Quote From: susanashe
Why oh WHY would these women, or any for that matter, want to marry someone that had made it plain they don't want to get married? I would bet anything that it isn't that these men don't want to get married at all, they just don't want to marry that particular woman!
Case in point here - I was 45 and had been seeing someone for three years, in October of our 3rd year I told him flat out that if I didn't see a ring under the tree at Xmas then we were done. We didn't live together mainly because I had my own home and he didn't yet and was till renting and I wasn't about to give up my home without a marriage certificate. So anyway, fast forward to Xmas morning that year. No ring. So I didn't say a word, we went on about our morning and when it came time to get ready to go to is parents for dinner with them I just sat on the couch watching TV as he took a shower and got dressed and ready to go. He finally noticed I was still in my sleep clothes and he asked me when I was going to start getting ready to go. I just simply said oh, I forgot, I have one more present for you - its on the front porch, go take a look. So he got all excited and he went to the front porch only to find a box of some of his clothes and shaving stuff he had kept at my house, all boxed up and wrapped like a real Xmas gift. After he opened it he came back in and looked at me kind of funny while I was still calmly sitting on the couch. I didn't even look up from the TV while I reminded him of what I had said in October about having a ring and setting a date and he said yeah I remember that conversation. I said, well, did you think I was kidding ? Well, I wasn't. So since there was no ring and no date set, then we are done ! See ya - take your box of crap and get out of my home! I am DONE! He left but didn't take me seriously til I refused to take any more of his phone calls over the next few weeks. We finally ran into each other and talked til the wee hours of the morning and I told him once again, that I was serious - no ring after 3 years and I was moving on, period. As a matter of fact I had started dating again by New Years Eve - a week after I told him to get away from me.
We started seeing each other again and I let the ring issue drop - but then on Valentines day he had me meet him for dinner at our favorite place and afterwards we got in his truck and went to a jewelers and he told me to pick out any ring I wanted. So I got a gorgeous 2 carat marquise solitaire and he did the whole getting on one knee and all that stuff. He was working out of town at the time during the week mostly and was just home that one nite to propose to me on Valentines Day - then he left the next morning and drove the two hours back to his work saying he would see me on Saturday morning when he got home from work for the weekend. I went to work the next day wearing my ring and showing it to my girlfriends but then I realized during the day that after all the trouble it took to get that to finally happen, did I REALLY want it anymore ? I decided the answer was NO ! I left work that day and went to see the jeweler who was a good friend of mine and my long time jeweler for everything and I gave him the ring back and told him to send the refund back to my "fiance" - by the time my now ex fiance - (though he didn't know it yet) got home on Saturday he got his mail and found the refund check from the store and tried to call me - I had changed my number to another unlisted one after I took the ring back. So he drove over to my house and asked me what was going on - I told him I had decided that he was too late in the ring and proposal and I really didn't want it anymore. Then I told him goodbye and good luck and see ya ! Shut the door and never looked back. Best thing I ever did. Bottom line is if a guy says he doesn't want to get married, especially at the start of a relationship, then say SEE YA then and there.
Funny thing is that he ended up meeting some low life welfare whore who had a kid who didn't even know who out of three men was the father and he moved her in within a month of me dumping him - and then married her within 9 months after SHE showed up at his workplace (he was working back in town by that time) in a WEDDING dress no less and her 3 year old daughter saying DADDY DADDY and dressed in a little white dress too - and they got married, ended up getting in a huge fight the same nite as their wedding and she tore up the marriage license in a fit of drunken rage - (I TOLD you she was white trash!) - and they stayed married for a whole 9 months - he came home one nite from work to find a moving truck and her moving EVERYTHING out of HIS house - all of the furniture that was HIS she was taking that too - and a cop was there and forced HIM to leave til she was done cleaning him out down to his plates and pots and pans. So, in 9 months, she got him to adopt her bastard kid since no other man would claim her - she took all of his stuff, she had NOTHING when they met, she was 30 and living with her parents, and she took the brand new truck that he had bought for her. When they got divorced she got half of his pension, child support for the bastard kid and kept the new truck and he had to finish paying for it AND she also got spousal support because she claimed that by marrying him she had lost her earning power. Hell, she hadn't been working when they met - she was on WELFARE - but she got 1000 in spousal support and 500 in child support a month. Not a bad deal for a welfare drunk mother who was married for a little over 9 months ! he actually showed up on my door step after she left him and when I answered the door I just looked at him and said you have GOT to be kidding ??? And I told him to go away again and leave me alone and I shut the door and never looked back. Any other man I have ever dated is welcome in my home any time but not him ! I thank GOD every day of my life since him that I took the ring back and dumped him. He is now, last I heard from a friend of his who I date occasionally, he is now with another white trash welfare women and living in a dump ! Glad he got what he deserved
You know what? I none of this post do you actually sound well ajusted and happy with your decisions or anything. Absolutly none of it!