Topic : The Other Woman

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:04:06 pm
Author : dataimport
If you've been the other woman, find support here. General talk and debate about infidelity can be found in our Infidelity discussion.

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May 1, 2008, 7:44 am PDT

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Well i thought things was gettting better, but it seems like we can't seem eye to eye. He's still caught up on that other guy from 3 years ago, and keeps saying he's tring to figure out whats the best for me, and i just told him it wasn't up to him to deside that.  I asked him last night if he wants me to be his, and he never answered, this morning i asked him again, and he said if i'm needing an answer now and pressing him then the answer is no. That when someone pressures him into something then he just goes the oppisite way.  I'm wanting to cry and run away but i can't i'm working and have kids i can't go away. what do i do cause i can't get over him i'm so in love

 

 
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May 2, 2008, 6:20 am PDT

not healthy

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Well i thought things was gettting better, but it seems like we can't seem eye to eye. He's still caught up on that other guy from 3 years ago, and keeps saying he's tring to figure out whats the best for me, and i just told him it wasn't up to him to deside that.  I asked him last night if he wants me to be his, and he never answered, this morning i asked him again, and he said if i'm needing an answer now and pressing him then the answer is no. That when someone pressures him into something then he just goes the oppisite way.  I'm wanting to cry and run away but i can't i'm working and have kids i can't go away. what do i do cause i can't get over him i'm so in love

 


You love him and need him way more then he loves you and/or needs you- that means there is an imbalance of power in this relationship. As long as you have more love for him, he will always hold power over you; this will never be an equal relationship. It won’t be the kind of relationship that is healthy for both of you.
When he says he has to “figure out what is best for you,” what in the world does that mean? and, why would HE have to figure that out? Also, in the meantime, while he is ‘trying to figure that out,’ he is sleeping with you…so it is as though he is saying, ‘let me have what I want, you just wait for any answers- I’ll tell you what I want to tell you, when I want to tell you, and you’ll take it.’ He knows that you will take disrespect because you ‘love’ him. Meanwhile, if you have the ‘nerve’ to press for answers, he can threaten to leave you. Again, this isn’t a healthy love! You deserve so much more- be kind to yourself.
 
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May 2, 2008, 6:23 am PDT

Your pain in understandable

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Ok right now it is 5am and I cannot sleep, writting this is making me cry even more. Please help me as I feel very stressed out and sad. Last night my husband admitted me something that he had kept from me for 3 whole years for this time being married to eachother. My best friend...he admitted that him and her had sex BUT BEFORE we met... his excuse is keeping it from me to not hurt me. I cannot sleep. I am very hurt and I feel like killing myself. To think back on every memory we've had together and especially when my best friend was around????? He didn't tell me anything??? I can't stop crying... This seriously hurts and I don't know what to do next. Please help.
It is totally understandable that you are this hurt. Being lied to is painful, and especially to hear this HUGE news. Did he apologize, did he truly seem to regret his actions? Or, did he seem “justified” in his actions and think that you shouldn’t make such a big deal? If he tries to minimize your reaction, please consider what is best for yourself. Love shouldn’t hurt like this; not a healthy kind of love, anyway. Three years is a really long time to be lied to. My advice to you is to seek professional help to deal with this pain, because having an unbiased, third person listen to your thoughts and feelings can be very helpful. It will help you learn how to heal and move forward, something that you really need help doing. I wish you the best, take care of YOU.
 
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May 5, 2008, 6:33 pm PDT

I can't

I don't want to see anyone. Please just understand. I'm so hurt and have been for the past week. I can't seem to move on no matter how hard I try. I'll tell you how it happened. I lied to him and told him that my friend admitted it to me. He lied to me for the next hour before telling me the truth. When he decided to tell me the truth he held me really tight and he cried. He wispered in my ear 'I'm sorry' Straight away I knew what the truth was. That he had slept with my bestfriend before we met. I'm not mad that it happened. I'm more sad/mad that he kept it from me for this long. He didn't act careless he was really holding me and apologising and that he really didn't want me to leave him. I've never been this sad before in my life.
 
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May 5, 2008, 6:44 pm PDT

Is he lying?

He was acting like he had alot of regret for what had happened and he says that when she comes around he doesn't think about it. In the last few days he has punched me and I have spat on his face, we have been into such bad fights! I know it isn't healthy. I just don't know whether to just get over it and move on or to just leave him. He told me that he understands that I will be hurt for a quite some time, he says that he's relieved that he's finally told me, he says no matter how bad are fights and arguments are he would never leave. He says he will stick by my side and be there for me until I heal from this pain and then we can be able to move on and live life. Is he right? I find it so much harder to believe him in just about ANYTHING.
 
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May 6, 2008, 2:06 pm PDT

The Other Woman

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He was acting like he had alot of regret for what had happened and he says that when she comes around he doesn't think about it. In the last few days he has punched me and I have spat on his face, we have been into such bad fights! I know it isn't healthy. I just don't know whether to just get over it and move on or to just leave him. He told me that he understands that I will be hurt for a quite some time, he says that he's relieved that he's finally told me, he says no matter how bad are fights and arguments are he would never leave. He says he will stick by my side and be there for me until I heal from this pain and then we can be able to move on and live life. Is he right? I find it so much harder to believe him in just about ANYTHING.

He punched you? 

Has he ever gotten physical like this before?

This is a whole other issue that needs to be addressed.

Never, ever can physical contact like that be tolerated in any marriage!

 

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May 6, 2008, 10:54 pm PDT

The Other Woman

No he has never gotten physical like this before. This was his first time and he prommised me he wouldn't do it ever again. I am healing slowly tho, just from trying my best to not argue and trying to do things to make us happier. I just don't know if this is the right move?
 
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May 25, 2008, 1:35 am PDT

I am so angry

I am 60 years old, married for four years to my third husband.  My first passed away after 33 years of marriage, jumped into a brief marriage for what?, married my current husband and even though I love him I am so angry at all the pain I have been through with him.  He was "seperated" for five years prior to our meeting.  He filed for divorce and we married.  He has three boys #1 doesnt' speak to, #2 came into his business and now has it all,(husband now retired), #3 has been on drugs for 14 years, in and out of prison twice because of it .  Ex wife (there were married 30 years) still calls on a regular basis over one thing or another.  She ends all conversations with "I love you, Bob".This is my problem.  There is no need for these calls unless it's an emergency, I feel.  He doesn't tell her not to say I love you, but it hurts me and for the life of me I don't understand why this continues after fives years.  He tells me to get over it. Hummm. This is our main problem.  I am jealous of these phone calls and it is driving a huge wedge between us.  I do not speak with my short-timed ex and don't want to. Why does he feel he has to talk to her?  My husband has an anger problem and I have been the butt of these outburst.  Sometimes I can't take it and I respond with yelling and bringing up the fact that he and his EX are Exes and that there is no need to talk (120times in three months?)  He'll put her on "no ring" but why?  He stil answers her calls after a week of it. I asked him why he let's her or allows her calls, 17 so far this month, and he says he doesn't know.  I am ready to leave him and he says go, as if he could care less.  I asked him how he would like it if my ex called me?  He said I dont know. He's depressed.  His one son and wife embesseled, his second son (according to son's brother was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and a gold one up his ass) this son never liked me , guessing he was afraid I was taking his inheritance, just a very selfish person, and the third son keeps being enabled by his parents and is not facing another prison time for burglery and of course this all stems from the drug use.  My advice as the outsider has never been considered by my husband.  STOP the enabling, stop giving him money,while on the pretense of working for you, giving him a truck, makes it easier to get to the drugs, paying for rehab that he did for one day before mommie bought him a bus ticket home, on and on and on...I know it must be hard to stop the enabling, but watching the show and hearing from a former addict at church, hasn't helped him at all.  I am at the end of my rope.  I have such anger for my husband and all the hell he has put me through with his anger and destroying my things taking away things because I bought it", just so many things I can't say. Not enough time.  I don't know what else to do but leave and he acts as if he could care less.  He is remorseful after words and apologizes but it seems like a repeat pattern .. I dont want to start over again. I have worked so hard at work and everywhere else. I am becoming an angry woman...so am I the other woman?  His Ex has always said, "I love you, Bob" and has told him that she wants him back, but he's married to me and even though at times there are good times, I wonder why I put up with this?  My late husband and I have raised four very great kids who are self sufficient, honest, hard working, loving parents to their children and independent.  I am so proud. Now I'm in this and I am ready emotionally to leave but don't want to.. His son #3 is on the front page of the small local city paper....I am sick at how he must feel but sick that I am in this mess...Just wanted to get this off my chest.  I pray and will be going to seek counselling again. My husband began seeing a professional as of last week but is it to help get out of the  trouble he's gotten into due to anger issues with the city?   I am in a ditch and my husband is in the other ditch. Dr Phil, what is going on?  It used to be so much fun. Now all I do is work and come home.  Yes, I check the phone bill each month and there they are....the phone calls with each other.  I'm over it most of the time...don't want to leave but want to leave at the same time.  Tired of the garbage in and out but still hoping that things will improve....am I a hopless believer in marriage? 
 
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May 26, 2008, 11:56 am PDT

A thought......

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No he has never gotten physical like this before. This was his first time and he prommised me he wouldn't do it ever again. I am healing slowly tho, just from trying my best to not argue and trying to do things to make us happier. I just don't know if this is the right move?

Please see the Marriage/abuse board and ask the ladies over there what their opinion is.  You may be surprised at the wealth of information they have on this topic.

 

You not arguing or upsetting him will not 'right' the issue, he will only gain more power and control over you. 

 

Wishing you the best.

 

 

 
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June 11, 2008, 11:28 am PDT

Hopeless believer-

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I am 60 years old, married for four years to my third husband.  My first passed away after 33 years of marriage, jumped into a brief marriage for what?, married my current husband and even though I love him I am so angry at all the pain I have been through with him.  He was "seperated" for five years prior to our meeting.  He filed for divorce and we married.  He has three boys #1 doesnt' speak to, #2 came into his business and now has it all,(husband now retired), #3 has been on drugs for 14 years, in and out of prison twice because of it .  Ex wife (there were married 30 years) still calls on a regular basis over one thing or another.  She ends all conversations with "I love you, Bob".This is my problem.  There is no need for these calls unless it's an emergency, I feel.  He doesn't tell her not to say I love you, but it hurts me and for the life of me I don't understand why this continues after fives years.  He tells me to get over it. Hummm. This is our main problem.  I am jealous of these phone calls and it is driving a huge wedge between us.  I do not speak with my short-timed ex and don't want to. Why does he feel he has to talk to her?  My husband has an anger problem and I have been the butt of these outburst.  Sometimes I can't take it and I respond with yelling and bringing up the fact that he and his EX are Exes and that there is no need to talk (120times in three months?)  He'll put her on "no ring" but why?  He stil answers her calls after a week of it. I asked him why he let's her or allows her calls, 17 so far this month, and he says he doesn't know.  I am ready to leave him and he says go, as if he could care less.  I asked him how he would like it if my ex called me?  He said I dont know. He's depressed.  His one son and wife embesseled, his second son (according to son's brother was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and a gold one up his ass) this son never liked me , guessing he was afraid I was taking his inheritance, just a very selfish person, and the third son keeps being enabled by his parents and is not facing another prison time for burglery and of course this all stems from the drug use.  My advice as the outsider has never been considered by my husband.  STOP the enabling, stop giving him money,while on the pretense of working for you, giving him a truck, makes it easier to get to the drugs, paying for rehab that he did for one day before mommie bought him a bus ticket home, on and on and on...I know it must be hard to stop the enabling, but watching the show and hearing from a former addict at church, hasn't helped him at all.  I am at the end of my rope.  I have such anger for my husband and all the hell he has put me through with his anger and destroying my things taking away things because I bought it", just so many things I can't say. Not enough time.  I don't know what else to do but leave and he acts as if he could care less.  He is remorseful after words and apologizes but it seems like a repeat pattern .. I dont want to start over again. I have worked so hard at work and everywhere else. I am becoming an angry woman...so am I the other woman?  His Ex has always said, "I love you, Bob" and has told him that she wants him back, but he's married to me and even though at times there are good times, I wonder why I put up with this?  My late husband and I have raised four very great kids who are self sufficient, honest, hard working, loving parents to their children and independent.  I am so proud. Now I'm in this and I am ready emotionally to leave but don't want to.. His son #3 is on the front page of the small local city paper....I am sick at how he must feel but sick that I am in this mess...Just wanted to get this off my chest.  I pray and will be going to seek counselling again. My husband began seeing a professional as of last week but is it to help get out of the  trouble he's gotten into due to anger issues with the city?   I am in a ditch and my husband is in the other ditch. Dr Phil, what is going on?  It used to be so much fun. Now all I do is work and come home.  Yes, I check the phone bill each month and there they are....the phone calls with each other.  I'm over it most of the time...don't want to leave but want to leave at the same time.  Tired of the garbage in and out but still hoping that things will improve....am I a hopless believer in marriage? 

This post isn't really in the appropriate section,but I can see that you put it here because you started off feeling like your husband's ex is the other woman in your marriage.

I'm curious, as you wrote, did you gain an understanding of what your reall poblems are?

Your husband seems to be a very passive sort of person, never taking positive action or a stand on anything. He seems to drift along, letting others take actions and avoiding any kind of controversy. His advice for you "to just get over it' is exactly what he does. If he never actually does anything, he can't be considered a bad guy and/or never does anything wrong. But things go wrong all around him anyway. One wonders what his children would be like today if he took more of a hand with them? Or his marriage? My bet would be that he would still be drifting along in separation limbo if you hadn't floated into his life and started things rolling in your directions.

He is old enough to know better, and so are you. I think you can stop feeling any sort of embarrassement or shame over this mistake though. It sounds like your first marriage was a good one, so you naturally trusted that this one would be too. My opinion is that you should "float" on out of his life (legally, on your terms) and let his ex take him back. I think they deserve each other.

Once you are free of this deadbeat you will be available to find somebody that is willing to "make" a life together, not live on the fringes in order to be "safe", but ineffectual. You are not a hopeless believer, it happened to you once so you know it's possible. You just had rose colored glasses when it came to this guy. Maybe he said all the right things? Beware next time, and good luck.

 

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