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Has your partner been unfaithful? Have you been the one to stray? Share your advice and support with others that have experienced infidelity.

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November 29, 2007, 5:34 pm PST

Not much there

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Well acutally Therapy is out of the question.... Like I said I live in a small town and there is nothing like that here.  Talking about our feelings is almost impossible... He is like a robot!!!!  Do you think there is any hope for our marriage.  We have 3 kids together and sometimes I think he is still here for them.
From what you are telling me, there is not much there.

This is tough - because you are BOTH modeling for your children a behavior which is disfunctional.

If you have boys, they are learning from your husband how to act in a relationship.  I hope they understand (or are able to) what you and your husband are going through is not healthy.

Tough call. But just remember you only have one life - so make it a healthy and happy one.

Sorry I'm not much more help.

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November 30, 2007, 4:02 am PST

how do i heal.

THis is my first time talking about this. I just found out that my husband of 5 years got some one pregnant.i knew he was cheating and we tryed to work on our relationship.Now i find out that his girlfriend is 5 months pregnant.And the sad part he wants me to stand bye him.He says he and her are not togather but i dont believe him.And i thing he has other girlfriend.I dont know what to do ,we have a 14 year old daughter and i have to thing about her,I love my husband very much but i dont know if i can ever forgive him.This has pull the rug from right under my feet.

 
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November 30, 2007, 10:57 am PST

Husband's mistress is pregnant

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THis is my first time talking about this. I just found out that my husband of 5 years got some one pregnant.i knew he was cheating and we tryed to work on our relationship.Now i find out that his girlfriend is 5 months pregnant.And the sad part he wants me to stand bye him.He says he and her are not togather but i dont believe him.And i thing he has other girlfriend.I dont know what to do ,we have a 14 year old daughter and i have to thing about her,I love my husband very much but i dont know if i can ever forgive him.This has pull the rug from right under my feet.

I cannot imagine how this makes you feel! This is really big news. Standing by your husband when he got his mistress pregnant is a very personal decision; if you feel in your heart that he is lying to you about not being with her, you MUST listen to your instincts.
You’ve got to ask yourself, are you better with or without him?
Are you going to be able to lovingly accept this baby in your heart? Will you be able to forgive your husband and live a happy, healthy life together?
Be 100% honest with yourself, you deserve to have a happy, fulfilling life. Your husband has lied to you and now he is having a baby with another woman!
Regarding your daughter- remember this- you are the most powerful female role model she will ever have. You are teaching her what is ‘normal.’ By staying in this relationship, you are teaching your daughter that when men cheat and disrespect women, it is okay. If it isn’t okay with you, you must be proactive for yourself; you deserve so much more! I wish you the best, take care of YOU!
 
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December 1, 2007, 6:59 pm PST

I Totally Agree With What You are Saying.....

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 OK, so you're saying that you thought your husband was being faithful until after his stroke when you found evidence that he was still carrying on the same sad saga of porn and setting up meets with people. Don't worry about your words, they are apt. You HAVE been crapped on, more than once.

What I was asking was what has changed this time?

 He has never been a good husband, and you have caught him in the past in infidelities and lying. Yet you stayed with him. You do admit that part of the reason you stayed was because he always provided for you and the kids. You don't have to say anything on these boards if you don't want to, but you MUST be brutally honest with yourself.  Did you settle for this arrangement because it enabled you to take care of your children better than you could have as a single parent? Did you delude yourself about what he was up to because it was easier to do so than to divorce him and have the kid's lives uprooted again? And now that he has had a stroke you may have to see more of him in the future than you care to, and THIS is what has you contemplating leaving him? I would add, is this why you feel guilty and protest that you DO love him, etc etc etc?

Understand, I'm NOT judging you. I know all too well what it feels like to be trapped in a marriage that seems to be all in favor of the one who is lying and cheating. What you have is a crisis. He has been slapped with his mortality and you are not so sure you can muster the proper sentiments, especially in the face of the latest discoveries.

I can't tell you what to do, beyond what I have- face your demons. If you really believe that he will revert to his former ways when he is better, then maybe it's time to take stock of your life and what you have been deluding yourself about all these years.

So that means things have to change. I can sense in your posts the reluctance, the wishing it would all just resolve itself and life go on much as it did before. I know this feeling also, he made the mess, he should have to do all the work. The thing you have to realize is that you enabled him to get away with it all these years. He may have developed some nasty habits, but you let it get swept under the rug. I know how easy that is when you're raising kids, when your husband is uninvolved, you tend to put the kids above the marriage. When he doesn't beat you and pays the bills and leaves for periods of time, it helps you to set up your life in a way that gets you through the day. It's not a glamorous life, but you feel "normal." Until things are upset and there's no going back. (This is the "change" I wanted you to zero in on.)

Dr Phil recommends that you work your way out of a marriage, by availing yourself of counseling and anything else that you can try. My suggestion is that if your husband is truly remorseful, but doesn't seem to be doing much to make it up to you, YOU need to fill in the blanks for him. Decide what you need from him and let him know. Hold him to any agreements he makes with you. Beware of ultimatums though, like "I'll divorce you if you ever___again" unless you are absolutely prepared to back them up with action.

I think the most undeniable fact through all this is how much I really do love him and I do know that he loves us.  We truly have a soulmate type of relationship but I despise his lack of respect. (Surprise-the man has NO friends that he associates with whatsoever.) He hates the self destructive behavior he has as much as I do and I see this as no different than a situation with drug addict or alcoholic. It really is an illness and I think my own guilt is a huge part of what is making me stay too. I believe you don't just walk out on someone while they are down.

 

As far as what you mentioned about having to be around him more goes-his work schedule either has him in another state or country or completely home. He does not go to an office daily. We are either 100% or nothing.  My biggest gripe right now- I confronted him over a month ago and although he wrote me an extremely honest, enlightening  letter, he has made no effort to get himself into counseling as he said he would.

 

I think part of the reasons I have not left him: Yes, income has a lot to do with it, our rural location, the fact that this is my third marriage and I hate to say I made another poor choice, which, realistically I have known for a long time. I made mistakes early in life that I still pay for and with children involved it makes me look at all perspectives considering it is not all about me but more so about them.  As far as his nasty habits go-he does acknowledge that his lying was there long before me. He has a constant need to nourish a poor ego. Obviously his self esteem is incredibly low. (Yes, mine must be right now too, I know.....) He is now released from physical therapy so his stroke is not an issue. My own mother is more than likely dying from cancer and is 8 hours away. I keep thinking about how much I need to be there with her rather than here where I do not feel respected or appreciated. Of course the children have school so that is a stumbling block for me where that is concerned. I feel like I need space but am scared to take it! And yes, I am at a point of ultimatum that I am ready to back up!

 
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December 2, 2007, 8:13 am PST

Clarity...

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My wife cheated on me about 6 months ago.  We have been married 9 years and together for over 10.  I love her very much and do not want to seperate or get a divorce and neither does she.  We also have two boys (5 and 7).  About 90% of the time, we are great.  Its the other 10% that gets me in trouble.  I am having a very hard time getting the whole affair out of my head.  I found out via an email with a picture attached.  Lets just say the picture keeps coming up.  We are in couples therapy and that is helping a great deal.  She knows she made a terrible mistake and won't do it again.  I do believe her and just want to get over it.  Any thoughts or help would be great.  She is human and we all make mistakes.  Some of them are bigger then others though.  I do not want to end my relationship with my wife, but am afraid I will not get over this. 
 You say you're great about 90% of the time, but the other 10% is "getting the whole affair out of my head."
It's the picture.
Your wife is doing all the right things, and you are satisfied that she is sincere, but the picture is there in your head.
Ask your counselor for help with this. Be specific, because it IS this specific image that causes you great pain. You are seeing it in your head and using it to refute everything you are seeing and hearing from your wife NOW. Even though, logically, you understand that it was in the past and your wife is trully remorseful, it is a reminder that you cannot seem to shake. I don't know what your therapist may recommend, but I'm sure this has been dealt with before.
Sorry I can't help you more than this, I'm not a doctor but I understand your feelings.
 
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December 2, 2007, 8:34 am PST

Counseling and guidance

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Reading the message boards ... it talks alot about being cheated on.  My case is different .  I was the one that cheated, but 7 years ago.  My husband still does not trust me although he says he is over it and has accepted it.  He never throws it in my face but I know the trust is gone,  He questions everything I do and doesn't believe a word that I say.  I live in a small town and this affair was town gossip for over a year.  i was the one that everyone frowned upon... not the other man.  Recently the other man and his wife split up and now my husband and I are having a lot of problems.  He put a wall up where I'm concerned.   He always shuts me out and pushes me away.  Maybe in the back of his mind he thinks I will do it again because of their marital problems.  I have assured him over and over again that I will never betray him like that again.  I think this is why he put that wall up, so it won't hurt as much if I do stray which he thinks I will.  i know that I won't and convincing him is almost impossible.  I don't know what to do anymore, any advice?
 You made a mistake and are living the consequences of it every day. You would like to move past it, and have a close and loving marriage, but it's just not happening.
What did you two do, after the affair, to regain trust and have a fulfilling marriage again?
Would you catagorize your marriage as more of a "roommates" arrangement now?

I'm here to tell you that you CAN make a huge mistake, be forgiven and forgive yourself, and move on to a richer and fuller life because of lessons you've learned. Even though it's been 7 years, whatever you two did is not working is it? Are you ready to try something else?
I suggest this: break through your communication block with your husband enough to let him know that you are aware that your former lover has ended his marriage. Tell your husband that this has been a wake up call to you that YOUR marriage has been in trouble also, and that you DON'T want it to end. You have no idea why their marriage is over, maybe it stems from the betrayal you share with this man, and that you will be eternally sad and ashamed of that if it is so. The ending of their marriage has NOTHING whatever to do with you NOW, though. Tell your husband that this event has made you aware of the emotional desert your own marriage has become and that you are willing to do whatever it takes to get back to being a truly loving and committed couple. You have no intention or desire to see your marriage end. You need his participation though, or it won't work.
And then go find the answers. Coming here was an excellent step. RELATIONSHIP RESCUE is a great place to start, if you are willing to read it. In fact if you were to begin reading it and applying the tools and attitudes to your marriage, your husband may get interested also. Also consider counseling, even if you did it before and was not satisfied. Sometimes we are not ready for the work involved.
 
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December 2, 2007, 8:40 am PST

Hang in there.

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Well hi again..  It has been 7 months since I found out about my husband affair with a co worker. We

are working on our marriage.  The only problem is she won't leave us alone.  I was doing pretty

good until October when she decided after two and half months to contact me and asked me if

I was ready to give him up yet.  I emailed the witch back and told her no I was not going to give him

up and that he was my husband and not her's and that he would never be hers.  I told her that  we were doing great and I thanked her and told her that all of this has brought us closer together as a couple. 

I also told her that my husband was sending me all of the emails that she sends to him. After saying all that to her it pissed her off and she emailed my husband and bitched him out.  Once again he told

her that it was over and that he loved me and wanted our marriage to work.  My husband had the

last two weeks off and went back to work Tuesday.  So going through his 8,000  emails, he came

across 2 from her.  They were his horoscopes telling him that he need to make a change in his

life and that the affair needed to be made into a permanent  partnership and that he needed to

get the person that was sponging off of him out of his life. I guess that must mean me since

I don't work and am a stay home mom.  He deletes her emails after he sends them to me.

I really don't think she is ever going to go away. She is suppose to leave the company at the end of next

month, due to the job she is doing has been sent to Buffalo and was not asked to go . Every time that

I think she is out of my life and I am taking controll again she pops back up.

 Give it time. And I would also suggest that neither of you not respond to her in any way. She is not getting what she wants, which is attention from your husband, so she is going after you because she can push your buttons. Don't give her the satisfaction. See her emails for what they are-last ditch efforts to get any kind of attention at all-and let it go.
 
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December 2, 2007, 8:47 am PST

Don't write off therapy so easily!

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Well acutally Therapy is out of the question.... Like I said I live in a small town and there is nothing like that here.  Talking about our feelings is almost impossible... He is like a robot!!!!  Do you think there is any hope for our marriage.  We have 3 kids together and sometimes I think he is still here for them.
 What about your clergy? Sometimes just sitting down with an objective person and laying it all out helps. Your husband is a robot because of a deep disappointment in you. Understand this and be willing to find a way to get through to him. Blaming his reaction to your infidelity isn't going to get him to warm up and open up.
It's highly possible that he stays with you for the children! Begin with being grateful that he is a man that feels deeply committed to his children. This capacity of deep committment shows a level of loyalty that may be your salvation. If counseling is rare or non-existent in your town, look to books, but don't give up.
 
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December 2, 2007, 9:05 am PST

First thing's first

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THis is my first time talking about this. I just found out that my husband of 5 years got some one pregnant.i knew he was cheating and we tryed to work on our relationship.Now i find out that his girlfriend is 5 months pregnant.And the sad part he wants me to stand bye him.He says he and her are not togather but i dont believe him.And i thing he has other girlfriend.I dont know what to do ,we have a 14 year old daughter and i have to thing about her,I love my husband very much but i dont know if i can ever forgive him.This has pull the rug from right under my feet.

 You cannot begin to heal until you decide what YOU are going to do. Your husband has made his decision, he wants you to stand by him. You are sure he is still seeing the woman he impregnated and suspect he is seeing another woman too.
You say you don't know what to do. This is understandable, we don't sign on for this kind of grief when we get married do we? Nonetheless, it IS happening, and it's happening to YOU. So I suggest you take inventory.
1) What did you both do when you "tryed to work on" your marriage after you found out about the affair? Did it work, in other words, are YOU now sure that your marriage is moving in the right direction?
2) Is your husband showing any sort of responsiblilty towards the child he has helped to start? Is he at least willing to take a paternity test, to acknowledge whether he is truly the father and take on the obligations of child support?
3) If he is the father, how do you feel about that? If he wanted to be a father to this child, would you be willing to get to know the child? And if he wants nothing to do with it, even to find out if he is the father, how would you feel about that?
4) Can you ever trust him again? What would he have to do to get back your respect and trust? Do you think he is capable or willing to do these things?
5) Do you think he will ever be the husband you obviously want him to be?

He wants you to stand beside him. What do you want and will he deliver?
 
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December 2, 2007, 9:27 am PST

No regrets-

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I think the most undeniable fact through all this is how much I really do love him and I do know that he loves us.  We truly have a soulmate type of relationship but I despise his lack of respect. (Surprise-the man has NO friends that he associates with whatsoever.) He hates the self destructive behavior he has as much as I do and I see this as no different than a situation with drug addict or alcoholic. It really is an illness and I think my own guilt is a huge part of what is making me stay too. I believe you don't just walk out on someone while they are down.

 

As far as what you mentioned about having to be around him more goes-his work schedule either has him in another state or country or completely home. He does not go to an office daily. We are either 100% or nothing.  My biggest gripe right now- I confronted him over a month ago and although he wrote me an extremely honest, enlightening  letter, he has made no effort to get himself into counseling as he said he would.

 

I think part of the reasons I have not left him: Yes, income has a lot to do with it, our rural location, the fact that this is my third marriage and I hate to say I made another poor choice, which, realistically I have known for a long time. I made mistakes early in life that I still pay for and with children involved it makes me look at all perspectives considering it is not all about me but more so about them.  As far as his nasty habits go-he does acknowledge that his lying was there long before me. He has a constant need to nourish a poor ego. Obviously his self esteem is incredibly low. (Yes, mine must be right now too, I know.....) He is now released from physical therapy so his stroke is not an issue. My own mother is more than likely dying from cancer and is 8 hours away. I keep thinking about how much I need to be there with her rather than here where I do not feel respected or appreciated. Of course the children have school so that is a stumbling block for me where that is concerned. I feel like I need space but am scared to take it! And yes, I am at a point of ultimatum that I am ready to back up!

 OK, you're being honest with youself, a very good beginning.
Now, I'm going to suggest that you go spend time with your mother. Don't let anything persuade you not to do this, your husband's stroke "is not an issue" anymore, there's no excuse. If it's something that you will regret for the rest of your life by not doing, then find a way to make arrangements with your kids and go. This is not something that your husband or anybody else has a say in, this is your mother sick with cancer. Suggest to your husband that you would like him to start the promised counseling while you are gone, as you are sure that there are things he would feel more comfortable speaking one-on-one with the counselor about. Your mother is your focus at the moment, as is natural and as she deserves, but that you will be focusing on your marriage and join him when you get back. You really need him to make a start though, and give you a convincing show that your marriage is worth all the heartache.
You can acknowledge his low self-esteem without letting him get away with using it as his excuse to treat you bad. His behavior is his behavior.
Don't be scared to take the time to see your mother and get "space." If your husband is going to continue to indulge in "nasty habits" he will do it whether you're there or not. The only difference is that you will always regret letting your fear of what he may or may not do keep you from doing what you should do.
You were honest with yourself and me, now do something for yourself and take this step.
 
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