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(Original Air Date: 09/28/06) It begins on a dating Web site with flattering e-mails and IMs with handsome photos attached. The man pours on the charm and soon professes love, but he needs money -- to pay medical bills, fund investments and, most importantly, to get back home to the States and finally meet his long-distance love. Is his love for real, or just an elaborate con? Despite being taken for thousands of dollars in bogus money orders, Dee-Dee believes the man she knows as Cole just needs to get home from Nigeria to make good on his debts and marry her. Then, Annette is sure she's being deceived by a man who claims to be a contractor in Africa, but that doesn't stop her from sending him money. Have these women really fallen in love or just fallen for an international scam? Share your own online dating stories and talk about the show here.

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September 26, 2006, 5:29 pm PDT

Good thinking.

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I took out a one month membership with match.com after seeing a Dr. Phil show about this new relationship service. The very first email message I got through match.com was from the very handsome contractor who said he was currently in Africa working on a project building a housing project. He said his home was in North or South Carolina (sorry I can't remember which), he was a widower raising his two children and they were his first priority. But the honey-tongued flattery he laid on me was unbelievable, and that coupled with his repetitive use of certain phrases and poor grammer sent up some red flags for me. Also, he wanted to stop communicating through match.com and asked me to set up an account on Yahoo IM so that we could talk. He wanted to know all kinds of details about me and my life but was very reluctant to provide any about his. So I asked him some very direct questions about what time of day it was in the region of Africa where he was, what the weather was like right then, what the season was, and he supplied answers which, when I checked them out on the internet were completely inconsistent. I blocked him. The next day I received an email through match.com from another very handsome man spouting basically the same profile, flattery, and sadly, the same repetitive grammer patterns. I blocked him. The next day, same thing, different photo, etc. This went on and on. I cancelled my subscription to match.com and allowed the remainder of the month to run out without using the service. There's $35.00 I'll never see again.
Smart of you to check him out.  Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders!
 

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September 26, 2006, 5:34 pm PDT

How frustrating for you.

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My 63 year old mother has had very similar experiences as you. She first heard from this man on udate.com, very good looking, very rich, ya ya ya. He was from LA but was in Africa on business and needed money. When she wouldn't send it, he changed tack and said he was back home and they made a plan for her to visit, she lives in the UK. She bought a ticket and flew to LAX only to be stranded at the airport, no one there to meet her. She got on the first flight back home and didn't learn her lesson, she's off to West Virginia in October to meet another one !! When will she ever learn??

Wow.  Just... wow.  That must frustrate you to no end.  The obvious logic hole for your mom was, if he were really "very rich", why on earth would he need to borrow money?  Yikes.  That's upsetting when you see people you love making bad decisions like that, especially since you can't really change their behavior for them.  You would think that being stranded in LA would have been a big wake-up call; that's not exactly an easy hop back to Heathrow!

 
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September 26, 2006, 8:22 pm PDT

Please Ladies Listen

 

   I have been chatting on Yahoo for a 6 years.  The scams just started this past year.  I could not believe these men would think that as a American I did not understand my own language.  When I would questioned them. The response I received was, well i grew up in a mixed area.  I had to laugh. I grew up in New Orleans.  I was surprised to see these men come from all angles. You would block them and they come right back at you from another angle. From Nigeria, the states, Alaska, the UK .  Their imagination is great and they prey on lonely women on the net looking for companionship.  I am glad Dr. Phil is having this on his show. I want to announce to the whole chatting population to watch on Thursday.  I am sadden how so many women have fallen for these guys. I know the loneliness gets to you but please be careful.  I always use fake names so these guys cannot find out further information on me and I never give out my home address.  Sometimes that is all they need .  So take the advice of the others and please do not send any more money to men who claim they love you after seeing your pic and knew that you were the one for them. 

 
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September 26, 2006, 9:23 pm PDT

Probably really is a scam

    I wrote you the other day about a guy that I met on myspace and started talking to through yahoo IM. Tonight the information that I got while talking makes me believe that it is a scam after all. He had told me how much he loved me and wanted to marry me and treat me like a queen. I have kept copies of all the IM's and tonight at one point he started giving me all his personal information using a different name and to use a different yahoo address. After  asking him about the name and new email address. He just explained that the email address was the one he used for his clients. Nothing about the diferent name. Also for the first time he brought up money. He wanted me to send him 200 dollars so he could put it with his 550 and came back to the states, stopping in Atlanta to see me first before going back to Colorado. I told him I didn't have the money. That I was living paycheck to paycheck and that if I had 200 dollars I had bills I would pay. I have said things to make him think I care only to try and see if it was really real, but after tonight I don't believe it is. I have become smarter with each year and each man that has passed through my life. I have been married three times. Two only lasted less than two years. One was for ten with the husband of my sons. I f I had been smarter back then it wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. I believe that I am finally to the point where I won't just let a guy have my heart as quickly as I have done in the past. Hopefully someday God will cross my path with the right man.  

    Thank you for all you do for people and God Bless you and your wife in all that you both do.

     Sharon Mabrey :-)

 
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September 27, 2006, 2:50 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

I posted this two days ago, but I've noticed my message never made it to the board, so I'm reposting it.

 

I can feel for you all who have experienced love scams. My mother
fell victim to this type of scam last year. It affected the entire
family. I'll never forget the day my mother found out she was being
scammed by a man who was promising her a life of love and marriage.
His story was pretty much typical of the rest I've read here. He
said he was from Texas, but currently on a job in Nigeria. He also
told her after about a month of communicating online that he was
having some money problems and wanted to know if she would do him a
favor. He story was he was having trouble getting back to the USA
and couldn't cash he pay check. He told her he had a friend who owed
him some money and would have a check sent to her and she was to
then cash the check and wire it to him in Lagos, Nigeria. The check
was for over $4,000. At the time she totally trusted this man and
did as he asked of her. Within 1 hour of cashing the check the bank
called and told her the check was bogus. By then it was too late.
She had already wired the money to him by MoneyGram.

She then confronted him about this over the internet and he acted as
if he was surprised and would take care of the matter. He continued
with his lies and would never confess he was scamming her. He even
tried to continue the scam by telling her he would have money wired
into her account and to give him her bank account information. By
this time my mother knew what he was up to.

My mother lives solely off social security and this became a
financial burden that she was unable to cover with her bank. I was
very upset with her, but being the daughter I am, I took on this
financial burden for her. Since then my mother and I both have
become educated about online scams and criminal activities. Thank
God for a support group I had found on yahoo called, "Romance
Scams". It was a life saver and very educational to us both.

Barb Sluppick, owner of Romance Scams is a very knowledgeable lady
about online love scams. I do hope in the future a follow up is done
about "Love Scams", and Dr. Phil has her on his show for an
interview. She has been able to help thousands of people by
educating, providing support, and a place to come for healing. She
pours out her love to help those who have been victimized by these
crimes. I can't think of a better person to discuss this topic with
than Barb.

Vickie

 
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September 27, 2006, 6:41 am PDT

Love is blind

I have just gone through a scam with a man who claims to be from New Port Richey FL and goes by the name Charles Williams.  I have a profile on yahoo! personals and he answered it.  We started chatting and felt a connection.  He sent me flowers, chocolates, and a spa gift certificate.  He called me to tell me how much I mean to him, etc.  He was going to fly to see me but he had to go to France.  When he was in France, he got a project deal in Nigeria where he was suppose to work on a computer project.  He claims he was attacked by militants and all money stolen from him.  That was when he started asking for money.  I was gullible enough to send him money (thousands)  so he could make it through his project which took weeks.  On his way to the airport in Lagos, Nigeria, an explosion took place on an airport road and he was severely injured.  He was hospitalized for several weeks.   His personal assistant told me that he lost his passport, visa and all other forms of identity.  I then started searching public records and couldn't find anything  that would match the information he gave me about himself.  That is when I got very suspisious and realized I have been taken.  I filed a police report with the local police department  (theft by deception) and am now working with an attorney to file bankruptcy.  I have also started going to therapy to work through this all.  I can't believe how blind love is.  I have now learned a lesson the hard way and will haunt me for years.  My credit is also ruined.   They use Yahoo! emails and IM so they can't be traced backed to Nigeria.  They also have disposable cell phones and have the phone numbers rerouted.  These Nigerian scam artists are very good at what they do.   One odd thing about it all is that my prior boyfriend is originally from Nigeria and is working on his PHD in psychology and was an honest person who never asked for a penny.  Maybe that is why I was more trusting of Charles.
 
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September 27, 2006, 10:29 am PDT

I was taken in too

I was taken in by one of these guys a year ago. He contacted me on a datiing site. I thought he was okay cause he was from my city. But in a few days he had to leave for Africa for a job. We emailed every day and his emails were so full of "love" for me. The request for money did not come for 2 months. I told him I did not have money to send him. This went on for awhile then he said he would send me some money orders. They came and it was for a total of $3800.00. They looked legal so I cashed them and sent the money to him thru Western Union. 10 days later I found out the m.o. were no good when the bank took my money out of the acct. This happened on Thanksgiving weekend. I called him in Nigeria to tell him what had happened. I had to scramble to get money out of savings to pay my bills. He could not understand what had happened. I even called the FBI to see what could be done. Nothing..... THIS guy even had the nerve to send more bad m.o.'s to me. I am still waiting for my money. I have had other guys try and pull the money scam on me. Look for bad spelling and the over use of "baby" in their messages. Now I ask potential on line connections if they are going to Africal soon. I will never have that happen to me again.
 
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September 27, 2006, 10:34 am PDT

UK scam

I was flattered to think a man from the UK would give me any attention at all.  Then he called to tell me he was in Nigeria doing contruction for that government. All plans were made for him to come to the US to meet in person, when I get a call from his business partner, in Nigeria, that he was in a car accident on the way to airport and is near death. The friend then gives me a phone number for a Dr. at the Kings Medical Center to call for updates. I did and the Dr wanted $3500 to operate on him, and since I was the wife could I send asap. No one would listen that I was his wife, never met him, so I emailed the British Embassy and gave details of the accident, names of the doctore, his, his business partner, phone numbers to all, dates, and even told the embassy that he was working with Director of Housing there.  The Dr. and him were upset to think I would do that, and he had a miracle recovery.  During his recovery he did mail me a check from a Canada Compay he was working with, and had the bank check it out before depositing it, good thing, it was a forged check, compay real, check stolen. In all this, I did send money to him, and was promised he would pay me back when he got to UK, and that promised still has not been kept. Told my family and friends that I got sick and used that for medical and medications, felt like a complete idiot for falling for the scam. Now I am extremely weary of meeting any men.
 
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September 27, 2006, 10:46 am PDT

me too

let's see where to begin. once upon a time i was that ridiculous person who believed what someone i met online was saying. he seemed to be my absolute dream come true soulmate. he seemed to know exactly what i needed and when i needed it. problem was he really was too good to be true. when people started informing me he wasn't really what he said he was i confronted him. his excuse was anger at me. forgetting the whole issue of him lieing to me. everything got turned around to be my fault. i was stupid, i could not see what was right in front of me. he ended up using alot of personal things that i had told him against me with my own sister whom he had been trying to start a relationship with. i did find the strength to get past the lies and see what really was happening. it was tough believing that someone you thought you knew could have lied to you about everything from start to finish. you have to be very careful about who you give your trust to. if it doesn't feel right then take the blame and have them checked out. it would have saved me alot of time and tears if i had done that small task earlier in our "relationship". 
 
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September 27, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

i got scammed

   dr. phil   i met a man on-line at match .com. he sent me flowers and fruit baskets then i got cell phone  and now i got a dvd player. dr.phil i was so stupid i sent him money ,he sweet talked me and said he needed it to get back home.supposeling he lives in pa. the things that he said were things that i havent heard in years.thats how much of a smooth talker he is. well our conversations went back and forth.we would fight sabout me not sending him money cause i really dont have it ,so i used my charge card to get it for him  i believed him i had no reasoin not to .he said ill send you flowers and he did everything he said he was going to do he did .  so why would i think differently. in my 19 years of being married my husband was never this nice.   we would talk everyday on the computer for hours him telling me how he was stuck there and needed to get home to me . oh he was stuck there because his partner ran off with his money. he is suppose to be a used car salesman with his own business.  his partner went to india and tha embassy couldnt get him  by know i am getting suspicious of this. so he told me if i opened up an bank  account in my name just for him to put money into so he could get home. well i thought he wont have my real account number so i could do this. i gave him all the info.and we went back and fortrh for a week about the transfer of the funds from his account to mine. he kept asking me how much i put in there and i told him just enough to open it . i put 10.00  to open it ,. i would say a week went by and we are still arguing about this money  then all of a sudden it was honey the transfer went thru well me like some dummy went and took the 1000.00 out and sent it to nigeria then he told me that the plane ticket he had was no good so he was transferrring another 1000.00 into the account and go get it and send it to him, well i tried and the bank froze my account and they didnt know why so i called the bsank on friday and they told me i had beeen scammed . well i was so upset i never had anything like this happen to me before and didnt know what to do . now i am in the hole for 1000.00 that is owed to another person that he scammed .dr.phil i dont have this kind of money to pay this person its bad enough that my bills are late because of this . he still ims me and asked me honey are you mad at me.did i do something wrong now this maN NOWS HE DID SOMETHING WRONG . but i am stuck paying for his sweetness. it was like everytime he sent me something that i was suppose to give him money and the polic detective i talked to just says oh you have been scammed he isnt in the country what can we do. i kept all the e-mails and western unions from this and ims that he sent me  but what can i do know .? i keep getting things sent to me and dont know whether they are stolen property or not . please help me in this i am so embsarrsed and upset that i really dont know where to turn     thank you
 
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