/mentally, and verbally abusive and he has so many problems that he needs help for.  I am just scared that he will be able to take our child once he is born and not have to be supervised.  He is no where near getting the help he needs, he thinks it is me and that I have problems, but that is usually what they do, make the sane person feel insane!!  I don't know what to do or how to handle this.  I can't wait to be divorced and done with him, but he is still the father of my child but I wish he weren't, I know that is bad to say, but it is true.  I just wish I could be done with him forever and never see him again.  Does anyone know anything I can do to help get what I want from a custody hearing that we will have once the baby is born?  He is currently claiming he is going to get a lawyer and try to get full custody...he told me it was going to be all or nothing and thats it, so he is saying he will have him full time or nothing at all.  I am not afraid that he will get full custody, I know that will not happen, but I don't want him to have visitation alone, I am afraid for my childs well being and safety.  HELP ME!!!  Any advice would be helpful...thanks
Q has posted some really good websites and books for reference (she mostly posted the info on the abuse board).  WWW.LEAVINGABUSE.COM and WWW.DIVORCENET.COM might be two good ones to start with.  Like Q says, get educated and make a plan!  Why are you afraid of leaving your son alone with his father?? Has he been physically abusive?  OOPS-GTG but I'l be back.................................................
 

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