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Created on : Friday, September 22, 2006, 12:23:18 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/28/06) It begins on a dating Web site with flattering e-mails and IMs with handsome photos attached. The man pours on the charm and soon professes love, but he needs money -- to pay medical bills, fund investments and, most importantly, to get back home to the States and finally meet his long-distance love. Is his love for real, or just an elaborate con? Despite being taken for thousands of dollars in bogus money orders, Dee-Dee believes the man she knows as Cole just needs to get home from Nigeria to make good on his debts and marry her. Then, Annette is sure she's being deceived by a man who claims to be a contractor in Africa, but that doesn't stop her from sending him money. Have these women really fallen in love or just fallen for an international scam? Share your own online dating stories and talk about the show here.

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October 8, 2006, 2:20 pm PDT

Yes!

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There is another scam going on in the world targeting a vulnerable group of people.  It's the adoption scam and it's rampant.  There are many, many people out there taking advantage of couples who desperately want a child and are willing to hurt the innocent both financially and emotionally, wiping out what chance they had for adopting a child.

 

We recently adopted and can't believe the number of people trying to scam us.  Fortunately, I have a skeptic's mind and didn't fall for any.  But, many people do, giving their money they had saved up for the hope of a future family, leaving them drained in every way you can imagine and near hopeless for their dreams of having children.

 

I am curious if the show has touched on this, because it should.

Yes, people who want to adopt a baby are at risk as well. It is very hard thing to prosecute since no one really knows what a birthmother intends or something like that. I saw a special about this type of cruel scam. Yes, those who want to adopt especially online, please be careful!!
 
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October 8, 2006, 2:56 pm PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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Well, your story is the first I've heard where an online, long distance romance worked. Congratulations.

 

But I have to ask, did you ever think it was a security and safety risk to give out your ID numbers, driver's license, tax file number, license plate number, etc? Why on earth would you share your tax information with an online stranger?? And how does someone "fall in love" with instant messages on a computer within 15 minutes? What if this guy turned out to be a female teenager, or a pedophile? What exactly did this person write for you to "fall in love" in 15 minutes?

 

Sorry to ask such questions, but it's soooooo dangerous for women to "fall in love" with someone they know absolutely nothing about. And although your situation worked, if I heard someone else starting such a relationship that you described, I would tell her to RUN as fast as she can away from her computer! 

My story isn't even the 100th long distance and/or online romance working out that I've heard of.  When I first went online in 1997 I happened upon a chat room with a whole bunch of normal nice people from all over the world. We were a pretty small group. Most of us have met at least 1 person from the room. I also met my best friend in the room and all these years later he's godfather to my children, and I love him to pieces. I felt no danger meeting him either, which I did alone and in a hotel. I had known him for years, talked to his kids, his wife and other online friends we had in common. It seems all the stories I've heard about are some silly woman running off after talking to someone online for a month or whatever. I don't think you  really read what I wrote or you could have answered your own questions.

 

You asked:

And how does someone "fall in love" with instant messages on a computer within 15 minutes?

I said:

We still can't explain it... we've stopped trying.

 

You asked:

...did you ever think it was a security and safety risk to give out your ID numbers, driver's license, tax file number, license plate number, etc?

I said:

Total honesty is a must. Long before we ever "met" I had talked to his friends, family and co-workers.

 

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What if this guy turned out to be a female teenager, or a pedophile?

I said:

Total honesty is a must. Long before we ever "met" I had talked to his friends, family and co-workers.

 

 

It was nothing he said it just was. We don't know . He says it was an answer to a prayer. I don't believe in that sort of thing. (Big shoulder shrug) All I can tell you is the truth. That is what happened. I knew, he knew, we were right.

As for being a nut or a pedophile people meet those in high school and marry them all the time. Priests, teachers, lawyers, soldiers, ditch diggers, doctors... pedophiles fool you by walking upright.... sorta like humans.

If he was anything other then what he said he was there was a massive Australian conspiracy to fool me. It took us about a month to admit we were in love, and by that time I'd spent many hours on the phone with him. All the exchange of information, pictures and that stuff came later. The love part hit us like a brick and we thought we were nuts too at first.

Never be sorry to ask a question. I put all this out there. I am light hearted because I'm happy. It was smoke and mirrors and magic, and it worked. Still amazes the crap outta me too.

I'm afraid there are a lot of careless, desperate, lonely, not so bright people with access to computers. It's very disturbing when people are unable to take care of themselves.

No one online has ever asked me for money. They have asked what I was wearing and that got the same response that asking me for money would get... after picking myself off the floor from laughing it would be a quick and firm F off.  

 
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October 8, 2006, 4:40 pm PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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My story isn't even the 100th long distance and/or online romance working out that I've heard of.  When I first went online in 1997 I happened upon a chat room with a whole bunch of normal nice people from all over the world. We were a pretty small group. Most of us have met at least 1 person from the room. I also met my best friend in the room and all these years later he's godfather to my children, and I love him to pieces. I felt no danger meeting him either, which I did alone and in a hotel. I had known him for years, talked to his kids, his wife and other online friends we had in common. It seems all the stories I've heard about are some silly woman running off after talking to someone online for a month or whatever. I don't think you  really read what I wrote or you could have answered your own questions.

 

You asked:

And how does someone "fall in love" with instant messages on a computer within 15 minutes?

I said:

We still can't explain it... we've stopped trying.

 

You asked:

...did you ever think it was a security and safety risk to give out your ID numbers, driver's license, tax file number, license plate number, etc?

I said:

Total honesty is a must. Long before we ever "met" I had talked to his friends, family and co-workers.

 

You asked:

What if this guy turned out to be a female teenager, or a pedophile?

I said:

Total honesty is a must. Long before we ever "met" I had talked to his friends, family and co-workers.

 

 

It was nothing he said it just was. We don't know . He says it was an answer to a prayer. I don't believe in that sort of thing. (Big shoulder shrug) All I can tell you is the truth. That is what happened. I knew, he knew, we were right.

As for being a nut or a pedophile people meet those in high school and marry them all the time. Priests, teachers, lawyers, soldiers, ditch diggers, doctors... pedophiles fool you by walking upright.... sorta like humans.

If he was anything other then what he said he was there was a massive Australian conspiracy to fool me. It took us about a month to admit we were in love, and by that time I'd spent many hours on the phone with him. All the exchange of information, pictures and that stuff came later. The love part hit us like a brick and we thought we were nuts too at first.

Never be sorry to ask a question. I put all this out there. I am light hearted because I'm happy. It was smoke and mirrors and magic, and it worked. Still amazes the crap outta me too.

I'm afraid there are a lot of careless, desperate, lonely, not so bright people with access to computers. It's very disturbing when people are unable to take care of themselves.

No one online has ever asked me for money. They have asked what I was wearing and that got the same response that asking me for money would get... after picking myself off the floor from laughing it would be a quick and firm F off.  

Great story. Good for you!  :)
 
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October 8, 2006, 4:58 pm PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

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Dr. Phil's show revealing these scams have done a great service to people. If someone is going to attack them because they were vulnerable, they will cease to come forward. It is very important that people do come forward. It does far more for society than negative judgements do.

Why is it that no one can take responsibility for their lives? It's always someone else's fault. Poor wee dears they are so vulnerable.

 I feel sorry for people of low intelligence that get caught up in lies, but most of these women are supposedly of "normal" intelligence. Get a back bone, get a life, grow up, and stop whining. 

Am I judging them? I guess I am. They need to be held responsible. They need to smarten up. You help no one by shielding them from the truth. I find it amazing that people in this day and information age need to have simple facts of life revealed to them, like they are some sort of secret or mystery or aberration.

I want to see one person stand up and say, Lord I was dumb! What was I thinking? DUH!  I respect that. Because none of us are perfect. But sniveling, whimpering and shivering just tick me off, and it solves nothing. Resolve to do better. Learn. That all sounds so hard. I do have sympathy for pain. I don't think scammed people are bad people, but patting them on the head just makes them think they have no part in bad decisions.

 
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October 8, 2006, 7:50 pm PDT

Help

I dont know if tese messages get to dr phil or even his staff but i need help with this situation that i got in by selling something on a site similar to ebay (www.craigslist.com)  but someone claming to be in canada wants me to send a cell phone I was selling to there son in Nigeria but it felt funny from the beginning because I was selling it for 120$ USD and the person said they will pay me 240$ USD plus 110$ shipping so thats 350$ for an item I was selling for 120$ I want someone from the Dr.Phil crew to eaither direct me to someone or analysis the emails me and the customer were sending to each other


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October 9, 2006, 8:51 am PDT

This is likely a scam..........

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I dont know if tese messages get to dr phil or even his staff but i need help with this situation that i got in by selling something on a site similar to ebay (www.craigslist.com)  but someone claming to be in canada wants me to send a cell phone I was selling to there son in Nigeria but it felt funny from the beginning because I was selling it for 120$ USD and the person said they will pay me 240$ USD plus 110$ shipping so thats 350$ for an item I was selling for 120$ I want someone from the Dr.Phil crew to eaither direct me to someone or analysis the emails me and the customer were sending to each other


 D Cannon

  This is likely a scam why would anybody spend that kind of money to get a cell phone?  Do not except check or money order from Nigeria they are likely stolen.  $350.00 USD is  a lot of money in Nigeria and those with the money can purchase a cell phone in Nigeria.  I suggest you cut off communication with this person before they offer you somethingelse too good to be true and you fall victim to yet another NIGERIAN SCAM   I have friends in the Nigerian community here in the U.S and these items can be purchased in Nigeria.  The person you are communicating with likely has no money and is trying to scam anything they can get on the internet.  If you have to second guess what you are feeling trust your inner feelings  (it felt funny) YOU ARE RIGHT TRUST WHAT YOU FEEL!!!!!!! STOP STOP STOP Communicating with Nigerians Online
 
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October 9, 2006, 9:04 am PDT

09/28 Love Scams?

Quote From: dcannon1

I dont know if tese messages get to dr phil or even his staff but i need help with this situation that i got in by selling something on a site similar to ebay (www.craigslist.com)  but someone claming to be in canada wants me to send a cell phone I was selling to there son in Nigeria but it felt funny from the beginning because I was selling it for 120$ USD and the person said they will pay me 240$ USD plus 110$ shipping so thats 350$ for an item I was selling for 120$ I want someone from the Dr.Phil crew to eaither direct me to someone or analysis the emails me and the customer were sending to each other


 D Cannon

Not only is this "likely" a scam, IT IS A SCAM. The classic 419 scam out of Nigeria. They want to overpay, have you western union the difference and immediately ship the product. Unfortunately, the check is phony, but the money you send isn't. They get your product, and the money you sent them. NEVER ever ever sell something in this manner. If they offer to overpay, you should know immediately that you are being scammed. If you really want to do business with someone like this, tell them you will hold the product and check for a minimum of 30 days for the check to clear. See how fast they walk away.
 
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October 9, 2006, 9:18 am PDT

Cut off Nigeria On Line.........

   I WOULD  SAY CUT OFF NIGERIA IF YOU WANT TO DATE NIGERIANS THERE IS GENERALLY A NIGERIAN COMMUNITY IN MOST CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE SETTLED HERE IN THE U.S

THERE ARE ENOUGH LONELY PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD AND EVEN THEN YOU SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT ANYBODY WHOM IS ASKING YOU FOR MONEY.  NOT TO JUST SINGLE OUT NIGERIA USE CAUTION WHEN TRYING TO DATE ON LINE   BE CAREFULL LADIES!!!!!

 
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October 10, 2006, 6:22 am PDT

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when they are sent a picture and put the mouse pointer on it look at the top of the picture if you see the blocks to save-print-email- open folder, its a picture someone downloaded from the net, and if you see this it isnt a picture they uploaded from thear home scanner, this test is 95% fool proof, it takes high dollar equtiment to remove those blocks and thear arnt alot of people who even know how to remove them,
Thank-you so much for the advice about the picture, I will definetly let my father know about that. Unfortunatly he is still talking to it (saying that cause not sure if it's a man or a woman), now it wants to send him checks in the mail to pay him back, but only want him to send 1800.00 back. I told him to make sure that they all clear first. I just don't understand why he would still talk to it when i've proven over and over again that it's scamming him. My new proof was the girl in the picture had new pics taken on the web-site focus hawaii so I told him to ask it if it was in Hawaii again. I am more than determined to stop this person from scamming him any further.
 
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October 10, 2006, 7:18 pm PDT

my own scare

i have a friend whom i fear may have been scammed, but after finding out she could not "help" them they fell off the face of the earth .well one did ,the other kept trying. till i took over and asked certain questions then he took off as well. at first she would not listen to me or anyone else she was in love. one even bought her a ring that was supposedly engraved showed us the picture but we could not see the engraving. so i said since we don't see it the ring is a fake ever since then he has been not talking to her or i.  on other thing last Tuesday his profile said his marital status was widower then on Thursday two days later it said divorced. he occupation changed too. if any one wants the screen names they are on yahoo i can give them to you so you can  watch out for them. i don't want anyone else to get hit up by these two scumbags.

 

 

      Trish

 
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