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(Original Air Date: 09/28/06) It begins on a dating Web site with flattering e-mails and IMs with handsome photos attached. The man pours on the charm and soon professes love, but he needs money -- to pay medical bills, fund investments and, most importantly, to get back home to the States and finally meet his long-distance love. Is his love for real, or just an elaborate con? Despite being taken for thousands of dollars in bogus money orders, Dee-Dee believes the man she knows as Cole just needs to get home from Nigeria to make good on his debts and marry her. Then, Annette is sure she's being deceived by a man who claims to be a contractor in Africa, but that doesn't stop her from sending him money. Have these women really fallen in love or just fallen for an international scam? Share your own online dating stories and talk about the show here.

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September 29, 2006, 2:49 am PDT

The love that you feel

DeeDee and Annette and all who have found themselves in similar circumstances:

I'm somewhat chagrined to admit that I've worked using on-line communication for 21 years.  I may be knocking on the door of 50, but my ipod's as full as a teen's, I have a home computer network running Windows and Linux, and run my own Ebay consulting business, after working there for nearly 4 years.

While I'm unraveling a financial scam that would make Dr. Phil's head spin, I had to take some time to respond to this show.

I've been emotionally victimized on-line (no $ was exchanged, thank the gods), I truly fell deeply in love with a man who ended up being a pathological liar. ... the emotional involvement and the magical sense of connection and 'he knows me so well' and phone intimacy.... well, let's just say I've done it all.

And you know, when you find out that your lover is a fraud, the pain is so extreme and the sense of deception is so painful, you doubt whether anyone will ever know you like that again -- and you feel like a fool for loving a lie.

After a long time  veiled in embarrassment, guilt and dread, I learned that I fell in love with someone I created, someone who was framed by the words that this man had written and spoken.  So my heart was truly loving a part of myself, a concoction of charm, passion, care, humor... and once I acknowledged that all the features I created were actually a part of me, that was something I learned to celebrate. And I learned to love myself even more.

Listen to your little voices, ask and follow up on details that you can track and track them if you think you've met someone who may like to like more.

And please, be kind to yourselves.
Sharing the love,

r
 
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September 29, 2006, 3:03 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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My mother sent me the link for this show. They had warned me about such events along with all my friends but I didn't want to believe it. I still don't. Currently I am in contact with someone that fits under the exact criteria of the show. I am a smart woman but my brain and heart are having a battle. Next week, I was planning on sending money to help but now I am having doubts. If its true, I could be making the biggest mistake of my life by losing someone I love. If its a scam, I could be out a few thousand dollars. Is love worth the few thousand? I guess I will know in a week or so.

I would go with your brain!  Though it may be difficult for you to lose him now, it will be worse later when he has your money too.  

 
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September 29, 2006, 3:04 am PDT

Watch out for agoldfish4u

 

  I have been writing a British/American...working in Nigeria. I have had my doubts, but so far his story checked out, still there was this nagging red flag. Mainly because it was all too good to be true. After seeing Dr Phil today. I now know I was sucked in too. He had not asked for money, which is different, in fact he said he had alot of money, but after hearing all of this, I can not continue to write. How sad and stupid these scammers are!

 
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September 29, 2006, 3:56 am PDT

Scams and Scammers/ Turn It Around

To any of you who have been scammed or have been contacted by scammers:

I suggest  reading this forum :      thescambaiter.com

it is a place you can become familiar with the many and various types of scams on the internet today... the site deals with 419 advance fee fraud, romance scams and ebay scams... among others...

there are stickys to read that will show  you red flags to look for in email...

the members of the scambaiters... bait scammers, they turn the scam back on the scammers...wasting their time in an effort to prevent them from scamming someone who doesn't realize what is going on...

some of the more entertaining baits have even cost the scammers quite a bit of money...

the forum is very educational... well worth reading...

and if you feel like you'd like to turn the tables a bit, waste a scammers time to prevent them from focusing on an innocent person, join in the fun...

 
 
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September 29, 2006, 4:40 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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I do know that loneliness can make you do things that you might not do.  But I also think that some people are just plain STUPID!  When you're on the internet a person can type in anything they want.  How are you to know if it's real or not.  I could tell you that I am a 6ft 124 pound blond woman with blue eyes.  In acutallity I am a 5 ft 3 inch 150 pound red head with hazel eyes.  People will say exactly what you want to hear.  Some men are real players and users.  And woman are no better.  They know just what a man wants to hear.  Men have good imaginations and woman know that so they can be real discriptive in what they type.  It's so sad to see people use the internet to scam people.  I  WON"T use the internet for meeting some one.  There are so many ways in this world to meet people face to face.  And to find out if they are real or not.    As the saying goes "If you let someone scan you the first time, it's shame on them for doing it and the second time it's shame on you for letting them".  So be careful!  It could be your heart that they steal.
you know you have no right to call people "stupid"  That is so uncalled for...
 
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September 29, 2006, 4:51 am PDT

me too

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Did you ever meet this guy in person? I still can't believe that so many people get taken like this. This is terrible. I'll bet you'll never let this happen again.

So Thomas tried to pull his scam on me, but I didn't fall for it.  He was to contradicting.  He told me he had and emergency meeting in "Africa" and that he had gotten typoid fever.  What too the cake was when he told me he was e-mailing me from his Physician's PC.  He wanted to send me a check to cash for him or open a bank account at Bank of America.  That's when I told him that I wouldn't do that for my own family, much less a stranger. He was one smooth talking man.  I had my supiciousioss because he said he had gotten me off of a dating web.  I had never joined a dating web.  The picture he used was him standing on a boat in front of some beautiful mountains.   He said he was from Rancho Santa Margarita California and was 46 years old.

 

My daughter called me at work to see if I was taping the Dr. Phil so which I do everyday.  So, when I watched it, it made me sick to my stomach.  I am so glad that I didn't go as far as others had.  I was feeling really guilty because I said this guy could die.  Then after a few more days he was still writing me, I knew it was a lie because if you don't seek treatment immediately for this illness you can die.  Like I told him, I might come from a small town, but I wasn't born yesterday and this pack of french fries isn't short of any of it's fries. 

 

It's amazing how these guys can come in and sweep you off of your feet.  Telling you how sweet you are and so forth but not saying much about themselves.  The only thing he had told me was that his parents and wife had died in the past 2 years and he was just looking for a friend to talk to, then all of a sudden he's in love with me.  I told him straight out that you just don't fall in love by talking on email.  I didn't do the instant mailing, I have copies of all of the e-mails that he sent me.  I guess I am the lucky one.

 

Hang in there and we learn from these experiences.....Don't feel bad for yourself, there is life out there after all of this.

 
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September 29, 2006, 5:11 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

Quote From: karleen345

I find it amazing that an intellegent woman can be taken in by a con artist, myself included. In 1978 I re-met an old friend and let myself believe his line of B.S. I was so embarassed  that I allowed myself to get into that mess. This guy took me for anything and everything he could find while I was at work. I came home to find almost everything was gone, including my car! When he was late picking me up from work I knew what had happened and I prayed for myself to be wrong, but I knew in my heart that I was not wrong. Since then I"ve adopted a quote but can't remember whos quote is is. Anyway I quote "Isn't it strange that a woman can fake an orgasan, but a man can fake an entire relationship!" I don't date anymore because I've found that any man that is interested in me is only interested in what he can take from me.

You could be the most intelligent person in the world, but if you went into a jungle without a guide, a guidebook, proper attire, and a few clues about the place and its dangers, you would probably not last very long.


The scammers are predators, we are their prey, and the internet is a jungle.  They think they have a right to take our money from us and they do not care about our feelings. They stalk us deliberately and take advantage of our good natures. They never get far with the mean, the stingy, the hard-hearted, etc, who see right through them, instead they play havoc with the soft-hearted, the generous natured, and the polite people, who haven't learned the hazards of the internet.

 
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September 29, 2006, 5:13 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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Hello, Right now i am having anxiety... Please respond to me at datzagirl01@yahoo.com or datzagirl01 on yahoo messenger.. please please... contact me ASAP... We so need to talk!!!! my name is jennifer and i live in california

If you think you have been scammed, or know you have, and need to talk about it, join us:

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-scammers/

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCAMMERSLAYER/

 
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September 29, 2006, 5:17 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

Quote From: sunshine1012

I met someone on line actually i think he was on match.com. his name is kary. he sent me flowers twice and asked me for money i said no i didnt have it. he said he would have his work send me his check so i could cash it. he said for me to keep 500.00 for rent. i told him i am on to him and will cut off all contact with him.he didnt deny the scam. he was nigeria. he said he lived in forest lake.i checked for his address in forest lake and there was none.how do these guys get online?

 

 

 

kathy

they work in gangs in internet cafes, they have scripts and they get email address lists to work with.

google: Nigerian romance scammers

 
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September 29, 2006, 5:17 am PDT

Not just love scams, but also letter of invitation to get into the country

Hi Everyone,

 

I run an annual conference at a children's hospital and I've had over 32 fake registrations to my event and they're ALL come from Nigeria. These people are not only immitating doctors, but they are also using stolen credit cards (all from the US). At first I couldn't figure out what their motive was (as it wasn't money), but when they began to request 'letters of invitation' on official hospital letterhead which was to be couriered to them and to their "consulate" for a visa, I realized they were trying to get a free pass into the country.

 

I was elated yesterday to see Dr. Phil doing a segment on Nigerian scam artists. Please spread the word about my experience to anyone who runs major events and conferences. I don't want these cons running around in my country.

 

Nicole

 
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