Topic : Violence in School

Quote From: jettav

No one is saying that gays can't be good people and liove successful lives. I have a firend who is gay and doing very well in life but I do not believe this life style is right in the eyes of God. but because  We are givent he freewill to choose how we want to live our lives then I do not judge but that does not mean I am going to ignore how/what I believe and I am not going to pretend and be a hypocrite to my children, tehy have the right to know, to understand, and to develop their own opinions aboout issues and I have absolutely no problem telling/teaching them the other side of the issue and if they ever brought a book home contradicting our beliefsand lufestyle, you bet, I wouldn't havea  problem discussing it with them, My kids are learning Biblical Truths and values and as all good parents, I teach my kids to think and explore the answers for them selves, they are still a bit young but my 5 year old is one smart gal and she catches on pretty darn quick and I don;t have a problem giving her something to think about.

There's good in all people, but it deosn't make their actions right, there is a differnence between judging and presenting/believing the opposite of some one else. My firned knows that I believe homosexuality is a sin, but I am not his judge, I am his friend, he disagrees with me on several issues but we are still friends and we have been friends for over 25 years. Call it what you want, but Iw ill continue to teach my kids the truths of the Bible and I will continue to explain to them why I believe as I do on issues, I will continue to guide and direct them in teh way they should go and in the end, they will have decissions to make and they will have informationa nd teachings to look back on, They will learn that they do not need to accept the atitude, "that if it feels good then it must be right" They will learn to think for them selves and I am here to help give themt hose resources, it isn't the schools job to sway them into one direction but to teach academics and prepare them to succeed in college, in the work force and in life, I will continue to do my part as a parent....................

Quote From: jkstoned

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

man, you self-richous bible thumpers never cease to make me laugh.

 

You would take you're kids out of school because they were given a book on homosexuality?!!

 

There is nothing wrong with being gay, nothing. Gays can be good people and can live very successful lives despite their sexual orientation. They have enough trouble fitting in without you bible thumpers making it worse.

 

We live in a muilticultural society, so learn to accept that. If a man want's to love another man or a woman, another woman, that's fine by me. I'm straight as an arrow, but I have no problem with gays in my environment.

Quote From: jb7ctx

"As if you can "make" someone be GAY just by reading a book. Oh boy..."

 

Didnt say that. Didnt think that, but since you menitoned that, I feel that Children should not be subjected to gay material. Especially at a young age. Children should not be reading material like that book, in trying to make the children think it is o.k. for a man to marry a man.

 

"some people have their thoughts so messed up don't they?"

 

No. I dont believe it is "my" thoughts that are messed up.

Quote From: jb7ctx

Allright. I am sorry I am the one who got the subject of "violence in schools" off subject here, however, I am going to answer to your post.

 

" You would take you're kids out of school because they were given a book on homosexuality?!!"

 

You bet I would! My children are not going to school to learn about homosexuality, they are going to school to learn how to read and write and do math etc.. If I want my children to learn about homosexuality, I will be the one to teach them that and I will be the one to let them know that it is wrong. They are too young right now to understand it, but it will be addressed. I feel that if the school is wanting to let the children read "King and King" books, the school should let the children read the Bible as well.

 

"There is nothing wrong with being gay, nothing."

 

My opinioin ( since we all have our own) is that it is wrong. period.

Leviticus 20:13

'If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

Reading this sentence above for someone like you, is just the same as a someone like me reading the book of "King and King".

I know gays can be good people. Never said they couldnt. I just dont believe in homosexuality. I feel it is wrong.

 

"They have enough trouble fitting in without you bible thumpers making it worse."

 

Each individual, brings upon themselves, their own troubles. I dont mistreat gay people. I acknowledge them and I even have some friends of mine who are gay. That is their choice to be gay, not mine. They know my beliefs and we are all still friends. What makes it worse for gays to be accepted is they push it on everyone wanting acceptance.

 

Glad I brought a smile to your face and laughter to your heart when you read my post and responded.

Quote From: jkstoned

uhhhh...let's get back to violence in schools, here.

 

I didn't mean to start a debate about bible thumpers and gays.

 

"I worked with one but didn't realize it until he and five others were found naked in a motel bed doing their substitute sex thing.  I also know of an older guy that wears diapers now.  That's just pretty disgusting to me."

 

yeah, I find that pretty disgusting too, but oh well, the sexual activities of people are not my concern. I have a fetish for women who urinate in public, i think it's naughty and it turns me on. I know many people find it disgusting...whatever.

 

What happens in people's bedrooms is none of mine or your business or anyone's business.

 

back to violence in schools...sorry for stirring up the debate

Quote From: jkstoned

you know what?

 

this debate about gays and "bible thumpers" has got me thinking. This does have a lot to do with school violence and violence in general.

 

Violence is the result of unhealthy conflict that has escalated to the dangerous level.

 

Violence is the desparate cry of the unnaccepted and the oppressed. Dylan Clebold and Eric Harris- 2 social outcast who were ostracized for being different.

 

Violence comes from sickness and from people's inability to accept others.

 

The Ku Klux Klan kill in the name of some sick and twisted religious motivation.

Adolf Hitler and his hate for Jews, Slavs and Gypsie, the disabled, homosexuals, anyone who he and his sick followers did not see as "normal" or "superior".

 

School violence is the result of constant torment by bullies.  Bullies are violent because they can't accept those who are different.  We need to accept those who are different.

 

Gay's in highschool and any other school are the target of oppression because of society's immature attitude towards them.

Quote From: imcool

We have a teacher at our school well I wonder if he has anger managment issues cause one day he got mad at this kid and pushed a kid in there desk over and well yeah that desk knocked the one beside it down and that desk fell on me so yeah I wonder if my English teacher has anger issues. But yeah I could use anyone's opinion so yeah let me know if you have one.

 

Thanks

Whitney

Quote From: imcool

We have a teacher at our school well I wonder if he has anger managment issues cause one day he got mad at this kid and pushed a kid in there desk over and well yeah that desk knocked the one beside it down and that desk fell on me so yeah I wonder if my English teacher has anger issues. But yeah I could use anyone's opinion so yeah let me know if you have one.

 

Thanks

Whitney