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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:01:52 pm
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Over half of all marriages end in divorce, but that doesn't make it any less painful for those going through it. Discuss your experience here.

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October 1, 2005, 10:58 am PDT

child support

my ex husband is order to pay child support and now he is claiming the my daughter isn't his and i just want him to pay or give up his rights she only a year old and he talks bad about her she is only a baby and i am remarried now and he has been more than dad to her than her own dad and she  does even know who he is he has spend any money on her and hasn't seen her since she was 2 months old and dr.phil i really need help to figure out this problem and i either want him to figure out if he wants her or give up his rights so  would you please help me. thank you 

  

 
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October 2, 2005, 11:34 am PDT

Good Therapist

Im looking for a marriage threapist in my area. Someone who Dr Phil would recommend. I live in Vancouver, BC Canada.
 
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October 3, 2005, 1:26 pm PDT

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Five years ago my husband's attitude and behavior changed dramatically after a lengthy business trip requiring several weeks away from me and our children.  No, he did not have an affair (his sex drive decreased gradually over these years), he simply had a taste of freedom and loved it.  He rarely ever travelled on business before this.  We recently separated after he refused to seek counseling either as a couple or on his own.  During our 23 year marriage, we rarely argued and never fought.  He says he no longer loves me and feels he's missing out on something by being tied to me, yet still tries to "share" his travels, social schedule, etc. with me.  I discourage this lately.  He is still a sloppy dresser and looks unkempt so he obviously isn't trying to impress another woman.  He has grown a mustache and goatee thing.  After 10 weeks apart, my life is finally coming together and I doubt I would take him back, but I haven't shut the door on that option just yet.  A part of me still loves him.  There is no other woman involved - he just wants the freedom to do whatever he wants (golf, roller skating, partying, skiing, etc.) whenever he wants.  (He did all these things before but not with my approval.) He no longer has to feel guilty about leaving me at home while he pursues his interests and has to answer to no one now.  He still supports us financially and sees our daughter (13) fairly often.  Our son (he's 19) could care less about his dad.  I have lost a lot of respect for my husband, but over time I am making a new life for myself.  I recently got a part-time job I really like and enjoy the company of some wonderful friends.  My husband has no friends he can talk to, only 3 meddling sisters who encouraged him to leave me if he was unhappy.  His two other siblings absolutely disapprove of his behavior and have told him so.  Is there anyone else who has experienced this with their hubby?  Is there any hope he might come to his senses?  I don't intend to grow old alone, but don't want to give up on a 28 year relationship and then regret it.  Apparently many men do not feel THEY have to honour their wedding vows these days.  I never imagined my husband could be so selfish as to sacrifice everyone else's happiness for his own.  People we know simply cannot believe we have separated because we had such a wonderful marriage.  They also can't believe that he could ever do such a thing to us.  I'd love to hear from other wives who've survived this ordeal. 
I am in the same boat and don't agree with Dr. Phil's thoughts.  Selfish is my husband's middle name too.  After 21 years of marriage, he has this tremendous personality shift from a family man to a single life 'I want to be alone and do my thing' attitude.  No reasons why except that he is confused.  We tried marriage counseling and the counselor dismissed him on the basis that he wasn't even trying to rectify things.  He then filed for divorce and I am proceeding accordingly but now he doesn't know what he wants.  He just turned 70 and I am beginning to believe there is a latent crisis of men who do this when they age.  He has chronic illnesses but seems not to consider that in his actions.  It sure would be nice for us victims of this to be able to understand why husbands do this late in life.  Are they trying to recapture their youth?  Thoughts welcome
 
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October 4, 2005, 8:01 am PDT

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 Hello,

I am at my wit's end.  My wife and seperated about 37 days ago because I was being very selfish and not spending any time with her.  We've been married 2 years and together for almost 5.  I'll try to break it down without writing a novel.

Throughout my life I've been a fairly solitary person, and I've had a couple of extremely painful and bad experiences in the past with women cheating on me.  Then I met my wife.  My wife is the most beautiful and patient woman I've ever met, and she loved me, flaws and all, and I her.  Because of my inability to really get closure on my past, we've had many splits in our relationship but we always managed to get back together and work things out.

During our 2 years of marriage, we've had our shares of problems as well, but all in all, I felt we were going along as normal, learning how to deal with issues that couples go through.  I'll be blatantly honest, 6 months after our marriage, I left and stayed at a friends place for 2 weeks after a particularly bad argument.  I was scared that she was going to leave me and angry from the battle, so I made a stupid mistake and left.  2 weeks later I returned and I vowed that I would never do that again because it was an extremely bad way to deal with situations, it was damaging to my wife and our relationship and she deserved a man who worked within our marriage instead of a boy who ran away.

Since then, I've sunk all of my time playing games (I'm a gamer, please don't hate me), but I always felt somewhat bothered by it.  I would constantly ask my wife if I was not spending enough time with her, but she would always say things like "well, just come hang out with me sometimes and it's fine", so I would do that.  Eventually, this led to extreme trouble, but she continued to placate me.  On the day before she left, I had set aside the whole day to hang out with her, and she went out with a friend.  She came home late in the evening with friends outside and we got into a massive fight because I felt (wrongly) that I had been left behind.  Shouting and humiliation ensued, in front of other people and she never came home.  The next day she came home, packed some bags and left.

Now I'll be clear and honest again, I realize now that I was causing all the problems in our relationship.  I realize now that I was damaging our relationship, not placing my wife and our needs first, and neither of us were communicating clearly.  I understand that I was the main source of the problems between us.  Since she has left I have been working diligently with self-help books (including Dr. Phil's 'Relationship Rescue'), attending therapy and seriously trying to modify my attitude and my lifestyle.  I no longer play any games on the computer and now that I understand the massive amount of isolation and harm I was causing I've been desperately working towards becoming a much better person so that it doesn't happen anymore.  You may be asking yourself why I waited until after the seperation to start these processes; all I can say is that I believed my wife when she said things were fine.  It was stupid and naive; I know that now.  I should've been paying much more attention to what was being said between the lines.

Now my wife and I haven't spoken for 16 days.  Last night she did not attend therapy (but she never said she would come) and I am at a loss.  I have no right to ask for a 2nd chance from my wife.  We both made mistakes though, and I'm scared that she's not willing to see that I've made a conscious and real effort to change myself to be a better person and a good husband.  I don't know how to approach my wife, or contact her.  I'm not even sure I should.  I feel very hurt that she's out, living life like she's single and just ignoring me and our relationship.  My friends say that she's just not ready to deal with it and she will soon, but every day I feel more ignored and unworthy.  Not to mention she's probably hanging out with a bunch of people who are cheering her on because they only know her side of the story.  I feel my wife still loves me, and I know I love her.  I fear that she is going to divorce simply out of stubborness.

I understand that I made lots of mistakes and caused a lot of pain.  Condemn me if you feel you must, but please also realize that I am only human (and a stupid guy).  It was all unintentional and the moment I learned what I was doing, I've taken many steps to prevent it and learn how to not do it in the future.  I do not know what to do, I do not want to lose my wife.  I've tried so hard and I don't want to give up but I feel like she's giving up on me.  I'm not sure what else to say right now, so I'll stop here.

 - Ryan
 
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October 4, 2005, 8:17 am PDT

What I think...

Quote From: wierzb

I am in the same boat and don't agree with Dr. Phil's thoughts.  Selfish is my husband's middle name too.  After 21 years of marriage, he has this tremendous personality shift from a family man to a single life 'I want to be alone and do my thing' attitude.  No reasons why except that he is confused.  We tried marriage counseling and the counselor dismissed him on the basis that he wasn't even trying to rectify things.  He then filed for divorce and I am proceeding accordingly but now he doesn't know what he wants.  He just turned 70 and I am beginning to believe there is a latent crisis of men who do this when they age.  He has chronic illnesses but seems not to consider that in his actions.  It sure would be nice for us victims of this to be able to understand why husbands do this late in life.  Are they trying to recapture their youth?  Thoughts welcome
 I think many men, and women too, feel that time is running out. They feel that there are stones unturned and they have regrets. I think this is the cause of so many "mid-life" crises. Even the most loving, responsible people can fall prey to this.  As long as the spouse is not hunting for a new mate, try to be understanding and supportive.  You may even have a few adventures together again.
 
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October 4, 2005, 8:32 am PDT

You have to prove it to her...

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 Hello,

I am at my wit's end.  My wife and seperated about 37 days ago because I was being very selfish and not spending any time with her.  We've been married 2 years and together for almost 5.  I'll try to break it down without writing a novel.

Throughout my life I've been a fairly solitary person, and I've had a couple of extremely painful and bad experiences in the past with women cheating on me.  Then I met my wife.  My wife is the most beautiful and patient woman I've ever met, and she loved me, flaws and all, and I her.  Because of my inability to really get closure on my past, we've had many splits in our relationship but we always managed to get back together and work things out.

During our 2 years of marriage, we've had our shares of problems as well, but all in all, I felt we were going along as normal, learning how to deal with issues that couples go through.  I'll be blatantly honest, 6 months after our marriage, I left and stayed at a friends place for 2 weeks after a particularly bad argument.  I was scared that she was going to leave me and angry from the battle, so I made a stupid mistake and left.  2 weeks later I returned and I vowed that I would never do that again because it was an extremely bad way to deal with situations, it was damaging to my wife and our relationship and she deserved a man who worked within our marriage instead of a boy who ran away.

Since then, I've sunk all of my time playing games (I'm a gamer, please don't hate me), but I always felt somewhat bothered by it.  I would constantly ask my wife if I was not spending enough time with her, but she would always say things like "well, just come hang out with me sometimes and it's fine", so I would do that.  Eventually, this led to extreme trouble, but she continued to placate me.  On the day before she left, I had set aside the whole day to hang out with her, and she went out with a friend.  She came home late in the evening with friends outside and we got into a massive fight because I felt (wrongly) that I had been left behind.  Shouting and humiliation ensued, in front of other people and she never came home.  The next day she came home, packed some bags and left.

Now I'll be clear and honest again, I realize now that I was causing all the problems in our relationship.  I realize now that I was damaging our relationship, not placing my wife and our needs first, and neither of us were communicating clearly.  I understand that I was the main source of the problems between us.  Since she has left I have been working diligently with self-help books (including Dr. Phil's 'Relationship Rescue'), attending therapy and seriously trying to modify my attitude and my lifestyle.  I no longer play any games on the computer and now that I understand the massive amount of isolation and harm I was causing I've been desperately working towards becoming a much better person so that it doesn't happen anymore.  You may be asking yourself why I waited until after the seperation to start these processes; all I can say is that I believed my wife when she said things were fine.  It was stupid and naive; I know that now.  I should've been paying much more attention to what was being said between the lines.

Now my wife and I haven't spoken for 16 days.  Last night she did not attend therapy (but she never said she would come) and I am at a loss.  I have no right to ask for a 2nd chance from my wife.  We both made mistakes though, and I'm scared that she's not willing to see that I've made a conscious and real effort to change myself to be a better person and a good husband.  I don't know how to approach my wife, or contact her.  I'm not even sure I should.  I feel very hurt that she's out, living life like she's single and just ignoring me and our relationship.  My friends say that she's just not ready to deal with it and she will soon, but every day I feel more ignored and unworthy.  Not to mention she's probably hanging out with a bunch of people who are cheering her on because they only know her side of the story.  I feel my wife still loves me, and I know I love her.  I fear that she is going to divorce simply out of stubborness.

I understand that I made lots of mistakes and caused a lot of pain.  Condemn me if you feel you must, but please also realize that I am only human (and a stupid guy).  It was all unintentional and the moment I learned what I was doing, I've taken many steps to prevent it and learn how to not do it in the future.  I do not know what to do, I do not want to lose my wife.  I've tried so hard and I don't want to give up but I feel like she's giving up on me.  I'm not sure what else to say right now, so I'll stop here.

 - Ryan
 You two have been together for almost 5 years, but have been separated for 37 days. Even if she doesn't go to therapy sessions, you keep going. If she still loves you, and I would bet she does, the fact that you stuck with it, even without her, will speak volumes. It will prove to her that you are serious about change, and not doing it to placate her or get her back. If you can get her to at least hold off on any divorce decisions for awhile, consider it a battle won in the war.
You do realize that excessive gaming is an escape just like eating, alcoholism, and other addictions? I wish you all the best in your efforts.
 
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October 4, 2005, 8:43 am PDT

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 You two have been together for almost 5 years, but have been separated for 37 days. Even if she doesn't go to therapy sessions, you keep going. If she still loves you, and I would bet she does, the fact that you stuck with it, even without her, will speak volumes. It will prove to her that you are serious about change, and not doing it to placate her or get her back. If you can get her to at least hold off on any divorce decisions for awhile, consider it a battle won in the war.
You do realize that excessive gaming is an escape just like eating, alcoholism, and other addictions? I wish you all the best in your efforts.
 I have realized that gaming was being used a tool to escape, and thus the moment my wife left me, I shut off my personal computer and haven't used it since.  In fact, I've removed it from my place entirely.  Just looking at it sickens me.  Thank you for kind words, I want to continue and I don't plan to give up.
 
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October 4, 2005, 4:17 pm PDT

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 You two have been together for almost 5 years, but have been separated for 37 days. Even if she doesn't go to therapy sessions, you keep going. If she still loves you, and I would bet she does, the fact that you stuck with it, even without her, will speak volumes. It will prove to her that you are serious about change, and not doing it to placate her or get her back. If you can get her to at least hold off on any divorce decisions for awhile, consider it a battle won in the war.
You do realize that excessive gaming is an escape just like eating, alcoholism, and other addictions? I wish you all the best in your efforts.
 I guess the parts that really concern me are that if we're not communicating, how can she see the changes that I'm making?  37 days, 16 with no communication have felt like an eternity to me.  Faith is not something I was raised with and due to my past, which I am working hard on putting behind me, is really wearing me down.  I'm afraid any day she'll have found a new man to 'replace' me with.

I don't plan on stopping anything that I am doing, and I'm trying to improve my spirit and my attitude.

 - Ryan
 
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October 4, 2005, 11:15 pm PDT

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I believe in prayer.  I DO NOT believe in being stupid.  Get legal counsel now.

 

I hope others will have the answer you are looking for.

I feel your pain and I too believe in prayer. Get down on your knees 50 times a day if you have to. But you now have to start moving on. Get some legal counsel. Stay busy and be there for your children. They are hurting too.  Exercise is great! You have got to make yourself strong now. Get a new hair do. Change the decorations in your home. Get excited about doing something. Just stay active. You deserve to be loved! 

  

Don't count on him coming back. If he did, you would never be able to trust him again. You would always be wondering & watching. I have been there! I don't know how men do it or where they put their pain. but somehow they seem to remove it. I will pray for you and your children. 

 
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October 4, 2005, 11:41 pm PDT

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Hi to all...have been on web site but under another name! Some things have changed sense I was i here last in my life. I'm going through a Divorce after 24 years together and 21 years of marriage. I'm not going to say it was all his fault but will say he wasnt willing to deal with his faults like he should have! We both over the years hurt one another and in the course of doing so we hurt our children. Our son just turned 13 this month and he is having it the Hardest! He is not doing good at school and his father has moved his female friend into our home. Our son is not really ok with this but he is trying to except it at the same time. I have talked with him about me dating again can tell he is not really takeing to the idea of mom being with someone else but I think in time he will adjust! My problem is that the kids dad is not being an adult about all this and have to addmit at the begining of our seperation I didnt handle it as good as I know I should have (human feelings took over) and I'm not saying it was ok for to do so. I can how ever say that I have learned and now for a while have tried to be the better person (audlt) in this matter! We can no longer talk with our harsh words being said to me. I dont when the Divorce will be over with here we have a lot of assests to resolve before that can happen...I just want to beable to talk with him about our son in a way that he will not call me names or him talk ugly about me to our son...any ideas on how I can work on this? 
You have got to get ahold of your husband and talk to him about the concerns you have about your son. Or you could have your attorney do it. But someone has to be the responsible parent in this situation. Why would you want to be dating? You have a job ahead of you raising your son. Why bring more baggage in? Get yourself & your son stable before going into another relationship.
 
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