Topic : Relationship Myths

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:02:55 pm
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Think there's something wrong with your marriage because it doesn't go along with one of the common relationship myths that Dr. Phil outlines in "Relationship Rescue"?

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October 16, 2005, 4:04 pm PDT

BOOK : For Women only

I just read a book called  For Women Only      by Shaunti Feldhahn 

I am wondering what others that have read it have felt about its content ? 

I think it should be a women beware, due to its way of poisoning our thinking that 

sapossedly the way men are programmed we are to just except that they are cheaters 

and to just learn to deal with that fact. Feed back would be deeply appreciated. 

 
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October 16, 2005, 9:57 pm PDT

Crossing roads again...

I'm venting in anonymosity because I chose not to talk about my marriage problems with friends and relatives.  They're probably tired of my "crying wolf" when it comes to crying about my marriage.  Last year I filed for divorce because my husband was an alcoholic.  He's been sober for almost a year now.  I canceled my filing for divorce because I thought he's attitude and personality would change.  He's bipolar and was an abuse foster child. He's done very well for himself though (university professor).  However, there are still some parts of him that are "broken".  He does not want children or a child.  I do however, lately , I decided not to have children with him.  I try everyday to do things to find joy in my life but it seems starting a family has been on my mind. To get my thoughts away from such disappointment, I attend a class in a local university in the morning and go to work in the evening.  Lately, I'm getting tired with school and the thoughts of starting a family or not starting a family to be precise, has been on my mind.  I'm driving myself insane!  I'm very sad...
 
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October 17, 2005, 11:27 am PDT

Relationship Myths

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I just read a book called  For Women Only      by Shaunti Feldhahn 

I am wondering what others that have read it have felt about its content ? 

I think it should be a women beware, due to its way of poisoning our thinking that 

sapossedly the way men are programmed we are to just except that they are cheaters 

and to just learn to deal with that fact. Feed back would be deeply appreciated. 

I have not heard of this book but it sounds like it is supporting men and for women to accept that women are to just put up with crap from men? correct me if I am wrong but no way would I reccomend a book like this to any one. There is absolutley no reason for men (or women) to cheat and no reason that the other should accept this as normal and to learn to deal with it. I personally have a wonderful husabnd who has never cheated and has no desire to cheat nor do i. marriage is about two people becoming as one meaning they are partners with love and respect for one another and if the marriage is healthy and good then there will be no need to cheat. And if one does cheat then the other deserves to get upset and and to demand answers and the one cheating most definetly needs to deal with the issue by either getting help eith his selfishness and to own up to his(her) stupidity, and it takes two to make a marriage and if one decides to cheat then there is probably a reason why therefore he/she needs to give an explanation why and the other too needs to work on themselves as there is probably something lacking from both sides. Men (women) are not programmed to cheat, for God did not create them to cheat, he created them to be partners and helpmates for one another, this author needs to get a clue and not be encourage those who are married to a cheater to accept it as the norm, it is not the norm, it is a choice.
 
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October 17, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

I totally agree

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I have not heard of this book but it sounds like it is supporting men and for women to accept that women are to just put up with crap from men? correct me if I am wrong but no way would I reccomend a book like this to any one. There is absolutley no reason for men (or women) to cheat and no reason that the other should accept this as normal and to learn to deal with it. I personally have a wonderful husabnd who has never cheated and has no desire to cheat nor do i. marriage is about two people becoming as one meaning they are partners with love and respect for one another and if the marriage is healthy and good then there will be no need to cheat. And if one does cheat then the other deserves to get upset and and to demand answers and the one cheating most definetly needs to deal with the issue by either getting help eith his selfishness and to own up to his(her) stupidity, and it takes two to make a marriage and if one decides to cheat then there is probably a reason why therefore he/she needs to give an explanation why and the other too needs to work on themselves as there is probably something lacking from both sides. Men (women) are not programmed to cheat, for God did not create them to cheat, he created them to be partners and helpmates for one another, this author needs to get a clue and not be encourage those who are married to a cheater to accept it as the norm, it is not the norm, it is a choice.

Here is the website for this book if anyone cares. I really think us women need to speak up 

and refuse to except this type of behavior. Supposedly this book is Christian oriented I have no clue  

where in the bible it says God programmed men to be this way..  

http://www.4-womenonly.com/forum.aspx 

 
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October 18, 2005, 6:49 pm PDT

unique relationship

Hi I have a situation that is somewhat unusual. Just last november my husband cheated on me with a girl he met on the internet. she is 25 yrs younger than him. In march when me and my boys were on spring break vacation my husband went to Texas and brought this girl back. we lived with my mother-inlaw so this house was hers. He rented out a room for this girl in a house not far from us. Every night he would sneek out when the kids went to sleep and sneek back in before they woke up in the morning. I had no place to go, I had to save my money to move out, so this went on for three months. I finally moved out. My 11 yr old made a request that at the time I could'nt do. He wnted me to meet her. My boys had already met her and they love her. So I knew that I had to met her.What I did'nt count on was that we would become good friends. My sister thinks that I am making a big mistake befriending her, but my kids are very happy. They don't cry at night anymore and we all get along great. 
 
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October 20, 2005, 9:23 am PDT

Five Relationship Deal Breakers???

I have heard Dr. Phil talk about the Five Relationship Deal Breakers but I have never heard him say all five of them. Could someone please tell me what they are? 

  

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October 21, 2005, 3:24 pm PDT

Seperated -- Myth or can I take action?

I have already finished half of Dr. Phil's Relationship Rescue book.  I gave a copy to my husband of 16 1/2 years and now we are separated.  So far, I have found this book to be amazingly accurate. He is with is mom but plans on gettng an apartment -- thus the urgency of giving him the book.   I posted part of this on the DIVORCED section of these boards -- but it doesn't quite apply and didn't see anywhere my topic might fit. 

   

My husband has been out of the house 2 1/2 months now. We see each alot on account fo our two young teen children and people say we don't act "seperated".   Problems came out in the open a year ago -- but although I put "bandaids" on it -- neither one of us did anything to fix it although I suggested counseling but he said no.  

   

I am in counseling now since he has left.  I am hopeful -- as I honestly believe our marriage can be fixed -- he doesn't know if he wants to fix it.  If he would read this book -- he would understand that the reasons he gave me for leaving are not abnormal!!!!  

   

How do I go about fixing areas of intimacy that I know are partly my doing when he isn't around for me to try?   I was raised hearing "If sex was all that there was to a marriage your dad and I wouldn't have one"  I understand now why it was said and I did bring sexual hang-ups into the marriage.  He has his own sexual issues as well -- but again -- how to I fix it if I have been told by others that he has to make the first move.  If I come on too strong I'll scare him away? 

   

Do I wait patiently for him to come around giving him the space he wants? I've been told that he is the one who left now I must move forward and it is up to him to make all the moves. 

   

Is  it wrong to share once again my deep feelings of love and share my part of the responsibilty in where we are at?  I have already done that once (and twice)?   Again -- I have been told to back off. 

   

Any comments -- especially from male readers would be so appreciated.  Thanks.   

   

I pray inceasingly for deliverance and full restortation of my marriage -- he is a good man.  He says I am a good woman, but ... 

 
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October 22, 2005, 6:21 am PDT

How are you?

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I tried to post on this board and it ended up in the Divorce section somehow...  So here goes - again!  Relationship Myth:  Good marriages last... Five years ago my husband's attitude and behavior changed dramatically after a lengthy business trip requiring several weeks away from me and our children.  No, he did not have an affair (his sex drive decreased gradually over these years), he simply had a taste of freedom and loved it.  He rarely ever travelled on business before this.  We recently separated after he refused to seek counseling either as a couple or on his own.  During our 23 year marriage, we rarely argued and never fought.  He says he no longer loves me and feels he's missing out on something by being tied to me, yet still tries to "share" his travels, social schedule, etc. with me.  I discourage this lately.  He is still a sloppy dresser and looks unkempt so he obviously isn't trying to impress another woman.  He has grown a mustache and goatee thing.  After 10 weeks apart, my life is finally coming together and I doubt I would take him back, but I haven't shut the door on that option just yet.  A part of me still loves him.  There is no other woman involved - he just wants the freedom to do whatever he wants (golf, roller skating, partying, skiing, etc.) whenever he wants.  (He did all these things before but not with my approval.) He no longer has to feel guilty about leaving me at home while he pursues his interests and has to answer to no one now.  He still supports us financially and sees our daughter (13) fairly often.  Our son (he's 19) could care less about his dad.  I have lost a lot of respect for my husband, but over time I am making a new life for myself.  I recently got a part-time job I really like and enjoy the company of some wonderful friends.  My husband has no friends he can talk to, only 3 meddling sisters who encouraged him to leave me if he was unhappy.  His two other siblings absolutely disapprove of his behavior and have told him so.  Is there anyone else who has experienced this with their hubby?  Is there any hope he might come to his senses?  I don't intend to grow old alone, but don't want to give up on a 28 year relationship and then regret it.  Apparently many men do not feel THEY have to honour their wedding vows these days.  I never imagined my husband could be so selfish as to sacrifice everyone else's happiness for his own.  I thought he was a better person than that.  People we know simply cannot believe we have separated because we had such a wonderful marriage.  They also can't believe that he could ever do such a thing to us.  I'd love to hear from other wives who've survived this ordeal. 

I just read your post and although you wrote it back in July -- I can identify with it so much!  My husband left me the 4th of August.  In the past two half months I have seen areas that I probably contributed to our relationship issues -- but I can confidently say that he has alwasy know I loved him.  He also told me that he hasn't loved me for several years -- all we have in common is the children and my faith life.  He has however, been decent in sharing with some of the running with the kids (the go to catholic school and have no buses) and giving me money to cover 1/2 tuition, child maintenance and half the cc bills (financially even with both working it has always been week to week).  Our children are 15 & 12 1/2.  I too do not want to be divorced or a single parent.  I didn't choose that for myself and I should be allowed a say.  We see each other frequently as his family as become my family (I have none of my own living here) and everything is civil..  I like you -- am keeping the doors open and prayng for a miracle! 

  

How are you doing?  Please feel free to email. gallo100358@yahoo.com 

  

  

 

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October 22, 2005, 12:11 pm PDT

Relationship Myths

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Hi I have a situation that is somewhat unusual. Just last november my husband cheated on me with a girl he met on the internet. she is 25 yrs younger than him. In march when me and my boys were on spring break vacation my husband went to Texas and brought this girl back. we lived with my mother-inlaw so this house was hers. He rented out a room for this girl in a house not far from us. Every night he would sneek out when the kids went to sleep and sneek back in before they woke up in the morning. I had no place to go, I had to save my money to move out, so this went on for three months. I finally moved out. My 11 yr old made a request that at the time I could'nt do. He wnted me to meet her. My boys had already met her and they love her. So I knew that I had to met her.What I did'nt count on was that we would become good friends. My sister thinks that I am making a big mistake befriending her, but my kids are very happy. They don't cry at night anymore and we all get along great. 
Good for you!  I am so impressed that you were able to rise above your hurt and jealousy and do what was best for your kids!  Bravo!
 

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October 22, 2005, 12:27 pm PDT

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During a heated argument yesterday, I told my husband to get out and that I wanted a divorce. He responded with "go to hell." We are Christians, and he has never spoken to me like that. In fact, no one has ever told me that. I'd also never told him to get out. He apologized but added that he wouldn't have said that had I not told him to get out and that I wanted a divorce. He said what I said was just as bad, if not worse than him telling me to go to hell. I disagree. We had a 3 hour talk about it last night, and I had hoped that he would really seek my forgiveness. I don't want him to grovel, but I believe that if you tell the person you love the most in the world to go to hell, that you should say more than a simple I'm sorry. 

  

He said that I hurt him as well, and I apologized. He was especially angry b/c I walked out of our bedroom while he was talking yesterday a.m. to wake our children up for school. He said I walked out in mid-sentence which really upsets him. I told him that I didn't hear him. I really didn't b/c my mind was focused on getting our children ready, and I didn't want them to be late for school. When he realized that I had gone to wake them up, he came into their room yelling at me and flailing his arms. I've told him time and time again that we shouldn't argue in front of the children, but he continues to do that and also criticizes me in front of them. After we got back to our room, I was so angry w/him that I told him I wanted a divorce. That's when he told me to go to hell. 

  

I am devastated. My heart is broken, and I feel like he has betrayed me, almost as if he had cheated on me. I don't know what to do. I know I need to forgive him, but I just wish he showed more remorse.  

  

  

You were the one who brought the children into the fight. You could have heard him out and then told him that it was time to wake the children-maybe even agreed to discuss the issue again when the kids were off to school. 

  

You were also the one who started with unfair fight tactics.  Escalating a discussion into a threat of divorce (in front of your children!) is guaranteed to cause the discussion to degenerate into anger.  His response isn't surprising at all.  

  

This sounded to me like a discussion you really couldn't face. The fact that you involved your children to avoid it is disgusting. 

 

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