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Topic : 11/23 Love Scams?

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Created on : Friday, September 22, 2006, 12:23:18 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/28/06) It begins on a dating Web site with flattering e-mails and IMs with handsome photos attached. The man pours on the charm and soon professes love, but he needs money -- to pay medical bills, fund investments and, most importantly, to get back home to the States and finally meet his long-distance love. Is his love for real, or just an elaborate con? Despite being taken for thousands of dollars in bogus money orders, Dee-Dee believes the man she knows as Cole just needs to get home from Nigeria to make good on his debts and marry her. Then, Annette is sure she's being deceived by a man who claims to be a contractor in Africa, but that doesn't stop her from sending him money. Have these women really fallen in love or just fallen for an international scam? Share your own online dating stories and talk about the show here.

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October 7, 2006, 3:25 pm PDT

Grateful!

Between some women's intuition, this show/message boards, and the RomanceScams.com group, I have figured out that 'my man' is a scammer.  He waited quite a while to ever ask for anything (wants to have a computer shipped to my address and then for me to ship it to him in Accra, Ghana) but everything leading up to the asking is like so many women's stories that I've read here.  I have played dumb about doing this favor for him, asking why he needs me to serve as a middle person for this new computer, all the while laughing to myself!!!  I'd really like to nail him and keep him from doing this to anyone else.  We were matched through eHarmony.com who apparently did find out something about him because they've taken him off their site and sent me an email stating such.  How he got through all the questions on their personality profile I'll never know.  We were really well matched and I was pretty taken away there for a while.  But hindsight is always 20/20 and I can see now all the groundwork was being laid for the scam to begin.

The name he gave me is 'Frederick Johnson' from New York, NY; is an importer/exporter; and currently working in Accra installing computer labs in schools; a divorced, American born Brit with two sons (one of which fell, hit his head and went into a coma for several days-didn't get asked for money for that!); and his email is lovedandbeloved2g2@yahoo.com.  I'd love to hear if anyone else knows this guy.  I've researched his name and looked at various sites with pictures of scammers but haven't seen anything.

I just want to thank everyone who has shared their stories here.  Luckily I got all this information before I wasted any more time and effort on this guy.  Let's listen to our head and not always our heart (easier said than done, I know) and maybe this won't happen to anyone else.

 
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October 7, 2006, 3:59 pm PDT

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It constantly amazes me how stupid people are. You can sugar coat it any way you like, but it's stupidity. I feel sorry for them, it's not their fault they have so little grey matter. Maybe we should have some place to house these people? No sharp scissors, non toxic glue, and lots of macaroni.... back to kindergarten they go. I met my husband on the Internet, so I know all about long distance romance. What those women had wasn't romance it was disturbing and pathetic.
 
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October 7, 2006, 7:20 pm PDT

You are soooooo lucky.

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I met my husband online 7 years ago. He was in Australia, I am in Canada. I was married and miserable at the time. I was so miserable that I changed my life. I fell in love with him immediately, before I ever knew what he looked liked or anything about him really. It was the same for him. We still can't explain it... we've stopped trying. It took 15 minutes on ICQ to fall in love and the rest is history. It was 2 and half years before we met "in real life." He was here for 6 weeks, and then 2 and a half more years passed before he came back. My divorce (which he paid for with funds sent through Western Union) became final 3 months after he came back, we married 1 month later. That was 2 years ago. We have the perfect marriage. I'm smiling writing that because I'm so happy.... it should be illegal :-)

 I don't recommend this to anyone it was so hard to be separated, but you can't help who you fall in love with. We had no doubts, everyone else thought we were stupid, pathetic, crazy, blah blah blah... We were right, they were so wrong... but we knew that.

We shared everything. Total honesty is a must. Long before we ever "met" I had talked to his friends, family and co-workers. I had access to his bank accounts online, and could track his movements in Australia. I had phone numbers for friends, family, work, clubs, and where he went diving. I had his ID numbers, drivers license, tax file number, license plate on his car.... everything. He had all my info as well.

People need to be smart, and then follow your heart.

Well, your story is the first I've heard where an online, long distance romance worked. Congratulations.

 

But I have to ask, did you ever think it was a security and safety risk to give out your ID numbers, driver's license, tax file number, license plate number, etc? Why on earth would you share your tax information with an online stranger?? And how does someone "fall in love" with instant messages on a computer within 15 minutes? What if this guy turned out to be a female teenager, or a pedophile? What exactly did this person write for you to "fall in love" in 15 minutes?

 

Sorry to ask such questions, but it's soooooo dangerous for women to "fall in love" with someone they know absolutely nothing about. And although your situation worked, if I heard someone else starting such a relationship that you described, I would tell her to RUN as fast as she can away from her computer! 

 
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October 7, 2006, 7:48 pm PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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Hello to all you ladies that have been scamed!  I have also been a victim of a scam artist out of Nigeria. I met "Mike" on American Singles, he came on line rather quickly, talking to me sweetly, talking to me every day, got my yahoo e-mail address, quickly said "I Love you" all the good stuff us ladies like to hear. Said he was from New York, just moved to Nigeria a year ago with his Mom and Siblings because of the death of him father, his father was white and from NY while his mother is black and from Nigeria,so they went there to be closer to her family.  "Mike" hated it there and wanted to return to the States a.s.a.p, so he was looking for a woman to love and to be with in the states so he could move back and start a new life with her "me".  We started talking on the phone as well as the computer almost every single day, he would send me poems and write me lovely letters and such, professing he undying love for me, well I felt like I had fallen in love with him also, and trusted him completley, then.......he had went to the bank and drew out some money for a plane ticket to come to me, he was beaten up and robbed by 4 men. Then, his Mom got sick and was in the hospital so she needed money for meds. Then he supposidly went and put $700.00 down on a plane ticket  to reserve it and needed $550.00 more, could I help him, so of course I sent him money, then, he was in a car accident and was in the hospital with a broken leg, so he needed more money for pain meds, so I sent him more money, after that his car was stolen and his apartment caught on fire by arson, NO I did not send him anymore money. After that, his mom was sick again and in the hospital.

It was one thing after another, so after the fact of sending him $900.00, I decided to go on line and do some checking, I found an Internet Fraud Investigator out of the U.K. I wrote to him and shared my story, he checked out "Mike" and wrote back to me and told me he was a fraud and was part of the Nigerian fraud gangs.

I confronted "Mike" he denied it of course, the IFA shut down "Mikes" e-mail address, boy was he pissed at me! Then he got over it, we talked again for a while, I told him I wanted him to send me all of my money back and I already spoke to the police about it, then I had not heard from him in months. Now guess what????? he has recently started writing me again and calling me. He still want s to know if I still love him and he love me still and would love to start our "relationship" all over again. I have been going along with this (pretend this time) and here we go again, he is telling me now that someone from a different state, a girlfriend of his Uncle is going to Western Union $600.00 to me, I am to take out $100.00 for now for what he owes me and send him the rest because his mom is sick again and needs meds. He gave me the confirmation number from Western Union a girls name, no number, so I decided what the heck, go check it out. Well guess what I went to Western Union, there is NO money there. Imagine that!

I left him an e-mail a couple of days ago saying" OK Mike what are you trying to pull now??? your not getting any money out of me again!" I have not heard back so far.

Why do we want to believe them so bad? Are we so desperate to have a good man in our lives? And like the one lady had said "we are intelligent women" what is our problem?

Thank you!

The only problem you have is that you trust total strangers, and believe what you are told. These qualities are not a bad thing. But the world today requires that you don't allow your dreams and fantasies to over-rule your skepticism. Scammers know there are people out there who will believe some truly outlandish stories: successful men overseas who are robbed, beaten, can't cash their money orders in a foreign country, mugged on the way to the airport, have sick children in the hospital, etc. These stories I've read so far sound all the same to me. And I haven't believed any I've read so far.

 

Anytime a total stranger asks you for money, the red flags should be flying! The only people I give money to are the young kids in my neighborhood who are selling school endorsed items for their football or cheerleader team, who are accompanied by their parents whom I recognize from the local school.

 

You learned a hard lesson, and I suspect you will not make this mistake twice. Never ever ever give out your hard earned money to a stranger. I don't care if the person says he's the Pope! Just say NO!

 

 

 
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October 8, 2006, 9:20 am PDT

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It constantly amazes me how stupid people are. You can sugar coat it any way you like, but it's stupidity. I feel sorry for them, it's not their fault they have so little grey matter. Maybe we should have some place to house these people? No sharp scissors, non toxic glue, and lots of macaroni.... back to kindergarten they go. I met my husband on the Internet, so I know all about long distance romance. What those women had wasn't romance it was disturbing and pathetic.

Dr. Phil's show revealing these scams have done a great service to people. If someone is going to attack them because they were vulnerable, they will cease to come forward. It is very important that people do come forward. It does far more for society than negative judgements do.

 
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October 8, 2006, 11:30 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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Dr. Phil's show revealing these scams have done a great service to people. If someone is going to attack them because they were vulnerable, they will cease to come forward. It is very important that people do come forward. It does far more for society than negative judgements do.

I agree that the women who are victims of these predators need not be made to feel foolish or stupid.  You will only be compounding the situation if in fact the women were depressed and lonely.  We need to stick together and fight the scammers, spread the word about them and help the victims. 
 
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October 8, 2006, 1:13 pm PDT

how they get on line.....

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I met someone on line actually i think he was on match.com. his name is kary. he sent me flowers twice and asked me for money i said no i didnt have it. he said he would have his work send me his check so i could cash it. he said for me to keep 500.00 for rent. i told him i am on to him and will cut off all contact with him.he didnt deny the scam. he was nigeria. he said he lived in forest lake.i checked for his address in forest lake and there was none.how do these guys get online?

 

 

 

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These people get on-line by going to a internet cafe. They pay a fee to use the computer in these places.  They are generally poor people and spend thier days scaming people for money like its a job   They take us for fools and will use scare tatics to get what they want.  Nigeria is a third world country most of these people have no access to coming to America let alone a computer in thier own homes.  Tell them you have access to someone in Nigeria and that you will have them arrested . Tell them they have been reported to the U.S athorities  Don't allow them to make you fearfull they will play on your weakness.   These people are a disgrace to those Nigerians whom are upright citizens of Nigeria as well as the U.S.   remember these are low life people doing this , they are poor and trying to get rich off of gullable people. DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO INSTILL FEAR IN YOU.
 
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October 8, 2006, 2:10 pm PDT

me too.........

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Last night I finally had the opportunity to sit down and watch a couple of episodes of Dr Phil I have recorded and saw this regarding the Nigeria scams.  How ironic is the same day I watch this episode I get and email from some individual from Nigeria.  Below is a copy of the email. 

 

FROM: Joe Allen (ESQ)
Joe Allen & ASSOCIATES
#18 KINGS ROAD, LAGOS.
 
ATTN: Noll,
 
I am Barrister Joe Allen, a Solicitor. I am the Personal Attorney to Mr .C. Noll  a  national of your country, who used to work with Chevron Oil Development Company in Nigeria.

On the 21st of April 2004, my client, his wife and their three children
were involved in a car accident along Abuja Express Road. Unfortunately
they all lost their lives in the event of the accident.Since then I
have made several enquiries to your Embassy to locate any of my  lient's extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful.

After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his
relatives over the Internet to locate any member of his family but of no avail, hence, I contacted you to assist in repartrating the money left behind by my client in a Security Company outside Nigeria.
Particularly, the Security Company where the deceased deposited the two
trunk boxes containing $18.4Million (Eighteen Million Four Hundred
Thousand United States Dollars Only) does not know the content of the two trunk boxes deposited with them.

Consequently, the Security Company issued me a notice to provide the
Next-of-Kin to claim the two trunk boxes in their custody within the next ten official working days. Since I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 2 years now, I seek your consent to present you as the next-of-kin of the deceased to claim the two trunk boxes since you are not a nigerian so that the two trunk boxes can be delivered to you by the security company.

Upon receipt of the two trunk boxes, I will come over to your country
to meet with you for the disbursment of the fund, and then you and me
can share the money : 50% to me and 40% to you, while 10% will be used on expenses incurred.
 
I have all the necessary legal documents that can back up any claim we
may make with the Security Company. All I require is your honest co-operation to enable us see this deal through. I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in touch with me by my secured and confidential e-mail addresse or the above stated private telephone numbers to enable us discuss further.

Please indicate your telephone and fax number for further discussion/
clarification.

Best regards
Barrister Joe Allen (Esq).

 

 

So beware, they are out there.

I too have gotten E mail like this, it is so classic of Nigerian scams NEVER EVER GIVE PERSONNAL INFORMATION they will ask for you phone number,, SS#, bank account number anything they can use to get money don't bite,  don't allow yourself to be caught up in these stories. Because that is what they are stories..........unclaimmed money, sick or dying family member, false prommises of LOVE come on!!!!!  I rarely get any messages now because I let them know I know its a scam and not to contact me any more.  (I will come over to your country) How?  most of them have no passport to even come to the U.S and most of them that are blessed to come to the U.S come here to make a living
 
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October 8, 2006, 2:11 pm PDT

There's more...

Hi Gorgeous one.How are you doing today ? hope you receive this message and it finds you well. My name is Steven Daniel and I am from Williamsport,Pa but presently in West Africa for busines trip,I'm a construction Engineer.I deal in building of bridges and house , When I saw your profile I decided to respond with the hope of corresponding. I guess the first thing that came into my mind when I saw your photo was "WOW!!!". You are DROP-DEAD GORGEOUS!!! . It seems you are that rare woman who has just as much (or more) going for herself on the inside as the outside. I would consider it an honor to get to know you. Im EXTREMELY busy so Im not looking to move too fast or for anything serious at this point, but if sparks fly then so be it About me I dont have much time for or interest in the "traditional singles scene" so I decided to give this a try. Besides, I have a few friends who have had good time in the scene of internet dating so i decided to give it a trial. I find that many women I encounter don't call lately, my business has kept me from getting out much, but in general I don't have a problem meeting women. However, meeting the right woman has been somewhat challenging. I guess I'm seeking the proverbial "entire package"-beauty, brains, pleasant disposition, morals, compassionate heart and ethics. You certainly appear to fit that mold. Nothing speaks my interest more than a woman who has a great deal going for herself, yet carries herself as if she is oblivious to that fact. First and foremost Im looking for a woman with the potential and desire to become my "best friend" because I believe that is the foundation for a lasting relationship.Im sorry for the lengthy note, but my hope is to give you an accurate snapshot of who I am, especially since I dont have much about me in my profile. I don't know what else to tell you, but consider this: To laugh is to risk appearing a fool. To weep is to risk appearing sentimental. To reach out for another is to risk involvement. To expose feelings is to risk exposing of yourself. To play your ideas, your dreams, before the crowd, is to risk your loses. To love is to risk not being loved in return. To live is to risk dying. To hope is to risk despair. To try is to risk failure. But risk must be taken because the greatest hazard in life is risking nothing. And people who risk nothing, do nothing, have nothing, buy nothing. You may avoid suffering and sorrow, but you simply cannot learn.cha Till i hear from you again,have a nice time.

I wonder if this is a scam? Of course it is!!!!! I am saving all of the messages waiting for the day he asks me to cash an illegal check and/or send him money. I received this message on 10/08/2006. Ladies keep your eyes open!

 
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October 8, 2006, 2:12 pm PDT

Dee-Dee

I felt very badly for Dee-Dee. She really belived the man in Nigeria cared for her.  I was so sad when she found out the news that  she was being scammed. Dee-Dee looked so crushed. I hope she can get through this and go on with her life and find a guy who really loves and cares for her.
 
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