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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:01:52 pm
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Over half of all marriages end in divorce, but that doesn't make it any less painful for those going through it. Discuss your experience here.

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January 25, 2008, 1:10 pm PST

Go to therapy

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Where to start, I have been married for 22yrs and yes I can say they all haven't been grt. But the last 5 yrs have been the pits. My wife has completely pulled away from me, and to my knowledge I have not done anything to make her do this. I thought it was our enviroment so we moved to a bigger house because it is what she wanted. She was still distant towards me. I have never abused her in any way shape or form.  They say opposites attract and we are opposites but did work for us. By pulling away from me I mean, she does not even want to be in the same room when we are in the house together, she will find a reason to start a fight, she will make a decsion without consulting me with something that has to do with OUR life and our sex life, well thats a joke we don't have a sex life to be honest with yopu we have sex in the last 5 yrs about ten time and it is always feels like pity  sex. We have not had sex now for 15 months and belive I have try everything, she always comes up with some reason she can't and none of them are any good, but I will not force it on her. And with no sex for that long of a time and I haven't gone outside my marriage to get any. It now has got to the point that I can't find a reason to come home from work,for what to be ignored and have to take care of the house work like cook and clean not saying she doesn't do some of it but most of the time she isjust laying around or is on the computer. When she does want to spend a evening out with me it is to go to corner bar and play the poker machines and that itself is not good because ther goes at least $200 down the drain. And then complain about money for the month. Yes I have told her how I feel and she gets very defensive and start a fight,so Itry to talk to her nothing is changing. She feels there isn't a problem ,she will not get  marriage help. The only thing left for me to do is to move out, But again that is hard ,I don't want to feel like a failure in this marriage. some one please help me

Before you move out I urge you to get counseling on your own.  It is a hard decision to make even based on your circumstances and it helps to have a non biased person help you make a decision ,get  a plan and then transition you through the process.  22 years is certainly a long time to be with somebody and to live another year or even another day in a loveless marriage would be a waste.  And who knows, maybe with you going to counseling, she may decide to jump in at some point.

 

My first thought while reading your post - is it possible that she is having an affair?  That certainly would explain her physical and emotional distance as well as her time spent on the computer.

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:55 pm PST

?ready for divorce?

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It doesn't seem like you guys are ready for a divorce just yet for a few reasons.  First of all, have you even tried marriage counseling yet or counseling with a member of the clergy to air your feelings in a controlled environment and to get some constructive feedback on how to fix this marriage?  If not, then you need to do so.

You two need to do everything and anything to try and salvage this marriage before you split up, basically leave no stones unturned.  You have to earn your way out of a marriage, you two haven't even tried to fix it yet.   Seek therapy, read relationship books, go to marital seminars etc....  I think once you tell him of your thoughts and feelings, that you are considering splitting up - he may actually want to try to fix this marriage.  Does he even know how you feel and your thoughts about the future of this marriage?

The other reason why I think you are not ready is because you are unsure and that you still love him.  You may not like him but you still love him.  You still have too many unresolved emotions and until you can walk out that door with no anger, hurt, guilt or questions - you're not ready to divorce yet.  You want his love and attention, you want him to be more responsible for his finances and family - you don't want a divorce, you just want to be loved and feel special.

 

Give therapy a chance and talk to him about how you feel.  If he is willing to salvage this marriage then start working on it.  If in 6 months or so you both can honestly say that you tried and things still aren't working, then revisit the divorce issue again.      You mention his drinking, is this an issue in your marriage as well?

Well, no drinking is not an issue in the marriage. Which I am very thankful for. I know that he needs to have time to himself. He has 8 other siblings. All very close. He tends to spend all his time with his siblings and friends. I have told him that I am tired of being alone. That I am angry at him for not putting me first. He would often say to me...."you're my baby", And so I finally said:"I'm your baby when: when there is no hunting to be done, when there's noone elses car to fix, when you want a pieace of a<<. "It struck a nerve. But I just feel like he should "get " it. He doesn't. I have read every book in the library. The only thing we haven't tried is counseling. He outright refuses. I take that as him not wanting to fix it. What we are doing is not working for me. I actually am waiting on getting some insurance, and then try to go to counseling myself. If he won't go, I want to make sure that it is not me keeping us from getting where we need be. I really want to fix it. I don't know why I feel like it is beyond that. Maybe it has to do with him constantly letting me down. I feel like he will let me down like he always has in the past. Like it will get too hard for him, and he will just let it go. I don't know. I really appreciate your advice though. I will take it into heed. Thank you soooooo much for your reply.
 
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January 27, 2008, 1:54 pm PST

i'm in the same boat

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Five years ago my husband's attitude and behavior changed dramatically after a lengthy business trip requiring several weeks away from me and our children.  No, he did not have an affair (his sex drive decreased gradually over these years), he simply had a taste of freedom and loved it.  He rarely ever travelled on business before this.  We recently separated after he refused to seek counseling either as a couple or on his own.  During our 23 year marriage, we rarely argued and never fought.  He says he no longer loves me and feels he's missing out on something by being tied to me, yet still tries to "share" his travels, social schedule, etc. with me.  I discourage this lately.  He is still a sloppy dresser and looks unkempt so he obviously isn't trying to impress another woman.  He has grown a mustache and goatee thing.  After 10 weeks apart, my life is finally coming together and I doubt I would take him back, but I haven't shut the door on that option just yet.  A part of me still loves him.  There is no other woman involved - he just wants the freedom to do whatever he wants (golf, roller skating, partying, skiing, etc.) whenever he wants.  (He did all these things before but not with my approval.) He no longer has to feel guilty about leaving me at home while he pursues his interests and has to answer to no one now.  He still supports us financially and sees our daughter (13) fairly often.  Our son (he's 19) could care less about his dad.  I have lost a lot of respect for my husband, but over time I am making a new life for myself.  I recently got a part-time job I really like and enjoy the company of some wonderful friends.  My husband has no friends he can talk to, only 3 meddling sisters who encouraged him to leave me if he was unhappy.  His two other siblings absolutely disapprove of his behavior and have told him so.  Is there anyone else who has experienced this with their hubby?  Is there any hope he might come to his senses?  I don't intend to grow old alone, but don't want to give up on a 28 year relationship and then regret it.  Apparently many men do not feel THEY have to honour their wedding vows these days.  I never imagined my husband could be so selfish as to sacrifice everyone else's happiness for his own.  People we know simply cannot believe we have separated because we had such a wonderful marriage.  They also can't believe that he could ever do such a thing to us.  I'd love to hear from other wives who've survived this ordeal. 
I can't believe how similar our stories are.  I've been married 25 years and my husband is comfortable in his live, I'm not.  I want dialog, love, sex, compasion, understanding, support.  I get none of these.  I want to leave but I must first secure that my last child (a girl) gets into the college that she wants and he still helps to pay.  I can't crush her dreams because I am unhappy.  I have waited 10 years for him to wake up I can wait 8 months.  I have tried counceling 3 times and the counceler can only get a grunt for an answer.  He thinks that if he does the dishes, laundry that it will be all better. Although we haven't had sex in 4 years  I haven't  slept with him in our bed in 4 months and he doesn't even want to know why.  Since I have made the decision to leave I have been happier.  I now see a light at the end of the tunnel.  What do you think?  Any suggestions or comments?
 
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January 27, 2008, 2:10 pm PST

knows how you feel

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Before you move out I urge you to get counseling on your own.  It is a hard decision to make even based on your circumstances and it helps to have a non biased person help you make a decision ,get  a plan and then transition you through the process.  22 years is certainly a long time to be with somebody and to live another year or even another day in a loveless marriage would be a waste.  And who knows, maybe with you going to counseling, she may decide to jump in at some point.

 

My first thought while reading your post - is it possible that she is having an affair?  That certainly would explain her physical and emotional distance as well as her time spent on the computer.

Your wife might have a depression problem.  To many days go by and not a compassionate conversation.  Try to romance her and show her how special she is.  This will make her feel good about her self and your relationship.  If this doesn't work go to the doctor with her to support her and talk about depression with him/her.  I too went thru this after my third child was born and my husband didn't know how to show support so he would tell me to stop it and then he would leave the room.  I just wanted to know that he would be there for me.  Not by saying anything but by just holding me and sitting with me.  Goodluck.
 
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January 27, 2008, 11:55 pm PST

Help me save my marriage

After being together for 6 years, married for 4, one 2 year old and 4 trips overseas in support of the war effort I became lost in my work and my desire to obtain financial freedom.  I took my wife for granted for a long time.  Now that she is on her way out and I finally see what i should have seen long ago.  It seems that it is too little too late though.  She is very depressed and does not like herself at all.  She seems convinced that the only thing left to do is to go and find herself.  I fully support her need to go do so but i am worried that she is going to decide her life is better off without me being her husband.  While i want nothing but happiness for her i want to be the one to provide it.  What do i do?  Thanks.
 
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January 29, 2008, 10:07 am PST

I agree

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Before you move out I urge you to get counseling on your own.  It is a hard decision to make even based on your circumstances and it helps to have a non biased person help you make a decision ,get  a plan and then transition you through the process.  22 years is certainly a long time to be with somebody and to live another year or even another day in a loveless marriage would be a waste.  And who knows, maybe with you going to counseling, she may decide to jump in at some point.

 

My first thought while reading your post - is it possible that she is having an affair?  That certainly would explain her physical and emotional distance as well as her time spent on the computer.

 I agree you should not move out. I suggest counseling on your own also if she does not want to go. Also try again by letting her know you really need to talk with her about a few things.

I was married for 25 years and it is over.  And the longer that I look at things some things just pop right out and you go to yourself how the heck did I not see that. And the one thing that I hear you saying about the computer and her being distant to you are huge signs that just maybe she is having an affair. (could be a on line one) Or there is something else going on. Maybe she is depressed And I would also check the computer also if she has password etc that you do not have access too and she has a problem with you having them I would start asking some big questions or checking a few things on the computer. The thing is always go with your gut. She in her own way is letting you know something is up but she just has not put it into words,

 

Take it from someone who has been there. And my x husband is one of those people you would not think ever would be having an affair or using the computer in a way he should not be. One of his things was to just pretend with me everything was ok.

 

Make sure you are as calm with her as you can be. Eventually the truth does come out of everyone.

 
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January 30, 2008, 5:15 pm PST

When is it time to go?

 When do you know if it is time to call it quits?  I've been married for almost 4yrs now and it has been full of  ups and downs, we've been seperated before and had cheating issues, he left the 1st time when he thought he found something better and we split, and he felt the need to sleep with my so-called best friend when I was around and they could have been cought. He always promises to change and says he is sorry and wants to make things better ect ect,  and he will be great for about a week and then back to normal. we both work full time and have 2 children (we each had 1 b4 marriage), he dose not help around the house at all with anything inside or out,  he is still paying childsupport to his ex when he has custody and isint doing anything about it and that puts us in a hudge financial strain,I am even looking for a 2nd job to make up that diffrenece because we have another person to take care of now,  I have given up so much to be with him and I am always having to sacrafice someway because he is in the military . I am the one who makes sure everything gets done around the house, the kids are taken care of , bills are paid ect. he wanted to do consuling and re-new our vows and  it never happend. I feel that he knows what he needs to say and when things cool down he is in the clear again. He comes home form work and parks it on the couch.

I am so frustrated and tired of all this, I feel that I  would be better off  just me and my daughter. I feel that I have had to give up everything and be the one to forgive and forget about things and for what ? I get nothing in return except someone in my house that brings home a paycheck and sits on my couch.  He knows how pissed of all of the above issues make me and he dosn't do anything to change it. Is it really past repair or is there someway to fix this. I do belive in the vows I took and would do anything I could and I have considering what has already happend but there is a point where you just can't turn back

I need advice... thanks

 
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January 30, 2008, 6:00 pm PST

Get into therapy

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 When do you know if it is time to call it quits?  I've been married for almost 4yrs now and it has been full of  ups and downs, we've been seperated before and had cheating issues, he left the 1st time when he thought he found something better and we split, and he felt the need to sleep with my so-called best friend when I was around and they could have been cought. He always promises to change and says he is sorry and wants to make things better ect ect,  and he will be great for about a week and then back to normal. we both work full time and have 2 children (we each had 1 b4 marriage), he dose not help around the house at all with anything inside or out,  he is still paying childsupport to his ex when he has custody and isint doing anything about it and that puts us in a hudge financial strain,I am even looking for a 2nd job to make up that diffrenece because we have another person to take care of now,  I have given up so much to be with him and I am always having to sacrafice someway because he is in the military . I am the one who makes sure everything gets done around the house, the kids are taken care of , bills are paid ect. he wanted to do consuling and re-new our vows and  it never happend. I feel that he knows what he needs to say and when things cool down he is in the clear again. He comes home form work and parks it on the couch.

I am so frustrated and tired of all this, I feel that I  would be better off  just me and my daughter. I feel that I have had to give up everything and be the one to forgive and forget about things and for what ? I get nothing in return except someone in my house that brings home a paycheck and sits on my couch.  He knows how pissed of all of the above issues make me and he dosn't do anything to change it. Is it really past repair or is there someway to fix this. I do belive in the vows I took and would do anything I could and I have considering what has already happend but there is a point where you just can't turn back

I need advice... thanks

I absolutely think that there is a point, a defining moment  in which people can say to themselves, I'm done and it's over.   But I also believe that neither one of you have even tried to "fix" this marriage yet, to see if it is salvageable or even worth saving.  You should be taking the necessary steps first, leaving no stones unturned ie: marriage counseling, seminars, relationship books - so that you can look yourself and your child in the eyes years from now and say I gave it my best shot but it didn't work.  Not all of us are capable of fixing these things ourselves or able to take a hard look at ourselves and admit changes are necessary.

Marriage is hard work and adding infidelity to the mix is overwhelming.  I would ask him to join you in marriage counseling.  If he doesn't want to go, then you go alone.  Speak to a professional who can help you either get this marriage back on track or how to separate as adults.  You don't want to second guess yourself years from now so make sure this is what you want.  He may not be worth your time and energy in the long run but a least give it a fighting chance.   Put a mental timeline on the relationship - 6 months or so, if nothing changes and you still have these same feelings then do what is best for you and your child.

 
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February 1, 2008, 2:11 pm PST

seriously?

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My husband and I have been married for 2 1/2 years.  We are both over 40 years of age.  During our dating relationship he had a problem keeping his hands off other women (even while I was in his presence).  I even caught him in a bar with friends and his hands up a woman's blouse.  This finally ended and things were going well so we married.  2 years ago (6 months after we married) he started traveling and only came home everyother weekend.  While traveling he began going out with his co-workers (so I'm told) for dinner each evening and would not call me.  This went on for 1 year.  His comment was it just took so long for them to have their dinner.  I later found out he was having liquid dinners and getting drunk.  We began having major differences at that time.  I expressed how I felt about not being thought about enough to even receive a phone call.  The job soon ended and I tried to express to him that we can't go through the same things again.  He received another job out of state and left me to sell our home and join him later.  Two days after being in the new state he began the same thing.  I moved 1 month after he did because it was beginning to appear that he wasn't going to his room at the Inn at night.  Last week on his birthday he got drunk and told me if I didn't become more passionate he would divorce me. 

 

I think it is time for a divorce.  I do love him very much.  He seems to think his behaviors and actions are no big deal and that I should not take them seriously.  Please, someone tell me if you also think I am taking the behaviors and actions too seriously.

What...are you kidding me?  I only read to the second line and had to ask "she really didn't marry this guy did she?" Then I read further and to answer your question "You seem to think his behaviors and actions are no big deal and you don't take his actions seriously.  Why love someone that much when the love is not returned.  Get out now and work on your self.  Become  confident and self  assured and you will find the best guy who will love you for who you are and what the both of you can bring to a union.  If you work on your self then when the time is right that special man will come to you and love you without strings.  Good luck!!!!
 
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February 1, 2008, 11:48 pm PST

Divorce

 Hey guys its sd1..the one from back in october,who was struggling with thoughts of divorce.Well I filed on Tue. I went back to school and just could not continue with the way things were going.I feel soooo relieved and I feel bad at the same time.My husband of 15 yrs after 30 or 45 days will be  my childrens dad not my husband.I cant say that i am not nervous that would be a lie I have to change my whole life style my children (3 of the 4)  will have to go to the public school  and that scares me to death because all they have ever known is home school or Christian Im trying to look at things in a good light .
 my out look has changed i am a go getter that has always been there (just covered upfor a good 15yrs )....he thinks that  we will get back together im not so sure. if we do it will take a very LONG time!!!!!I want to work on sd1.I hope im not encouraging the wrong thing here.I just havent felt this way in years.I do feel a little sorry for him..you know im the one who has to find a place to live in a good school area not him but that is ok with me...Im a Happy girl right now. Is this normal?could some of you vets (on divorce) impart wisdom here?

Hope this is not too long just wanted to tell you especially the ones who talked with me back in oct chris,and others what had happened...Well gotta go study Books are calling??!!!
 
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