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December 26, 2007, 10:37 pm PST

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I have this issue with myself and the way I communicate things.  I have a tendency to use swear words when I am bantering with one person in particular that I truly care for.  I was not aware at how it is taken offensively at times until 3 months ago when I did it and offended him  to the point of him not talking to me.  It took a couple days for me to find out I had sworn at him and offended him.  I did it again tonight when we were bantering back and forth about something stupid.  He again got offended and took it to heart what I said.  I realized immediately after saying it that I had messed up.  After a little while I went and apologized to him, but he wouldn't accept it because he was mad.  this is something I have been working very hard at for a long time, but here's the thing.  I was brought up this way and this is how my family is.  I don't like it and I have been trying to change, but it obviously came back.  I need some help to stop this for good.  I don't want it to keep happening, I don't want to say things like that to those I do completely whole-heartedly care for. 
 
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December 29, 2007, 12:20 pm PST

Swearing

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I have this issue with myself and the way I communicate things.  I have a tendency to use swear words when I am bantering with one person in particular that I truly care for.  I was not aware at how it is taken offensively at times until 3 months ago when I did it and offended him  to the point of him not talking to me.  It took a couple days for me to find out I had sworn at him and offended him.  I did it again tonight when we were bantering back and forth about something stupid.  He again got offended and took it to heart what I said.  I realized immediately after saying it that I had messed up.  After a little while I went and apologized to him, but he wouldn't accept it because he was mad.  this is something I have been working very hard at for a long time, but here's the thing.  I was brought up this way and this is how my family is.  I don't like it and I have been trying to change, but it obviously came back.  I need some help to stop this for good.  I don't want it to keep happening, I don't want to say things like that to those I do completely whole-heartedly care for. 
It is really good that you truly want to change this bad behavior that you have. Because this has been a life-long habit, it will be a challenge to tackle, but the results will be so worth it!
A couple of years ago, my husband pointed out that I had a bad habit of swearing and I did it way too much. I didn’t even realize that I did that; but after he pointed it out, I observed my behavior and realized he was totally right. My husband and kids came up with a plan for me; if I swore, I had to pay them .25 cents. They really stuck to it, too- they were like little police officers following me! After approx. 3 days and $15.00, I noticed that I swore much less. It wasn’t long, probably a week, before I was totally free of curse words.
Instead of just changing the way you talk around this special friend of yours, aim to change it all together. Make not swearing your way of life. I suggest thinking of words to use in place of the offensive words you’ve used in the past. That might sound infantile, but it really worked for me. Instead of saying ‘oh sh*t’ when a car cuts me off, I’ll say, “shyza!” Another phrase I used to say all the time was ‘son of a b*tch,’ now I say, “son of a biscuit” instead. I hardly even use these replacement words in my day to day life, now; I’ve just become used to not needing them.
Observe when you use swear words more and when you use them less. For example, I noticed about myself that I would swear more when driving if I got stressed out. Also, I used bad language when talking in my ‘comfort zone,’ like with close friends and family. I never used bad language when talking to my children’s teachers; I never used it at the library or in a grocery store. This is proof that I did have control over it. You have control, too, you just need to harness it.
The most important advice I can give you is to forgive yourself when you slip up. Don’t hold a grudge against yourself, you are only human! All you can do is apologize and continue changing yourself in a positive manner. If your friend can’t, or won’t, forgive you for being human and having a slip-up, then you have to recognize that this might not be a healthy relationship. It isn’t rational for a person to give you the silent treatment because you said something offensive; that isn’t how emotionally healthy adults interact with one another. That is how children interact. You shouldn’t have to ‘beg’ for forgiveness. I wish you the very best!
 
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January 2, 2008, 12:03 pm PST

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I am a mother of two perfect little boys ages three and two. My mother lied to the courts and had my baby taken from me and was trying to do the same with my older son just recently. She and my family were abusive to us and my sons father wanted nothing to do with him because he was a boy. My sons father Richard is on drugs and has a drinking problem, but now he wants to help my mom take my son from me. I left town and moved far away from home and left my baby behind. I have established where I am but I am not able to contact my other son or family.  My mom had my baby taken from me because she "didn't love him" she wanted nothing to do with my baby and now she has visitation with him. She has been sabataging everything I ever had that was good in my life. I don't understand why a mother would want to destroy everything that would make or help her child to succeed and be happy. Any advice??
 
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January 8, 2008, 7:52 pm PST

Past Experiences.

So right now I've been dating this girl for three months, but I've known her for longer. Before me, she was with a real jerk. But anyways, that's not important yet. So far we haven't actually had sex, but we've gotten close. Up until this point I'd been under the impression she was a virgin. She acted like everything was all new and such. Today, I find out through a friend she lost her virginity to her ex. She has never told me this. I can't straight out tell her for risk of jeopardizing her and her friend's relationship. What should I do? I was planning on just casually asking her what the farthest she's ever went was. I want her to be honest with me, but if she lies and says she's a virgin. Then what? It's really about the honesty more than the actual subject. Apparently she regretted it, but  I  wish she would of told me/ will tell me. Any advice?
 
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January 9, 2008, 1:53 pm PST

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So right now I've been dating this girl for three months, but I've known her for longer. Before me, she was with a real jerk. But anyways, that's not important yet. So far we haven't actually had sex, but we've gotten close. Up until this point I'd been under the impression she was a virgin. She acted like everything was all new and such. Today, I find out through a friend she lost her virginity to her ex. She has never told me this. I can't straight out tell her for risk of jeopardizing her and her friend's relationship. What should I do? I was planning on just casually asking her what the farthest she's ever went was. I want her to be honest with me, but if she lies and says she's a virgin. Then what? It's really about the honesty more than the actual subject. Apparently she regretted it, but  I  wish she would of told me/ will tell me. Any advice?
Getting this extremely personal information from anyone who is not your girlfriend is unreliable information. People who say that they are “friends” and then proceed to give out exceptionally personal information about the person they claim to be ‘friends’ with usually do it because they have ulterior motives. If you want to know if she is a virgin or not, you don’t ask other people!
If it is very important to you that she is a virgin, then ask her. Please know that you cannot gauge if a person is a virgin or not simply because they “act like everything is new” to them. The beginning of any new relationship is exciting and new. I think it is despicable that you would talk about your girlfriend’s past sex life with a ‘friend’ and then think about holding it against her. This is not a positive start to this relationship.
 
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January 10, 2008, 2:45 am PST

Communication

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i think the whole about being idle for 20 mins and you get boot and have to sign in again is a good thing except one thing.....i just spent my time typing a message  went to preview..... got booted...lost my big mess never got it posted....that blows...need more time if you are typing a message
Add where you want to post to your "favorites" list and you can go straight back when you are ready.Type your messages in office or word then cut and paste where you want to post. This way you won't lose your message and can take all the time you need.
 
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January 10, 2008, 3:17 am PST

Men can't communbicate...

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I have been married 2-1/2 years. I am currently having communication problems with my Husband.  I have suggested counseling and I have even gone to counseling by myself at which I quit going when the counselor told me that he could only help me and not both of us since my husband wouldnt go.  The problem is every time I ask if we can talk, he shuts down and stops talking altogether.  I have tried many things and one was yelling, and I have even hit him, which Im not proud of and have stopped myself from hitting again. 

I read a book about a situation called withdrawal and avoidance: Hide and Seek.   Basically he shuts down sometimes for days or weeks and I keep pursuing, because I want the issue resolved.  After I quit pursuing after him to fix the problem things go back to normal for him, like nothing happened, but my feelings are being bottled up and every time I want to talk to him he tells me no.  I even ask when hes going to talk to me and he tells me he doesnt know.  I feel like Im going to explode (yelling) and thats basically what I do when he shuts down. I dont know how to control my emotions.  I have never been this bad before, mainly because other people talk and resolve issues with me.  I dont know where I went wrong, its like he chooses when communication will happen in our relationship.

Everyone I talk to hasnt come across this situation before; Im beginning to think Im the only one experiencing this.    

I tried to get him to read the book with me and he told me you cant learn anything from a book.

He refuses to go to counseling and he refuses to have a sit down conversation with me about our relationship.  I have written him letters that he says he didnt read.  Im at a crossroads and I dont know what to do.  I want to be able to communicate how I fill to him with out him shutting down.

 

Our most current argument was because he always tells me to pet the dogs and for some reason I dont like him telling me to pet the dogs and I tried to set down with him to tell him to stop asking me to pet the dogs and that I would pet them when I wanted to pet them.  Im not for sure what happened but he shut down before we could even resolve or discuss anything.  After he shut down my emotions got the better of me and I did yell at him, but now we are on our second day of not talking.  I asked if we could talk tonight and he told me no.  So I left him alone.  Basically I fell like I got to forget about what happened and never mention the issue again so we can get back to our normal lives, but that hasnt helped in the past, because the old issues get brought back up again in the next argument.

 

The main issue is the fact that he wont talk, that is what upsets me every time I want to have a conversation with him. He avoids and withdrawals from his own wife.

Any fan of Dr. Phil should know that men and women don't speak the same language. When you tell your husband that "you want to talk" what he is probably hearing is "I want to criticize you" which in reality is exactly what you want to do, though you mean no harm. Even though all you want to do is make your relationship better, he is seeing it as you putting him down. He may be overly sensitive. My parents were very critical of me, and I do the same thing. When a woman wants to "talk", I think I am about to be attacked so I shut down. It has taken me many years to learn that talking is just communication and not to be feared. I can't tell you how to talk to him, but if he is like I am, maybe this information will help you break through his walls.
 
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January 12, 2008, 11:40 am PST

My Boyfriend's Friends

I've been dating a guy for almost 2 years now.  I love him a lot; we get along great.  My only worries are with his friends.  I'm not sure if it's just my pessimism and me convincing myself of the worst case scenario...the beginning of January is always a sad time for me because of memories, so maybe it's just me only looking at the bad things and overlooking the good.  Anyway...here's what's up:

 

We've been dating long enough to know eachother's likes, dislikes, and petpeeves.  I think he knows mine pretty well.  For example, I'm not very good with change.  It's very hard for me to automatically become friends with someone new.  It took me a long time to warm up to his friends, but I passed that and we all get along great now.  But now, his current friends are bringing NEW friends!

 

Fridays are always a party night for him and his friends; everyone gathers at his house and drink and play games.  I don't drink, but I have nothing against others enjoying themselves as long as they don't pester me about drinking (which is one of the things that I love about them so much...they know I don't drink, and they don't harrass me about it).   I go over and just have fun playing games and watching other's fumble from the alcohol (haha).  When I first started coming to these get-togethers, it was the same group of 10 or 15 people for months.  Right when I started getting to know these people and opening up, more people started coming. 

 

Naturally, it's not my place to say who can be a friend or who can come and who can't...heck, I don't even WANT to be a picky jerk like that.  It's just that I feel very uncomfortable in these situations.  And it seems to have been happening consistantly for the last few months.  About 4 months ago, a guy named Ben started coming more.  They all knew him from high school, but I'm not from around here, so he was new to me.  Not to mention the fact that that's when he FIRST started hanging out with them in years.  Right when I started feeling comfortable around Ben, another guy brings his new girlfriend Patti.  She was and still is very hard for me to warm up to, but I'm getting better at it (again, she's a person they all went to high school with, so they all knew her already).  Now, lately, she's been bringing all of HER friends (again, old people from high school, just from a different group).  Not only are these people new, but they're much different than the group I know; they're louder, they drink more, they interrupt people, they're bringing in new games and insulting or changing the old games we played.

 

What's making this even more odd for me, is the fact that these arn't my boyfriend's friends....these are other people's friends.  I feel like this girl is making herself too much at home far too early.  True, I didn't have a lot of friends before I met my boyfriend (obviously, because i've always had a hard time warming up to people and accepting changes), but I don't just randomly bring the friends I do have (Annie or Tina) to the parties.  And I certainly wouldn't without asking my boyfriend and some of his friends that I'm comfortable with if it was ok. 

 

I know most of this issue is me.  I need to learn to get over my fear/uneasiness with change.  But I also feel like my boyfriend, who knows how uncomfortable I am with this, should do some things to help with it.  Like limiting the 'freedom' that some of these newcomers have. 

 

I just don't know what to say to my boyfriend.  I can tell him that I'm uncomfortable, but what else do I say.  It's not my place to make rules at HIS house; I don't find it acceptable for partners to force eachother to drop friends (heck, i don't even WANT him to drop his original friends); I don't want to make him feel like he has to make drastic changes just for me.  How do I solve this?  I enjoy the games and socializing with the people I know at these parties; I don't want to stop going just because these new people make me uncomfortable.  What this especially makes me worry about is what's going to happen later, if and when we move in together.  Will I be able to have a say in this without making him mad or coming off as a 'heal' to him and his friends?

 
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January 12, 2008, 2:38 pm PST

Girlfriend still likes to go out with ex-boyfriend

 Well, here I am again, asking for advice on a topic I wrote about a few months ago: My girlfriend's insistence on maintaining her friendship with old boyfriends.
A few months ago, we had a big fight over the fact that she has a couple of old boyfriends on her Facebook site and likes to stay in touch with them. (One is maried, the other one isn't.)
About a month ago, she was invited out for drinks with one of her ex-boyfriends (the one who is single). She hadn't seen him in a long time. We had already been through a hellish fight over the other ex-boyfriend, and had even gone to counselling to try to get the issue resolved. I fully admit, I've got some trust issues, and I'm trying to work on them.
 When she came home after having drinks with this guy, I asked how her "date" went (yes, I was needling her), but did not say anything more about it. Even though it did bother me, I was trying work on my trust issues so I just let it go.
Just recently, things were getting back to a bliss stage with us -- great sex, lots of cuddling, etc.
But a couple of days ago, she texted me at work and said she was going out with this old boyfriend again, this time for dinner. I texted back: "Gee, he's taking you out more than I am these days." She responded: "Ya, it's starting to look that way." (a little dig, perhaps, that I don't take her out often enough, although I had just taken her out for dinner tthe weekend before last).
Her dinner date lasted about three, three and a half hours, and when she got home, I again asked her how her "date" went. "You sound upset," she said, and then went to bed. Didn't bother to ask me how I was feeling or anything.
I slept on the couch that night -- I was upset but didn't want to get into a fight (I have joint custody of my young son, who was with us that night, and we never argue when he is there (Dr. Phil's advice here).
The next night, after work, we got into it. Huge fight. Lots of yelling. I asked her why, when things were going so good, would she put our relationship at risk by doing somethng she knows I have a problem with. She said that, judging by the fact I seemed accepting of her last date, she thought I was OK with it. I told her I was OK with her going out for drinks one time, but this was the second time they went out in about three or four weeks. I told her that when I am in a relationship, I don't believe that you get to date other people, old biyfriends or otherwise. She kept insisting "it's not a date!" He's just a friend. It got pretty heated, and I even called the old boyfriend up and told him that this was creating some friction and that I would appreciate it if he wouldn't ask her out anymore.
So, here's where it stands. She feels my trust issues are just that -- my issues -- and she does not want me telling her who she can be friends with. She has made it clear: If I give her an ultimatim, she will chose the old boyfriends over me.
I'm telling her that I do not approve of her going out with old boyfriends like this, even if it is platonic (once in a blue moon, OK, but if this is to become a regular thing, no way.)
I told her that if she insists on going out with old boyfriends, she can't complain if I start going out on the ocassional date myself. She is livid with that suggestion because she says that, while her intentions are strictly platonic and innocent, I cannot be trusted to go out with other women because, for me, a date is a romantic thing (she's right about that -- I do think a date has some element of romance, which is why I don't want her dating old boyfriends).
For her, this is a "deal-breaker." In other words, if I give her an ultimatim (she must stop seeing her ex-boyfriends), then it's over. She won't be dictated to.
Here's the question: Am I totally out to lunch, or does anyone agree that it is inappropriate for her to continue to see her ex-boyfriends when she knows it is an issue for me?
I look forward to hearing from men and women on this issue.



 
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January 12, 2008, 3:25 pm PST

Uncomfortable change

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I've been dating a guy for almost 2 years now.  I love him a lot; we get along great.  My only worries are with his friends.  I'm not sure if it's just my pessimism and me convincing myself of the worst case scenario...the beginning of January is always a sad time for me because of memories, so maybe it's just me only looking at the bad things and overlooking the good.  Anyway...here's what's up:

 

We've been dating long enough to know eachother's likes, dislikes, and petpeeves.  I think he knows mine pretty well.  For example, I'm not very good with change.  It's very hard for me to automatically become friends with someone new.  It took me a long time to warm up to his friends, but I passed that and we all get along great now.  But now, his current friends are bringing NEW friends!

 

Fridays are always a party night for him and his friends; everyone gathers at his house and drink and play games.  I don't drink, but I have nothing against others enjoying themselves as long as they don't pester me about drinking (which is one of the things that I love about them so much...they know I don't drink, and they don't harrass me about it).   I go over and just have fun playing games and watching other's fumble from the alcohol (haha).  When I first started coming to these get-togethers, it was the same group of 10 or 15 people for months.  Right when I started getting to know these people and opening up, more people started coming. 

 

Naturally, it's not my place to say who can be a friend or who can come and who can't...heck, I don't even WANT to be a picky jerk like that.  It's just that I feel very uncomfortable in these situations.  And it seems to have been happening consistantly for the last few months.  About 4 months ago, a guy named Ben started coming more.  They all knew him from high school, but I'm not from around here, so he was new to me.  Not to mention the fact that that's when he FIRST started hanging out with them in years.  Right when I started feeling comfortable around Ben, another guy brings his new girlfriend Patti.  She was and still is very hard for me to warm up to, but I'm getting better at it (again, she's a person they all went to high school with, so they all knew her already).  Now, lately, she's been bringing all of HER friends (again, old people from high school, just from a different group).  Not only are these people new, but they're much different than the group I know; they're louder, they drink more, they interrupt people, they're bringing in new games and insulting or changing the old games we played.

 

What's making this even more odd for me, is the fact that these arn't my boyfriend's friends....these are other people's friends.  I feel like this girl is making herself too much at home far too early.  True, I didn't have a lot of friends before I met my boyfriend (obviously, because i've always had a hard time warming up to people and accepting changes), but I don't just randomly bring the friends I do have (Annie or Tina) to the parties.  And I certainly wouldn't without asking my boyfriend and some of his friends that I'm comfortable with if it was ok. 

 

I know most of this issue is me.  I need to learn to get over my fear/uneasiness with change.  But I also feel like my boyfriend, who knows how uncomfortable I am with this, should do some things to help with it.  Like limiting the 'freedom' that some of these newcomers have. 

 

I just don't know what to say to my boyfriend.  I can tell him that I'm uncomfortable, but what else do I say.  It's not my place to make rules at HIS house; I don't find it acceptable for partners to force eachother to drop friends (heck, i don't even WANT him to drop his original friends); I don't want to make him feel like he has to make drastic changes just for me.  How do I solve this?  I enjoy the games and socializing with the people I know at these parties; I don't want to stop going just because these new people make me uncomfortable.  What this especially makes me worry about is what's going to happen later, if and when we move in together.  Will I be able to have a say in this without making him mad or coming off as a 'heal' to him and his friends?

Your feelings are understandable. It is really great that you have been able to get accustomed to some new people and make new acquaintances/friends. I know that if I were you, these friends bringing friends would bother me, also. However, it is your boyfriend’s place to speak up. Obviously, he doesn’t mind these gatherings. Maybe in his mind, he is thinking that you will ‘just get over it.’ If he has never had this type of social anxiety or difficulty with change, then he doesn’t know what it feels like for you. The only thing you can change in this situation is to stop going on Friday nights. 
 
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