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Over half of all marriages end in divorce, but that doesn't make it any less painful for those going through it. Discuss your experience here.

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March 13, 2007, 12:37 pm PDT

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I am 34 years old and the mother 3 great kids, 14 and 5.My middle son that would have been 9 has passed away.  I was married for almost 15 years and with him for 17 years years. He is my first. love. We are now Divorced. He tells me it's all my. I did leave him but it was for a good reason. He was very abusive. I thought it was over when he broke my arm but I did not go. what made me leave this time for good  is when he went after our son and hit on him. I feel so sad and alone. How do I get over this feeling. My heart is in the pit of my stomach. I hurt so bad. Now I ask myself, was it me? what did I do to make him hate me so? Now that we are not together he does not want to see the kids or talk to them or me. When he does, him and his friend  that he now lives with, call me names. The man that I thought that loved me and our kids has hurt us so much. Was I worng? Please help I feel so alone and sad.
Do not blame yourself.  This man has not right at all to physically harm you or your children.  Some big man; hitting on defenseless womena and children.  You didn't do anything to make him hate you; he has his own esteem problems and blames everything on you. How can he expect you to stay with him under these conditions.  It only harms your own self-worth and your own esteem.  You don't want someone like this as a role model for your children; thinking it is okay to physically abuse someone out of anger.  He needs to look within himself and see the deep mental/emotional problems he has.  Let that name-calling bounce off you and hold your head up high.  You are on the road to recorvery and a better decision you could not have made.  You will make it; it is always darkest before the dawn.  Write us anytime for support; we will always be here for you.  Good luck to you - mmarie
 
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March 13, 2007, 5:40 pm PDT

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You were 100% right!  You just saved your kids from being abused by their father.   

You've done nothing wrong here, he is the one with the problem and I congratulate you from removing you and your children from the abusive of this man.  Give yourself a pat on the back - you did good.

Now you need to take care of yourself and start to repair the damage and hurt that is deep within your soul.  Get into counseling to begin the process of healing..  He has ruined your inner core and you need to start working on healing yourself.   

thank you so much for your feedback. I just feel so sad and alone. Oh the feeling I feel inside me hurts so bad. I just want this feeling to go away. I cry so hard at night that my eyes look so bad by morning. I can't sleep or eat. It does help to talk about it and to know there is someone on here that will listen to me.
 
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March 13, 2007, 5:47 pm PDT

Thank you so much

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Do not blame yourself.  This man has not right at all to physically harm you or your children.  Some big man; hitting on defenseless womena and children.  You didn't do anything to make him hate you; he has his own esteem problems and blames everything on you. How can he expect you to stay with him under these conditions.  It only harms your own self-worth and your own esteem.  You don't want someone like this as a role model for your children; thinking it is okay to physically abuse someone out of anger.  He needs to look within himself and see the deep mental/emotional problems he has.  Let that name-calling bounce off you and hold your head up high.  You are on the road to recorvery and a better decision you could not have made.  You will make it; it is always darkest before the dawn.  Write us anytime for support; we will always be here for you.  Good luck to you - mmarie

It means a lot to know that someone has listened to me. Like I said to the other lady. I feel so sad and alone and do not know how to get this feeling to go away. I was with him for so long he is all I know. I was 18 when I first stated to see him and  by 19 I was married and having our first child and now I am 34 years old and never been alone. it hurts so bad. I know that it was not a good marrige and my kids do come first but like I said,

I am so said

 
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March 13, 2007, 7:18 pm PDT

We know

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It means a lot to know that someone has listened to me. Like I said to the other lady. I feel so sad and alone and do not know how to get this feeling to go away. I was with him for so long he is all I know. I was 18 when I first stated to see him and  by 19 I was married and having our first child and now I am 34 years old and never been alone. it hurts so bad. I know that it was not a good marrige and my kids do come first but like I said,

I am so said

We have been at the point we could not eat or sleep and cried and cried.  But one day you will wake up and there will be no more tears left to cry and you will start to feel more than just hollow inside.  I lost 35 lbs when I was upset as you are.  Have gained 10 of it back and each day looks brighter.  He has hurt you to the core and no one has the right to abuse you in that way.  Through those tears, know that you are on the road to emotional and spiritual recovery.  The sadness will be replaced with joy; you just need to get throught this part of it.  Write down your feelings in a jouranl; it helps get it out.  And we are here for you always.  Onward to the future; one full of blessings and real life and living.  mmarie
 
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March 14, 2007, 9:08 am PDT

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Here is my problem. Me and my wife have been married 7 yrs (I'm 28, she's 25).  During those 7 years we've had our ups&downs, mainly because we were so young and immature. But no matter how bad it got we always worked things out because we loved each other so much...until now. Now it looks to be over and it's just crushing me inside. My wife says that she's not happy in her life but she doesn't know if it has to do with her or our mariage. So instead on trying to figure that out she would rather divorce and see if that helps. Me on the other hand thinks that divorce should be the last resort and if she's unhappy we should find out why first and then try to work on that, not divorce and hope that our marriage was the problem.

 

I try to talk to her about her feelings but, quite frankly, she stinks at communication. When we talk about it I usually get a blank stare, a shoulder shrug, or her famous answer "I don't know" and that really frustrates me. We used to be so much in love and were best friends but it seems as though she's distancing herself more & more. When she does decide to talk she likes to mention things that she's unhappy with me about but they are small things that most marriages have, in my opinion. Here is a little list of some of the things that might cause our divorce cause she's unhappy with:

 

- She hates the fact that I don't work and I'm a stay at home dad. (to where I reply that I missed out so much on our first child that I want to make sure I have that with our youngest child. Me & my oldest child don't have a very good relationship but not because I don't try. I think it's mainly due to the fact that her & my wife lived with her parents for the first 3 years of her life. She saw me but she was always around her grandparents & mom and a bond was formed that I don't have. More on that see my post in stay-at-home-dads http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/1840 )

 

- I don't have a good relationship with her dad like she wants (to where I reply that I've tried and I would continue to try but it's a 2 way street. While I make the effort he also has to make an effort. That meant stop coming over every other day, stop trying to be in control of everything we do, and act like this house & this family is it's own SEPERATE family and give it that respect. I told her it was a clear indication of how bad it was when she bought a ne car and she freaked out to what her dad was going to do. All this when she's a grown woman, married, living in her own home, and being a registered nurse).

 

- How she can't just sit down & relax or take a hot bath (to which I replied, she does sit down and relax. She actually watches more TV than I do. And if she would rather take a hot bath and relax then stop watching TV, go upstairs, and take a bath. If she said thats what she was doing I'd make sure the kids don't bother her. I even tell her that she needs a hobby to where she can just unwind).

 

- How she feels that she never gets alone time. That I'm always here. (to which I reply, that she can have alone time all she wants. She just has to say so. She goes out with her friend every now & then. I also bring it up to her how ironic that a few years ago it was me who always felt like I never got alone time. That I would work and come home and always have to be with her. Thats why I always went to my friends house when I could  but she wanted me to stay home and be more of a family. That I should want to be with her & the kids.........so I changed cause she wanted me to. But now she is doing the EXACT SAME THING! Identical in everyway. She's seeing what I felt like and when I ask her why she's not singing the tune anymore of "why don't you stay home and be with me & the kids" she give her famous answer "I don't know". Right now I'm a stay at home dad and I don't get any alone time for myself, which is probably bad, but I sacrifice that because I enjoy being with my wife & kids. My wife was my best friend so whenever we did something together I felt as though I was going out with my friends).

 

It bugs her I won't always give her a massage when she wants one (to which I reply, I have given her lots of massages but yes I do admit that I don't always feel like giving one when she wants it. I usually say later or tomorrow. That makes her mad? I also tell her it's a 2 way street and it makes me mad that when I hurt and ask for one that night or something she always says "yea I'd like one too". It's like it's always about her. So if I get this right she wants me to give her a massage whenever she wants and when I want a massage I have to give her one as well??? I told her that yes, while we do massage each other the same night it's also nice to get a massage when someones hurting and not have to give one back right away. She understands that when she's hurting (cause I don't get one back) but she can't understand that when I'm hurting?

 

- It bugs her how I don't "have God in my life" (to which I reply, that yes I do have God in my life but I just don't express it the way she does. I've never liked the church scene and never will. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in God.  Other than going to her church on Sunday I have God in my life just like she does. She prays sometimes....so do I. Only thing I don't do is go to church and I find it hard to believe that God only loves those who sit in a building and sing 1 day a week. I must have missed that comandment. I thought it was more about choices & lifestyle. But she knew all thins when we were dating).

 

- It frustrates her when I don't want sex when she does. (to which I reply that she knows how to turn me on and if she's wanting that intimacy then do something to get me in the mood. It's the exact same thing she tells me to do. If I happen to be in the mood and she's not, she'll tell me to start kissing on her neck, kiss her ears, or start caressing her and get her in the mood.....it's the same thing I say that she can do to me but she doesn't feel that she should have to. She thinks I should just be ready to go all the time and thats not how I am. I mean yea I'm a man and I think about sex alot during the day but I'm not walking around "horny" all the time. I ask her that "you know when your horny and you can't have sex for some reason......if frustrates you doesn't it?" Now imagine if I was suppossed to be horny 24/7 and just waiting on the opportunity.....I would be bouncing off walls!). 

 

 

These are just some of the things (that I can remember) that when she does decide to talk about why she's unhappy, she comes up with. Most if not all of them to me, are things that most relationships go through. These aren't things that can't be worked on or compromised. I feel like she doesn't think a marriage requires work. Thats if theres any kind of problem then, boom, divorce time. It seems she has problem of really wanting to play the victim role in our relationship. It's always my fault or I caused this. Just like the above problems she states. She'd rather look at it as I'm not doing what she wants and I'm to blame.

 

I'll admit that I was no were near the type of husband I should've been in the beginning but she also had her moments of not being a good wife. We've both had affairs early on but decided to work it out because our love for each other. I changed my ways of partying all the time, hanging out at my friends house on the weekend, not cooking, not cleaning, not taking care of the kids, and not being a good husband to her. I worked on what I needed to to make this marriage work. I wish she would do the same.

 

I'm sorry for the long post. I'm new here and I just felt like I needed someone to talk to through this problem. Any advice (male or female) I'd be glad to accept it. I really am out of options.


 
 
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March 14, 2007, 7:06 pm PDT

Please help me, I am very confused

after 32 years of marriage, my husband spontaneously decided to leave and move back home to the Philippines  for good without discussing it first with me.  I was shocked and was hit hard when he told me that he is going back home for good.  He had a very good paying job as a contract computer programmer all these years. ' I also have a full time job and taking care of

other expenses in the house.  I don't like credit cards so I pay up my credit cards once I use them.  My husband told me that he is tired of working and paying bills.  Through the years, he was handling all our financials.  I trusted him that he was taking care of us.  Now I found out that we are in debt.  He does not want to work anymore.  Our home should have been paid for by now but he took 2 mortgage loans on it and he maxed out all credit cards of about $40K .  I asked him what he did to all the money and he told me that he put the money in the stock market.   He is not interested in living here anymore and he wants to sell our house to pay for all his debts that he created himself.  I refused to sell our home because of our family history in it and besides I still want to work, not ready to retire and go back home for nothing.   People back home wants to come to America to look for work.  He is doing the opposite.   I asked him about paying back his credit cards but he refused and he kept telling me that it will be paid once we sell our home.  So he left without paying his debts.  He is now back home for good and I found out the he still using the credit cards.  He is remodelling his mother's house back there cashing out from the credit cards that he took with him.  I am so afraid that I will be the one responsible for all his debts.  I want to get a divorce to put a stop on it but I love him so much to do it.  I don't know what else to do.  He might used up all the equity in my house and I would end up with nothing.  He is very selfish and only looking for his self-interest.  Please help me what to do.  I am having a hard time accepting that he is gone.  I am very scared.  I'm not used to being alone.  We have been together for 32 years and now he's gone and don't intend to come back. 

 
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March 15, 2007, 8:34 am PDT

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after 32 years of marriage, my husband spontaneously decided to leave and move back home to the Philippines  for good without discussing it first with me.  I was shocked and was hit hard when he told me that he is going back home for good.  He had a very good paying job as a contract computer programmer all these years. ' I also have a full time job and taking care of

other expenses in the house.  I don't like credit cards so I pay up my credit cards once I use them.  My husband told me that he is tired of working and paying bills.  Through the years, he was handling all our financials.  I trusted him that he was taking care of us.  Now I found out that we are in debt.  He does not want to work anymore.  Our home should have been paid for by now but he took 2 mortgage loans on it and he maxed out all credit cards of about $40K .  I asked him what he did to all the money and he told me that he put the money in the stock market.   He is not interested in living here anymore and he wants to sell our house to pay for all his debts that he created himself.  I refused to sell our home because of our family history in it and besides I still want to work, not ready to retire and go back home for nothing.   People back home wants to come to America to look for work.  He is doing the opposite.   I asked him about paying back his credit cards but he refused and he kept telling me that it will be paid once we sell our home.  So he left without paying his debts.  He is now back home for good and I found out the he still using the credit cards.  He is remodelling his mother's house back there cashing out from the credit cards that he took with him.  I am so afraid that I will be the one responsible for all his debts.  I want to get a divorce to put a stop on it but I love him so much to do it.  I don't know what else to do.  He might used up all the equity in my house and I would end up with nothing.  He is very selfish and only looking for his self-interest.  Please help me what to do.  I am having a hard time accepting that he is gone.  I am very scared.  I'm not used to being alone.  We have been together for 32 years and now he's gone and don't intend to come back. 

Wow: What a story? Your husband sounds like he is fed up and having a midlife crisis or something. You must run to an attorney and tell your story. You need big time legal advice.

If you are in a 50/50 state and someone files for divorce the state sees it as half of the assets for each person and half of the liabilities meaning debts. I see that you are in California. Find out if Calif. is a community property state or 50/50 state. If I were you and I am not I would get my name off of and cancel the credit cards that you have jointly with your husband. You need serious legal advice.

 
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March 15, 2007, 1:05 pm PDT

What about this?

Can someone at least shed some light on this? What do I do about affording a lawyer, etc.? Since I'm a stay-at-home-dad I don't save any money for myself. All the money we get goes to my wifes account and I pay bills from there. I'm scared because right now I have nothing to do anything with. Then comes the question about the house and such. Both are names are on it but what if the judge kicks me out because I don't have a job? I'll have lost everything and be left with nothing.

 

Have any of you ever been through this? If so what steps did you take?

 
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March 15, 2007, 5:45 pm PDT

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Can someone at least shed some light on this? What do I do about affording a lawyer, etc.? Since I'm a stay-at-home-dad I don't save any money for myself. All the money we get goes to my wifes account and I pay bills from there. I'm scared because right now I have nothing to do anything with. Then comes the question about the house and such. Both are names are on it but what if the judge kicks me out because I don't have a job? I'll have lost everything and be left with nothing.

 

Have any of you ever been through this? If so what steps did you take?

 it would be the same as if she were the stay at home mom and you were out working. Both your names on the house? 50/50 on the equity my man. As you are the childresn care taker, just as if it were her being the care taker, it would seem that it is her that leaves the house.

Just get on the phone calling lawyers, tell them the situation and ask how they will deal with you on this. First though try what you can to get some names of good Family Law lawyers. A.D.A.M, for men only lawyers, is a firm I think has a lot of offices. Google ADAM family law. See if there's one in your area. I know there is one in MI. If need be call them long distance and ask if they can refer you to anyone in your area.
 
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March 15, 2007, 5:49 pm PDT

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Here is my problem. Me and my wife have been married 7 yrs (I'm 28, she's 25).  During those 7 years we've had our ups&downs, mainly because we were so young and immature. But no matter how bad it got we always worked things out because we loved each other so much...until now. Now it looks to be over and it's just crushing me inside. My wife says that she's not happy in her life but she doesn't know if it has to do with her or our mariage. So instead on trying to figure that out she would rather divorce and see if that helps. Me on the other hand thinks that divorce should be the last resort and if she's unhappy we should find out why first and then try to work on that, not divorce and hope that our marriage was the problem.

 

I try to talk to her about her feelings but, quite frankly, she stinks at communication. When we talk about it I usually get a blank stare, a shoulder shrug, or her famous answer "I don't know" and that really frustrates me. We used to be so much in love and were best friends but it seems as though she's distancing herself more & more. When she does decide to talk she likes to mention things that she's unhappy with me about but they are small things that most marriages have, in my opinion. Here is a little list of some of the things that might cause our divorce cause she's unhappy with:

 

- She hates the fact that I don't work and I'm a stay at home dad. (to where I reply that I missed out so much on our first child that I want to make sure I have that with our youngest child. Me & my oldest child don't have a very good relationship but not because I don't try. I think it's mainly due to the fact that her & my wife lived with her parents for the first 3 years of her life. She saw me but she was always around her grandparents & mom and a bond was formed that I don't have. More on that see my post in stay-at-home-dads http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/1840 )

 

- I don't have a good relationship with her dad like she wants (to where I reply that I've tried and I would continue to try but it's a 2 way street. While I make the effort he also has to make an effort. That meant stop coming over every other day, stop trying to be in control of everything we do, and act like this house & this family is it's own SEPERATE family and give it that respect. I told her it was a clear indication of how bad it was when she bought a ne car and she freaked out to what her dad was going to do. All this when she's a grown woman, married, living in her own home, and being a registered nurse).

 

- How she can't just sit down & relax or take a hot bath (to which I replied, she does sit down and relax. She actually watches more TV than I do. And if she would rather take a hot bath and relax then stop watching TV, go upstairs, and take a bath. If she said thats what she was doing I'd make sure the kids don't bother her. I even tell her that she needs a hobby to where she can just unwind).

 

- How she feels that she never gets alone time. That I'm always here. (to which I reply, that she can have alone time all she wants. She just has to say so. She goes out with her friend every now & then. I also bring it up to her how ironic that a few years ago it was me who always felt like I never got alone time. That I would work and come home and always have to be with her. Thats why I always went to my friends house when I could  but she wanted me to stay home and be more of a family. That I should want to be with her & the kids.........so I changed cause she wanted me to. But now she is doing the EXACT SAME THING! Identical in everyway. She's seeing what I felt like and when I ask her why she's not singing the tune anymore of "why don't you stay home and be with me & the kids" she give her famous answer "I don't know". Right now I'm a stay at home dad and I don't get any alone time for myself, which is probably bad, but I sacrifice that because I enjoy being with my wife & kids. My wife was my best friend so whenever we did something together I felt as though I was going out with my friends).

 

It bugs her I won't always give her a massage when she wants one (to which I reply, I have given her lots of massages but yes I do admit that I don't always feel like giving one when she wants it. I usually say later or tomorrow. That makes her mad? I also tell her it's a 2 way street and it makes me mad that when I hurt and ask for one that night or something she always says "yea I'd like one too". It's like it's always about her. So if I get this right she wants me to give her a massage whenever she wants and when I want a massage I have to give her one as well??? I told her that yes, while we do massage each other the same night it's also nice to get a massage when someones hurting and not have to give one back right away. She understands that when she's hurting (cause I don't get one back) but she can't understand that when I'm hurting?

 

- It bugs her how I don't "have God in my life" (to which I reply, that yes I do have God in my life but I just don't express it the way she does. I've never liked the church scene and never will. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in God.  Other than going to her church on Sunday I have God in my life just like she does. She prays sometimes....so do I. Only thing I don't do is go to church and I find it hard to believe that God only loves those who sit in a building and sing 1 day a week. I must have missed that comandment. I thought it was more about choices & lifestyle. But she knew all thins when we were dating).

 

- It frustrates her when I don't want sex when she does. (to which I reply that she knows how to turn me on and if she's wanting that intimacy then do something to get me in the mood. It's the exact same thing she tells me to do. If I happen to be in the mood and she's not, she'll tell me to start kissing on her neck, kiss her ears, or start caressing her and get her in the mood.....it's the same thing I say that she can do to me but she doesn't feel that she should have to. She thinks I should just be ready to go all the time and thats not how I am. I mean yea I'm a man and I think about sex alot during the day but I'm not walking around "horny" all the time. I ask her that "you know when your horny and you can't have sex for some reason......if frustrates you doesn't it?" Now imagine if I was suppossed to be horny 24/7 and just waiting on the opportunity.....I would be bouncing off walls!). 

 

 

These are just some of the things (that I can remember) that when she does decide to talk about why she's unhappy, she comes up with. Most if not all of them to me, are things that most relationships go through. These aren't things that can't be worked on or compromised. I feel like she doesn't think a marriage requires work. Thats if theres any kind of problem then, boom, divorce time. It seems she has problem of really wanting to play the victim role in our relationship. It's always my fault or I caused this. Just like the above problems she states. She'd rather look at it as I'm not doing what she wants and I'm to blame.

 

I'll admit that I was no were near the type of husband I should've been in the beginning but she also had her moments of not being a good wife. We've both had affairs early on but decided to work it out because our love for each other. I changed my ways of partying all the time, hanging out at my friends house on the weekend, not cooking, not cleaning, not taking care of the kids, and not being a good husband to her. I worked on what I needed to to make this marriage work. I wish she would do the same.

 

I'm sorry for the long post. I'm new here and I just felt like I needed someone to talk to through this problem. Any advice (male or female) I'd be glad to accept it. I really am out of options.


 
Is she really happy with you being a stay-at-home dad?  Nothing wrong with that; my brother did the same thing, but he and hiis wife agreed to it.  Also, you are having problems that many people go through in marriage.  Maybe you both should try to give to the other person and not make demands for them to do something; when both people are giving to each other, then there is harmony.  Why doesn't her dad care for you so much?  Does he influence her?  I think if you two truly care for each other and your family, you need to sit down and really get to the bottom of the problems; not just shrug them off; that only delays communication and builds a brick wall.  Try reading some of the books, like Dr. Phils Relationship Rescue and Self Matters; they are excellent in bringing back selfworth and evaluation and healing any relationship.  Good luck 
 
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