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Topic : 12/20 Marry Me or Else!

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Created on : Friday, September 22, 2006, 12:20:09 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/26/06) It’s do or die for the men today, as their partners tell them to either walk down the aisle or walk the highway! Tony and Mary have dated for 12 years, and have been engaged for eight. Mary wants to set a wedding date, but Tony says even after all these years, he’s not ready and still feels pressured to tie the knot. Does Tony fear getting married or getting married to Mary? Then, Rosanna has been dating her boyfriend, Dennis, for almost five years and says she’s tired of “playing house.” Dennis maintains that he told Rosanna from the start he didn’t want to get married. Should they just throw in the towel and move on? Plus, Robin shares some relationship tips, and the women finally take a stand and issue ultimatums for their men! Join the discussion.

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September 26, 2006, 3:28 pm PDT

Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get THe Milk For Free?

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If you have to ask the question, you don't want to know the answer-- but if you have to ask the question, you probably already do know the answer.  He doesn't want to marry you.  Take care of yourself and be on your own for awhile-- and don't let the next relationship drag for 13 more years.  Consider it the most important lesson you will have ever learned.

Yeah, it's an old saying, but it says it all. What man  will want to marry a  woman when he can get his clothes washed, home cleaned, dinner cooked and if there are kids, baby-sat? Wake up, please, and know that no man will marry a woman that lives with him. How many times do we hear the story of the guy that leaves a woman after living together for 10 or more years, and marries another one?

 

Believe me, kick him to the curb, or move out if it's his house, and watch how fast that proposal will come. And if it doesn't, move on......

 

 

 
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September 26, 2006, 3:32 pm PDT

one step in front fo the other

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Ok then. Im in the same situation as most of these girls. So then, How do I give him an ultimatium? Move in with a friend? Where would I go? That just seems so scary. I want to get married but I wouldnt know what to do to prove that I could go on witout him if he didnt marry me.

It shocks me to think you may be serious. How do y ou go on living when a man doesn't want to marry you?

 

Do you have a job? Money of your own? Friends who will stand by you? A family? A cheap apartment you can find, rent and have fun fixing up? If not, get them.

 

Marriage is not a goal.  How do you show you can live without him if he says no? How do men live without women when THEY say no? They put one foot in front of the other and move on.

 

Sure, it's scary. Winning a million dollars can be scary. Getting a great job can be scary. Next year, if you are lucky enough to be alive, you can be having a great time doing all the above, or you can still be miserable and stuck with a man who loves you just enough for his own needs but not enough for yours. Your choice.

 
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September 26, 2006, 3:33 pm PDT

What is the big deal?

I don't understand the big deal about marriage. If you love someone enough to want to marry them why would you leave them because they won't marry you. My fiance and I have been together for 6 years and yes I want to marry him, but I'm not going to leave him because we haven't gotten around to it yet. I love him, I don't feel like there is anyone else for me. He has loved through thick and thin, and raised my son as his own. We now have a child together and we are planning to get married on our 6 year anniversary this Dec., but if it doesn't happen  oh well. You shouldn't let other people pressure you into something that isn't right for you. They are not the ones that are getting married or living in your shoes.
 
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September 26, 2006, 3:37 pm PDT

My worst nightmare

Mary is my worst nightmare. I am 25 and just out of a 5 year relationship for this very reason. I am so thankful that I got out now instead of in 12 years! How could she let him ruin her dreams of having children? It brought tears to my eyes thinking about the fact that her entire 30's were wasted. That was the time she should have been starting a family. Tony is a jerk, hanging marriage over her head like a carrot in front of a horse. He is selfish... of course he wants to stay single! He is 58 for God's sake! I'm not saying it is all his fault, she did put up with it for 8 years, but if he didn't want to marry her then why did he propose!?!?!? She needs to cut her losses NOW, and find a man that will be thrilled to marry a cute, smart lady like her! Who wants to have to beg someone to marry them!?!?!? Ever heard the saying, "He's just not that into you?"..... come on Mary, GET OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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September 26, 2006, 3:39 pm PDT

Married Him or Anyone

That's it....They want to get married....WHY DO THEY WANT TO MARRY THESE LOSERS? Sounds like they want to get married, but it doesn't seem to matter who they marry!!!
 
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September 26, 2006, 3:40 pm PDT

Let him go

Hello,

I was in this same situation.  I was with a man for 5 years, we often spoke of marriage...he was not afraid to talk about it and fantasize with me about it, but would not follow through.  I finally told him that he had 3 months to make a decision about marriage and then I would have to move on with my life.  He did not propose and I have moved on.  In retrospect, I really wish I had made my choice much sooner...now I am almost 40 with no kids and am pursuing having a baby alone because of my age.  So ladies....get out while you can.  It is unloving to expect/demand something of someone that they are not capable of giving. 

 
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September 26, 2006, 3:44 pm PDT

09/26 Marry Me or Else!

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I have been with the man that I live with for three years...after our first 6 months together he cheated on me.  I took him back and we have had a rocky road since then because I don't trust him.  I find myself checking up on him all the time and that is pretty miserable but I can't seem to help myself.  He is very moody- he could be in agreat mood and very social 1 day and the next be hateful and ready to split over the littlest argument.  He was married before and has recently told me he is not sure if he will ever marry again and is unsure of whether or not he wants children.  I have told him from day 1 I want to do things in order get married, buy a house, have a child.  I am 27, he is 31 and we live as if we are married now.  I know I have painted a bad picture but there are good qualities too...he makes me laugh, we enjoy the outdoors, we like to travel and he is a great "uncle" to my nieces - which is why I never thought kids would ever be an issue.  I am confused and hurt because I have been a very understanding, caring, "let's work it out" kind of girlfriend that I don't know why he doesn't want to marry me.  My feelings are hurt...I want him to want to marry me...I want him to be as excited at the thought as I am...am I crazy?
Why are you putting your love for him before your love for yourself and your dreams? You are still young, get out now or you will be in the same situation as Mary. Before you know it your 20's and 30's will be gone and you will not be able to have kids. Poof! What you wanted for your life is unattainable! Do you really want a life like that?!?!?
 
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September 26, 2006, 3:45 pm PDT

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What is your hurry to get married?????

The wedding and marriage is suppose to be special.

We cannot pressure our men to get married just because we want to.

They have to want to make the commitment.  If they are not ready, respect that.

Do you want to live happy or have your husband regretful and unhappy for the rest of your married life??

I have been with the same man for 7 yrs. and have 3 children. 

I will wait my whole life for my man to say,"Lets Get Married"

He respects that!

I know that I will get to walk down that isle soon and we will both be happy.

 

Is it the fact of planning the whole occastion or actually living as a family and do all the house playing role?  What is the hurry?????

 
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September 26, 2006, 3:47 pm PDT

Don't get suckered

I can't believe that Tony is thinking of getting suckered for a third time.  What does it take to get through to him?  Here is what you get after marriage:

 

1. "I am just not in the mood for sex."

2. "Don't forget that half of everything is mine."

3. "You'll never see the kids if you leave."

 

Today's show should have started with a clip from the show that Dr. Phil did where the women were explaining to their husbands how oral sex was okay before the wedding, but not anymore.

 

There is no upside to a man getting married.  If Tony is worried that she will leave if he doesn't get married, then he should keep in mind that marriage does nothing but represent a transfer of his wealth to her.  She can leave him just as easily after the wedding as she can now.  The only difference is the size of the cheque.

 

 
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September 26, 2006, 3:47 pm PDT

09/26 Marry Me or Else!

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Please excuse me for having to be the Male Pig on this one, but, men have a much different view on marriage than women. For instance, women seem to strive for it. It's like they NEED the conformation of marriage. Men on the other hand are much more content with keeping their relationship a good one. Why ruin a good thing, right?  Please dont get me wrong, I look forward to marriage...but if a women were to pressure me into it, I couldn't be with her. She obviously doesnt care who she is married to...she just wants to be married.
 Women, please DO NOT tell your men to marry you or hit the pavement. Men cant be pushed into doing something, because he will regrett it and you will have no idea why or what is going on.
I think you made a valid point. Men have a different view of marraige.  Women have been raised to define themselves by the men they are with, the wedding they plan, and the body parts they have. Imagine what we could do in one generation if we chose to raise our daughters by teaching them about self respect!!!
 
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