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Created on : Friday, September 22, 2006, 12:21:33 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/27/06) Parents, you might be your kids' drug dealer. They could be getting high from products in your pantry, under your sink, or in your medicine cabinet. Dana says her 16-year-old son, Josh, has been experimenting with over-the-counter drugs. She says he's downed bottles of NyQuil, packs of cold pills and an entire bottle of mouthwash -- all in an effort to get high. See what drastic measures she took to bring Josh to the show. Then, 21-year-old Christina says she can't start her day without taking half a bottle of cough medicine. Her four-year addiction to robo-tripping is spiraling so far out of control, she fears her days are numbered. What will it take for Christina to kick her habit? Plus, a mom whose son died from an overdose of over-the-counter drugs shares her tragic story.  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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October 1, 2006, 7:16 pm PDT

"they don't call it dope for nothing".

I really like the statement "they don't call it dope for nothing".

 

I say this in regard to the decisions one will make while on dope. I remember once flying from Miami to NYC with a pound of pot in my backpack  (all for my personal use) and I gave it not a worry. As an obvious hippie I once drove through Texas with some pot hidden in my car and I again gave it little concern, other than to hide it. I think the penalty for pot in Texas at the time was something like life imprisonment. 

 

As I say: "they don't call it dope for nothing".

 

 

 
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October 1, 2006, 8:34 pm PDT

Let us not go overboard.......

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Do you consider vitamins candy?

 

Ever hear about iron supplement toxicity in children? It can prove FATAL.

All of the fat soluble vitamins are toxic in excessive amounts. (Vitamins A, D, K).

 

IF vitamins aren't "medicine" what are they? Are they--especially the MULTI versions, benign enough that you would have no discomfort offering the entire package of (chewable, children's) vitamins to a child for snacking at will? Can a young child tell the difference between actual gummie bear candy and vitamins packaged as candy? Should they be expected to know the difference?

 

Try reading the label. See if it advocates/allows minimal supervision regarding a child's access to the product.

 

Again, I ask, what message is being given when Medicines are packaged FOR children AS candy?

We all know why they put the flavorings/shapes into those vitamins.  Next, you will be launching attacks on the drug companies for the flavorings they put in your childs prescription meds so it will taste better for them.

 

Let's keep this in perspective.....it is a VERY serious and dangerous problem.  But we do NOT need to go running blindly bannning everything in sight.

 

 

If you take notice what our children are becoming addicted to has very little to do with the taste and the cute animal figures!!!!!!..............It is the high they getting from it........they care very little for what it taste like!!!!

 
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October 1, 2006, 10:44 pm PDT

"they don't call it dope for nothing" 2

I almost lost my hand to alcohol (still have limited usage), and still suffer from a weakened ankle 30 years after twisting it while trying to play a sport while stoned.

 

The last time I used pot (I had an intentional two week relapse about 25 years ago), I was curled up on the shower floor as the warm water rained down on me. I began thinking if I didn't get up and turn the shower off I would probably fall asleep, and I wasn't sure I would know when the water turned cold and if in fact I would not be killing myself from hypothermia. It was with great effort I made myself rise enough to turn the water off. At about that point I realized it was time to get out of that game and the next day headed home. I'm not sure I would have won the battle without the kindness of my parents.

 

 

 
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October 2, 2006, 8:23 am PDT

re: Privileges

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Hi sept. What happens if you tell him to try and get high off of some good grades or earn the right to hang out with his friend by some good grades? Many feel school is the easiest  job one could have, but he has to stay in the game or catch-up becomes less likely.

 

Since he doesn't want you to be fake with him seems to me you have the go ahead to get down and be real with him. As for the anxiety disorder, he apparently doesn't have any anxiety about confronting you, or going over to see a friend.

 

As for your son having nothing left: what he has left is the right to earn his privileges and your trust.

 

In any event thanks for sharing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He does fantastic at school! He has been an honor roll student for as long as I can remember. I think the big issue him and i are dealing with right now is who he can and cannot hang around. For some reason he just doesn't get it. He claims his "friends" weren't doing drugs. I've told him I don't care, for some reason when he was hanging with them he was using.  His friends claim they knew he was getting high and I have told each and every one of them if they really cared they wold have told me. Not one of them said they were sorry for not saying anything. He doesnt repsect me right now and until he does he will not get any privileges from me.
 
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October 2, 2006, 8:25 am PDT

Shame on me?

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One of the things that struck me was how Colleen seemed to blame the school for her son skipping school for 17 days and not telling her.  I have bad news for her, kids know how to delete messages from the answering machine.  I spent a year in the public schools and found many parents like Colleen, who seem to be oblivious to what's happening with their children.  Some do not appear to want to be parents.  I called one father who had no idea his son was in a gang.  Parents need to wake up!  The schools can't raise your kids, you have to know what's going on.  Not only does it hurt your child, but it frustrates teachers and drives them out of the schools.  I left the schools as much for the poor pay as for the lack of help from parents.  Parents, you have to get involved!

I don't know what show you were watching, but I certainly did NOT blame Stephen's school for him skipping 17 consecutive days.  I blame them for not calling me until the 17th day so I could monitor this situation more closely.

 

Stephen's school is 2 blocks from the beach.  Every single day I watch the kids get off the school bus and walk to the beach instead of walking into school.  So unlike most parents, I made the 30-minute drive to take Stephen to school each and every day.  I sat in the car and watched until I knew that he was safely inside the school building.   What I didn't know is that the students walk in the front door and out the back door and head to the beach. 

 

Florida has a ridiculous number of child molesters and sex-offenders on its registry.  Two 16-year-old boys were recently raped shortly after stepping off their school bus.  Another young boy (14 years old) was murdered as he walked through the park near his home.  If my son is wandering through the woods or on the beach or ANYWHERE when he is supposed to be in school, I need to know about it so I can protect him.

 

As for your ridiculous statement that some parents do not appear to want to be parents, watch where you aim your gun.  I am a single mother with 3 children.  My ex-husband does not want to be a parent.  He does not write or visit, has absolutely no contact with his children, and does not

pay child support.  I gave up a very good paying profession in the legal field because I felt the need to stay at home where I could be a better parent.  I felt the need to be more available for my children and to be able to attend every school function, every parent-teacher conference.  When my children have a day off school, they are home with me.  Not home alone.  When my children are out on Spring Break, they are with me, not left home alone to take care of themselves.   But when I take my child to school and I go to all the extra trouble to drive him right to the school door and make sure that he goes inside, I certainly do expect the school to be responsible for him until school is out.  If he is missing, I expect the school to contact me as soon as possible -- NOT wait until his dead body washes up on a beach 5 days later. 

 

Although you seem to believe that the school does not have the responsibility to telephone the parents when the child skips school, the Pinellas County, Florida School Board disagrees.  Thank God!   According to the Pinellas County School Board's own rules, the school is REQUIRED to telephone me any time my child is absent for one or more classes.  They did not call until the 17th day.  Once they called me, there were no more skipped classes.  Had they called me on the 1st day that Stephen was missing, there might not have been a 2nd.  Much less a 17th.

 

Not only do I not expect the schools to raise my children, I would not WANT teachers raising my children.  I have met most of the teachers.  Some are not even qualified to be parents, much less teachers.  Ever check the test scores in Florida?  

 

As for your ever-so-enlightning news that "kids know how to delete messages from the answering machine" -- guess what?  I do not own an answering machine.  I have voice mail and my son does NOT have the security code so he can NOT erase messages before I get them.   I am also self-employed and I monitor both my home phone and my business phone 24/7.  In addition, the school has my home phone number, my work phone number, and my cell phone number.  They also have my email address.  They can reach me anytime, anyplace.  The did not attempt to call because they did not even realize that Stephen was missing!

 

So thank you ever so much for the newsflash, but I am quite involved in the parenting of my children.  All 3 of them.  But all 3 of my children are totally different.  Stephen just happens to be a liar, a sneak, incredibly creative and too gutsy.  Sometimes just being involved isn't enough.  Neither is being a good parent.

 

Colleen (Stephen's Mother) 

 
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October 2, 2006, 10:15 am PDT

I'm a teenager who's been there

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What pain killers are you taking exactly? Opiates (Vicodin, Oxycontin, et cetera), or just over the counter pain killers?

DON'T TAKE LARGE AMOUNTS OF ADVIL!!!!!!!!! Its not psychoactive at all; its not doing anything for you, and it probably is the main reason you have had headaches, fevers, and have vomited. You aren't addicted to advil, you can't be. Stop doing it, especially if you are taking prescription pain killers that already have acetimetiphen in them.

Dear beutifull  person,

 

I am a 20 year old recovering addict who once used everything in site to cover up the pain I had inside for  my horrible teenage life.Your  using  a substance to alter or numb those feellings. You don't need drugs to make you feel good. I UNDERSTAND FULLY how you feel because you and I were the same. I have included my email address incase you just want to talk to someone who understand what your going threw.Id be happy to chat with you even if its just for you to vent to someone sense you said your parents have no clue. Please consider emailing me. Take care of yourself. c.m.l.b123@hotmail.com

 

 
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October 2, 2006, 10:31 am PDT

Your daughter won't hate you forever

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My step-daughter is in recovery right now.  She hates me, but I am the only one that saw a problem and addressed it.  I think she still hates me....but that's ok!!!  She knows I will stand by her through her recovery and for the rest of her life.  I am sorry for your mom...she has no idea what she is missing.  Keep your chin up!  You dealt with your demons, give her a chance to deal with hers.  I thought this was all our fault for a long time, but now know it was not.  I won't give up on my kid if you don't give up on your mom! :0)

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I didn't think anyone would reply to my message. I'm glad that your daughter is in rehab now. The problem with my mom is she is also currently addicted to prescription medication . I have offered her help she won't take it. I even had my drug counselor send her information on what resources would be there to help her but she doesn't want anything to do with it. I ran into her on the street the other day and she stopped me to ask how I was. I stopped and spoke with her because I thaught she was being nice. She proceeded in blaming all her drug use on me because i used and cost her so much pain. I understand that I cost her alot of pain in my using days but its not my fault that she turned to drugs.I told her she needs to take some responsibility for her actions and when I told her that she was obviously high but she yell at the top of her lungs that I was a *lut everyone stopped and stared at me. The worst thing is I had my 3 year old daughter in the stroller with me. I cryed all the way home and all night. My mom hasn't forgiven me for what I did and Its been over 2 years. Will you forgive your daughter? I'm just struggling because I have no mom that loves me or is proud of me. You take care and tell you daughter that she can do it she has loving mom and the willingness to stay sober.Thanks for your support.You may email me at anytime if you wana talk.  c.m.l.b123@hotmail.com

 

 
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October 2, 2006, 10:51 am PDT

Wow

Wow you guys are on crack. Learn2Think for yourself. Mass media and idiocy only make america look worse. Kthxbai.
 
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October 2, 2006, 6:52 pm PDT

YOU ARE IN LEFT FIELD

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This may be coming from left field but maybe the trouble with the kids in the suburbs is the suburbs themselves. There is no town, community, or extended families to which children belong. If it takes a village to raise a child how do you raise a child without the village. Cars give young people far too much power and the ability to be alone and unsupervised by adults. Worse still is the measure of affluence that gives older children far too much free time when they should be studying, doing chores, working part time, or playing sports. Not sports of the organized and regulated but being outside doing healthy stuff. Where does a kid go to hang out when you live in the burbs and the kid is bored to death? We say we are buying homes to raise our families but are we building communities for them? Are there youth centers where kids can go to play or get help with their homework? And how will they get there? Maybe the suburbs we invented in the 50's are a poor substitute for the communities they left behind. I raised my kids in big city by choice. I live in a community within it where my children where known by name and people knew where I lived. I knew where they liked to hang out, where they played touch football and where they were after school. I knew their parents and teachers. My apartment was a hub of activity for board games and potato chips or just hanging out watching TV. My point is that kids used to have a place to be and plenty of people around to keep them out of trouble. We called them parents. Aurea Andino

AUREA,

You are coming WAY out of left field.  Our kids are not bored to death, there are places for them to hang.  These kids are not afraid to walk, as a matter of fact none of them have/had their driver's license!  We know whose kids are whose, who their teachers are etc.  You should not judge when you have such little information, and I pray to God that you never have to go through something like this with YOUR children.

 
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October 2, 2006, 9:29 pm PDT

09/27 Generation Rx

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I have a 16 yr. old, that has stolen from me. Not just over the counter drugs but my prescriptions. I have them locked in a box, he still got into it. So we put the lock box in a locked cabnit, he still got it. I went so far to call the police. All they did was tell him to go to bed or I brought him into this world. He has ran away several times. I have filed incorigable charges. He is on house arrest right now ready to go to court this week. They will probuly put him on probation. Then I will have to pay the fees. I don't have the money to do it. I just hope it isn't waisted. The police in this small town will not help parents who are trying to stop this kind of thing from going on. Instead of helping, they are contribuating to the problem.                                                            Becky
You  called the cops on your kid for doing drugs? Ever tried parenting? Maybe accepting your child? Getting him involved with the police is going to scar him emotionally for life. I almost don't even believe someone could do something THAT screwed up to their child. I'd run away too.

LIKE YOUR KIDS.
 
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