Topic : Breaking Up

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July 22, 2008, 6:30 am PDT

I wouldn't stick around to find out

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Damn, this hit home, hard. You are so spot on with why I shouldn't stay with him for the long term.  Yesterday, I would have sobbed reading it, but today, I am strong, and knocked some sense in me.  Sad thing is, I love him, and my queston was, him going to theray, knowing he has a problem with dealing with my past and trust issues, does hebitterness and all stay consumed in him, or does it go away.
That's such a generalized question that nobody can answer as we are all individuals who handle things differently.  Who knows, you may see improvement short term but his issues could come back in the long term when you least expect it and ruin your life.  I honestly believe that once trust is broken you never fully regain it back.  What concerns me with him is that this just may well be a personality flaw.  He feels entitled to dig up your dirt with absolutely no respect for your privacy.  I mean it takes a lot of audacity to do the things that he did and you've only know him for 8 months.  I realize that you love him but you've got these huge red flags staring at you right now, please don't ignore them.  He's shown you early on that he can be a great guy with a whole lot of issues and those character flaws that he has can make you feel like a caged woman who will be tormented and reminded of your past forever.  After I wrote that last post I kept wondering why you allowed him to continue his snooping, what did you say to yourself that made it okay for him to dig up your past?  Why after the first time did you not break up with him fully knowing that he absolutely crossed that line?
 
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July 24, 2008, 8:36 am PDT

am i wrong?

alright so heres the story, i was dating a girl a while ago and i thought it was going well but then i found out there was a guy who was messing around with her. she wasnt doing anything but he was touching her and flirting with her. i was obviously upset but all i wanted to do at first was talk to him about it and just say that's not cool, and i would really aprecciate it if you would stop it.  but instead of that i decided to talk to her about it first. when i told her i was upset she got upset!? she said that "that's just him" and if i couldnt get along with him then she didnt want to be with me and she also made the comment that he meant more to her than i did. so then i had to make a decision, break up or stay together. i knew i couldnt get along with him so i decided to break up with her before things got bad between us. another few things i guess i should mention are that she was moving away soon so perhaps she just wanted to find a way to end the relationship before we got close also she has had a few bad relationships before. so i guess my question is am i wrong or do i have at least some right to feel pretty betrayed and almost abandoned. i mean i was completley loyal to her there were a few times where i could have been not so loyal but i decided to maintain my loyalty to her. so when she said she valued him more than me and that she would be willing to end the relationship because i was upset with that guy for breaking a man law i felt pretty betrayed. so any comments negative or positive will be aprecciated. thanks.
 
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July 24, 2008, 1:58 pm PDT

do i forgive?

I have been with the same guy for four and a half years, and we live together.  A couple months ago i found some very explict pictures of a girl he works with our computer,  i confronted him about them and he said that they meant nothing, so i asked to see his phone and there was pictures on there of her(with comments to turn him on posted at the bottom of the pics), as well as pics of him to her(which were never sent). He fessed up to her trying to kiss him and her trying to climb ontop of him.They both tell me that it was just innocent flirting and that nothing physical happened, but im no too sure what to believe. I NEVER thought that he was capable of doing something like this, but apparently i was wrong. He does show remorse, and that he is very sorry, but how do i really know  that i have been told the truth or everything that happened? He lied to me telling me that he had to work late, and i found out after that he was with her in her car talking, outside their work.He says that he strayed becauzse he thought we were over, we had been fightin alot and that she listened. and i said that i listen too but you never give me that chance, you just bottle your feelings up. I want this relationship to work, but  i cant help but after 6 months still feeling heartbroken, betrayed,hurt,sad, and so many other feelings that i jsut cant describe. Someone pleaes help me with advice on how i can save this relationship, or help me see what im missing, or what i should be looking for!!!

 
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July 25, 2008, 4:42 am PDT

Get into counseling

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I have been with the same guy for four and a half years, and we live together.  A couple months ago i found some very explict pictures of a girl he works with our computer,  i confronted him about them and he said that they meant nothing, so i asked to see his phone and there was pictures on there of her(with comments to turn him on posted at the bottom of the pics), as well as pics of him to her(which were never sent). He fessed up to her trying to kiss him and her trying to climb ontop of him.They both tell me that it was just innocent flirting and that nothing physical happened, but im no too sure what to believe. I NEVER thought that he was capable of doing something like this, but apparently i was wrong. He does show remorse, and that he is very sorry, but how do i really know  that i have been told the truth or everything that happened? He lied to me telling me that he had to work late, and i found out after that he was with her in her car talking, outside their work.He says that he strayed becauzse he thought we were over, we had been fightin alot and that she listened. and i said that i listen too but you never give me that chance, you just bottle your feelings up. I want this relationship to work, but  i cant help but after 6 months still feeling heartbroken, betrayed,hurt,sad, and so many other feelings that i jsut cant describe. Someone pleaes help me with advice on how i can save this relationship, or help me see what im missing, or what i should be looking for!!!

You ask the question how will you ever know if you have been told the truth. You will probably never know.

He had an emotional affair with her and typically an emotional affair leads to a physical one as well.  At this point you have to trust your gut instincts and women's intuition.  He's blaming everybody here and taking no responsibility for his actions.  She tried to kiss him and she tried to climb on top of him - what was he an innocent victim here?  He strayed because you two were having hard times and you didn't listen, again blaming you for not being there.  He needs to get real and realize that he had 100% control over this situation and is100%  accountable for his actions.  There were many other choices that he could have made but chose not to.  He got caught, minimized his actions and now you are left trying to sort out your feelings.

I would first recommend that you get into counseling so that you can sort out your feelings.  Through counseling you will decide whether or not you can live with this betrayal. At some point he should join you, he really needs to realize how his infidelity has rocked your world and truly understand what this has done to you.  You two were having issues prior to his affair and a therapist could help the both of you with those issues as well.  You obviously want answers from him and since he tends to shut down emotionally one on one with you, a professional may be able to get him to start opening up those lines of communication with you.

You are obviously pondering the question - is this guy trustworthy and will he do this again in the future?  Unless he takes full responsibility for his actions there's a good chance it will happen again.  He needs to do whatever you need for him to do to make you feel safe and secure in this relationship again.

Is he still working with this woman?  If he is, now would be a good time for him to start looking for another job.

 
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July 25, 2008, 2:58 pm PDT

Get out of denial

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I have been with the same guy for four and a half years, and we live together.  A couple months ago i found some very explict pictures of a girl he works with our computer,  i confronted him about them and he said that they meant nothing, so i asked to see his phone and there was pictures on there of her(with comments to turn him on posted at the bottom of the pics), as well as pics of him to her(which were never sent). He fessed up to her trying to kiss him and her trying to climb ontop of him.They both tell me that it was just innocent flirting and that nothing physical happened, but im no too sure what to believe. I NEVER thought that he was capable of doing something like this, but apparently i was wrong. He does show remorse, and that he is very sorry, but how do i really know  that i have been told the truth or everything that happened? He lied to me telling me that he had to work late, and i found out after that he was with her in her car talking, outside their work.He says that he strayed becauzse he thought we were over, we had been fightin alot and that she listened. and i said that i listen too but you never give me that chance, you just bottle your feelings up. I want this relationship to work, but  i cant help but after 6 months still feeling heartbroken, betrayed,hurt,sad, and so many other feelings that i jsut cant describe. Someone pleaes help me with advice on how i can save this relationship, or help me see what im missing, or what i should be looking for!!!

It is understandable that because you have spent nearly five years of your life with this guy, you "want" to believe his story and attempt to rebuild trust. BUT....from what you've described, I find it very difficult to believe that they did not have sex. He isn't being honest with you, he hasn't been honest with you for a long time- telling you that he worked late when he was really with her, and then his lame excuse as for why he strayed...These actions make it very difficult for you to truly forgive him because you MUST know the truth before you can work on forgiveness.
Your feelings of being heartbroken, betrayed and hurt are all valid. That is exactly how anyone would feel when they've been treated the way that your boyfriend has treated you. Does he still work with this woman?
 
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July 26, 2008, 2:05 pm PDT

Breaking Up

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The thing I would say different from what the other advice is, would be to stop the sex. If he is not willing to commit to a relationship, it sounds more like getting the milk for free, if you know what I mean. Yes, you realize your part of the break-up, but that is something the two of you need to discuss, and keep it out of the bedroom. You are not "keeping" him by sleeping with him, you are just giving him sex.

 

You probably need to prove you have changed, and unless sex was the reason, having an intimate relationship with him while he is not even wanting to call you a couple working on things, sounds more like he is using you, because he knows what you want. Him in a relationship. If he truly wants to try and work on the relationship, keep it out of the bedroom, and the two of you need to prove to the other, that you have learned from what was done wrong, and CAN change.

 

Good luck, and keep us informed on how it goes, as it may help others in the same situation.

Thanks again for the advice! He is back from holidays and on Friday I txt mssged him to ask if he had plans ect. I never made plans with him. Then on Saturday I asked if he wanted to do something and said I wanted to see him. He said maybe after 8pm because he had a bbq to go to. He hasn't made any effort to ask to see me sincey he has been back. He only email me and asked if i was going hiking on the weekend because I frequently do. It seems as though he is really spending lots of time alone doing his own thing. He is like that a lot where as I feel the need to constantly be around people because I feel really lonely since he moved out. This just makes me mad because before he left he as asking me to do errands with him and have dinners...not who knows. Not sure if he will contact me tonight when the bbq is done. ....hope so cuz i really miss him. What do you think I should do?
 
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July 26, 2008, 2:13 pm PDT

Breaking Up

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Thanks again for the advice! He is back from holidays and on Friday I txt mssged him to ask if he had plans ect. I never made plans with him. Then on Saturday I asked if he wanted to do something and said I wanted to see him. He said maybe after 8pm because he had a bbq to go to. He hasn't made any effort to ask to see me sincey he has been back. He only email me and asked if i was going hiking on the weekend because I frequently do. It seems as though he is really spending lots of time alone doing his own thing. He is like that a lot where as I feel the need to constantly be around people because I feel really lonely since he moved out. This just makes me mad because before he left he as asking me to do errands with him and have dinners...not who knows. Not sure if he will contact me tonight when the bbq is done. ....hope so cuz i really miss him. What do you think I should do?
I have alots of serious suicidal thoughts with regards to this. When we broke up he told me I cried to much and had mood swings. I cried lots cuz I feel like I wanted more from him and it seemed as though he wouldn't give it to me. He told me he never told me how he was feeling because he feared I would cry more. I was like what? How was things supposed to get better between us if you didn't tell me how you were feeling and that you were unhappy? He said the only solution he saw was to leave. I had suggested councelling and told him that I am working on myself lots and am better and don't cry anymore. I don't know what else to do to get him to want to be with me again...sometimes I think since he moved out he is never coming back but I just don't know if I can accept it. He is the ONLY one I want. I don't know if I can survive the feelings of lonliness I have for wanting to be with him. HELP!
 
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July 26, 2008, 8:57 pm PDT

Not an option, period.

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I have alots of serious suicidal thoughts with regards to this. When we broke up he told me I cried to much and had mood swings. I cried lots cuz I feel like I wanted more from him and it seemed as though he wouldn't give it to me. He told me he never told me how he was feeling because he feared I would cry more. I was like what? How was things supposed to get better between us if you didn't tell me how you were feeling and that you were unhappy? He said the only solution he saw was to leave. I had suggested councelling and told him that I am working on myself lots and am better and don't cry anymore. I don't know what else to do to get him to want to be with me again...sometimes I think since he moved out he is never coming back but I just don't know if I can accept it. He is the ONLY one I want. I don't know if I can survive the feelings of lonliness I have for wanting to be with him. HELP!

Suicide is not an option.  If you feel you can not handle this break up please call a hotline, call a friend, a family member etc. who can help you.  On Monday you need to make an appt. with a therapist who can help you sort out your feelings so that you can find some peace and acceptance somewhere down the road. 

I understand your desperation, most of us have been in your shoes at some point in our lives.  Feeling desperately lonely and helpless and being in limbo not knowing what to do.  But as time goes on we do find our footing and we do heal, please be patient with yourself and do not be afraid to seek outside help.

 

Your ex obviously needs time alone.  The more you push the farther he will run.  Is is possible that you came off as too needy for him to handle?  I understand you wanting to spend time with him whenever you could but it seems that he may have felt suffocated and didn't know how to handle or understand how you felt and why.  Seems like you focused most of your energy and time on him whereas he balanced his spare time with you, friends and family and by himself.  You may have wanted more from him than he was able to give.  Your communication lines obviously broke down because either you weren't hearing what he was saying or he simply was afraid to hurt your feelings.  His actions were very clear, he needed distance and alone time. 

 

I dated this guy once who was incredibly needy, it drove me crazy.  Everytime I turned around he was there, constantly called me, he essentially stopped living his own life and decided to revolve everything around me.  I liked to be around people but I also loved my alone time and my time alone with my family.  I couldn't handle the responsibility nor did I want to.  He became more of a burden as I honestly could not breath or do anything withouthim trying to make me feel guilty for going out without him.  Needless to say that relationship only lasted a few months.  No matter how many times I tried to explain myself  he took it the wrong way or simple never truly listened to me.  Could this have been you?

 

The only advice I can give you is to keep busy with family and friends.  Do whatever it takes to keep your mind occupied and keep the focus on you.  Only time will tell if you two will get back together but it's really important what you do with that time!  Get Dr. Phil's book & workbook, Self Matters and do the exercises.  It is time consuming and it really helps to keep the focus on you and you eventually realize why you are the way you are, what makes you tick.  - Take this break up one day at a time, don't worry about next week or next month - worry about what you are doing today to get yourself on the road to a more healthier and happier emotional state.  And call a therapist asap.....  Keep us updated.

 
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July 29, 2008, 4:01 pm PDT

3 years later

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 Hi there.

I'm a 43yo divorced mother of three (27,22,16) and am currently in a 3 1/2 year relationship with the view to marriage.  We do not live together - I live with my elderly father and the youngest two of my children.

We've had a few problems in the last few months which have been based on my feeling that the man in my life has become distant - showing little affection, no interest in sex and not wanting to talk about what may be happening to have brought this on.

We decided to set aside a month where we limited the time we spent together, to allow for a little "space" to try and work out our feelings etc. (we normally spend a lot of time with eachother during the day as we work together in his homebased business). 

The whole idea was that, we spend time apart regrouping our lives and have certain times where we would hang out as a couple, kind of like dating, and talk about what we had been doing (in regard to the regrouping).

After three weeks I called quits to what we were doing because within that time he became even more distant (not wanting to spend any intimate time together at all) and only wanting to meet for a "coffee" and was guarded in talking about "how things were going" for him.

I found it extremely difficult feeling so emotionally and intimately shut out of his life in this way.  I became very tense and guarded on our last "coffee" meeting and I could see that he was becoming frustated at my behaviour so I sugested we go somewhere more private to talk. 

We talked and through his frustatration he said that he hadn't had time to think about "us" much and he  wasn't even sure he wanted to be in a relationship with me anyway.  I was stunned at hearing that.  I walked out on him because I didn't quite know what to say and I didn't want to say anything I would be sorry for later.

I didn't hear from him for a week so I decided that I would go to see him and talk things through to either end the relationship or decide whether we were going to work through this patch.

We talked for hours.  We talked about working together on being together - it was really wonderful to be relating at such a deep level again.

Today we talked again and he told me that his problem has been that he won't marry my while I still have my children living with me.  He doesn't have children of his own and would find it difficult living with me and my family because so much of what happens in "that" household goes against his value system.

Once again, I'm absolutely stunned.  We (my children and I) live in what I would call an almost boringly typical parent/child existence.   He's never spoken of this before and when we talked about "working things out together" I imagined that part of that would have taken in blending our family (well, my children, him and me).

He wants to keep our relationship going with the view to marry when my brood have all flown the coup. 

I understand the difficulties of second marriages with children involved, that's why we didn't rush in to marriage in the first place.  We had talked about allowing everybody to get to know eachother slowly to give everyone time to become accustomed to "us"; to build on our relationship during this time and our future (hence working together).

At the moment I find his "offer" unacceptable and I'm quite cranky about the whole thing. 

I'm wondering whether I'm just being altogether too emotional, maybe his suggestion is the most logical one and maybe I'm simply taking his rejection of my children all too personally.

I don't know.

If anyone can think of any questions that maybe I should be asking myself - I'd be more than grateful if you would share them because I'm feeling just a little too lost in the forest to think of any right now.

Cheers!

The above was originally posted 3 years ago - and it wasn't me - but I find myself in a similar situation.  I'm a divorced widow (divorced, then my ex passed away a couple of years later), I've been dating my friend for nearly 3 years, and when I sold my old house, my daughter and I lived with him for 10 months before buying another house.  At the time I moved in with him, it was our intention to "try on a family" and see how he did with living with a child (she was 11 at the time) - since he too doesn't have any children of his own.

 

What a miserable failure.

 

I bought my own home last month, and my daughter and I are thrilled with it.  But now I'm trying to figure out if or how to break up with my boyfriend.  I'm 44, and would think I would know what I want and how to go about doing things...

 

He realised through our shared experience that he in fact does not want to be a step-dad, and does not think I'm raising my daughter the way I "should" - I'm not raising her with an iron fist the way his family does things.  He doesn't think I demand enough respect from my child.  Right now, as a 12 year old, she still talks to me about what's going on in her life, and I take time to talk to her about the realities of being a teenager.  We have a great relationship, she's a good girl, very creative, expressive, has good friends, makes good grades, enjoys our church, church youth group and church camp...I know I'm doing something right.

 

I need some encouragement here.

 

 
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July 31, 2008, 4:14 am PDT

what should I do?

I dont know if i should break up with my boyfriend of 5 1/2 years long. I found out through a friend, who seen my boyfriend at Wendys with another girl. The thing is my boyfriend never told me. I confronted him about it and he told me it was an ex girlfriend from high school and I asked him why he met her. He said it was to clear up things in the past, cause apparently she hurt him really bad. My boyfriend is 44, high school was a long time ago, why does this sound so strange? I asked him if he is going to see her again, and he said no, why would I? I have you. He sounds likes he cares, but the same time why not tell me? This is fishy. I see no reason to meet her. Please help.
 

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