Topic : Divorce Support

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:01:52 pm
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Over half of all marriages end in divorce, but that doesn't make it any less painful for those going through it. Discuss your experience here.


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June 16, 2008, 3:41 pm PDT

Divorce Support

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My wife and I are just separated, with the intention of getting a divorce (we have to be separated for 1 full year before divorce here in Canada).  Although I'm the one initiating the separation and divorce, my wife seems okay with it and isn't resisting the idea, which I'm very sad about.  The worst part about it is that we have 1-year-old twin sons who will now grow up with divorced parents, and I absolutely hate that.  I know they'll survive, but I still feel very guilty about it and I think I'll be carrying that around with me (and anger towards her for her role in it) for the rest of my life.

I know that Dr. Phil says that you're not ready for a divorce until you've exhausted all options and you can walk away without any ill feelings.  Neither of those are the case here, but my wife has shown that she's not interested in exhausting any options (she's resumed an online relationship with someone she had an affair with, which tells me she's not interested in mending things).  I don't see what I could do to exhaust all other options on my own.  I'm also highly doubtful that either of us will be walking away without any ill feelings, which will be especially problematic for our sons.  I hope and want for us to at least remain civil for the sake of our boys, even if underneath we have anger for each other.

I don't own any of Dr. Phil's books, but I was thinking about picking up Family First and perhaps Relationship Rescue.  Would Relationship Rescue be of any use if reconciliation seems extremely unlikely?
I think that is so cool that Canada makes you stay married for a year after you separate. I was divorced shortly after my child's first birthday and it was just thrown on me from out of nowhere. I do think that a mandatory cooling off period is probably a good thing. I am so sorry she cheated on you though. I thought I had some advice  until I read the part about the online affair. Have you talked wtih her openly about any of this? Have you told her how you really feel? No book is going to help you unless you are able to do that. I do wish you well though.
 
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June 17, 2008, 12:15 pm PDT

A Divorce Photographer?

Hey folks, looking for some great ideas for my new business. I have been married twice, the first one was a closet case and the second (of 17 years) was king of domestic violence. With a lot of help and support, I was able to get out...scared to death of course...but have been out since last September and divorced in Feburary.

So, here I am a divorced 41 year old photography teacher who is just beginning her new life. As I get things in order (ok, throwing away a lot of the old crap) and looking forward to the future...an idea entered my mind.

Tell me what you think...I am wanting to begin my own business as "The Divorce Photograher - A Creative Celebration" for individuals who would like to therapeutically (and of course totally fun and super creative) deal with moving with their new life through photos. I would shoot anything they would like, such as trash the dress or tux, stand up on a mountain top and let the veil fly away..you get the idea...however they want to express themselves in a way that will allow them to heal.

With the divorce rate so high...who needs a wedding photograher these days Thanks for your feedback - mustbef8@gmail.com

 

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June 19, 2008, 1:47 pm PDT

Are you my twin?

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Wow--you just gave me chills!  My life is almost parallel to yours right now.  Just had our 11th anniversary this weekend.  My husband has just moved out and although he says he's trying to work on our marriage--I just got our cell phone bill and he's talking to this woman from work--almost every night.  I wonder as you do--does he want me to find out and get angry, each time I mention that obviously our marriage is over he gets angry with me and says that he's not ready to say that.  He's kept me from having friends too, so my life has been all about him for the past 15 years--now I don't know what to do without him.  I believe he has depression problems, but he would never admit to that.  I'm not sure which way to go--should I keep spending time with him on his terms and hope that he figures out that he wants our marriage or should I get angry and tell him to leave me alone until he figures this out.  I haven't told him that I know about the cell calls, I feel that if I do I then take away the one thing that gives me insite as to what he's doing.  What confuses me most is he will talk to her either right before or right after he talks to me.  He had told me once they were just friends from work, but with everything going on and him moving out, this "friendship" sure isn't helping us.  I would love to communicate more---how do we get in touch??

When I read this, I could have sworn I typed it. Except we’ve been married 10 years and our daughter turned 12 a week ago. I have been a good faithful Christian and now even my walk with God is not in the right place. I am in a place of vengeance right now and I feel like I can’t stop myself. So I am trying to isolate myself from everyone but he is making it impossible.  I want justice for myself and my child. To me cheaters, rapists and molesters are all the same: people who will stop at nothing to commit a sexual act with disregard for the possibility that they may scar their victim for life. I know a woman who killed herself behind a cheating husband. No legal action was taken. I know a woman hospitalized for being molested as a child. This man was at least arrested. Which is worse? Dealing with the death of your daughter? Especially if U are a Christian like me who believes there is no heaven for suicides (which by the way is the ONLY reason I have not killed myself at this point) or at least being able to visit your daughter and have strength for her healing? Why do I make such a gruesome comparison? Because I was molested as a child. Raped/almost raped (it was a friend of the family and when I screamed he stopped. It went in a little but not all the way, but far enough. I still remember being held down, his weight, his breath etc, which is horrible in itself) as a young woman and cheated on by my spouse multiple times (this 3 year affair is the worst bcuz we went thru 6 months of counseling only to find out he KEPT his girlfriend throughout counseling and would talk to HER about OUR sessions. HE never talked to me about our therapy!) Having experienced all three I can honestly say that this act committed against me by my spouse is worse than the others. This act has me on the edge of my sanity and my life. Where is the justice for me? Would infidelity be as high if it was punishable by law? How do we get a law passed? Research the women who have killed them selves, gone crazy or both to hold someone responsible?

 
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June 19, 2008, 8:36 pm PDT

Back to court for back alimony or writ of execution

Let me thank all of you who have taken the time to respond.  It has opened my eyes and I have looked at this entirely differently.  Here is my question:  Since I dont have the money for a high powered attorney I can file pauper papers and take my ex back to court for back alimony.  He has not paid a dime since 04.  With my house note rising every month I could really use the money.  My other option is called a writ of execution, where the sherrif's dept goes and picks up all his tools and equipment and sells it on the court house steps, and I get the proceeds.  Any advice???? I know what will happen, he will go into court and tell the judge he has no money take no documentation and I am scared that once again he will just go to jail and I still wont get a dime. 
 
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June 20, 2008, 9:14 pm PDT

Never say never

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Hi,

 

I have recently told my husband that I am very unhappy for the millionth time and that I would like us to separate for the first time. He would have lived with me unhappily with me for the rest of his life, but I could not continue that life.

We have 3 fantastic kids, he is a wonderful father, very attentive and loving.

We have been married for 9yrs and although he is very loving and affectionate with our children he is not with me at all, I mean never kisses me , hugs me, no affection whatsoever. He says he loves me, but after years of me telling him that I need to feel loved it has gone on deaf ears. He is not the type to cheat, he has very high morals, just an inability to share himself emotionally with me. he is perfect in every other way, and many would say I would be an idiot to let him go, I just feel as though I am slowly disappearing in this relationship.

I have become quite angry about our situation this year and that has affected our home greatly. A lot of my anger has been taken out on my 7yr old, she is always in trouble, and I needed to put an end to that cycle, for her sake more than anyone else's.

If anyone can give me any advice, I would graciously accept it. We have decided to live together, but in separate rooms, wanting to still have the family environment for the children. We are able to get along quite well and it is a much happier environment since we split.

Please any advice

After reading your story, I thought about my marriage of nearly 30 years. My husband is not affectionate either. He never seemed to want to be intimate so I just got used to his low level interest.  Recently I learned that he has been having a relationship with another woman.  I was shocked.  He was not the type and has always put a premium on securing our financial future.  He never took interest in other women as far as I could tell.

 

I tired of not feeling loved, honored or wanted but after learning of his affair, I have decided it's time to move on with my life by filing for a legal separation.  My child has noticed my husband shows no love or concern for me except when I'm sick.  This is not a healthy environment for any child.  I could not stay in the same house with my husband if I had three kids because you are modeling behavior that is not what you would want for them in their relationship.

 

If the issue is economic, save your funds so you can move on. I wished I had done it years ago but better late then never.

 
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June 30, 2008, 1:04 am PDT

Divorce Support

I was wondering if any of you are recently divorced with children? I am having some dfficulties with my ex and have never been through anything like this.  He has had 2 affairs and after finding out about the second one and him leaving with her, I do not want him back. Problem is that Cali is a no blame state. In the beginning of our sepperation him and I and his girlfriend and I exchanged a few hateful words. I was angry, frustrated and very hurt. My question is that though we exchanged words, none of them where threats in either dirrection. And because his girlfriend and him have done many things wrong including illegal things he is feeling a little paranoid. We have not gone to court yet and he claims he is going to get me for harrasement.  pretty much know the answer to this, but can he? We exchanged the same amount of hateful words and arguements. But in his feelings of paranoya he is trying to bring me there too. I have heard this is normal because he is loosing control and wants to bring me down. Anyone know anything about this???  
 
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June 30, 2008, 11:49 am PDT

You Don't Need a Sea Lawyer

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I was wondering if any of you are recently divorced with children? I am having some dfficulties with my ex and have never been through anything like this.  He has had 2 affairs and after finding out about the second one and him leaving with her, I do not want him back. Problem is that Cali is a no blame state. In the beginning of our sepperation him and I and his girlfriend and I exchanged a few hateful words. I was angry, frustrated and very hurt. My question is that though we exchanged words, none of them where threats in either dirrection. And because his girlfriend and him have done many things wrong including illegal things he is feeling a little paranoid. We have not gone to court yet and he claims he is going to get me for harrasement.  pretty much know the answer to this, but can he? We exchanged the same amount of hateful words and arguements. But in his feelings of paranoya he is trying to bring me there too. I have heard this is normal because he is loosing control and wants to bring me down. Anyone know anything about this???  
You don't need a sea lawyer, you need a real one. Check with an attorney, tell him everything, and that way you can be sure. If you can't afford an attorney, check with your local legal aide. Good luck, and let us know how it goes. It may help others having the same problem.
 
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July 1, 2008, 3:49 pm PDT

looking for help

I have been married for 7+ years. I have a daughter from prior to my marriage (I was a single mom for 8 years.) and a son from this marriage.

My husband was physically and mentally abusive from the beginning of our marriage to both myself and my daughter. I kicked him out and told him he could not come back unless he complted anger management and fixed his behavior. He did that, and is no longer abusive. (He also reduced his drinking by quite a bit.)

However he still has an explosive temper, where he punches and kicks things or yells at the kids and then leaves. He wont yell at me anymore.

He knows I am not in love with him anymore. I have not been since he first started the abuse, but I was pregnant when started the physical abuse and have been coming up wtih reasons not to leave for years. (I had to finish college, I needed to make more money, I wanted the kids to be older, my parents will disown me...still a possibility.)

He is a good father and the kids love him. But I am miserable. All my excuses are gone now. I finished school, and am making enough money and I am tired of being upset.

I dont want to loose my house, and I dont want the process to be harder on anyone in our family than it has to be, but Im tired and miserable.

I just want him to go away. How can I ask for a seperation and ask for him to move out. I dont want child support, I just want him to split the bills 50/50 and leave. He can have the kids as often as he wants, in fact it will be required as I travel for work regularly. Will my daughter still be treated like his child? She is not, and I wonder if he will just chuck her aside. He is the only father she has ever known.

Please some advise...How do I tell him without ANOTHER huge argument. How do I get him to leave and yet not hate me?

 
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July 2, 2008, 9:06 am PDT

Memories

After 21 years of marriage, I am now again "single".  My story:  My husband was emotionally abusive to me and preferred food to a relationship.  He developed into what is medically referred to as  "morbidly obese".  Numerous health problems ensued; high blood pressure, high cholestrol, erectile dysfunction, diabetes, bleeding hemmoroids, and severe sleep apnea.  As he grew more rotund, our marriage disintregrated.  His outlet for his anger was me.  No longer did I recognize the man I married.  Then came the Internet relationships....he "shared" his life with total strangers (and his mom).  He withdrew and didn't even pick his dirty underwear off the floor.  I was living with a stranger who expected me to take care of everything; and I did until finally, I wore out.

 

Okay....so I'm out.  But I'm so darn sad and angry.  I have days when I just want to cry.  Never did I expect to be in my late forties and single.  I feel old and used!! 

 

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July 2, 2008, 10:20 pm PDT

He's still abusive

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I have been married for 7+ years. I have a daughter from prior to my marriage (I was a single mom for 8 years.) and a son from this marriage.

My husband was physically and mentally abusive from the beginning of our marriage to both myself and my daughter. I kicked him out and told him he could not come back unless he complted anger management and fixed his behavior. He did that, and is no longer abusive. (He also reduced his drinking by quite a bit.)

However he still has an explosive temper, where he punches and kicks things or yells at the kids and then leaves. He wont yell at me anymore.

He knows I am not in love with him anymore. I have not been since he first started the abuse, but I was pregnant when started the physical abuse and have been coming up wtih reasons not to leave for years. (I had to finish college, I needed to make more money, I wanted the kids to be older, my parents will disown me...still a possibility.)

He is a good father and the kids love him. But I am miserable. All my excuses are gone now. I finished school, and am making enough money and I am tired of being upset.

I dont want to loose my house, and I dont want the process to be harder on anyone in our family than it has to be, but Im tired and miserable.

I just want him to go away. How can I ask for a seperation and ask for him to move out. I dont want child support, I just want him to split the bills 50/50 and leave. He can have the kids as often as he wants, in fact it will be required as I travel for work regularly. Will my daughter still be treated like his child? She is not, and I wonder if he will just chuck her aside. He is the only father she has ever known.

Please some advise...How do I tell him without ANOTHER huge argument. How do I get him to leave and yet not hate me?

He's still abusive.

 

He has a problem with alcohol.

 

Explosive tempers are a way to control and have power over you and your children, your household.  That is abuse.

 

Punching things and kicking things is physical abuse.

 

Punching things and kicking things are also implied threats.

 

Yelling at the kids is abuse.

 

He's abusing the kids, and knows it also hurts you.

 

Good fathers do NOT abuse their children nor their children's mother.  They do NOT create chaos in the home.

 

Please contact a domestic abuse hot-line and speak with an advocate on setting up a plan, a safety plan, a plan for making these changes along  with legal advocacy and to be sure its done as safely as possible.

 

This guy is still abusing YOU and YOUR CHILDREN.

 

This is not going to be easy and he'll not take kindly to separation...or divorce.  Abusers do NOT let go easily nor with a smile on their face.

 

I'd also be leery of his behavior toward your daughter...he will surely continue what you already know to be his behavior toward her.

 

I'm sorry you and your children are going thru such on going pain.

 

Abusers can rain hell on an entire family.

 

Take care

 

 

 

 

 

 

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