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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:02:24 pm
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Has your partner been unfaithful? Have you been the one to stray? Share your advice and support with others that have experienced infidelity.

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May 3, 2006, 12:11 pm PDT

Baby steps

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You know -- I know I need to look after ME -- but you hit it on the head -- it is a scary place to be.   

  

Because I made some bad choices and went into a spending spiral that put us into major debt -- my fault -- bad choices, but precipitated by the beginning of his friendship with her -- he took my name off of the joint account.  You know typing it out -- I do know what that means......... but I still am too paralysed to save myself.  How do I find the strength?  

  

Am I wasting my time by confronting him and asking for truth, trust and control?? I am so conflicted -- and I don't want to see a lawyer until I am prepared to follow through.............. 

  

I ask him to help me by trying to understand how I feel -- and he says he will try -- how many times do I let him try just long enough to placate me, and then stop?   

  

You know I used to wonder why abused women stayed -- and now I know some of the paralysis they must feel.  

  

  

  

  

 Trust me, what you are going through is a phase. The next one is anger, and possibly revenge. Before you get there, and do something you will regret or say things that can't be unsaid, confide in someone. Coming here was a good first step, but talking to someone you know will make it real in your life. Like I said, if he's cheating, and it sounds to me like he is, having it in the open is oftenttimes the kiss of death to an affair. Also, he will see that you are not going to be a passive doormat about it either. Men respect strength of character and a willingness to stand up for yourself. And you will begin to respect yourself again too. Taking this and doing nothing will get you nowhere, and it's what he's counting on.
 
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May 3, 2006, 12:28 pm PDT

Hi Regguy

 How's it going? I took a little hiatus as these boards can be addicting, but depressing. I had a thought about your situation while I was meditating. In the past you characterized yourself as a "fixit, in control" type. And your wife as suffering from some emotional issues from her past. Do you think It's possible she refuses to go to counseling with you because she feels like you are trying to change her into someone more like you?
 I ask this because I once felt this way about my husband. Your description of your situation was eerily familiar. What I needed more than anything was counseling, and my husband knew it, but it was the way he presented the idea that I resisted. It's all clear to me now, of course, but at the time I felt I was being manipulated.( I WAS, but I attached the worst intentions to it, not the real ones.)
So I guess what I'm saying is that maybe if you approached her and suggested she get personal counseling for her obvious unhappiness, not to fix the marriage or anything like that. Suggest that you would feel better if you knew that she was going to be OK, no matter what happened to the marriage. It's a gesture that will convey unconditional love and caring. She may respond.
 
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May 3, 2006, 12:29 pm PDT

To MT - Congratulations

MT, 

      Hope you see this. Congratulations on leaving the "Valley of Lost Souls" . It must be quite glorious to clear the fog and see the sunshine once again.  I know all is not perfect or where you want them but at least you are back living with the real people.  Living , breathing and healing. And from here hopefully as I pointed out before you can decide what to be when you grow up. Go back and look at my posts to you on this subject and how to live life honorably.(It is a true gift to onesself and all those around us). They should make more sense to you now.  

  

Take care and good luck in your new found real life. 

  

          Regguy 

 
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May 3, 2006, 12:38 pm PDT

Good Advice

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 How's it going? I took a little hiatus as these boards can be addicting, but depressing. I had a thought about your situation while I was meditating. In the past you characterized yourself as a "fixit, in control" type. And your wife as suffering from some emotional issues from her past. Do you think It's possible she refuses to go to counseling with you because she feels like you are trying to change her into someone more like you?
 I ask this because I once felt this way about my husband. Your description of your situation was eerily familiar. What I needed more than anything was counseling, and my husband knew it, but it was the way he presented the idea that I resisted. It's all clear to me now, of course, but at the time I felt I was being manipulated.( I WAS, but I attached the worst intentions to it, not the real ones.)
So I guess what I'm saying is that maybe if you approached her and suggested she get personal counseling for her obvious unhappiness, not to fix the marriage or anything like that. Suggest that you would feel better if you knew that she was going to be OK, no matter what happened to the marriage. It's a gesture that will convey unconditional love and caring. She may respond.

Ritehere, 

       You are right these boards are addicting and depressing. I am leaving all by the end of the month.  I did not say I was a control type.  I am a take charge and make it happen kind of guy. But I also see that it would be perceived the same. She gets to make plenty of decisions about the house, vacations etc.  I have no desire to change the basic person. She is basically a good person but like you carrying around this baggage from her upbringing that she needs to deal with. We just need to work on us to get along.  Your advice on counseling is a good idea. Is your e-mail still valid. There is much more for me to say on this subject and since you seem to have lived quite a bit of her side I would really appreciate getting some advice. Yes your experience was eerily similar. Let me know if I can e-mail you. 

  

Take care and thanks:      Regguy  

 
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May 3, 2006, 1:06 pm PDT

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Ritehere, 

       You are right these boards are addicting and depressing. I am leaving all by the end of the month.  I did not say I was a control type.  I am a take charge and make it happen kind of guy. But I also see that it would be perceived the same. She gets to make plenty of decisions about the house, vacations etc.  I have no desire to change the basic person. She is basically a good person but like you carrying around this baggage from her upbringing that she needs to deal with. We just need to work on us to get along.  Your advice on counseling is a good idea. Is your e-mail still valid. There is much more for me to say on this subject and since you seem to have lived quite a bit of her side I would really appreciate getting some advice. Yes your experience was eerily similar. Let me know if I can e-mail you. 

  

Take care and thanks:      Regguy  

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May 3, 2006, 1:29 pm PDT

Thanks!

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MT, 

      Hope you see this. Congratulations on leaving the "Valley of Lost Souls" . It must be quite glorious to clear the fog and see the sunshine once again.  I know all is not perfect or where you want them but at least you are back living with the real people.  Living , breathing and healing. And from here hopefully as I pointed out before you can decide what to be when you grow up. Go back and look at my posts to you on this subject and how to live life honorably.(It is a true gift to onesself and all those around us). They should make more sense to you now.  

  

Take care and good luck in your new found real life. 

  

          Regguy 

Thanks for the kudos!  I really do feel SO much better now that I have let go of the fantasy.  I finally feel like I can move forward with life--whatever I choose or whatever it brings.  Still haven't decided what I want to be when I grow up, but I'm on the way to learning that.   I guess you gathered from my posts on the other board that I am also trying to open up to my husband.  We still definitely have issues, and he still refuses counseling, but I had a huge brick wall built up against him.  I am dismantling that wall brick by brick, and it's my hope that we can work together (and that he will finally listen!) to make our marriage what it should be.  If we can't, I hope we can at least be amicable.  I will go back and read your posts, as you suggest.  I have been reading posts on this Board but have remained an observer rather than a contributor. 

  

I hope you find happiness on your path, wherever it takes you. 

  

MT 

 
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May 3, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

same situation

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I have 2 ways at looking at this.  First of all, I do not beleive that there is any reason that people of the opposit sex cannot be friends.  I have plenty of male friends but my husband knows about them.  They are not a threat or make him feel uncomfortable or insecure in any way because he is part of that group as well.  I have included him in the friendship even if his relationship with them is not as close.  I do not mean that he goes with me every time that we do something but it does mean that he is aware and okay with my decision to particip[ate in these other relationships.  So I guess that brings me to my second point, if you don't have anything to hide then you don't hide it.  If it is a secret and you cannot tell your partner about it, then it is inappropriate even if you think he/she will be upset.  That is the #1 reason that men give for going out to someone else outside the marriage "my spouse doesn't understand me" "I cannot talk to my spouse as easy as jane doe", etc. The reality is that there are other types of affairs besides sexuals ones, emotional affairs for example.  My husband swore he didn't sleep with a co-worker but that she was just a friend but yet it caused him to distance himself emotionally and physically.  He spoke with her every day, more than once a day.  Now I know that what he did was not okay.  What he told me was that he knew I would be angry about the friendship.  Well, in the end of course I was, because it eventually lead to more and has almost destroyed our relationship at this point.  We are on a very fine line between together and divorced.  The only thing that motivaates me is my 6 month old son.  I know-sad isn't it.  Just do not let him blame you or give you excuses because that is what it is -an excuse.  He should respect you and your relationship enough to stop doing something if it is truly bothering you.  I think he knows that it is an inappropriate relatiionship if he has to keep it a secret.  Anyway, I wish you the best. Good luck

I am in the same situation -- its been 5 years and he knows how unhappy I am about it.  His answer is now to lie about the time he spends with her.  

  

Did your husband stop interacting with her?  How did you get him to see how inappropriate it is?  

  

I don't want to divorce, but I am beginning to think it is the only option for me.  

 
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May 3, 2006, 2:47 pm PDT

Moving on

I am having a really hard time coping with my husbands multiple affairs. we have been together for about eight and a half years and married for two years. we have a daughter Crislen who is eighteen months old. He did cheat while we were young with 2 girls but my real problems started when we became engaged. He cheated on me with 7 girls most of whom I new and the worst with my best friend. One of the girls is pregnant and due soon although there is another male involved in this situation. I feel so not good enough. I put my heart into my life as a family and I feel like I failed. I also feel haunted by the past. I constantly compare my self to them especially the one that was my friend (well obviosly she wasn't a friend). I dream about it, and it seems to pop into my head at the most random moments. I cry so much, and I put so much on my husband to validate me as a wife and it seems that is still not enough. Whats worse is that my husband isn't the romantic loving type, and i feel that I need those things  to feel comfortable in our marriage. We also moved to South FL which is were 90% of the affairs took place. We moved away from my life, friends and family. We have only been here for four months and he has already decided to move us back because I am so unhappy and depressed. Our move is a few months away (like December) and I just don't know how I am going to cope. We have a book that has exercises to help us through all this and we were doing great with it before we moved and were with a counsellor but now that we are on our own we don't touch it. I am just so sad all the time and the affairs have been out since October. Does anyone have any advice for moving on?
 
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May 3, 2006, 4:06 pm PDT

Here is your main problem...

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I am having a really hard time coping with my husbands multiple affairs. we have been together for about eight and a half years and married for two years. we have a daughter Crislen who is eighteen months old. He did cheat while we were young with 2 girls but my real problems started when we became engaged. He cheated on me with 7 girls most of whom I new and the worst with my best friend. One of the girls is pregnant and due soon although there is another male involved in this situation. I feel so not good enough. I put my heart into my life as a family and I feel like I failed. I also feel haunted by the past. I constantly compare my self to them especially the one that was my friend (well obviosly she wasn't a friend). I dream about it, and it seems to pop into my head at the most random moments. I cry so much, and I put so much on my husband to validate me as a wife and it seems that is still not enough. Whats worse is that my husband isn't the romantic loving type, and i feel that I need those things  to feel comfortable in our marriage. We also moved to South FL which is were 90% of the affairs took place. We moved away from my life, friends and family. We have only been here for four months and he has already decided to move us back because I am so unhappy and depressed. Our move is a few months away (like December) and I just don't know how I am going to cope. We have a book that has exercises to help us through all this and we were doing great with it before we moved and were with a counsellor but now that we are on our own we don't touch it. I am just so sad all the time and the affairs have been out since October. Does anyone have any advice for moving on?

You expect validation from a man that has no morals or character. The only failure you have is in your choice of men. It is not you that has made this marriage a failure, it is your husband. I am sorry that you chose to marry this man after so many affairs, but you did. Now you have to decide if you are willing to continue to put up with this type of behavior. 

  

You don't need this man. You don't need him to validate you as a woman, wife, or mother. You are not the one that has no morals HE is. Obviously the women he has committed infidelity with have not more morals or character than HE has, as they would not be spreading their legs for a married man. Yes, this was not your friend that befriended you and slept with your husband. She is a harlot, just like the others. 

  

You need to decide what kind of life you want for your daughter, and what kind of example you want to set for her, as she is going to one day grow up, and surely you don't want to send her a message that it is okay for this kind of behavior to take place, as well as sending her a message that she should accept this type of behavior from her husband.  

  

You need to decide what you are willing to put up with. Your husband is a low life, no doubt, and you and your daughter deserve better. If you are not getting the emotional things you are needing from your husband, and he obviously is not going to change, get out now. You have not mentioned your age, but if you have a young daughter, I assume you are young yourself, and still have a lot of time to find someone that will show you the respect you deserve, and give you the romance you are needing. 

  

Moving on is not going to be easy, but you can at least take solace in the fact that you always took the high road, and did your best to make the best of the marriage. You can take solace in the fact that you did the right thing and get out of a situation before your husband brings home a deadly disease that will make an orphan out of your daughter. It will not be easy, and the pain will take time to heal but it will heal. 

  

You need to get out of the situation you are in, and focus on you and your daughter. You need to take time, maybe even counseling, to help you realize you are worth more than the treatment your husband has shown you. You need to focus on your self esteem and realize your true worth, which has nothing to do with your husband's view of you, your marriage, or the way he treats women. You have a daughter, and if you will focus on healing, and at the same time know that you are going to do everything you can to ensure your daughter does not allow a man to drag her down the way this man has done you, to the point to where you are looking to blame yourself, for an immoral man that lacks the character we of humankind still have. 

  

I hope this at least gives you some food for thought. Good luck, and realize these boards can be a wealth of support while you are going through this transition, and taking back your life, and living it to the fullest, to a new adventure that will be your future. 

 
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May 3, 2006, 5:43 pm PDT

how does this work?

 
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