Topic : Divorce Support

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April 6, 2007, 9:36 am PDT

NEEDS ADVICE

My husband job takes him away for more than half the year.  I have recently found out he has been using drugs (again)  He has put me through a lot during our marriage Well anyway he is coming home in three days and I am going to have a good sit down talk with him about being a good role model for our boys and if he doesn't shape up he is going to have to ship out.  I want to be prepared for the talk and not get all emotional and crazy so I want to have my speech prepared so any adive on how I should approach him and what do I say hope yall can help.

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April 7, 2007, 7:51 pm PDT

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This is like the 3rd or 4th post I have left and have received some good feedback for that thank you.  My wife left me right before christmas and we still barely talk.  It is driving me nuts because I want to work things out so bad and she want's nothing to do with me.  My heart breaks everytime i even think about her.  The problem for me is time, im getting ready to do a deployment and just got back from being at sea for while, which knowing I was comming home to no one made it almost unbearable.  I don't know how I am going to make a deployment in this state.  I talked to her recently and she said she was talking to a lawyer.  I asked if she filed any paper work and she said no but that doesnt mean its not comming soon.  I am really strugling with the rejection i am receiving from her and have played the cat and mouse game since she left.  I no longer am pursuing her which i am told will help things out, I just can;t stop thinking about her going out, or not wearing her ring, or seriously going to a lawyer to file for divorce.  We havn't tried any counseling and rarely talk.  I feel as if the dam's about to break and im gonna be stuck underneath it.  I miss her so much and don't feel her mind will change anytime soon.  I want to be with her, and am willing to try anything.  Any advice would be great.

 

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April 8, 2007, 3:49 pm PDT

i can relate

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This is like the 3rd or 4th post I have left and have received some good feedback for that thank you.  My wife left me right before christmas and we still barely talk.  It is driving me nuts because I want to work things out so bad and she want's nothing to do with me.  My heart breaks everytime i even think about her.  The problem for me is time, im getting ready to do a deployment and just got back from being at sea for while, which knowing I was comming home to no one made it almost unbearable.  I don't know how I am going to make a deployment in this state.  I talked to her recently and she said she was talking to a lawyer.  I asked if she filed any paper work and she said no but that doesnt mean its not comming soon.  I am really strugling with the rejection i am receiving from her and have played the cat and mouse game since she left.  I no longer am pursuing her which i am told will help things out, I just can;t stop thinking about her going out, or not wearing her ring, or seriously going to a lawyer to file for divorce.  We havn't tried any counseling and rarely talk.  I feel as if the dam's about to break and im gonna be stuck underneath it.  I miss her so much and don't feel her mind will change anytime soon.  I want to be with her, and am willing to try anything.  Any advice would be great.

 

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i am sorry for what your going through, i am in the same position with my husband. the one thing i have found helpful is talking to my marriage counsilor. i have friends and family but some of those people tell me to "Get over it" or "just move on" - easier said than done. those who aren't in this position really have no idea how awful it feels. i pray alot also and try to keep in mind that God knows what is best for me, even if it is not what i want, but that is also easier said than done.
 
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April 8, 2007, 8:37 pm PDT

iam going it now

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You say that your ex will not admit to a mistake and that there will be no reconciliation. I don't know your specifics, and would probably not understand even if I did. To me it sounds as though you are asking someone to tell you what you already know, move on. Perhaps this is asking you to be a little selfish, but it may be time. For your children and for yourself.

I am a firm believer that we replace one habit with another. You say that what is happining is wrong, then replace it. Find a new passion and move on. Easier said than done, and requires infinite soul searching, but it's well worth it.

I will also include that I am still doing a lot of searching in my own life. New habits can be fun and rewarding (scary at times too), if properly thought out.



my name is helen and live in australia, MY husband and i have been serapated now for 2 and a half weeks and i still find it really hard to cop.Because there are 3 kids out of this marriage.He doesnt want to see them because he ai angry with me. i have found some one else but we have only talked on the net.i have known this person since i was 6 years old and we both love each other a lot. but want to talk it slowly. because iam caming out of a bad marriage.We know each other so well we should have been together a long time ago.It is funny how things in your life change.Because neither of us new we liked the other.Until a few weeks ago.That one of the reasons i asked my husband to leave the family home. Plus he used to yell and scream at the kids all the time and know one was happy.
 
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April 9, 2007, 10:03 am PDT

Willing to try anything?

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This is like the 3rd or 4th post I have left and have received some good feedback for that thank you.  My wife left me right before christmas and we still barely talk.  It is driving me nuts because I want to work things out so bad and she want's nothing to do with me.  My heart breaks everytime i even think about her.  The problem for me is time, im getting ready to do a deployment and just got back from being at sea for while, which knowing I was comming home to no one made it almost unbearable.  I don't know how I am going to make a deployment in this state.  I talked to her recently and she said she was talking to a lawyer.  I asked if she filed any paper work and she said no but that doesnt mean its not comming soon.  I am really strugling with the rejection i am receiving from her and have played the cat and mouse game since she left.  I no longer am pursuing her which i am told will help things out, I just can;t stop thinking about her going out, or not wearing her ring, or seriously going to a lawyer to file for divorce.  We havn't tried any counseling and rarely talk.  I feel as if the dam's about to break and im gonna be stuck underneath it.  I miss her so much and don't feel her mind will change anytime soon.  I want to be with her, and am willing to try anything.  Any advice would be great.

 

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 I read your back posts.  It really sounds like your wife is going to divorce you, except for one thing- she hasn't filed yet.  Which could mean several different things. She's saving money to pay for it, or waiting to see what you do tops the list of things I assume.  But these are just assumptions and speculation, the fact is that she hasn't done so yet, which means you still have a chance.
May I ask why you haven't tried counseling and why you stopped trying to talk with her? Who gave you the advice to "back off" and leave her alone?  Granted, she may not want to see you alone as these types of meetings dissolve to fighting which gets you nowhere, but how is no communication going to solve the problem?  What if she's been waiting to hear that you are actively trying to change your ways instead of just biding your time waiting for her to come back?
She's been gone since before Christmas, and the most resounding message I got from all of your posts was that you are hurting and that you want this settled before you leave on deployment.  You admit some mistakes, but you want this cleaned up and fixed on your time-table. Do you think she cares whether you're leaving or not?
I understand your sentiments, but you have known her for 6 years. I'm not trying to say this is all your fault. Obviously you both have problems communicating and she has 6 years of resentments built up that she should have confronted you about much earlier.
If you are serious about your declaration of being willing to try anything, and back up your apologies for being verbally abusive and controlling (being right all the time is a form of control), and wanting to get her back, I can make some suggestions.
Write her a letter. I would also leave her a message on the phone, but give her something she can hold and refer to more than once.  Be completely honest about the abuse and how very sorry you are about it. Be thourough in recounting all of what you remember so she knows that you are not just giving lip service.
Mention nothing about how she should have told you you were being an ass, or that she shouldn't internalize her emotions, this will come off as an excuse on your part for your behavior.
 There is no excuse except that you were acting like an ass.  Also, acknowledge that alcoholism and alcohol abuse are just labels. Buying into an alternative label that "isn't as bad" as alcoholism is just masking the fact that you DO have a problem with the stuff.  Maybe you don't have to quit entirely and can learn to severely limit intake, but you must acknowledge that you have made some bad mistakes while under the influence, so when you drink, you are saying "I don't care if I become a jerk, I'm going to drink anyway."
This IS what it feels like to those that are at the receiving end of your drunken behavior. You either "get it" or you don't.
Explain all of this, plus how you felt when your wife miscarried. If you were devastated, she needs to know that.  We all have different ways of dealing with our emotions, and if she internalizes, she will recognize this same behavior on your part in regards to what happened IF what you write is genuinely sincere. If you were not genuinely invested in a child, even kind of relieved, admit this to yourself and word this part of the letter differently.  If you were not truly devastated, acknowledge to her that you now understand how important this child was to her and how your behavior hurt her at the time.  The key is total honesty and total lack of ego in this letter.  Show her that you are willing to put aside your own ego and concerns and really try to understand her. 
Now, here's the kicker.  Apologize for not doing something constructive like counseling sooner, and if she will try to wait till you are back from deployment you will get some. Individual, couples, you name it. If she wants to only see you in the presence of a counselor, so be it, you will do that.
But please, give you another chance. (And be absolutely willing to go to counseling. For instance, if you get back and she miraculously lets you off the hook, insist that you both get it anyway for your communication problems.) Then tell her that you don't mind if she lets her parents or anybody else read the letter, if she needs validation from others of your sincerity, be your guest. Be willing to talk with these others if she wants mediators.
By writing all of this, she will know that you took time and effort, and it may cause her to pause.
Or maybe like you suspect, she is done with you and anything you do now is too little too late. But what can it hurt, unless you are not really willing to do everything and anything?
Good luck to you.
 
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April 9, 2007, 11:12 am PDT

"lonely"

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This is like the 3rd or 4th post I have left and have received some good feedback for that thank you.  My wife left me right before christmas and we still barely talk.  It is driving me nuts because I want to work things out so bad and she want's nothing to do with me.  My heart breaks everytime i even think about her.  The problem for me is time, im getting ready to do a deployment and just got back from being at sea for while, which knowing I was comming home to no one made it almost unbearable.  I don't know how I am going to make a deployment in this state.  I talked to her recently and she said she was talking to a lawyer.  I asked if she filed any paper work and she said no but that doesnt mean its not comming soon.  I am really strugling with the rejection i am receiving from her and have played the cat and mouse game since she left.  I no longer am pursuing her which i am told will help things out, I just can;t stop thinking about her going out, or not wearing her ring, or seriously going to a lawyer to file for divorce.  We havn't tried any counseling and rarely talk.  I feel as if the dam's about to break and im gonna be stuck underneath it.  I miss her so much and don't feel her mind will change anytime soon.  I want to be with her, and am willing to try anything.  Any advice would be great.

 

Lonely.......

It sounds like your wife isn’t interested in making this marriage healthy and happy, and you can’t do it alone. I know that this is very sad and depressing for you, and I urge you to seek counseling for yourself ASAP. You describe the way that you are feeling like “as if the dam’s about the break and I’m gonna be stuck underneath it…..” which leads me to believe you are feeling very depressed about this situation. Your feelings are very normal for a person who is losing a relationship that was very meaningful at one point.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to believe your wife when she tells you she is speaking with lawyers, etc., and that she wants a divorce. She isn’t kidding around, she’s serious. There is probably a part of you that is hoping she will wake up tomorrow and change her mind; but the reality is that is NOT going to happen. Again, I urge you to seek professional counseling- it is very sad that you feel you are “coming home to no one,” but a professional therapist can help you realize that coming home to yourself isn’t so bad. You are a good, decent person who deserves to have peace and happiness in life, and you will find that- but you have to have time to heal from this break up. I wish you well.

 
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April 9, 2007, 12:34 pm PDT

Custody

I decided to separate from my husband about 3 months ago, we have been living together ever since - the time has come up...I am getting relocated with my company that I work for, however it's 3 hours away.  We have an 8 year old and a 3 year old. My concern is, my husband can't move to the same city because he makes good money where he's at, I'm looking for custody advice, my husband wants to see his kids more then just on the weekends but I'm not sure how else to do it.  He says if all three of us leave he's not sure what he'll do, I would like to hear from anybody who may have experience with this and any helpful suggestions.
 
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April 9, 2007, 1:47 pm PDT

Thanks

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 I read your back posts.  It really sounds like your wife is going to divorce you, except for one thing- she hasn't filed yet.  Which could mean several different things. She's saving money to pay for it, or waiting to see what you do tops the list of things I assume.  But these are just assumptions and speculation, the fact is that she hasn't done so yet, which means you still have a chance.
May I ask why you haven't tried counseling and why you stopped trying to talk with her? Who gave you the advice to "back off" and leave her alone?  Granted, she may not want to see you alone as these types of meetings dissolve to fighting which gets you nowhere, but how is no communication going to solve the problem?  What if she's been waiting to hear that you are actively trying to change your ways instead of just biding your time waiting for her to come back?
She's been gone since before Christmas, and the most resounding message I got from all of your posts was that you are hurting and that you want this settled before you leave on deployment.  You admit some mistakes, but you want this cleaned up and fixed on your time-table. Do you think she cares whether you're leaving or not?
I understand your sentiments, but you have known her for 6 years. I'm not trying to say this is all your fault. Obviously you both have problems communicating and she has 6 years of resentments built up that she should have confronted you about much earlier.
If you are serious about your declaration of being willing to try anything, and back up your apologies for being verbally abusive and controlling (being right all the time is a form of control), and wanting to get her back, I can make some suggestions.
Write her a letter. I would also leave her a message on the phone, but give her something she can hold and refer to more than once.  Be completely honest about the abuse and how very sorry you are about it. Be thourough in recounting all of what you remember so she knows that you are not just giving lip service.
Mention nothing about how she should have told you you were being an ass, or that she shouldn't internalize her emotions, this will come off as an excuse on your part for your behavior.
 There is no excuse except that you were acting like an ass.  Also, acknowledge that alcoholism and alcohol abuse are just labels. Buying into an alternative label that "isn't as bad" as alcoholism is just masking the fact that you DO have a problem with the stuff.  Maybe you don't have to quit entirely and can learn to severely limit intake, but you must acknowledge that you have made some bad mistakes while under the influence, so when you drink, you are saying "I don't care if I become a jerk, I'm going to drink anyway."
This IS what it feels like to those that are at the receiving end of your drunken behavior. You either "get it" or you don't.
Explain all of this, plus how you felt when your wife miscarried. If you were devastated, she needs to know that.  We all have different ways of dealing with our emotions, and if she internalizes, she will recognize this same behavior on your part in regards to what happened IF what you write is genuinely sincere. If you were not genuinely invested in a child, even kind of relieved, admit this to yourself and word this part of the letter differently.  If you were not truly devastated, acknowledge to her that you now understand how important this child was to her and how your behavior hurt her at the time.  The key is total honesty and total lack of ego in this letter.  Show her that you are willing to put aside your own ego and concerns and really try to understand her. 
Now, here's the kicker.  Apologize for not doing something constructive like counseling sooner, and if she will try to wait till you are back from deployment you will get some. Individual, couples, you name it. If she wants to only see you in the presence of a counselor, so be it, you will do that.
But please, give you another chance. (And be absolutely willing to go to counseling. For instance, if you get back and she miraculously lets you off the hook, insist that you both get it anyway for your communication problems.) Then tell her that you don't mind if she lets her parents or anybody else read the letter, if she needs validation from others of your sincerity, be your guest. Be willing to talk with these others if she wants mediators.
By writing all of this, she will know that you took time and effort, and it may cause her to pause.
Or maybe like you suspect, she is done with you and anything you do now is too little too late. But what can it hurt, unless you are not really willing to do everything and anything?
Good luck to you.
I will start this the best way that I can.  I have reached new levels in my life since my wife left.  I have taken a hard look at the person I was and the person I want to be.  I now know that I don't know it all.  No matter how macho or cool i think i am I don't know everything.  I was a "right-fighter" no matter what the argument or who's fault it was I could figure out a way to be right....at the cost of hurting my wife's feelings.  I didnt even recognize this until long after things happened.  I have written my wife many letters expressing my deepest desire to work on things all of which I get no response from her.  I did however talk to her this weekend and things sounded as if they were going south fast.  She has not filed for divorce yet, so there is still a small chance but I believe that she is acting way to soon and will follow through if something doesnt change fast.  I am totally willing to try counselling and have sought counseling from church and from the military, I have also asked my estranged wife to come to counseling as well, of which each time she denies me.  I am willing to do anything and everything possible to reconcile, If after we have i don't know read all the books, sought family counseling, sought religious counseling, turned over every stone possible and things still arn't getting any better then I will feel ok with getting a divorce, because I know that we tried everything possible not to do it.  Right now we talked divorce right out the door.  I believe it's way to hasty and a decision both of us may regret for the rest of our lives.  I have limited my alcohol intake and will continue too, i have even written a "mission statement" on what I want my marriage to be.  I wrote this statement on Easter after praying to God to tell me what to do.  I was watching the movie Philadelphia on TNT and in the middle of it I felt something urge me to write.  I did and I am impressed with it.  I am going to show the letter to her parents first to get their opinion of it, and maybe change some things here and there but I feel that the end result is actually really good.  I have found a new perspective on life and have also been working out more, all of which make me feel better personnaly.  I thank you for your advice and I will try my hardest to not let my marriage end without exausting all available resources.  Wish me luck!
 
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April 9, 2007, 2:01 pm PDT

I DO wish you luck

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I will start this the best way that I can.  I have reached new levels in my life since my wife left.  I have taken a hard look at the person I was and the person I want to be.  I now know that I don't know it all.  No matter how macho or cool i think i am I don't know everything.  I was a "right-fighter" no matter what the argument or who's fault it was I could figure out a way to be right....at the cost of hurting my wife's feelings.  I didnt even recognize this until long after things happened.  I have written my wife many letters expressing my deepest desire to work on things all of which I get no response from her.  I did however talk to her this weekend and things sounded as if they were going south fast.  She has not filed for divorce yet, so there is still a small chance but I believe that she is acting way to soon and will follow through if something doesnt change fast.  I am totally willing to try counselling and have sought counseling from church and from the military, I have also asked my estranged wife to come to counseling as well, of which each time she denies me.  I am willing to do anything and everything possible to reconcile, If after we have i don't know read all the books, sought family counseling, sought religious counseling, turned over every stone possible and things still arn't getting any better then I will feel ok with getting a divorce, because I know that we tried everything possible not to do it.  Right now we talked divorce right out the door.  I believe it's way to hasty and a decision both of us may regret for the rest of our lives.  I have limited my alcohol intake and will continue too, i have even written a "mission statement" on what I want my marriage to be.  I wrote this statement on Easter after praying to God to tell me what to do.  I was watching the movie Philadelphia on TNT and in the middle of it I felt something urge me to write.  I did and I am impressed with it.  I am going to show the letter to her parents first to get their opinion of it, and maybe change some things here and there but I feel that the end result is actually really good.  I have found a new perspective on life and have also been working out more, all of which make me feel better personnaly.  I thank you for your advice and I will try my hardest to not let my marriage end without exausting all available resources.  Wish me luck!
 I hope it works out for you, but if it doesn't, rest assured that you did try, and that you learned a valuable lesson.
Tally ho!
 
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April 9, 2007, 7:02 pm PDT

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After 16 years being together 9 years married and two children, I "apparently" did something which annoyed him and now he is asking for a divorce. When I try to talk to him he gets so mean and nasty and says things to me which really hurts. I have supported him thru many years and many painful fights and honestly what he got mad at me for was not that serious. This leads me to believe that this is about something else. He says there is noone else but at this time I believe he will say anything. He has changed so much and I dont know how to talk to him anymore. He says the reason why he is so angry and mad is because of me "I make him like that". I dont know what to do anymore, one hand I want to make it better but he does not and the other hand I dont know how to get past all the things he has said. I am trying to keep it together for my kids, but I dont know what to do anymore.

 

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