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Created on : Friday, September 22, 2006, 12:21:33 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/27/06) Parents, you might be your kids' drug dealer. They could be getting high from products in your pantry, under your sink, or in your medicine cabinet. Dana says her 16-year-old son, Josh, has been experimenting with over-the-counter drugs. She says he's downed bottles of NyQuil, packs of cold pills and an entire bottle of mouthwash -- all in an effort to get high. See what drastic measures she took to bring Josh to the show. Then, 21-year-old Christina says she can't start her day without taking half a bottle of cough medicine. Her four-year addiction to robo-tripping is spiraling so far out of control, she fears her days are numbered. What will it take for Christina to kick her habit? Plus, a mom whose son died from an overdose of over-the-counter drugs shares her tragic story.  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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September 27, 2006, 3:24 pm PDT

weird

This is so bizarre(sp)!!!!  I have never heard of this, and who the hell would think of this?  Of course, I have to say I may know one or two addicts and I just have no patience. None. Listening to that girl slur her words on the video just irritated me. I have never understood the appeal of being drunk or high. I have been drunk before and all it does is make you feel weird and not yourself and you have no control and then you get sick. Can't understand why anyone finds that fun.
 
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September 27, 2006, 3:31 pm PDT

CHEAP AND RELIABLE DRUG TESTS FOR PARENTS?????

AS THE MOTHER OF A CHILD WHO IS DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THOSE "CHEAP" DRUG TESTS ARE.  MY SON AND I ATTENDED A TREATMENT PROGRAM THAT GAVE ME A WEB SITE WHERE I COULD FIND DRUG TESTS FOR MARIJUANA ONLY FOR $2.00 A POP BUT THE ONLY DRUG TESTS I COULD FIND THAT TESTED FOR OTHER DRUGS WAS AT WALGREEN'S AND COST $29.99 EACH.  THAT IS NOT CHEAP TO A WIDOW HAVING BEEN LEFT WITH 2 YOUNG CHILDREN.  DID ANY OF YOU HEAR HIM TELL THAT POOR WOMAN HE WAS SO MEAN TO WHERE SHE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THESE TESTS TO TEST HIME "EVERY DAY FOR FOUR YEARS" THAT WAS CHEAP??

 

 
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September 27, 2006, 3:31 pm PDT

09/27 Generation Rx

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I am not dumb enough to think that ONLY the kids lacking attention turn to drugs. I said "mainly" and I stand by that. There will always be exceptions to every rule. I, too, am raising two kids and both have very different coping skills. One is beautiful (a model), bright, compassionate and atheletic YET she doesn't like herself very much and internalizes everything. The younger one is male, very bright, compassionate and lacking in physical skill, yet he's so self-confident and lights up a room with his presence. BOTH are being raised in this nurturing household, yet both are very different in their means of coping with problems.

 

Sorry, but the apple usually DOES fall close to the tree. Again, there are exceptions, but as a teacher 99.9% of the troubled kids had TROUBLED parents who came in to save them from their detentions. All we had to do is to look at the parent and we could understand CLEARLY why little Johnny was so mixed up.

Two friends. One comes froma broken home where the parents fought all the time, threw things at each other, well , kind of like that couple in the Dr. Phil house.  Parents finally divorced. Unfortunately they did not just divorce each other, they pretty much divorced the kids. Other girl has two parents that adore her, she is an only child, given so much attention and love, gets to go to private school all the way through high school.  First girl, although life is not perfect and gets pregnant at 20, still puts herself through college and graduates while being a single mom and the second girl is now in jail, waiting to be sentenced to prison for the second time and is a meth addict.  Sometimes you never can tell.

 
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September 27, 2006, 3:33 pm PDT

09/27 Generation Rx

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I only caught the tail end of the show today but all of the lying and the attitudes of the boys really hit home with me. Currently my 21 year old (who is emotionally about 14) has been told to leave the house AGAIN, as of last night. We have been through so much with him in the past year, and hearing Dr. Phils words "you are not dealing with him, but his drug induced mind" is finally starting to sink in. We thought we were on the upword swing, after he just got out of jail for 15 days for an old warrent he could have taken care of with 8 hours of community service. To sum it all up, we finally found proof that he was doing cocaine, he stole 3 checks out of my desk drawer and wrote over $1,000 on them for drugs. Everyone told us to arrest him, but when it came down to it, we just could not do it. After finding proof, everything else added up...the sniffles, blowing nose all the time, the cards he used to cut up the cocaine laying around on his dresser, the cold medicine, the over use of beer. We tried helping, they would only commit him to an out patient clinic which was only 1 day a week for 2 hours. We do not have the money to place him in a rehab center, or a "Dr. Phil" to bail us out. I fear he will remain on this path and we will find him in prison or worse yet, dead. I feel hurt, mad, like my heart is broken. Right now my mind is telling me to be angry with him (something I havent really tried yet) not to talk to him, to basically ignore his needs like he does ours. My heart tells me "what if" what if you ignore him and he dies, how will you live with yourself. How can he face his problems when he isn't thinking clearly. He ran 5 credit cards up to 12,000 dollars, took a loan out for a motorcycle for 4,000. He has no money, works right now for $9 an hour. "where will he live, what will he eat, how will he survive" the mother in me cried out. I have no clue what to do, or what to think anymore. I'm walking around in a daze

 

 

I feel like I was reliving life with my son when I read your words.  My son died of a drug overdose 2 days after his 21st birthday in 2003.  I know that it is hard not to enable him as a mom but you must not let this continue.  Finally to protect my things and my other daughters I forced him out.  He didn't live in his car too long before he sought help.  Since he was over 18 and seeking help himself DASA paid for his inpatient stay (divisionof alcohol and substance abuse) go to the DASA home page and see if someplace in your area may take him http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/dasa/ if he wants to go.  My son completed a 4 week stay and then transitioned to a half way house for a few weeks until he relapsed and died.  My thoughts are with you and your son, I hope that he accepts help.

 
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September 27, 2006, 3:35 pm PDT

09/27 Generation Rx

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My 19 year old daughter is recovering from meth addiction.  She knows that she is responsible for her troubles but still tries to blame me.   Her mood swings are making me crazy.  Sometimes she is so much fun to be around but can turn on me in a heartbeat.  Is this normal?
Seems normal. My best friend is a meth addict and the same way.   But she has always been that way. Maybe it is not the drugs, bu tjust a certain personality that is attracted to that drug.
 
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September 27, 2006, 3:38 pm PDT

Son's drug use

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I only caught the tail end of the show today but all of the lying and the attitudes of the boys really hit home with me. Currently my 21 year old (who is emotionally about 14) has been told to leave the house AGAIN, as of last night. We have been through so much with him in the past year, and hearing Dr. Phils words "you are not dealing with him, but his drug induced mind" is finally starting to sink in. We thought we were on the upword swing, after he just got out of jail for 15 days for an old warrent he could have taken care of with 8 hours of community service. To sum it all up, we finally found proof that he was doing cocaine, he stole 3 checks out of my desk drawer and wrote over $1,000 on them for drugs. Everyone told us to arrest him, but when it came down to it, we just could not do it. After finding proof, everything else added up...the sniffles, blowing nose all the time, the cards he used to cut up the cocaine laying around on his dresser, the cold medicine, the over use of beer. We tried helping, they would only commit him to an out patient clinic which was only 1 day a week for 2 hours. We do not have the money to place him in a rehab center, or a "Dr. Phil" to bail us out. I fear he will remain on this path and we will find him in prison or worse yet, dead. I feel hurt, mad, like my heart is broken. Right now my mind is telling me to be angry with him (something I havent really tried yet) not to talk to him, to basically ignore his needs like he does ours. My heart tells me "what if" what if you ignore him and he dies, how will you live with yourself. How can he face his problems when he isn't thinking clearly. He ran 5 credit cards up to 12,000 dollars, took a loan out for a motorcycle for 4,000. He has no money, works right now for $9 an hour. "where will he live, what will he eat, how will he survive" the mother in me cried out. I have no clue what to do, or what to think anymore. I'm walking around in a daze
It is understandable that you want to help your son, you are hoping and praying that he will change- but he isn’t showing any signs of changing at this point. He has to want to change. Ask yourself this: why would he want anything to change when he can take whatever he wants from you at any time with little to no effort, and have virtually no consequences? Be honest with yourself when you answer that. I know the mother in you loves your son very much, but this man is robbing you and he will continue to do so until something drastic happens. Jail could be the best thing that ever happened to this young man- there is no cocaine there, no person to steal money from- a good place to dry out. Is this what you want for your son? No, of course not-- but he isn’t making rational choices at this time, and he should be held responsible according to the law.
 
 
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September 27, 2006, 3:57 pm PDT

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I feel like I was reliving life with my son when I read your words.  My son died of a drug overdose 2 days after his 21st birthday in 2003.  I know that it is hard not to enable him as a mom but you must not let this continue.  Finally to protect my things and my other daughters I forced him out.  He didn't live in his car too long before he sought help.  Since he was over 18 and seeking help himself DASA paid for his inpatient stay (divisionof alcohol and substance abuse) go to the DASA home page and see if someplace in your area may take him http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/dasa/ if he wants to go.  My son completed a 4 week stay and then transitioned to a half way house for a few weeks until he relapsed and died.  My thoughts are with you and your son, I hope that he accepts help.

Thank you for your kind words, I'm so sorry for your pain....I cannot even imagine how you must feel! I keep telling myself that it could be worse and I know this time I have to be strong for his sake and not let him back in the house because I have a 15 year old seeing everything his brother is doing.
 
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September 27, 2006, 4:06 pm PDT

The big fuss

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I live in a suburb of a big city, and it is devistating what these kids are doing.  Not only kids but we also have a 20 yr old who almost died from taking "too much" Nyquil.  To top it off the 20 yr old hangs with 15 yr old kids and gets them doing this ****.  Huffing paint, "Skittles", cough medicine, allergy pills..whatever they can get their grubby hands on.  Oh to top it off, they steal it from the local grocery store.

 

Dr. Phil I am so glad you are doing this story because when I start to talk about this with other adults, they are clueless and shocked

 

Worried About Our Kids in The Suburbs

I have to agree with other posters who don't like the disease concept of addiction.  I have had a lot of experience with many substances and have to say that it was a choice.  Just like I made the choice to use, I made the choice to stop when I got sick of alienating those around me.  Drinking cough syrup is plain disturbing and I truly believe that those who do such a thing have larger problems then just the drug use.  However, I live in a very liberal part of the country and I have to say that finding out a child has smoked pot is not a good reason to make a huge deal.  Yes, it gets in the way of things for some adults and children...but many/most people have come across marijuana during youth, you cannot overdose on it, and I would dare say that it is most likely not the root of any problem.    I also do not agree with Dr. Phil saying that the young boy on there has a condition such as a "tumor" or other condition that makes him unable to see what he is doing.  That is a load of BS.  That boy is old enough to see what he is doing and will stop with the proper guidance.   All I can say in conclusion is that the war on drugs in america has obviously failed and its time to try a new approach and outlook. 
 
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September 27, 2006, 4:16 pm PDT

THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR DEATH

ONLY A WEEK AGO, I accidently overdosed on prescription sleeping pills.  The bottle was right next to my bed, and I took nearly the entire bottle during the night without consciously realizing it.  If my husband had not found me having a seizure and called 911, I would be dead today.  I am 32, but I never would have thought that something like that could have happened to me.  People -- young people in particular -- often think of their deaths abstractly (I certainly did); but having now been on the brink of death myself, I can guarantee that there are no words to describe how traumatizing it is.  Several days after this incident, I found myself looking around in stores, thinking, "I could be lying in a coffin right now, and none of these people would know it; the world would be going on as usual, but I would not be in it."  THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR DEATH.  I hope to God those young people can find the strength and help to GET OFF drugs IMMEDIATELY.  DEATH IS A VERY REAL SIDE EFFECT AND THERE ARE NO SECOND CHANCES!!   I thank God that I am still alive and am strong enough now to realize that DRUGS WERE NOT THE ANSWER.  Having insomnia (or worse) is better than being six feet under.  P.S.  Please don't misunderstand me -- I know that there is a time and a place for therapeutic drugs, and that in the proper circumstances, with professional care,  they can save lives and be invaluable -- but I am specifically addressing the abuse of drugs, as was featured on today's show. 
 
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September 27, 2006, 4:23 pm PDT

Been there and still there

I am 24 this is nothing new.  When I was 14 I went to what the news papers called a pill party.  We dumped all the medications we could find in a bowl and took handfuls.  One person broke his leg trying to fly and another died on the front lawn.  Me I fell asleep on the bus for 4 hours.  We flipped a car while we were on Coriseden HBP cough and cold (CCC).  I stopped all of the drugs at 16 and joined the navy at 17.  But to this day I think about doing it again to get away from all the pain.  I was clinically depressed 2 years ago and probably still am I have been diagnosed with over 20 medical problems.  I cant live a normal life.  I o to the doctor and he gives me pain killers.  I cant even get them filled.  If I do I afraid Ill loose everything I have worked so hard for.  I almost went back to it last year when I seperated from my x-fience.  But I couldn't since I got out of the navy I have even more drug test.  I wish I could go back and be there everyday if it would get rid of the pain.  There is always a deeper issue that gets them to do this me I was always in physical pain.  I'm not saying it the parents fault normally the kid just doesn't no how to deal with the something and they turn to drugs.  To this day my parent don't know what I did.  The scary part of that is they have an eight year old.  But I know what to watch for in my brother and Ill insure he doesn't do the crap I did. 
 
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